**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 16 02:59:57 2011 Aug 16 03:03:39 Hello all! I was using TIDE to edit the Ubuntu chroot-wrapper file and something glitched. The file is now empty. How can I get the contents back? I'm trying to figure out the GIT process on the wiki, but it's intentionally vague and I can't puzzle it Aug 16 03:03:39 out. Aug 16 03:41:48 thought for sure I found it...but apparently gitorious is a dead-end for xecutah? :/ Aug 16 03:42:36 git.webos-internals.org? Aug 16 03:45:39 oh.... thank you! Aug 16 03:46:59 hrm, I think I actually found this before on th PC... but the ubuntu-chroot isn't listed Aug 16 04:00:06 flare576, ubuntu-chroot is under build Aug 16 04:06:24 found it! ok... one step closer, thank you so far :D Aug 16 04:13:51 flare576, so how did Tide trash your file Aug 16 04:14:02 i havent heard any other reports of such things Aug 16 04:27:05 PuffTheMagic, no idea, I can't reproduce it Aug 16 04:41:11 I tried git clone down to build/testing and it didn't work... is "build" as deep as you can clone? Aug 16 04:41:15 (I'm new to git) Aug 16 04:42:09 flare576, git clone git://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build.git Aug 16 04:43:59 right, but I didn't want all of build, just a sub-tree. SVN lets you grab what you want, git doesn't seem to. More project-based? Aug 16 04:44:52 awesome, wrapper script is back in business. Aug 16 04:45:07 flare576, all of build is not that big, and you can kill it when done Aug 16 04:45:21 it was too big for /home/root ;) Aug 16 04:46:12 flare576, there is a way to do it, i just dont remember what Aug 16 04:46:43 I'll bet it involves mounting a partition to the home directory Aug 16 04:46:50 I need to learn more about mount Aug 16 04:47:05 flare576, i meant checking out a specific folder from a repo Aug 16 04:47:44 scoutcamper, got it. it's not a big deal, might care later once I'm actually at a PC trying to dev something, I guess. Aug 16 04:57:39 thanks for the help, scoutcamper, see you guys later :) Aug 16 18:51:43 dang webchat cuttin me off Aug 16 18:53:27 yeah I have problems with it all the time Aug 16 20:26:56 Hi, will the 3.0 sdk work with the instructions provided in the wiki for Fedora? Aug 16 20:30:32 sort of, but it has a .deb file that you will need to convert to rpm Aug 16 20:32:17 Well, I am in the process of installing, I guess I will wait until I run into problems. Thank you. Aug 16 20:54:53 hmm Aug 16 20:55:13 * DThought has got a pre- with webos 2.1 installed Aug 16 20:55:23 today it rebooted numerous times Aug 16 20:56:13 i'm now looking at top - "rvice.backup.js" is eating huge amounts of ram Aug 16 22:05:43 Hi Aug 16 22:07:24 DMeister-IT: hiya Aug 16 22:07:29 my Pre- until 28th June doesn't make Palm Backup anymore... how can I solve it? Aug 16 22:11:44 DMeister-IT: go into the "backup" app and tell it to backup? Aug 16 22:32:01 I need to mem boot my pre 2! anyone know where to get the 2.1 image? Aug 16 23:04:57 kill_dano, yeah, the doctor Aug 16 23:26:41 hi... Right now I am on my HP Tiuchpad Aug 16 23:26:59 Touchpad Aug 16 23:27:44 :) Aug 16 23:27:48 and I am installing terminal and it is hanging on installing Aug 16 23:27:58 sdlterminal Aug 16 23:28:07 terminal doesnt work Aug 16 23:28:14 use xecutah/xterm Aug 16 23:28:36 sdlterminal not terminal Aug 16 23:28:48 doesnt work either Aug 16 23:28:56 o ok Aug 16 23:28:59 brb Aug 16 23:29:37 how do I cancel the install? Should I just quit it? Aug 16 23:30:09 close prewae, reboot if necessary Aug 16 23:30:14 ok Aug 16 23:30:28 does terminus work? Aug 16 23:30:49 Guest40393, nope Aug 16 23:30:59 k Aug 16 23:31:11 Guest40393, to get xecutah/xterm you must read and aggree to http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Aug 16 23:32:24 I agree to that Aug 16 23:33:06 and after you get xterm working, you discover the keyboard is missing certain keys :-( Aug 16 23:34:11 linuxjacques: just so i know i'm aware of current issues/etc, what keys are missing that you want? Aug 16 23:34:18 (or do you mean the vkb doesn't have keys like 'esc', etc?) Aug 16 23:34:42 I can not find xterm in Preware Aug 16 23:35:26 Guest40393, re-read that ENTIRE wiki page Aug 16 23:35:27 can you link me to a download? Aug 16 23:35:31 dtzWill: yeah, ctrl, esc, maybe | (not sure about that one) Aug 16 23:36:22 dtzWill, ctrl and esc, same as linuxjacques Aug 16 23:36:46 scoutcamper, linuxjacques: kk, and yeah those are known. sorry :/. Aug 16 23:37:24 at the dev event, a guy was asking about making his own keyboard Aug 16 23:37:55 a palm guy asked "what keys are missing" and there was a pause so I said "ctrl, esc, ..." Aug 16 23:38:02 dtzWill, no prob, still the best thing about the TP, srry oil and PuffTheMagic, enyo wirc doesnt play nice with my ssl custom port server yet, so that title goes to xserver Aug 16 23:38:17 the palm guys kinda dismissively said "we do some of those now" and went on Aug 16 23:38:30 s/s// Aug 16 23:38:31 linuxjacques meant: the palm guy kinda dismissively said "we do some of those now" and went on Aug 16 23:39:23 so who knows, maybe in an upcoming update Aug 16 23:39:35 won't help the BT KB tho :-\ Aug 16 23:39:44 "in the comming decades" Aug 16 23:39:57 yeah :-( Aug 16 23:40:21 thanks got it Aug 16 23:41:27 scoutcamper, wtf r u talking about Aug 16 23:41:44 anyway to add the missing keys? I am going to need the esc key and probably control Aug 16 23:42:08 scoutcamper, you building it your self? Aug 16 23:42:18 PuffTheMagic, of course Aug 16 23:42:34 cause ka6sox tested it with znc and SSL Aug 16 23:42:36 and it worked fine Aug 16 23:42:42 orly Aug 16 23:42:50 u prob didnt build it will SSL Aug 16 23:43:18 oh enyo-wirc is a go?! Aug 16 23:43:24 PuffTheMagic: \o/ :D Aug 16 23:43:35 its more go than the mojo version and we are 2% done with it Aug 16 23:43:51 errr and oil :D too, idk who to thank. i just thought PuffTheMagic was the one pushing that enyo prototype before Aug 16 23:43:57 PuffTheMagic: nice! :D Aug 16 23:44:03 it did Aug 16 23:44:12 that was my first half ass enyo attempt Aug 16 23:44:17 before i knew shit Aug 16 23:44:24 PuffTheMagic: is it usable as-is? (no worries at /all/ if not, I'm just wondering if it's worth checking out ATM from a non-dev perspective?) Aug 16 23:44:30 took a break from it to work on mendeley and tide Aug 16 23:44:42 then oil felt some pressure to do some slick enyo Aug 16 23:44:51 so he started up on wirc-enyo for real Aug 16 23:44:59 and i have since switched to working on that with him Aug 16 23:45:13 dtzWill, yes its highly usable right now Aug 16 23:45:18 if u only talk in chans Aug 16 23:45:22 no PMs yet Aug 16 23:45:24 no DCC Aug 16 23:45:33 most of the prefs arent implemented Aug 16 23:45:39 manual mode only Aug 16 23:45:42 but u can connect to bouncers over SSL Aug 16 23:45:51 and it will open all your channels for you Aug 16 23:46:01 scoutcamper, manual mode? Aug 16 23:47:04 nvm Aug 16 23:47:27 scoutcamper, export DEVICE=1 Aug 16 23:47:30 export SSL=1 Aug 16 23:47:30 make Aug 16 23:47:43 or Aug 16 23:47:46 do make deviuce Aug 16 23:47:48 make device Aug 16 23:48:39 I am unable to start xterm via xecutah Aug 16 23:49:17 I can start servers but not xterm Aug 16 23:49:28 xserver Aug 16 23:51:06 PuffTheMagic: oh, nice! that's all very good Aug 16 23:51:24 haven't jumped onto the bouncer deal, but effectively using that (and integration with wirc on TP!) would be great Aug 16 23:51:34 (for now screen+irssi keep me happy, shrug) Aug 16 23:51:54 Guest40393: you started xserver first, then started xterm? Aug 16 23:52:11 (j/w, why don't we just have xterm force-start an xserver?) Aug 16 23:52:28 (i think answer is "xecutah does a simple thing well", or so?) Aug 16 23:52:31 (for now) Aug 16 23:53:09 JVM got it. Good bye Aug 16 23:53:13 if we had logic to check if there was already an xserver started, it could start one if none running Aug 16 23:53:13 nvm Aug 16 23:53:29 dtzWill, u need to get with the times and use a bouncer Aug 16 23:53:54 dtzWill: highfive, I'm using irssi and screen as well Aug 16 23:54:51 you also need to jump forward ~10 years Aug 16 23:55:53 bbl Aug 16 23:56:25 setting up a bouncer is on my ever-growing list of Things To Do Aug 16 23:56:55 it takes like all of 5 min Aug 16 23:57:38 that's 5 minutes I can't spend on irc wasting time Aug 16 23:59:00 summatusmentis, you could talk to me about not having time to do, or just do it in that same amount of time Aug 16 23:59:18 :) yeah yeah, I know Aug 17 00:11:52 summatusmentis: o/ :) Aug 17 00:13:11 PuffTheMagic: i set up a number of the popular bouncers (znc/some others) and :/ idk wasn't a fan Aug 17 00:13:24 the usage is just fundamnetally different, and I haven't been able to push myself over that :) Aug 17 00:13:31 but also on my TODO list :) Aug 17 00:13:35 dtzWill, there is no difference Aug 17 00:13:46 you connect and you get your backlog Aug 17 00:13:52 and then u use it like normal Aug 17 00:46:55 If any one is interested I figured out away to stream my music using VLC to any WebOS device. Aug 17 00:47:55 elpollodiablo1, you should make a wiki page about it Aug 17 00:48:30 I will once I test out to see if I can make it stream my videos as well Aug 17 00:49:04 :D Aug 17 02:15:15 anyone aware of a patch that will launch the and play a .mp4 video when you browse to it in the webbrowser? Aug 17 02:28:40 elpollodiablo1: I thought the video player played mp4 Aug 17 02:28:47 ? Aug 17 02:29:31 it does that is why I am surprised it doesn launch when I point the browser to a url for a .mp4 video Aug 17 02:31:55 I know the .mp4 file is the correct format for the TP because I have uploaded it to my TP and it plays. just not sure why the TP doesnt launch the media player when I browse to the url of it. Aug 17 02:49:16 hmmm Aug 17 02:49:32 me love wirc Aug 17 02:56:51 dtzWill: you can get a bouncer functionality out of irssi with its proxy stuff Aug 17 02:58:17 then you can share that irssi with your devices **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 17 02:59:57 2011