**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 26 02:59:56 2011 Jul 26 03:18:49 is there a separate feed for 2.0.1 kernels for pre2? I think I am missing something Jul 26 03:19:12 tried the two feeds copied from the webos internals site Jul 26 03:48:16 nice. got f104 booting. so far so good Jul 26 03:49:22 also found quick system tasks which is great Jul 26 03:57:31 Damm: maybe you should get a better router... mine would tell me about the failed association attempts Jul 26 03:57:35 ;) Jul 26 03:58:59 ... but of course I turned off mac address restrictions, so it's irrelevant Jul 26 04:00:37 err the veer is armv7? Jul 26 04:00:45 I believe so Jul 26 04:01:02 but only has armv6 apps avail for it in the app cat? or is there a special 'veer' category? Jul 26 04:01:10 are they all white and black? Jul 26 04:01:29 probably defined more by the 400px than the armv6 Jul 26 04:01:51 dwc-: i see. and since the armv6 stuff Jul 26 04:01:58 hrrmm Jul 26 04:01:58 nvm Jul 26 04:01:59 okay Jul 26 04:18:43 * Damm sighs Jul 26 04:18:49 if you guys are going to keep replying, i'm going to /part Jul 26 04:19:41 Damm: what's up? Jul 26 04:19:51 why rant at people and then complain when they respond Jul 26 04:20:32 I ranted 3 lines as I said, I didn't want to make it into a huge deal and having people tell me i'm stupid because I run a secured network, my router doesn't tell me failed attempts, etc etc Jul 26 04:20:43 really, if I wanted that... I would have gone to twitter Jul 26 04:21:03 statement, point, end. There was no need for multiple people to make the same statement roughly Jul 26 04:22:22 no, mine was entirely a different comment Jul 26 04:22:58 if you are paranoid enough to use mac address restrictions on top of whatever else Jul 26 04:23:13 you probably want to keep track of who's been trying to get in too, right? Jul 26 04:26:24 fuckoff Jul 26 04:26:42 wow Jul 26 04:27:09 ... maybe that's the livid part Jul 26 04:29:02 what was he all ticked about? router config? Jul 26 04:30:47 that was mature Jul 26 04:32:23 whatever. if he wants to not have anyone answer, /part is the best way to chat with yourself Jul 26 04:33:35 what does /part do? Jul 26 04:34:01 try it Jul 26 04:34:15 lol Jul 26 04:34:19 id rather not.. Jul 26 04:34:56 google ftw Jul 26 04:43:17 dwc-: I was not referring to you Jul 26 04:44:02 I didn't think you were Jul 26 06:07:21 Who in here is attending OSCON? Jul 26 06:09:27 sosborn: I am Jul 26 06:09:43 rwhitby: your talk is on Wed no? Jul 26 06:09:51 yep, just before lunch Jul 26 06:10:04 I managed a free pass, but it's only for the Java sessions, so unfortunately I won't be able to attend. Jul 26 06:10:25 my talk is in the product and services track, so anyone can get in Jul 26 06:10:45 Oh, awesome. Jul 26 06:10:55 Well, I'll drop in for sure. Jul 26 06:11:14 cool, make sure you say g'day afterwards. Jul 26 06:11:56 Apparently we got some free passes for sponsoring the thing Jul 26 06:12:06 but I just found out this morning Jul 26 06:12:11 I'm just a co-founder Jul 26 06:12:34 They don't tell me these things Jul 26 06:14:13 must not have given them enough money Jul 26 06:15:24 Well, I mean my co-founders forget to mention we have free passes Jul 26 06:16:04 rwhitby: you make it to any interesting sessions today? Jul 26 06:21:23 The Clojure session was pretty informative to a newb like myself. I went to a java session that I thought was going to discuss Java pitfalls and work arounds and it turned out it was a round-table bitch session about the draft process and pet features they wanted in Java 7 Jul 26 08:49:54 hey Jul 26 14:14:17 EvDO only disables GPS? Jul 26 14:23:57 I just realized how dumb that question looks.... Jul 26 14:24:43 so...does putting your phone on EvDo only disable GPS?...because I my GPS doesn't work... Jul 26 14:25:18 hey RavenII Jul 26 14:25:39 Hey Pat. Jul 26 14:25:53 Sprint device? Jul 26 14:26:18 Yes sir. Jul 26 14:26:30 activated? Jul 26 14:26:47 Yeap Jul 26 14:27:03 GPS will work, just.. slower Jul 26 14:27:15 It's...oh....known issue? Jul 26 14:27:46 it doesn't have the towers to use to triangulate the signal/position from Jul 26 14:27:54 it uses *only* its gps chip Jul 26 14:28:39 Gotcha....I wonder if I could use VZ's gps servers... Jul 26 14:28:50 only if its activated Jul 26 14:30:06 I run unactivated gsm/cdma phones. they all do that :) Jul 26 14:45:10 using the google location services seems to work better for me on my vz pre2 Jul 26 14:45:54 probably not good if you want to do navi, but makes google maps actually work Jul 26 14:53:39 unactivated? Jul 26 14:57:11 add me to your g+ http://w.matbee.com/gpl Jul 26 15:21:35 PatrickC: so you use vzw's on sprint? Jul 26 15:30:23 could someone please make a patch so my googletalk stops disconnecting Jul 26 15:30:34 its driving me nuts Jul 26 15:38:50 I want a tweaks enabled patch that allows me to chose my default orientation for landscape mode Jul 26 15:39:17 I like to have my TP with the button on the left so the cover flips over the top... but the "default" landscape is the other way around Jul 26 15:44:39 how do i execute a service request via novaterm? Jul 26 15:51:08 I dont want a patch made, I just want the one I made posted. Jul 26 15:53:04 root@Dr:/# luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.preferences/systemProperties {} Jul 26 15:53:04 {"returnValue":false,"errorCode":-1,"errorText":"Unknown method \"systemProperties\" for category \"/\""} Jul 26 15:53:09 any ideas? Jul 26 15:57:37 rwatkins: was it returned to you? Jul 26 16:01:00 proper or works? Jul 26 16:01:12 Lumiere: no it was not Jul 26 16:03:41 Browser - "Add to Paper Mache" to save an article for Instapaper was submitted to the patch site last week, and others have gone thru since. Jul 26 16:07:19 So tired....so, so tired. Jul 26 16:07:29 Lumiere: so if the patch must be rooted at / then what subdir should the version I diff against be stored in? doesnt seem to be documented Jul 26 16:11:18 I am not involved I was just curious Jul 26 16:11:25 rwatkins: they may still be reviewing it btw Jul 26 16:11:47 Lumiere: ah, someone just rejected it 2 min ago - assumed it was you. Jul 26 16:12:04 since its been in the queue for ~5 days. Jul 26 16:12:19 nope Jul 26 16:12:33 no + by my name ;) Jul 26 16:13:31 I can make an educated guess at who did, but they'll contact you about it Jul 26 16:14:01 seeing as it just happened now as we discussed .. anyone here wanna speak up? Jul 26 16:15:17 yay.. metadoctor worked 1st try w/ this phone. made the move from 2.0.1 to 2.1 on my vz pre 2 Jul 26 16:19:55 nice. Jul 26 16:23:16 gonna see if i get any better results w/ the battery.. stickin with the stock kernel for a bit to see if anything changes. it had been doing the sleep/wakeup thing on 2.0.1 and i had to run apps like nodoze full time to get any life out of it Jul 26 16:24:59 kevets: I have better battery life with uberkernel personally Jul 26 16:25:20 uberkernel on a pre2? Jul 26 16:25:23 kevets: Have you tried GPS functionality after meta-doctoring your Pre2? I love being on 2.1, but GPS won't work anymore for me. Jul 26 16:25:27 nah mine is a pre- :) Jul 26 16:25:29 i had the f104a installed when i was still on 2.0.1 Jul 26 16:25:40 lets see Jul 26 16:26:45 hmm... i just set location services to use gps and it got a fix pretty quickly actually Jul 26 16:26:49 wasnt expecting that lol Jul 26 16:27:18 Hmmm... I wonder if I screwed mine up when I was messing with ebag's QPST GPS stuff.... Jul 26 16:30:36 ok actually i still had google location services enabled... with -only- GPS enabled i dont think its able to get a fix Jul 26 16:34:48 Yeah, I'm getting a google services location fix, but not GPS. Oh well, I don't use GPS on the phone that much anymore... Jul 26 16:35:49 RavenII: ping Jul 26 16:35:51 google location is surprisingly accurate for me Jul 26 16:36:19 PatrickC: yesum? Jul 26 16:36:30 what did you mean? Jul 26 16:36:40 by using vzw on sprint? Jul 26 16:37:06 The aGPS...but I just found out it's not compatible with 2.1 Jul 26 16:37:08 Sprint Pre+ hack? Jul 26 16:38:04 ? Jul 26 16:38:14 looks like it picked up most of my apps as well - thats awesome. no browser bookmarks though, weird. Jul 26 16:41:02 anyone does the sprint pre+ ? Jul 26 16:41:16 quick question... Jul 26 16:59:23 what terminal app should i use with 2.1? terminus isnt working right which is what i used before Jul 26 16:59:56 installing xecutah/xterm now to try that Jul 26 17:01:28 kevets: that Jul 26 17:01:41 and there is a terminus fix Jul 26 17:03:57 oh neat xserver in webos.. very interesting Jul 26 17:04:35 I finally figured out how to make use of the Ubuntu chroot Jul 26 17:06:16 AtomicPlayboy: how? Jul 26 17:06:55 Oh, just showing stuff off to coworkers Jul 26 17:07:09 I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get gnome-sesison started Jul 26 17:07:12 gnome-session Jul 26 17:07:57 Why can't a Sprint Comm board be activated in a Pre2?.... Jul 26 17:08:00 oh lame.. still getting bunches of sleep/wakeup messages after pressing power button Jul 26 17:08:02 and has it been tried Jul 26 17:08:20 lets try with a different kernel. sr71 or f104 for a pre 2? Jul 26 17:08:23 RavenII: no provisioner binary for 2.x Jul 26 17:08:45 rwatkins: your patch should be picked up by the next autobuilder run Jul 26 17:09:08 rwhitby: provisioning of what?...the Nam Programming?...PRL? etc? Jul 26 17:09:22 rwhitby: thanks! Jul 26 17:09:29 What I'd love to do is get Blender running Jul 26 17:09:30 RavenII: you're speaking to someone who lives in a country with no CDMA networks Jul 26 17:09:35 That'd be a feat Jul 26 17:09:37 rwhitby: damn it. Jul 26 17:10:07 RavenII: that's clearly stated on the wiki page Jul 26 17:10:52 rwhitby: what is? Jul 26 17:11:04 RavenII: the caveats of Sprint Pre 2 Jul 26 17:11:50 Right...but not exactly why... Jul 26 17:12:07 RavenII: well, now's your chance to remedy thta Jul 26 17:12:24 * rwhitby looks for the wiki change notification ... Jul 26 17:12:40 Sure, I'm assuming you're sending me the Pre2 for me to test with? Jul 26 17:12:45 RavenII: id be totally willing to help Jul 26 17:12:57 RavenII: $200 :) Jul 26 17:13:05 RavenII: you asked a question, you got an answer. now your responsibility is to update the wiki. Jul 26 17:17:45 (well, at least as much of an answer as you got) Jul 26 17:17:45 or is that much there already? Jul 26 17:31:03 is there any data storage available to services other than db8? no localStorage or webSQL I assume? Jul 26 18:32:02 rwhitby: "Unable to open saved packages database: SECURITY_ERR: DOM Exception 18" in Preware Jul 26 18:42:35 rwhitby: Restart of the TouchPad fixed this issue. Jul 26 19:46:47 I know there's a way to ssh into your pre...but how about ssh'ing TO a device? Jul 26 19:54:18 I'm not sure that those are different things? Jul 26 20:03:24 so...you can SSH from your computer to the WebOS device...but can you SSH from your WebOS device to a server/computer? Jul 26 20:03:42 yes Jul 26 20:03:47 via terminal Jul 26 20:05:43 oh, yeah command line ssh works just fine Jul 26 20:07:37 Over Wifi only? Jul 26 20:07:52 no, 3g works fine Jul 26 20:09:53 i use ssh over 3g on my pre2 alot Jul 26 20:09:59 damn it... Jul 26 20:10:20 I was doing hostname:port instead of -p hostname Jul 26 20:10:31 -p port hostname* Jul 26 20:10:50 Nice...I could practice my cisco stuff on the go.... Jul 26 20:11:01 Another reason to like this device. Jul 26 20:17:03 is there a version of Lumberjack that works on 3.0? Jul 26 20:37:50 RavenII: does the ios emu work? Jul 26 20:38:35 ... before I cause hysteria, I should probably point out that cisco was the topic under discussion Jul 26 20:39:21 Oh no, I have my switch and router at home... Jul 26 20:41:53 That would be awesome thought dwc- Jul 26 21:04:13 The Advanced Camera Configuration patch shows that it is showing as not available for 2.1.0. I may have made a submission form mistake, but I meant to only check 2.1.0 as the supported OS version. Jul 26 21:10:37 who is the head dev on the "Max Blocker" patch Jul 26 21:10:45 I cannot remove or upgrade it Jul 26 21:11:22 i think its warthog kernel Jul 26 21:11:53 what do you mean? like warthog is the dev, or the problem? Jul 26 21:15:42 i always get this error: Jul 26 21:15:44 Unable to run command: IPKG_OFFLINE_ROOT=/media/cryptofs/apps /bin/sh /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/ipkg/info/org.webosinternals.patches.misc-max-blocker.prerm 2>&1 Jul 27 00:32:59 how fast has the touchpad been? 1.5GHz yet? Jul 27 00:39:17 I have a very strange preware question if anyone is up for it Jul 27 00:40:14 I just Doctored my sprint pre 2 but preware "uninstalls" itself after i reboot Jul 27 00:40:36 it shows up as a partially downloaded app in the launcher Jul 27 00:41:21 it will not let me unintall this placeholder and of course it does not show up in the software manager Jul 27 00:45:08 here is a screenshot Jul 27 00:45:09 http://twitpic.com/5wdy9k Jul 27 00:47:06 did you use the preware auto install option in the metadoctor? Jul 27 00:51:39 yes Jul 27 00:54:06 that's your problem Jul 27 00:55:00 ok, so i need to recreate a new meta-doctor? Jul 27 00:55:09 any TouchPad users here that wouldn't mind beta testing an app of mine? Wall Switch (a wallpaper switching app) Jul 27 00:55:11 is there any other way to clean this out? Jul 27 00:56:03 I believe its fixable Jul 27 00:56:08 I just forget how Jul 27 00:56:40 and idea where i can search? Jul 27 00:56:52 the wiki maybe.. Jul 27 00:56:54 not sure Jul 27 00:57:02 hmmm **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 27 02:59:57 2011