**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 02:59:57 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 04:47:29 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 04:42:14 2011 Jul 28 05:21:13 what happened to the good, 'ol vkb from 1.4.5? Jul 28 05:21:20 why doesn't it work in 2.x? Jul 28 05:23:41 PatrickC, vkb in 1.4.5 was a homebrew creation based on the symbol popup Jul 28 05:23:48 that code doesn't exist in 2.X Jul 28 05:23:53 ah Jul 28 05:23:58 2.X has it's own vkb, but is disabled on the phones Jul 28 05:23:58 that totally stinks Jul 28 05:24:05 there is a patch to turn it on Jul 28 05:24:12 not anymore Jul 28 05:24:15 it was removed irc Jul 28 05:24:17 iirc* Jul 28 05:24:47 I used to use 2.x's vkb.. super buggy Jul 28 05:24:56 I want the homebrew one back.. Jul 28 05:32:40 yeah, I do remember it being buggy Jul 28 05:32:54 PatrickC, why use a vkb when you have a physical one? Jul 28 05:33:02 and limited screen real estate on the phones Jul 28 05:33:05 Wordpress app Jul 28 05:33:12 looks/works better in landscape Jul 28 05:33:29 yes.. the Enyo wordpress app.. pre2 Jul 28 17:18:59 Ok...so activated Sprint Pre+...swapped comm board with unactivated Pre- board....can make voice...but no data...can't update data profile...anyone run into that issue? Jul 28 17:29:03 did you extract your keys and everything? Jul 28 17:29:14 Keys? Jul 28 17:30:08 call sprint and get the key for it Jul 28 17:30:14 MSL Jul 28 17:30:26 I have that... Jul 28 17:34:35 then type ##MSL# Jul 28 18:05:24 Really weird that it won't pick up the data settings. Jul 28 18:57:41 Why does sprint cs suck so bad? Jul 28 18:58:03 ask for advance tech Jul 28 19:14:17 Is it possible that data doesn't work because of some sort of mismatch in hardware? Jul 28 19:14:22 I can't imagine that being the case... Jul 28 19:56:53 Ok, so...I doctored back to the stock Sprint 1.4.5 on my P+ and voila...data. Jul 28 19:57:18 I feel bad for ripping the sprint rep a new one... Jul 28 19:57:24 never feel bad Jul 28 19:57:30 summatusmentis: yeah, good call... Jul 28 19:57:34 feelings are for the weak :P Jul 28 19:57:38 Hahaha Jul 28 19:57:52 RavenII, blame the reps for sprint not getting new devices Jul 28 19:58:04 lol Jul 28 19:58:06 I really tore into her too... Jul 28 19:58:20 I actually do feel bad...at least it was online chat and not voice... Jul 28 19:58:26 I would have REALLY felt bad. Jul 28 19:58:28 did say "here's a sprint pre3, don't tell anyone, and stop yelling at me!" Jul 28 19:58:44 Nah...that twat. Jul 28 19:58:53 srsly Jul 28 19:59:06 She said..."Sir, I'm making <$10/hr...you think I care?" Jul 28 19:59:10 just in other words. Jul 28 19:59:17 hah Jul 28 19:59:19 hahaha Jul 28 20:00:24 Right...so...back to me wiping my device....along with it's backup... Jul 28 20:02:39 The other words were "they don't pay me enough to deal with this (&^*(%(*%(" Jul 28 20:14:06 Damn it, should have done a PRL update. Jul 28 22:25:33 whoa pre3 has 480x800 screen?! Jul 28 22:30:18 so they say Jul 28 22:30:47 it'll be out a little after the entire world moves to QHD Jul 28 22:37:24 linuxjacques: well they're sending out emails to devs telling them to update their apps to that resolution Jul 28 22:37:32 so it better :) Jul 28 22:37:45 heh, qhd :( Jul 28 22:44:17 what about the 7" tablet? Jul 28 22:45:06 linuxjacques: no idea. all i know is i'm gonna hafta find some GUI framework that I like/can use, or pony up in terms of building resizable UI's Jul 28 22:45:20 because writing and testing different ones for all these devices is just silly :) Jul 28 22:49:59 yeah, AFAWK pre3 won't have enyo, right? Jul 28 22:50:08 linuxjacques: indeed Jul 28 22:50:13 linuxjacques: although i'm talking about PDK apps :( Jul 28 22:50:35 duh, I shoulda known that Jul 28 22:54:42 dtzWill: was it you who said the accelerometer axes on tp are different than on the phones? Jul 28 22:57:12 linuxjacques: yeah but only internally. SDL should expose the same Jul 28 22:57:27 ah, ok Jul 28 22:57:29 or at least that's what i took from the sdl patch, i have almost zero experience with it Jul 28 22:57:34 flips the z-axis or something iirc Jul 28 22:57:48 did you see anything in there about gyro or compass? Jul 28 22:57:56 I should really look at them Jul 28 22:58:07 nope, but they don't expose that via SDL anyway afaik Jul 28 22:58:56 the PDL_* methods aren't in SDL Jul 28 22:59:02 (PDL_EnableCompass/PDL_GetCompass) Jul 28 22:59:40 but because i like you i'll do a quick grep on both ;) Jul 28 22:59:52 nope, no gyro or compass in the sdl sources, just FYI Jul 28 23:00:22 thank, I forgot I saw those pdl calls yesterday Jul 28 23:00:56 hmm, I wonder how the gyro is being used Jul 28 23:01:34 linuxjacques: whta devices have a gyro? might be a dumb question... Jul 28 23:03:09 AFAIK so far only the tp (of palm's devices) Jul 28 23:09:48 hmm, from the datasheet, it looks like the gyro might be interfaces with the accel Jul 28 23:09:52 interfaceD Jul 28 23:10:28 "The MPU-30X0 has an embedded 3-axis gyroscope and Digital Motion 2 ProcessorTM (DMP) hardware accelerator engine with a secondary I C port that interfaces to third 2 party digital accelerometers to deliver a complete 6-axis sensor fusion output to its primary I C port. This combines both linear and rotational motion into a single data stream for the application." Jul 28 23:10:59 s/I C/I2C/ Jul 28 23:11:00 linuxjacques meant: "The MPU-30X0 has an embedded 3-axis gyroscope and Digital Motion 2 ProcessorTM (DMP) hardware accelerator engine with a secondary I2C port that interfaces to third 2 party digital accelerometers to deliver a complete 6-axis sensor fusion output to its pr... Jul 29 01:00:27 7 minutes to transfer 200mb... Jul 29 01:00:37 that. is. slow. Jul 29 01:03:01 is there literally nothing that can be done about the usb drive transfer speeds? Jul 29 01:04:58 RavenIII: using usb 1? Jul 29 01:06:30 Negative...USB2....(on a mac...because it's white, and I'm cool because I have one, there I said it!) Jul 29 01:08:22 well i just transferred > 300MB in ....fast enough i didn't check :/ Jul 29 01:08:32 that's lame :/ Jul 29 01:09:41 Dude, it's...I can't even explain how slow it is... Jul 29 01:09:55 it's 200mb in 7 minutes slow. Jul 29 01:10:31 yeah, i seriously _just_ ran into taht Jul 29 01:10:46 switched cables up, since i charge from front usb 1 port frequently Jul 29 01:10:52 and was like zomg this is taking foreevverrr Jul 29 01:10:52 >.< Jul 29 01:11:13 dtzWill: the cable made a difference? Jul 29 01:11:29 RavenIII: no, but i have two cables chilling in front of my box Jul 29 01:11:34 one plugged into slow usb 1.x front port Jul 29 01:11:41 other running to back free usb 2 port Jul 29 01:12:17 and i was using the wrong one Jul 29 01:12:23 but didn't notice since mostly i just novaterm in and taht's that Jul 29 01:12:52 Ohhh....I wish that was the case for me...they're both 2.0 Jul 29 01:18:38 Trying my other computer right now...it was USB stick to Pre transfer, I'm transferring the data on to the local drive first then transferring to the Pre... Jul 29 01:23:10 Same thing... Jul 29 01:31:55 anyone know of a good video app?...hb or app store... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 29 02:59:56 2011