**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 10 02:59:57 2011 Aug 10 02:59:59 installing on a Touchpad. 32gb model so i have some space. Aug 10 03:00:27 I'm gonna do 8gb when mine arrives Aug 10 03:00:46 kirk, depends on what you are doing with the chroot, mine is 16gb, but 8 seems to be the average Aug 10 03:02:01 scoutcamper. since you went with 16, may i ask what you are using it for? Aug 10 03:02:44 kirk, i have multiple WM's, and quick office since i use mine for document editing for college classes Aug 10 03:08:19 scoutcamper, thank you for the insight. I will probably go with 8GB like most people. Aug 10 03:08:48 s/quick/open/ Aug 10 03:08:48 scoutcamper meant: kirk, i have multiple WM's, and open office since i use mine for document editing for college classes Aug 10 03:09:04 still wrong Aug 10 03:09:11 it's libreoffice now ;) Aug 10 03:09:12 openoffice Aug 10 03:09:16 oh lol Aug 10 03:09:37 * Loudergood is actually in the middle of downloading the latest to my desktop Aug 10 03:10:40 I assumes he meant LibreOffice Aug 10 03:11:15 whatever they call it now lol Aug 10 03:13:46 wait Aug 10 03:13:51 they renamed openoffice libreoffice? Aug 10 03:14:10 they had to rename when the forked Aug 10 03:14:28 oh it's a fork Aug 10 03:14:29 nevermind Aug 10 03:14:32 you scared me for a second there Aug 10 03:14:48 lol Aug 10 03:15:49 "Also underway is the reduction of Java dependency, with the goal of minimizing security issues and improving application stability." <-- lol Aug 10 03:15:52 I'm sold Aug 10 03:16:23 indeed. libreoffice is the way to go Aug 10 03:18:14 did they ever manage to get the compatibility (or lack thereof) with Excel VBA into a *slightly* less laughable state? Aug 10 03:18:58 last time I looked, the language they were substituting in place of a VBA-like macro language had mostly spanish keywords Aug 10 04:05:27 wi 35 Aug 10 05:00:02 any pre2 UK news? need to test anymore kernels? Aug 10 05:00:42 just failing for more people on the forum Aug 10 05:01:15 anyone figure out where the pin is stored? Aug 10 05:01:56 i need to reset mine Aug 10 05:03:58 just spent hours trying all combinations to change the pin ;[ Aug 10 05:04:37 it appears there's a system call to reset it Aug 10 05:05:07 oh that'd be great Aug 10 05:05:27 setDevicePasscode to palm://com.palm.systemmanager Aug 10 05:06:41 ok going to terminus Aug 10 05:07:33 hm i forget what command to use Aug 10 05:07:47 ha terminus just crashed Aug 10 05:08:29 ok luna-send Aug 10 05:11:43 hm can I just do {"1234"} or {\"1234\"} ? Aug 10 05:14:52 hm can't type { in terminus , sigh Aug 10 05:17:30 use Xecutah Aug 10 05:17:41 '{"foo":"bar"}' Aug 10 05:18:39 what does in bar Aug 10 05:18:42 er goes Aug 10 05:24:46 fo and bar for that matter Aug 10 05:29:19 rwhitby: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17265 Aug 10 05:29:24 not sure if you saw this yet Aug 10 05:34:31 Xecutah doesn't help Aug 10 05:34:44 but I can copy/paste perhaps Aug 10 05:34:47 Robi_: what you doin? Aug 10 05:35:36 trying to run a luna-send command from 2.1 device Aug 10 05:35:49 novaterm on PC/Mac? Aug 10 05:36:03 no cable atm Aug 10 05:36:09 ah Aug 10 05:36:16 I'm of no help then Aug 10 05:36:19 XTerm? Aug 10 05:36:39 just did that with xecutah, can't figure out how to paste or type { } Aug 10 05:36:55 are you using the latest xserver? Aug 10 05:36:57 oh. the special chars.. I forget too.. Aug 10 05:37:39 yah ;[ can't even paste in terminus Aug 10 05:37:45 rwhitby: do you think sprint pre2's will be affected by the new profile thing? Aug 10 05:37:48 latest version of xserver/xecutah can do { } Aug 10 05:38:00 nvm Aug 10 05:38:05 read latest tweet Aug 10 05:38:55 i am using 0.7.3/0.8.1 Aug 10 05:39:01 which is latest no? Aug 10 05:40:56 ah figured out {} Aug 10 05:41:04 does paste work? Aug 10 05:41:10 rwhitby: ^? Aug 10 05:41:55 dunno about paste Aug 10 05:42:34 I've never gotten it to work with meta+v Aug 10 05:42:48 but idk about other way(s) Aug 10 05:43:12 meta = ctrl heh Aug 10 05:46:02 don't do meta + d Aug 10 05:46:49 meta+d? Aug 10 05:47:03 kills xterm Aug 10 05:47:16 oh lol Aug 10 05:47:22 d = die :) Aug 10 05:47:27 * PatrickC is guessing Aug 10 05:47:31 what is paste Aug 10 05:47:49 should be meta+v Aug 10 05:48:01 no that's ctrl-v in xterm Aug 10 05:48:02 but I don't think it works in pdk apps Aug 10 05:48:18 meta=ctrl, so ctrl-d Aug 10 05:48:33 exit Aug 10 05:52:05 dwc-: can u enlighten me on the "foo:bar" parameters? Aug 10 05:54:15 the palm application for the screen lock settings is com.palm.app.screenlock Aug 10 05:56:34 yeah? Aug 10 05:57:18 sending {"1111":"true"} i get { "returnValue": true } Aug 10 06:01:23 dwc-: what does screenlock have to do with systemmanager ? Aug 10 06:03:18 one calls methods provided by the ohter Aug 10 06:04:33 ok you're being mysterious :) i need a bit more clarity please Aug 10 06:10:31 trying not to hand out the skeleton key Aug 10 06:11:03 nod Aug 10 06:11:49 there's a method call in one of the pieces of that app to the service in question Aug 10 06:11:59 that'll tell you what parameters you need to set Aug 10 06:21:55 mpingu: long time no see Aug 10 06:33:24 hey DieterBohn Aug 10 06:33:38 Howdy Aug 10 06:34:20 long lost DieterBohn Aug 10 06:34:21 are you still sproting webos? Aug 10 06:34:37 Got a TouchPad :) Aug 10 06:35:11 cool :) Aug 10 06:35:17 Nice! Aug 10 06:35:20 with veer? Aug 10 06:35:34 its a pre3 silly Aug 10 06:36:03 hehe DieterBohn has inside connections Aug 10 06:36:05 the Dieter with a veer? he has the pre4 already probably Aug 10 06:37:05 *cough cough Adora cough* Aug 10 06:37:22 * PatrickC was about to say that Aug 10 06:38:14 me and Adora have 2 friends in common on FB! :P Aug 10 06:38:35 PatrickC: and one of them is your mom Aug 10 06:38:41 lol Aug 10 06:38:56 yeah.. my mom is not into technology at all lol Aug 10 06:40:36 DieterBohn: how's 'the verge' coming? Aug 10 06:40:50 I would die if my mom was on facebook (she would see my picture without a helmet and rip my head off) Aug 10 06:41:01 hey PatrickC :P Aug 10 06:41:06 just read somestrange stuff Aug 10 06:41:06 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20089381-17/apple-sued-over-speedy-mac-os-x-startup/ Aug 10 06:41:08 Jack87: lol Aug 10 06:41:16 mpingu: haha Aug 10 06:41:19 nice tag Aug 10 06:41:26 * PatrickC want to read that Aug 10 06:42:11 intresting Aug 10 06:43:30 that kind of patents sucks Aug 10 06:44:05 * PatrickC is off to bed Aug 10 06:44:07 night all Aug 10 06:46:13 mpingu: that's the weirdest thing ever. I just don't get it Aug 10 06:47:39 its sick or ? Aug 10 06:49:02 its horrible makes no sense to patten such a thing Aug 10 06:49:14 to my knowledge all computers use that form of booting Aug 10 06:56:35 they look to be patent trolls Aug 10 07:50:01 rwhitby: glad you're on the case https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=17270 - concerned at all? Aug 10 07:54:20 and some people still believe palm will provide webOS updates for older devices to support enyo Aug 10 07:54:58 yea, that one i don't believe at all. Aug 10 07:55:11 which is why i didn't even bother to learn enyo Aug 10 07:56:10 ouch Aug 10 07:56:18 i think their strategy is pretty clear Aug 10 07:56:43 try to sell as many new devices as possible, don't care about the users of old devices Aug 10 07:56:49 stbuehler: I'm writing a new app now, in Mojo. Aug 10 07:57:13 :) Aug 10 08:05:45 stbuehler: "try to sell as many new devices as possible" yet they're certainly twiddling there thumbs releasing said "new devices" Aug 10 08:06:06 nightburn: no-one said it was an effective strategy ;) Aug 10 08:06:18 hehe :D Aug 10 08:06:58 rwhitby: how can i find out the "version" my device identifies itself with? Aug 10 08:07:12 trying really hard to not let any of this bother me, it's just a phone. it's just a phone. it's just a phone. Aug 10 08:07:55 user-agent of my browser shows webOS/2.1.0 .. Pre/1.0 Aug 10 08:08:55 stbuehler: Impostah Device Profile scene Aug 10 08:09:52 Didn't some of the early meta dr scripts report older OS versions? maybe that's all they're cracking down on ? Aug 10 08:10:21 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=86757#p86757 Aug 10 08:16:32 rwhitby: if I'm reading your post correctly, it seems this change does not impact the Pre2. Although, I guess we don't know anything for sure yet. Aug 10 08:17:12 i see only the softwareBuildBranch (HP webOS 2.1.0) - no other webos versions. still an old device ofc :) Aug 10 08:17:17 The Pre 2 runs 2.x now, before and forever more. I can't see how it could be affected by this change. Aug 10 08:17:45 unless they get nitpicky with vzw pre2's with 2.1? Aug 10 08:18:16 stbuehler: carrierROM and dmSets are the important ones Aug 10 08:19:33 dwc-: if so, you just masquerade as 2.0.1 Aug 10 08:19:45 k. Nova-WR-Castle-285 and {"sets":"312","674"} Aug 10 08:19:49 So they're not comparing carrier data . I guess that's what I'd be most worried about . "No you can't run Pre2 on sprint" Aug 10 08:20:13 oh right, they only said 1.x vs 2.x Aug 10 08:20:20 nightburn: no-one knows what they are doing. especially not anyone at HP/Palm that I've spoken to. Aug 10 08:21:09 uggh, that statement is more concerning than anything. sounds like they're just running around with their head up their ass. Aug 10 08:21:11 changes to the profile server and app catalog and app submission portal are indistinguishable from random perturbations in my experience Aug 10 08:21:50 this is the first one which has actually been announced with any sort of specificity of what the change is Aug 10 08:22:13 well i guess that's an improvement then? heh Aug 10 08:22:19 ^^ Aug 10 08:23:55 I wonder if they've made some sort of enhancements that can't be supported by 1.x hardware Aug 10 08:24:17 sure :D Aug 10 08:24:30 huh. no, that doesn't make sense with the "also identifies as..." Aug 10 08:25:24 oh well... nothing I need to worry about for me Aug 10 08:26:11 which services would one loose btw? backup/restore of some core settings,accounts,messages? what about app catalog Aug 10 08:26:45 I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds. Once this news hits the frontpage of precentral....... the comments will just be more HP hate. Aug 10 08:26:55 if you logged out of the device (something which they can force on you), you would not be able to access app catalog again Aug 10 08:27:34 I personally am assuming it's something to do with DRM or security built into 2.x which they don't want people to be able to circumvent by flashing back to 1.x Aug 10 08:27:38 so they basically want us to replace the app catalog completely Aug 10 08:28:25 Seriously, I can't see a meta-doctor scenario that the change as they have stated it actually applies to. Aug 10 08:32:33 I just took a Sprint Pre- from 2.1.0 to 1.4.5.1 without incident. Aug 10 08:33:05 maybe their changes haven't actually taken effect yet? Aug 10 08:33:14 that's quite possible. Aug 10 08:33:43 although announcing a change to this stuff ahead of time is unheard of before ... Aug 10 08:45:56 Was wondering if anyone has heard of a palm pre running on the cdma portion of boosts network? Aug 10 08:46:45 boost has a CDMA portion? I only know about the iden portion. Aug 10 08:52:39 ka6sox: sure do, if you go to their website they have an android and couple of blackberries that run of a cdma network. I also own the 8530 for boost, but i want to get my pre on it instead, blackberries nice and all but im a die hard webos fan Aug 10 08:53:48 okay so that would be sprint's CDMA network then? as boost rides Nextel's iden. Aug 10 08:54:29 ka6sox: makes sense Aug 10 08:59:11 Something tells me boost won't allow your Pre because your Pre's ESN is not in their database. Aug 10 09:00:02 So unless you can figure out how to change your ESN (which is illegal) . Then, most likely, you're SOL. Aug 10 09:00:18 ive read of people getting there other phones from sprint on boost accounts Aug 10 09:00:30 just nothing specific to palm pre yet still researching but no luck Aug 10 09:01:02 Just call them and give your Pre's IMEI. Aug 10 09:01:10 gl Aug 10 09:02:23 the other problem is i currently have the blackberries plan, 60 a month one and i think the other people who have successfully switched their sprint phones to boost are using the 50 a month plans Aug 10 09:02:38 is boost a 24 customers service Aug 10 09:02:44 hour* Aug 10 09:02:58 no idea, i dont' think anyone here actually has boost. Aug 10 09:03:27 i wouldnt imagine so considering pres are only on sprint, verizon and att Aug 10 09:03:37 lol :) Aug 10 09:05:30 if you get it to work , please let me know ! lol Aug 10 09:11:48 im still researching but nothing yet, i dont imagine too many people have tried to do this so it might be hard to find someone who has Aug 10 09:12:09 http://forums.precentral.net/cdma-north-america/224473-getting-my-pre-activated-boost-mobile.html Aug 10 09:27:12 ka6sox: you still on? Aug 10 09:27:24 nightbur: or you? Aug 10 09:31:18 is the meid dec number the esn number? Aug 10 10:17:17 hello everyone Aug 10 13:52:39 hello everyone Aug 10 13:52:58 does anyone know how to launch a palm profile backup from the command line? Aug 10 14:11:55 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Luna_Send Aug 10 14:12:02 ahh, too slow Aug 10 14:13:27 that can be done with luna-send? Aug 10 14:13:36 wish I would have known that a while ago Aug 10 15:05:08 my phone is super angry Aug 10 15:14:23 it now seems to reboot at will Aug 10 15:14:34 and it hates being plugged in Aug 10 15:17:22 lol Aug 10 15:19:22 it's funny, except that I think it means my phone is dying Aug 10 15:19:49 or your phone just needs to take a nap Aug 10 15:20:02 no, this has been going on for 2 days Aug 10 15:20:38 it was mostly ok yesterday after I dropped the voltage, but I plugged it in, and then it shut down again in the middle of the night Aug 10 15:21:34 now I removed UK, and immediately got a TMC error Aug 10 15:21:37 uuugh Aug 10 15:23:14 summatusmentis, webos doctor needs to visit your phone Aug 10 15:23:39 scoutcamper: will doctoring fix it? Aug 10 15:24:50 summatusmentis, unknown, but it sounds like a software problem, and the doctor fixes those Aug 10 15:25:16 scoutcamper: it _could_ be a hardware issue, this is a pre- cobbled together from 2 pre-s Aug 10 15:25:40 * summatusmentis goes to get a saved package list out of preware Aug 10 15:26:01 summatusmentis, rule out software, then look at hardware Aug 10 15:26:08 yeah, seems reasonable Aug 10 15:26:14 I really hope it's just a doctor issue Aug 10 15:30:38 am I missing something crucial? Is there a step I need to take to save a package list? Aug 10 15:30:43 in preware? Aug 10 15:47:40 build my precious.... build..... Aug 10 15:48:20 this metadoctor build is just sitting Aug 10 15:48:21 guh Aug 10 15:50:03 ITS ALIVE!!!!! Aug 10 15:51:44 well... it WAS alive. Aug 10 15:55:30 note to self: TP does not like 1.9GHz Aug 10 15:55:38 lolol Aug 10 15:55:52 there, now the doctor is running Aug 10 15:57:27 it just.... locks up when trying to reach it. makes me sad. Aug 10 15:57:36 halfhalo: how'd you get that fast? I thought the only kernel was 1.5GHz? Aug 10 15:58:43 i did it by learning how the kernel OC'ing worked, then making my own, then looking around google for stuff on voltage increases, then making my own kernel with those. Aug 10 15:58:55 oh cool Aug 10 15:59:10 halfhalo-work: lies, you can't find information on google. Aug 10 15:59:18 I thought uNiXpSyChO had it up to 1.998 (or close to it) Aug 10 15:59:27 wait, what's google? Aug 10 15:59:39 is that like AOL? Aug 10 15:59:50 s/AOL/oil/ Aug 10 15:59:50 PatrickC meant: is that like oil? Aug 10 15:59:51 :P Aug 10 15:59:57 YUNOLIKE 0x24 SETTING TP?!? Aug 10 16:04:23 ok, time to try this with more fancy options Aug 10 16:11:06 crap, I just realized that re-doctoring my device might not let me login to palm profile Aug 10 16:11:10 given the security changes Aug 10 17:10:20 hello guys Aug 10 17:10:59 hello Aug 10 17:29:27 I am looking for suggestions on a WM for ubuntu chroot. Are any better than others for touch interface? Aug 10 17:30:21 no way to login to Impostah using another profile ?? Aug 10 17:30:26 I like e17 Aug 10 17:30:38 icewm seems to be popular Aug 10 17:31:59 guys , there is a way to login another profile using Impostah ? Aug 10 17:32:09 thanks. i will look into those two Aug 10 17:36:42 now the newb question. what command do I run to start it up Aug 10 17:39:51 nevermind i got it Aug 10 17:41:40 I installed e17, and am setting it up. anybody suggest a profile to use for a touchpad Aug 10 17:53:23 I used it on my phone, so I used the embeded ui myself Aug 10 19:00:21 howdy Aug 10 19:00:43 o/ Aug 10 19:02:06 what are the rules on updating the wiki? I wanted to take out the memboot section where it tells you to copy the image to the novacom folder.. (at least on linux I know that's totally unnec.. windoze anyone?) Aug 10 19:03:32 I believe that the policy is that if you see something inaccurate and can fix it, you should. It would be good to verify on all platforms or at least label your information as platform specific Aug 10 19:04:39 <~ Not a member of webosinternals, just a frequent lurker :) Aug 10 19:08:54 flare576_work: yeah I'm putting it into the discussion page but feel like it should change, at least on linux.. and hopefully on windows too if poss, bc not everyone is going to have root access Aug 10 19:19:53 * uNiXpSyChO smells bullshit Aug 10 19:20:17 dunDUNDUN!!!!!! Aug 10 19:29:32 halfhalo-work, where is your 2ghz kernel? Aug 10 19:31:22 Hello new here can someone tell me: Is Java installed on the Touchpad? Aug 10 19:33:06 Baja, for what purpose? Aug 10 19:33:16 are you trying to get applets to work, a native java application? Aug 10 19:33:25 to install preware Aug 10 19:33:38 you'll need a PC with Java Aug 10 19:33:48 ok Aug 10 19:34:07 which will then be able to run WebOS Quick Install (or a MetaDoctor solution) Aug 10 19:34:23 ah gotcha Aug 10 19:34:27 Have you purchased the Homebrew guide from the HP app store? Aug 10 19:34:28 you need to have your touchpad in developer mode as well Aug 10 19:34:32 really good resource. Aug 10 19:34:46 no not yet Aug 10 19:34:56 will do then Aug 10 19:35:45 that'd be pretty hardcore: a Touchpad running Linux with USB host drivers that can root a Pre/Pixi/Veer... Aug 10 19:35:50 it's a good jumpstart guide to homebrew and only 99 cents. also helps out the homebrew developers to keep doing the amazing things they do Aug 10 19:36:17 sold :) Aug 10 19:36:25 good price Aug 10 19:36:38 this is a really sweet tab Aug 10 19:37:20 did you get a Bluetooth keyboard? Makes it incredible Aug 10 19:37:59 my next purchase Aug 10 19:38:25 nice to see people getting excited about the touchpad Aug 10 19:38:31 and in turn, webos Aug 10 19:38:39 yes Aug 10 19:38:44 agreed Aug 10 19:38:49 yeah i need a keyboard too. Aug 10 19:39:17 I don't know if other keyboards can emulate the buttons, but some of the keys on the HP one are really handy Aug 10 19:40:01 (volume, brightness, music controls, "card view", search, and "alerts" are the unit-specific ones) Aug 10 19:40:40 yeah i really want it for the card view and search ones Aug 10 19:41:44 arrow keys "shuffle" through the cards correct? Aug 10 19:42:00 i don think so Aug 10 19:42:05 no :( Aug 10 19:42:11 aww man Aug 10 19:42:18 3.0.3? Aug 10 19:42:20 lol Aug 10 19:42:22 haha Aug 10 19:42:44 I think it's patchable... I really need to find time to try it because, theoretically, you should be able to capture the arrow key events and then send left/right swipe actions. Aug 10 19:42:46 with how big the left are right arrows are you would think is were so Aug 10 19:43:26 yeah, I was pretty disappointed. also, you'd think that Card+tab would do the same thing, but alas. Aug 10 19:43:32 * oil is getting a kb, hopes it gets fixed :) Aug 10 19:51:45 the HP touchpad keyboard is grogeous I wouldn't get any other Aug 10 19:51:57 gorgeous* Aug 10 19:52:00 It is pretty. Aug 10 19:52:37 I'm still trying to figure out a good way of carrying both the TP and keyboard... I have a case arriving soon, but I'm not sure the keyboard will fit in it alongside the TP. Aug 10 19:52:58 case and keyboard is my next outlay glad I caught the sale last weekend Aug 10 19:53:47 what I would like is an integrated keyboard and case like the Zagg brand they have for iPads Aug 10 19:54:24 it is brushed aluminum bright would be great adonized black for Touchpads Aug 10 19:55:11 I've seen those, and have to agree. I got a 3rd party case off Amazon, so I'll report in how well it does touting around both. Aug 10 19:56:08 nice I may become a fixture here lol Aug 10 19:56:21 I started with a Viewsonic Gtab Aug 10 19:56:33 it was a little exciting beast Aug 10 19:57:18 is that an android tab? Aug 10 19:57:27 yes Aug 10 19:57:52 they immediately got adopted by XDA-dev Aug 10 19:58:27 and custom ROMs came out Aug 10 19:58:45 Just FYI, though; if you want to talk dev stuff, this is the place to do it, if you want to talk general stuff about products, #webos might be a more appropriate spot. When this room gets buzzing with rod and puff and folks talking about their work, it m Aug 10 19:58:45 ight be considerate to hop over there :) Aug 10 19:58:55 but I had my eye on HP since they announced Aug 10 19:59:13 good idea Aug 10 19:59:16 huh, I was unaware of a character limit. Aug 10 19:59:22 thanks Aug 10 20:00:04 np, you're very welcome here, but some folks just don't realize there's 2 rooms :D Aug 10 20:02:16 * flare576_work also wants to patch in Card+tab as "alt-tab" .. Aug 10 20:22:38 * scoutcamper just preordered http://amzn.to/oI4ABR for is TP Aug 10 20:22:43 s/is/his/ Aug 10 20:22:44 scoutcamper meant: halfhalo-work, where his your 2ghz kernel? Aug 10 20:22:57 ~botkill Aug 10 20:35:47 lol Aug 10 20:55:27 * dwc- thinks that is a way to tell what you said last Aug 10 20:55:31 s/a/a/ Aug 10 20:55:40 darn, guess not Aug 10 21:00:02 huh? lol Aug 10 21:00:52 you trying to destroy the system with recursion? Aug 10 21:01:06 s/recursion/logic/ Aug 10 21:01:07 flare576_work meant: you trying to destroy the system with logic? Aug 10 21:36:48 s/darn, guess not/guess it only remembers so far back/ Aug 10 21:37:12 s/it/test/ Aug 10 21:37:23 or maybe it's just ignoring me Aug 10 21:46:07 so the default kernel seems to be stuck in a boot loop on my pre 2. not quite sure how to proceed. Aug 10 21:46:19 memboot successfully gets it to boot Aug 10 21:46:45 but firing up preware and reinstalling the default kernel just results in the same Aug 10 21:52:27 might be redoctoring tonight... sheesh Aug 10 21:54:46 gonna run save restore first? Aug 10 21:55:09 how is that done? Aug 10 21:55:34 it's a homebrew app to save app data. it's in preware Aug 10 21:55:43 infobot: ignore dwc- Aug 10 21:55:43 * infobot sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, dwc-!" Aug 10 21:55:47 i'm not super concerned about app data or nothin Aug 10 21:56:17 it's just handy for not typing in 30 character passwords all over again Aug 10 21:56:18 oh okay. just trying to make the doctoring less of a hit Aug 10 21:56:26 heh for sure Aug 10 21:56:27 wait, infobot is a 'her'? Aug 10 21:57:27 i just don't get how it wont allow me to install one of the other test kernels to get it booting, when its definitely running the stock kernel. Aug 10 21:58:03 ~infobot Aug 10 21:58:10 ~infobot? Aug 10 21:58:18 * dwc- can't remember how these things work Aug 10 21:58:23 infobot: infobot? Aug 10 21:58:29 infobot: dwc- Aug 10 21:58:38 dwc-: you can pm her Aug 10 21:58:54 yea, but I thought I remembered Aug 10 21:59:02 ~dwc- Aug 10 21:59:02 extra, extra, read all about it, dwc- is awesome Aug 10 21:59:04 _her_? Aug 10 21:59:42 "infobot sticks *her* fingers in *her* ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, dwc-!"" Aug 10 22:00:03 ~infobot Aug 10 22:00:04 i heard infobot is a her! Aug 10 22:01:13 ~halfhalo Aug 10 22:01:13 from memory, halfhalo is a web programmer specializing in ruby on rails and node.js server side applications, and also is dabbling in sysadmin work as well. He is also insane in the membrane, and drives way to fast on the streets. four-eights-halo. an angry molusk, or also an angry molusk Aug 10 22:01:14 :P Aug 10 22:16:44 hmmm... Aug 10 22:16:57 ~santa Aug 10 22:16:57 [santa] bringing us all gifts Aug 10 22:17:04 \o/ yay! Aug 10 22:19:55 * scoutcamper mentions that infobot does work via PM and thus doesnt have to clutter the main channel Aug 10 23:28:20 Anyone heard of a palm pre successfully being transfered to a boost account? Aug 10 23:28:28 how would I go about compiling the "fuse" kernel module for my touchpad? Aug 10 23:28:34 or my phone for that matter Aug 10 23:29:21 -or any kernel module.. i'm assuming that webos kernels are crosscompiled, not compiled on device.. Aug 10 23:29:45 basically I want to use this: http://code.google.com/p/boxfs/ on my phone.. Aug 10 23:30:14 it makes box.net into a filesystem, so it could be mounted at /media/internal/box.net for instance Aug 10 23:30:32 benklop, the source for "uberkernel" is avaliable at git.webos-internals.org Aug 10 23:30:42 ok Aug 10 23:32:37 benklop, http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/tree/testing-kernels/uber-kernel-touchpad Aug 10 23:33:11 thanks Aug 10 23:49:37 benklop: fuse is there already, it's used for cryptofs Aug 10 23:51:34 fuse ftw Aug 10 23:53:14 i wonder how it handles intermittent connectivity and hand-over from wifi to 3g and back Aug 10 23:53:39 that's the true measure of a mobile network filesystem solution Aug 11 00:08:11 yeah, that would be touch Aug 11 00:08:15 *tough Aug 11 02:02:53 * phil_bw wanders by Aug 11 02:14:54 Are there any known issues with the TP 3.0.2 DR and metadoctor?? Aug 11 02:15:12 didn't mean for hte double ?, sorry Aug 11 02:16:01 I edit the Makefile for the 2GB EXT partition, pick the touchpad, and wifi Aug 11 02:16:07 run: make unpack pack Aug 11 02:18:15 the unpack starts, but then I get permission issues. Aug 11 02:18:22 i'll have a pastebin in a sec Aug 11 02:21:44 http://pastebin.com/LB3LMALH Aug 11 02:26:03 I'll try it with the 3.0.0 version of the doctor Aug 11 02:30:17 well it looks like metadoctor doesn't work with 3.0.0 by default. it wants the latest and greatest Aug 11 02:30:20 that makes sense Aug 11 02:35:22 ok, i typed in: make unpack patch and things are going well now Aug 11 02:35:51 can anyone quickly explain the reasoning behind the patch argument? Aug 11 02:40:34 beingBoston: you can set VERSION=3.0.0 on the command line Aug 11 02:41:14 and in your pastebin you forgot the patch step Aug 11 02:41:56 ty Rod, i added patch to the command and i was able to pack it as well Aug 11 02:42:10 backing up the TP now, then the fun beings! Aug 11 02:52:48 beingBoston, the patch step is what actually makes the modifications to the doctor Aug 11 02:52:59 if you just unpack and pack, you still have a stock doctor Aug 11 02:53:18 gotcha, thanks cryptk Aug 11 02:54:06 and that md5sums file is generated during the patch step, hence why it gave a no such file error Aug 11 02:54:32 the meta doc doesn't have code to deal with it not being there since without the patch step, there is no point to the meta doc **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 11 02:59:56 2011