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Aug 14 03:04:04 <krope32> hey I'm thinking of trying out UbuntuChroot, can anyone tell me if I can create an ext3fs partition without wiping my device, or is the only option to create it with a custom meta-doctor and doctor the touchpad?
Aug 14 04:31:55 <dwc-> krope32: that is the "supported" method for doing so. if you're familiar with resizing filesystems/lvms/etc you can do it on your own
Aug 14 04:40:07 <krope32> cool, thanks dwc-
Aug 14 05:01:03 <dwc-> summatusmentis: maybe fixed my backup problem. I turned backups off and turned it back on and the backup finished without hozing the system.
Aug 14 05:01:10 <dwc-> we'll see tonight when the automated one kicks off
Aug 14 05:01:24 <dwc-> s/backup finished/manual backup finished/
Aug 14 12:41:53 <siestacat> Hi, I'm having an issue with my Pixi.
Aug 14 12:42:14 <siestacat> I just used webOS doctor on it, and I can't sign in to my palm profile because "I'm not connected to my carrier"
Aug 14 13:48:05 <cat-xeger> WTF... I'm running webos 2.1.0 ... why does this think that I need to update to 2.1.0 ?
Aug 14 13:49:24 <NuttyBunny> Verizon?
Aug 14 13:49:44 <cat-xeger> Rogers
Aug 14 13:49:51 <cat-xeger> I'm frankly dreading what this may do.
Aug 14 13:49:59 <NuttyBunny> But Rogers did get 2.1, right?
Aug 14 13:50:05 <cat-xeger> Yes.
Aug 14 13:50:14 <cat-xeger> ... and my phone is already running 2.1.0
Aug 14 13:50:22 <NuttyBunny> weird..
Aug 14 13:50:46 <cat-xeger> Makes me wonder what Rogers screwed up, and how painful things are going to be after this
Aug 14 13:50:47 <Loudergood> this always happens with a franken pre2
Aug 14 13:51:06 <cat-xeger> This isn't a franken pre2
Aug 14 13:51:17 <cat-xeger> This is a "as-shipped from HP" pre2
Aug 14 13:51:18 <Loudergood> hmm
Aug 14 13:51:41 * NuttyBunny checks for updates
Aug 14 13:52:44 <cat-xeger> ... and saying that I have limited trust in Rogers ability to pour piss out of a boot with instructions written on the sole...
Aug 14 13:53:26 <cat-xeger> ... would be putting it very mildly
Aug 14 13:53:38 <NuttyBunny> still stuck  "Checking for updates".... bah
Aug 14 13:54:55 <cat-xeger> Hmm... and I now apparently have app catalog installed twice
Aug 14 13:56:09 <NuttyBunny> No, "my phone is up to date"
Aug 14 14:01:58 <cat-xeger> Hmm... and going into software management only shows me one version of app catalog...
Aug 14 14:17:01 <pantsoftime> what method do people use to get their cifs shares to show up in user apps? modifying the jail configurations?
Aug 14 17:58:46 <leonkehoe> Evening
Aug 14 17:59:21 <leonkehoe> I Doctored my O2 Palm Pre Plus to 2.1 and everything went swimmingly. However, my GPS doesn't work any more... any ideas?
Aug 14 18:00:42 <RagingMind> leonkehoe, there's a note about that at the bottom of the wiki page
Aug 14 18:01:16 <RagingMind> boils down to all the different methods being turned off by default
Aug 14 18:19:59 <Spanska> LumberJack's changelog doesn't mention if it's been updated to work on the TouchPad. Was it? I have the version I used on my Pre+ and it seems to do nothing on the TouchPad.
Aug 14 18:25:54 <twbbas> Spanska: I've been both successful and unsuccessful in using it on my TP. Though, the times that it wouldn't work, the log didn't show up any other way so that may not be Lumberjack's fault.
Aug 14 18:29:11 <Spanska> Ok, maybe I should just retreive the /var/log/messages file and analyze it myself
Aug 14 18:36:07 <Spanska> works great with WOSQI
Aug 14 18:40:45 <Robi_> anyone successfuly mount an nfs share in webos?
Aug 14 18:44:51 <leonkehoe> RagingMind: And is there a way to rectify it? Re-enable GPS?
Aug 14 18:45:00 <leonkehoe> I'm not sure if I'm willing to sacrifice GPS for webOS 2.1 you see.
Aug 14 18:50:08 <RagingMind> leonkehoe, just go into the location prefs
Aug 14 18:50:37 <RagingMind> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade#GPS
Aug 14 18:55:27 <leonkehoe> Yes, found that, going to try it. I had already enabled everything in there to begin with but there's a few other things to try so I'll give those a go.
Aug 14 18:55:28 <leonkehoe> Thanks.
Aug 14 18:58:26 <RagingMind> my gps works better now than in 1.4 :)
Aug 14 19:03:42 <leonkehoe> All fixed now, thanks RagingMind, and everything seems snappier in 2.1 including getting a GPS fix.
Aug 14 19:04:36 <leonkehoe> It's relieved some of the frustration I was feeling towards HP and webOS. I was just about ready to leave, but this little upgrade might keep me holdin' on for a little longer :-)
Aug 15 00:40:59 <Abyssul> 4 minutes to boot my pre2. How ridiculous
Aug 15 00:47:24 <siestacat> Hi, is there a service manager in preware?
Aug 15 00:47:32 <rwhitby> Abyssul: it's based on the number of large PDK apps you have installed
Aug 15 00:47:33 <siestacat> So that I can kill linphone when it screws up?
Aug 15 00:47:38 <rwhitby> jstop
Aug 15 00:47:47 <siestacat> Thanks
Aug 15 00:50:44 <Abyssul> rwhitby: Yea, I heard that before. That kind've sucks...
Aug 15 00:51:14 <rwhitby> yep
Aug 15 00:51:30 <Abyssul> Must not be on top of HP's priorities
Aug 15 00:51:38 <Abyssul> At least the TP boots faster in comparison
Aug 15 00:53:31 <siestacat> using a new palm account, re-installing things
Aug 15 00:53:48 <siestacat> any way I can officially redownload apps?
Aug 15 01:08:33 <siestacat> rwhitby : what does linphone show up as under jstop?
Aug 15 01:08:42 <siestacat> All I can find are official phone apps running.
Aug 15 01:10:53 <Tibfib> Abyssul, rwhitby: wait really, that affects boot time?
Aug 15 01:11:35 <Tibfib> any evidence? or speculation?
Aug 15 01:11:40 <rwhitby> yep, it does a du -s on all apps
Aug 15 01:11:47 <rwhitby> flash is slow
Aug 15 01:12:04 <Tibfib> hmm
Aug 15 01:12:11 <rwhitby> "PmLog set LunaSysMgr debug" show it happening
Aug 15 01:12:15 * Tibfib might have to delete the pdk apps he doesn't use
Aug 15 01:13:00 <Tibfib> holy cow, app catalog is 40 mb
Aug 15 01:13:45 <Abyssul> Yeah, my Pre2's flash memory writes at 1-3 mb/s compared to the TP's 25-30mb/s
Aug 15 01:17:25 <twbbas> I knew that boot time was affected by # of apps but didn't know it was just PDK apps
Aug 15 01:19:31 <Abyssul> well, PDK apps have the biggest file size
Aug 15 01:19:58 <Abyssul> A single PDK app can be 250mb while SDK apps tend to be 1-5mb
Aug 15 01:21:58 <twbbas> yes
Aug 15 01:22:42 <Tibfib> some of the high image sdk apps are around 20mb
Aug 15 01:22:45 <Tibfib> bad kitty
Aug 15 01:23:50 <Abyssul> True
Aug 15 01:24:04 <twbbas> my SDK app is 120MB
Aug 15 01:24:19 <twbbas> soon to be 80MB with the rest downloadable
Aug 15 01:24:21 <Abyssul> what app is that
Aug 15 01:24:34 <twbbas> a spot-the-difference game that has tons of hi-res photos
Aug 15 01:24:36 <twbbas> lol
Aug 15 01:24:41 <twbbas> still SDK :)
Aug 15 01:24:55 <Abyssul> Well thats a huge exception
Aug 15 01:25:27 <twbbas> Yeah
Aug 15 01:25:32 <rwhitby> it's all apps that have "du -s" done on them at boot, not just PDK
Aug 15 01:25:39 <twbbas> rwhitby: ok
Aug 15 01:25:45 <twbbas> thanks for the clarification
Aug 15 01:26:09 <twbbas> The "app" part of my app is probably only 10-20MB
Aug 15 01:26:14 <twbbas> since I have a lot of small images
Aug 15 01:28:30 <twbbas> ooo Tibfib has that + next to his name. :)
Aug 15 01:29:32 <Tibfib> twbbas: some one made a mistake in judgement
Aug 15 01:30:01 <twbbas> ahaha
Aug 15 01:33:16 <rwhitby> Tibfib has contributed to WebOS Internals apps.
Aug 15 01:33:46 <twbbas> Tibfib: Which ones?
Aug 15 01:33:55 <Tibfib> umm, preware, sometime
Aug 15 01:33:59 <twbbas> (not interrogating... just curious)
Aug 15 01:34:00 <Tibfib> various small things
Aug 15 01:34:03 <twbbas> nice
Aug 15 01:37:28 <Tibfib> "various" might even be a stretch
Aug 15 02:43:12 <easthero_> hi,all . webos novacom driver is not available for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, any suggestion?
Aug 15 02:49:10 <Abyssul> download the 3.0.2 sdk?
Aug 15 02:49:15 <Abyssul> I heard it has Lion support
Aug 15 02:49:55 <Abyssul> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17098&view=next
Aug 15 02:50:46 <ka6sox> why don't you get it from opensource.palm.com?
Aug 15 02:51:15 <ka6sox> just  novacom
Aug 15 02:55:08 <Abyssul> Does that package have Lion support though?
Aug 15 02:57:26 <ka6sox> try the 3.0.2 one I read in Chuqui's blog that works.
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