**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 02 02:59:57 2011 Aug 02 03:00:34 is the 1.998GHz kernel public yet? in the testing feeds? Aug 02 03:01:11 Geez, 2ghz? Aug 02 03:01:17 yep Aug 02 03:01:20 I thought that was a joke Aug 02 03:01:20 gnarly. Aug 02 03:01:59 Can 1 haz some overcl0k? http://t.co/PyO7Won Aug 02 03:02:25 Proof of concept :p Aug 02 03:02:28 that is awesome Aug 02 03:02:29 heh Aug 02 03:02:45 he is gonna let the genie out of that thing Aug 02 03:05:08 * PatrickC dreams of 3.0GHz... Aug 02 03:05:08 :) Aug 02 03:05:37 imagine.. a tablet.. running at 3.0GHz dual-core... :D Aug 02 03:05:47 `and getting about 2 hours of battery life Aug 02 03:05:55 heh Aug 02 03:06:08 Yeah, at this point, its about software optimization, not raw cpu power Aug 02 03:06:20 but to blistering fast hours of battery point :) Aug 02 03:06:25 i really really dislike this damn java downloader thing for the dr Aug 02 03:06:38 etx`: word. Aug 02 03:06:47 What java download thing? I use the direct link :p Aug 02 03:06:50 hate hate hate :D Aug 02 03:06:52 palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/touchpad/p302r0d08012011/wifip302rod/webosdoctorp302hstnhwifi.jar Aug 02 03:06:59 Exactly^ Aug 02 03:07:17 just incase anyone needs it, i just used wireshark to grab the url Aug 02 03:07:21 the direct link wasn't working correctly for me, I couldn't get it to rn Aug 02 03:07:46 which direct link? that one i just pasted? Aug 02 03:07:51 or a different one Aug 02 03:08:03 i gotta unleash the magical meta dr on this thing Aug 02 03:08:33 I was talking about the 3.0.0 link recently Aug 02 03:08:41 ahh yeah Aug 02 03:13:44 http://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/98228802198581248 Aug 02 03:14:45 etx`: just grab the link from our wiki page Aug 02 03:14:58 Did the new Pivot issue come out? Aug 02 03:15:02 yep Aug 02 03:15:19 Wish there was a web version Aug 02 03:15:34 Wow Rod, you guys are fast! :) Aug 02 03:16:10 rwhitby: does meta doctor need to be updated to support 3.0.2? Aug 02 03:16:54 Pivot says that the PHD app actually installs the whitepages patch Aug 02 03:23:05 etx`: just about to push that. was testing it first. Aug 02 03:24:52 etx`: ok, pushed. Aug 02 03:30:16 ah sweet Aug 02 03:30:46 i renamed the 3.0.2 dr jar to the filename for 3.0.0 Aug 02 03:30:52 then i did a make Aug 02 03:30:54 is that bad Aug 02 03:32:01 haaaaa webos-internals boot logo, awesome :) Aug 02 03:32:29 so if i have a pixi with a black screen, that i can't seem to boot or novaterm into (shouldn't i be able to novaterm into bootie?) Aug 02 03:32:37 thoughts on next steps? :( Aug 02 03:32:57 (novacom -l doens't report it, but it does show up as Palm/bootie in dmesg) Aug 02 03:33:24 Doesnt even go into recovery mode? Aug 02 03:34:27 Abyssul: nope, volup+cable in doesn't let me connect Aug 02 03:34:31 (and screen is black always) Aug 02 03:34:50 dtzWill: try the X key instead of vol up Aug 02 03:35:02 x key? Never heard of that Aug 02 03:35:28 hmm, nothing, but ty. Aug 02 03:37:04 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery Aug 02 03:37:05 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery is scary and seems specific to hardware on the pre... Aug 02 03:37:10 Abyssul: haha :) Aug 02 03:37:12 I was first! Aug 02 03:37:27 also afaict it wants tokens that i coulda-shoulda dumped earlier? Aug 02 03:37:32 I think you may just be putting it in recovery mode wrong unless there is a hardware fault **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 02 03:41:18 2011 Aug 02 03:44:27 Abyssul: the kernel code says that you can use vol up, but X as well ;) Aug 02 03:44:56 Oh o.O thats new Aug 02 03:47:33 bummer. Aug 02 03:48:12 ? Aug 02 03:49:27 oh just bummer that i have this lightly-used pixi+ that i managed to bork Aug 02 03:50:51 especially since it sat on a shelf for almost all it's life, for testing purposes Aug 02 03:50:53 *sniffle* Aug 02 03:51:02 how have i failed you, oh innocent pixi Aug 02 03:52:26 poor little guy Aug 02 03:52:51 Now its only a skipping stone Aug 02 03:53:47 dtzWill: did you leave it to charge for a while? Aug 02 03:54:35 pretty sure last time i tried to revive it i did, but i'll give that another go Aug 02 03:54:54 dtzWill: better yet, charge the battery in another phone Aug 02 03:55:09 only got the one, but otherwise i'd give that a go. Aug 02 03:55:17 rwhitby thanks for fixing my keyboard at OSCON! Aug 02 03:55:26 What was wrong with it? Aug 02 03:55:43 ziplock503: hey, no worries. Aug 02 03:55:49 bent piece of plastic Aug 02 03:55:56 it wouldn't type "bbq", just switched it all to "barbie" Aug 02 03:56:04 only rwhitby knew how to fix it Aug 02 03:56:20 Damn, I figured someone had a fix for the "hard to press keyboard" on my Pre- Aug 02 03:56:33 ahh lol Aug 02 03:57:05 or double key press on some +'s Aug 02 03:57:39 My orange key only works if I press down fairly hard Aug 02 03:57:48 I took it apart, but couldnt find anything wrong Aug 02 03:58:13 hmm Aug 02 03:59:01 Similar with other buttons too. It kind've sucks Aug 02 03:59:16 Guess thats what happens to a 2 year old Pre- Aug 02 03:59:21 that your main pre? Aug 02 03:59:36 It was Aug 02 03:59:49 I just converted a new Pre2 into a Sprint Pre2 Aug 02 03:59:58 and used the old parts to turn it into a Pre- Aug 02 04:00:12 GSM Pre-* Aug 02 04:00:24 nice me2 ... gonna use it for other phone or wifi only Aug 02 04:00:24 My Plus double presses sometimes, and sometimes misses keys :@ Aug 02 04:00:52 pre2 kb is solid Aug 02 04:01:14 Im giving it to my sis as a wifi device Aug 02 04:01:24 awesome Aug 02 04:02:11 what kernel you use on ur pre2 Aug 02 04:02:35 I'm trying blackbird Aug 02 04:03:29 Stock Aug 02 04:03:35 None make a difference to me Aug 02 04:03:38 seems most stable by far Aug 02 04:03:52 stock was good also Aug 02 04:05:01 Agh, screen captures not showing in photos app Aug 02 04:05:24 :( mine work Aug 02 04:29:34 ziplock503: if you are brave, try the 1.4GHz Aug 02 04:29:43 F14 Tomcat Aug 02 04:37:57 I might give it another go Aug 02 05:44:34 Does anyone elses Pre2 take forever to sharpen Pics Aug 02 05:45:04 sometimes Aug 02 05:45:28 Anywhere from 2 to 5 seconds Aug 02 05:45:44 not usually that long, but yes Aug 02 05:45:52 it has taken that long sometimes Aug 02 05:46:03 Stock kernel Aug 02 05:46:15 F14 1.4GHz Aug 02 05:46:31 F that. Im not killing my only pre2 Aug 02 05:47:07 I run F14 daily, and it runs fine for me. now it might not run fine for others, but it runs without fault here. Aug 02 05:48:35 I wonder if we can make a patch that automatically downloads and saves the MMS photos into the photo directory Aug 02 07:32:55 Hi, anyone else seeing errors when making a 3.0.2 meta-doctor? Aug 02 07:35:12 [: 3: p302hstnh: unexpected operator Aug 02 07:35:58 [: 3: 3.0.2: unexpected operator Aug 02 07:37:02 you missed the dash->bash step in the instructions Aug 02 07:39:14 hmm, I'll check again - 3.0.0 worked in (I thought) the same environment a few days ago... Aug 02 07:58:05 sorry if I'm being obtuse, Rod, but I don't know which instructions you referenced - I'm using the page at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor and don't see anything about bash vs. dash issues, etc... Aug 02 08:14:58 rwhitby, you there? Aug 02 08:16:30 phoque_uni: yes Aug 02 08:16:50 may I query you for a personal question? Aug 02 08:17:12 jbennett: you're right. looks like it is not mentioned. Aug 02 08:17:47 I wonder if I can modify meta-doctor not to require bash ... Aug 02 08:18:29 odd, though, that I didn't have any problems running the previous meta-doctor for 3.0.0... Aug 02 08:22:14 jbennett: did it actually cause a failure? Aug 02 08:24:54 it or something else... the make ends with: make[1]: *** [build/touchpad-p302hstnh-wifi-3.0.2/.patched] Error 1 Aug 02 08:25:43 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/meta-doctor' Aug 02 08:26:09 make: *** [all] Error 2 Aug 02 08:27:13 is there any other error before that? Aug 02 08:27:18 I haven't done a binary diff, but the .jar file in the build dir is exactly the same size as the original download from HP. Aug 02 08:28:33 nope, aside from the "unexpected operator" messages at the beginning, I didn't see any other errors before those make errors at the end. Aug 02 08:28:37 yes, it hasn't modified it at that point. Aug 02 08:31:32 FYI, along the way I did a git pull, and finally completely blew it away and did a fresh git clone - no difference. Aug 02 08:35:07 can you use pastebin.com to paste a full log of the run Aug 02 08:35:18 I'm not sure if it's significant, but I noticed there's still no patches/webos-3.0.2 directory in the latest meta-doctor - still just 3.0.0 Aug 02 08:35:51 sure, will do - just the console output, right? Aug 02 08:36:33 there should be a 3.0.2 directory, let me check Aug 02 08:37:10 yep, I missed it. try a git pull now Aug 02 08:37:26 that would indeed cause the makefile to stop Aug 02 08:37:35 sweet - always glad to find a "smoking gun." ;) Aug 02 08:40:31 ta-daaaah! that did the trick, alright... Aug 02 08:41:28 still get the "unexpected operator" messages, but I frankly may just not have noticed them before when the make was successful. Aug 02 08:52:19 well, thanks for the quick fix, Rod - time for bed here... Aug 02 10:39:19 Hi there Aug 02 10:39:52 Any Veer user here who successfully meta doctored it? Aug 02 10:40:32 Got a question on CARRIER_DMSET... What is it and why is it important when converting an ATT phone to DE firmware. Is it for the radio part? Aug 02 13:09:16 anyone running the ubuntu chroot on the tp? I have a quick question Aug 02 14:04:13 can someone tell me why adblocker or max blocker patches fail to install on my touchpad? look at the error http://pastie.org/2309174 Aug 02 14:05:39 http://gizmodo.com/5826861/newest-android-trojan-records-all-your-calls Aug 02 14:05:55 what is this, windows of the mobile world? Aug 02 14:06:47 umm... yeah, and you're not the first person to say that Aug 02 14:07:09 Crazy Aug 02 14:07:10 arguably, the strategy of "put it on ALL THE HANDSETS" is what winmo did Aug 02 14:07:19 Damn shame Sprint didn't pick up the P3 Aug 02 14:07:39 Looking more like HP doesn't wanna sell tot hem Aug 02 14:08:04 meh, it's really hard to know without a public statement from either company Aug 02 14:08:24 I'm really hoping the webos slate phone that was rumored to come to sprint is happening that way Aug 02 14:09:37 that thing was rly ugly Aug 02 14:09:46 looked like a G1 Aug 02 14:10:58 "that thing" Aug 02 14:11:05 there were never any images that I remember seeing Aug 02 14:11:39 Well one leaked like 4 months ago Aug 02 14:11:42 bluri cam shot Aug 02 14:13:56 orly? hrm Aug 02 14:14:15 although, calling something ugly from a blurrycam shot is... funny :) Aug 02 14:25:50 anyone run the ubuntu chroot? quick question Aug 02 15:38:20 What kernel do most of you guys run? Aug 02 15:38:50 which device? Aug 02 15:38:58 F14 on the Pre2 and F104 on the Pre- Aug 02 15:39:13 SR71 on the plus, and don't have a tp yet Aug 02 15:40:18 Uberkernel on my pre- Aug 02 15:40:25 currently running stock on the TP Aug 02 15:40:34 wanna wait till it's out of the testing feeds a bit more Aug 02 15:42:30 I like that the TP is up to 1.998GHz :D Aug 02 15:42:56 I think it's interesting, whether or not it matters, I don't know Aug 02 15:44:10 summatusmentis: you run the ubuntu chroot? Aug 02 15:44:18 no Aug 02 15:44:28 so I guess if I don't have /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs I did something wrong in meta doctor last night Aug 02 15:44:41 ok. well I have a quick question for anyone who has it Aug 02 15:44:49 etx`: openjdk or sun java? Aug 02 15:44:52 wirc on the touchpad is pretty awesome Aug 02 15:45:06 apple java heh Aug 02 15:45:13 whatever ships i Aug 02 15:45:15 ah osx :) Aug 02 15:45:22 with snow leopard Aug 02 15:45:39 then I have no clue, sorry Aug 02 15:45:53 if it was ubuntu, I could help more Aug 02 15:46:00 yeah Aug 02 15:46:15 maybe I'll build one on my ubuntu vm Aug 02 15:47:16 Aug 02 15:48:03 3722ms on subwoofer, little improvement Aug 02 15:52:16 Woah...I forgot I even asked a question...haha Aug 02 15:52:22 Pre+ Aug 02 15:52:34 I run SR71 on mine Aug 02 15:53:18 I'm running F105, but it's....slightly unstable. (expected)...but MAN is battery life short. You need a power plant connected to this thing. Aug 02 15:53:34 lol Aug 02 15:53:42 F104 is a good one too Aug 02 15:53:56 Yeah, there was something about it that didn't run right... Aug 02 15:54:01 battery life to me seems more related to data usage than clock speed for some reason Aug 02 15:54:02 I can't remember now... Aug 02 15:54:24 turning off 3g while in range of a wifi signal does wonder :) Aug 02 15:54:26 Lazar_Dobrescu: yeah, that could be...but I'm mostly just playing dope wars orrr....Woodenigma Aug 02 15:54:33 F104A works fine for me Aug 02 15:54:33 ah yeah playing games kills it :) Aug 02 15:55:01 What else is there to do with a smart phone besides games and internet? Aug 02 15:55:07 ebooks for me Aug 02 15:55:19 Oh THAT screen!? Aug 02 15:55:21 wow Aug 02 15:55:34 I used to read on a treo 650 so yeah it's an improvement I guess... Aug 02 15:55:51 That...yeah, that would be an improvement. Aug 02 15:56:03 but seriously the palm pre in landscape mode is perfectly fine for reading Aug 02 15:56:11 the lines are close to as long as a paperback book Aug 02 15:56:13 Oh, yeah, I could see that. Aug 02 15:56:34 I love reading on my pre2 Aug 02 15:56:44 I can't wait to get my touchpad with Kindle! Aug 02 15:57:51 I wish I was getting a touch pad :( Aug 02 15:59:01 Too big for me...7 Inch is big enough (no that's what she said jokes)....I could still throw my nookcolor in my pockets Aug 02 15:59:22 definitely too big to used outside the house or office I agree Aug 02 15:59:25 haha Aug 02 15:59:37 RavenII, i have a Nook Color and my TP, i like my nook color for reading, my TP for everything else Aug 02 15:59:37 I'll bring mine everywhere Aug 02 15:59:43 once I get a case Aug 02 16:00:11 I sold my nook color to pay for a part of my touchpad Aug 02 16:00:20 I use my nc for networking apps, studying for CCNA, playing videos (without converting them)...etc. Aug 02 16:00:29 I use my P+ for on the go stuff... Aug 02 16:00:33 rock player ftw! Aug 02 16:00:47 Negative... Aug 02 16:00:54 bah Aug 02 16:01:17 that USED to be ftw....now? Aug 02 16:01:31 heh Aug 02 16:01:41 I personally think the 7" size is too small Aug 02 16:01:57 MoboPlayer Aug 02 16:02:26 summatusmentis: same here Aug 02 16:03:05 But what do you guys think of the screen size?...(giggity). Aug 02 16:03:11 haha Aug 02 16:03:27 still to small Aug 02 16:03:28 :) Aug 02 16:03:30 too* Aug 02 16:03:36 Haha... Aug 02 16:03:41 oh wow, I am running 104a...weird. Aug 02 16:03:47 that was the more stable of the 2. Aug 02 16:03:52 I like 104a Aug 02 16:04:35 F105 kicks the brightness up on my screen...where %30 is brighter on it, than it is using 104a...I like it dimmer... Aug 02 16:04:58 never noticed that Aug 02 16:05:01 and I've run both Aug 02 16:05:15 Hmm...Probably just me. Aug 02 16:05:39 On the bright side?...I'm getting the youversion guys to give me the IPK to the bible app that is STILL inaccessible... Aug 02 16:06:40 cool Aug 02 16:27:14 I had SSH set up on my pre2 Aug 02 16:27:28 then doctored, so I need to re-set up ssh? Aug 02 16:32:42 yeah I'm pretty sure you do Aug 02 17:09:22 So I uninstalled F104a and am trying to install another one...and the IPKG log says..."device kernel is not in factory condition, refusing to install replacement"... Aug 02 17:14:20 install the recovery kernel I think Aug 02 17:18:46 Yeah, just did....strange though. Aug 02 17:21:22 Still doesn't let me install SR71 Aug 02 17:25:38 RavenII: have you rebooted between installing/uninstalling kernels? Aug 02 17:25:45 yeah. Aug 02 17:26:01 it's just SR71...I just installed AV8B and it worked. Aug 02 17:26:04 hmm... then I dont' know Aug 02 17:26:53 Maybe bad package? Aug 02 17:30:12 anyone know what to do when your pre stops making sounds? Aug 02 17:30:48 linuxjacques_: plug your head phones in and out a few times... Aug 02 17:30:58 wait....does that include out of the ear piece? Aug 02 17:31:16 I don't even have headphones Aug 02 17:31:25 Oh, then no. Aug 02 17:31:39 Did you just assemble it? Aug 02 17:31:49 or did it just stop out of nowhre? Aug 02 17:31:52 where* Aug 02 17:32:21 I set it to vibrate and it started vibrating almost constantly Aug 02 17:32:32 then I switched back to sounds then back to vibrate Aug 02 17:32:39 and it seemed OK Aug 02 17:32:49 now I want sound again and I get none Aug 02 17:32:56 Oh...no idea. Aug 02 17:33:00 Sorry. Aug 02 17:33:03 np Aug 02 17:39:19 I see lots of this in the messages log: Aug 02 17:39:26 2011-08-02T17:38:06.949096Z [764] palm-webos-device user.notice audiod: _connectSocket: connect error 'Connection refused' on fd (15) Aug 02 17:40:57 linuxjacques_, I assume pulseaudio died (don't believe me, but it should be fixed with a reboot) Aug 02 17:42:42 soo... I notice even on 3.0.2 all the patches in the list in preware show 3.0.0? Aug 02 17:44:13 NuttyBunny: I rebooted twice and pulled battery once Aug 02 17:46:01 linuxjacques_: plug the headphones, make it sound, and while it's sounding unplug the headphones? Aug 02 17:46:46 NuttyBunny: I don't have any headphones Aug 02 17:46:52 2009-11-02T00:40:04.917633Z [20] palm-webos-device user.err pulseaudio[1181]: core-util.c: Failed to create secure directory: Perm ission denied Aug 02 17:47:08 dunno what's up with that 2009, this is from earlier today Aug 02 17:47:17 or if you make a call Aug 02 17:47:25 does it think its in headphone mode? Aug 02 17:47:35 or does the speaker/mic work? Aug 02 17:48:09 linuxjacques_: Sorry, I just throwed some stones :( Aug 02 17:49:17 speakerphone works Aug 02 17:49:48 but not "not speakerphone"? Aug 02 17:50:19 * oilsworkn bets the vibrate did something to headphones jack Aug 02 17:50:29 stick a paperclip or something around in there haha Aug 02 17:51:26 earpiece sound works too Aug 02 17:51:30 huh Aug 02 17:51:33 * oilsworkn is out of ideas Aug 02 17:51:43 it's some software issue Aug 02 17:52:19 non-phone-call sounds don't work, and I see lots of audiod errors in messages Aug 02 17:53:03 2011-08-02T17:49:43.062713Z [1460] palm-webos-device user.warning mediaserver: MediaPlayerImpl::load: tearing down and requesting new pipeline2011-08-02T17:49:43.400146Z [1460] palm-webos-device user.err mediaserver: PlayerPipeline::prerollPipeline: gst_element_get_state failed! Aug 02 17:55:26 2011-08-02T17:50:34.435363Z [1511] palm-webos-device user.err audiod: FYI, errno is: 97 'Address family not supported by protocol' (??) Aug 02 18:06:55 can someone check permissions on /var/lib ? Aug 02 18:07:17 this looks strange: dr-x-wSr-t 14 root root 4096 May 25 12:06 /var/lib/ Aug 02 18:15:16 WebOS is cool. Aug 02 18:15:42 here here! Aug 02 18:16:11 yes! Aug 02 18:17:51 JollyDog: It's cool!!! but.. it's called "webOS" :D Aug 02 18:17:51 (not WebOS) Aug 02 18:20:57 webOS is cool. Aug 02 18:40:01 is the touchpad battery user replaceable ? Aug 02 18:41:11 I don't believe so Aug 02 18:41:21 without voiding the warranty Aug 02 18:41:31 ok Aug 02 18:41:38 i will not try to pry the case open then Aug 02 18:44:08 so, is there a patch to disable search plugin popups in webos 2.1 Aug 02 18:44:11 ? Aug 02 19:20:57 kevets: if not, can you make one? that stuff annoys me Aug 02 19:23:06 haha yeah.. seems like every site has one I'm always swiping away Aug 02 20:09:13 Anyone have trouble with their pre screen turning on every 5-10 seconds? Aug 02 20:09:51 Wonder if its the headphone jack Aug 02 20:11:02 Try a reboot? :D Aug 02 20:11:42 abyssul, that disable device sleep setting is working nicely so far Aug 02 20:12:25 Is it? Aug 02 20:12:29 Im still experimenting Aug 02 20:12:32 Im getting mixed results Aug 02 20:12:56 I would get better results if my screen stayed off ... Aug 02 20:13:26 Yep, headphone jack problem Aug 02 20:13:46 I wonder if I can take the headphone jack from my pre- and put it in my Pre2 Aug 02 20:14:30 damn. yeah that is something I hope doesnt get screwed up on my pre2 Aug 02 20:15:03 Thats the only piece other than the comm board that was swapped Aug 02 20:15:10 and it figured its buggy <.< Aug 02 20:15:18 yeah, my battery consumption slowed down quite a bit from what I can tell Aug 02 20:16:08 had my phone off the charger this morning starting around 8am and at like 2:30 still had about 50 percent remaining Aug 02 20:16:38 not feeling as hot as before, either Aug 02 20:17:28 I'm trying to use wifi at all my client sites that have it so it can turn off my 3g which seems to help too Aug 02 20:29:01 I think I'm just doomed for battery life -- my house is in a marginal cell district Aug 02 20:30:54 that also seems to be a killer Aug 02 20:34:30 anyone get navit to work? Aug 02 20:36:10 I can get 2-3% per hour on idle Aug 02 20:42:31 will dr batter show that kind of info or is there another app that works well for tracking use? Aug 02 20:56:55 Dr battery works as intended Aug 02 20:59:13 I was wondering if there might be something that would give a nice percentage instead of just the current draw Aug 02 20:59:26 I guess I could just figure it out too Aug 02 21:06:02 THAT'S what I didn't like about F105...can't use KeyBoss... Aug 02 21:11:28 So the Kindle application seems to be the best reader on the Touchpad currently Aug 02 21:11:50 I wish there was an epub reader :-( Aug 02 21:12:02 more specifically, a nook app Aug 02 21:12:21 linuxjacques: *and* it's possible to take arbitrary ebooks from calibre, convert them say from to epub to azw, and make them load in the kindle app Aug 02 21:12:36 well technically you convert them to .mobi but it's the same difference Aug 02 21:12:51 destinal: maybe I need to do that Aug 02 21:13:06 linuxjacques_: just figured it out *but* I have to overwrite an existing book for it to work Aug 02 21:13:30 I haven't figured out the database format so for right now my "Dracula" book is actually Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy :) Aug 02 21:14:24 all files are in /media/internal/.palmkindle Aug 02 21:15:00 just file *.azw -- file will identify them as Mobipocket "Whatever the title is" Aug 02 21:15:37 (and dracula is $0 so it was easy enough to experiment with) :) Aug 02 21:17:16 now, if we can figure out how to add books to the app's database (and covers should be easy enough as well) we should be set Aug 02 21:18:45 but for now you can carry around a book as Dracula Aug 02 21:18:52 kevets, 2.8% per hour with sleep enabled Aug 02 21:20:26 destinal: nice, I will probably want to talk with you more about this later :-) Aug 02 21:20:37 what about with sleep disabled? Aug 02 21:20:41 Im doing that now Aug 02 21:20:58 kevets, note this is on wifi now, although I get similar results on evdo Aug 02 21:21:31 how are you figuring the percent? Aug 02 21:28:45 kevets, navit on what device? Aug 02 21:31:56 PatrickC: you around? Aug 02 21:32:01 yes Aug 02 21:32:45 actually nvm lemme google some more... Aug 02 21:33:12 ok Aug 02 21:37:20 navit on Pre2.. I dont think I have the map file downloaded correctly Aug 02 21:37:37 So...copy and paste...does it work in 2.1?..because when I try what everyone says...it just goes to the top of the screen as if I"m trying to search...and gives me a funky h... Aug 02 21:38:06 I used navit maps to try and download direct to phone but it just stopped when it got to 2.0gb Aug 02 21:38:42 there is a filesize max of 2gb on /media/internal Aug 02 21:39:10 or no, that was /media/cryptofs Aug 02 21:39:22 nevermind Aug 02 21:39:33 (actually, where is it stuffing the map files) Aug 02 21:39:33 raven copy and paste works for me. pre2 running 2.1 Aug 02 21:40:03 hmm I wonder if that isnt it Aug 02 21:40:32 Weird...I hit the symbol button...tap what I want...and nothing. Aug 02 21:40:38 no wait... Aug 02 21:40:42 I looked in the state view but didnt see DC or VA in there, to try and download a smaller file Aug 02 21:40:44 not symbol...I meant the.... Aug 02 21:40:52 what used to be orange button. Aug 02 21:41:00 the square! Aug 02 21:41:06 Yes. that one. Aug 02 21:41:22 yeah its actually like, the gesture 'button' that I have to press and hold Aug 02 21:41:38 then press c or v depending on what youre doing Aug 02 21:42:39 kevets, Battery Monitor has a % option Aug 02 21:43:49 Weird man...if I hit the opt...that's what it is...Opt key...or the shift key and tap the screen...it jumps up a bit and goes to the search field... Aug 02 21:44:51 for me, I highlight what I want, press and hold the middle of the gesture area and press c to copy Aug 02 21:46:04 gesture+c ftw Aug 02 21:46:13 nice. will check out battery monitor Aug 02 21:46:46 took me a few tries to realize thats what it was looking for Aug 02 21:47:51 keith, have you tried the navit maps app? Aug 02 21:48:08 oh... I should finish reading my backlog before speaking :) Aug 02 21:48:49 kevets, download the map manually from online and put it as the only file in the maps dir Aug 02 21:49:20 kevets: yeah, but how do you highlight? Aug 02 21:49:29 http://maps3.navit-project.org/ Aug 02 21:49:59 will try that. does it work with a custom map area or should I just get a predefined one? I think I tried custom before Aug 02 21:50:28