**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 31 02:59:57 2011 Aug 31 03:06:49 dtzwill: HAHA, i just read http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Xecutah, I would fall into the first sentence... way over my head. Guess i need to do more learning before trying to get ChromeOS running. Aug 31 03:07:14 what kernel is everyone using? Aug 31 03:07:27 Kaerey: what do you need xecutah for? Aug 31 03:07:43 xecutah just launches a 'xecutah.sh' script from a set of whitelisted applications (if they exist) Aug 31 03:07:46 isn't that how I would get it to run inside xserver? Aug 31 03:08:05 you can do 99% of what you want without xeuctha, and xecutah is jsut the shiny polish around 'run this script' button goodness Aug 31 03:08:13 *99% of your dev work Aug 31 03:08:52 bbl Aug 31 03:09:09 thanks, i'll keep learning then. Aug 31 03:09:46 why would i be getting pythin errors when i run make package? Aug 31 03:11:16 rwhitby: which of these 3 should I link against? ./toolchain/i686-unknown-linux-gnu/build/i686-unknown-linux-gnu/i686-unknown-linux-gnu/sys-root/usr/include/linux/fuse.h ./toolchain/cs07q3armel/build/arm-2007q3/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc/usr/include/linux/fuse.h ./toolchain/cs09q1armel/build/arm-2009q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc/usr/include/linux/fuse.h Aug 31 03:12:52 my friends touchpad shows core 2 as n/a in govnah on all kernels. any ideas? Aug 31 03:13:26 Lolwut: dtzWill ^ Aug 31 03:14:06 pezman726: patch looked good - haven't applied it yet Aug 31 03:16:57 M25: there should be a STAGING_DIR variable or something like that) which you can use Aug 31 03:17:07 damn, where is xserv deployed to again? Aug 31 03:17:15 M25: it should be set in support/cross-compile.mk Aug 31 03:17:15 rwhitby: I'm already using that Aug 31 03:17:15 my brain sucks Aug 31 03:17:55 * cyclic needs locate Aug 31 03:18:01 M25: ah, I see, you need a TOOLCHAIN_INC_* or something Aug 31 03:18:24 rwhitby: I need SSHFS's configure script to see fuse.h Aug 31 03:18:43 I can pass it CFLAGS, LDFLAGS, and LIBS Aug 31 03:18:50 M25: yeah, so we need a makefile variable which points to the right place for you to pass to CFLAGS Aug 31 03:18:59 right, I'm making one Aug 31 03:19:10 which one of those three fuse.h files should I use? Aug 31 03:19:33 but it should be a common variable in cross-compile.mk for any package to use to get to the toolchain sys root include dir Aug 31 03:19:50 there is one, I think i'm using it wrong, one sec Aug 31 03:20:35 M25: you would potentially use the first and second (for emulator and device) or the third if compiling a kernel module for webOS 2.x or later Aug 31 03:20:52 one sec, let me pastebin what I've got Aug 31 03:21:55 M25: sorry, gotta go to anniversary lunch Aug 31 03:21:57 * rwhitby bbl Aug 31 03:21:58 some of it's quite hacky, http://pastebin.com/4wNkJZun Aug 31 03:22:48 rwhitby: ^ Aug 31 03:24:08 whoops, that should be PKG_CONFIG_PATH in there Aug 31 03:26:02 the toolchain_dir variable directs to a bin folder, not an include folder Aug 31 03:26:35 thats weird Aug 31 03:26:38 SSH isnt being nice Aug 31 03:26:39 :/ Aug 31 03:27:06 there is no toolchain include directory in any of the support makefiles Aug 31 03:29:10 M25, thats because we use a pre-defined toolchain that we know works. Aug 31 03:31:30 what's the quickest way to get sftp running? Aug 31 03:32:17 ^ Aug 31 03:32:24 Mine isnt working so nicely with me lol Aug 31 03:33:39 so I got disconnected at some point Aug 31 03:33:42 what's the last thing you got? Aug 31 03:34:15 rwhitby: ^ Aug 31 03:34:42 m25: he went to anniversary lunch he said Aug 31 03:34:56 what the heck timezone is he in? Aug 31 03:35:08 Australia Aug 31 03:35:12 oh... Aug 31 03:35:19 well this'll be wonderful trying to get in contact then Aug 31 03:35:28 I'm east coast USA Aug 31 03:36:30 well, thanks for letting me know, tell him I'll be back tomorrow, around his breakfast time Aug 31 03:36:44 anyone know the time and temp settings for Soft Boiled eggs in a sous vide machine? Aug 31 03:37:00 no, but that sounds delicious Aug 31 03:37:23 Oh found it. it was under "chicken" in the Sous Vide App Aug 31 03:37:29 I was looking for "eggs" Aug 31 03:37:49 I want a sous vide machine Aug 31 03:38:14 sous vide supreme demi is a great deal Aug 31 03:38:25 I like fedora more Aug 31 03:38:31 less than an ebayed touchpad! Aug 31 03:58:36 Does X server support OpenGL? Aug 31 04:24:54 conradev: no, nor does it support hardware accel'd rendering of any kind Aug 31 04:25:09 K Aug 31 04:38:59 ~time Aug 31 04:38:59 You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2011.08.31 4:34:46 GMT) Aug 31 04:47:28 hi all - i'm looking for a way to install the novacom driver on Fedora linux. Aug 31 04:47:33 I can only find a deb package Aug 31 05:08:33 you could try using alien to create an rpm Aug 31 05:21:45 dwc-: thanks - i have found this page: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/Palm/novacom; /opt/Palm/novacom/novacomd >> /var/log/novacomd 2>&1 & Aug 31 05:21:49 ooops Aug 31 05:21:58 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/MojoSDK_on_Fedora_11#Installing_the_Mojo_SDK_on_Fedora Aug 31 05:44:01 hello good mornign Aug 31 05:47:12 is it psosible to start synergy in ubuntu autmaoticall that i didn't need a touch or bt keyboard? Aug 31 05:48:46 yes Aug 31 05:49:16 chroot____wrapper.sh is what you want to look at Aug 31 05:49:30 er - just one _ there ; Aug 31 05:49:37 ______ Aug 31 05:49:44 :P Aug 31 05:54:47 ok and there i have to edit it? Aug 31 06:36:24 since the hp bt keyboard seems sold out in most places Aug 31 06:36:38 any rec's on other bt keyboards that are similarly portable and the like? Aug 31 06:39:00 There's a few on NewEgg I thought that were comparable. Aug 31 06:39:23 Apparently the alt and control keys are mapped similarly Aug 31 06:39:54 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823815001 - Kinda pricier, but the nicest of the bunch IMHO Aug 31 06:40:09 get an apple one? :p Aug 31 06:40:28 roadkill: oh wow that's nice Aug 31 06:40:29 hmmm Aug 31 06:40:47 by sold out i meant 'sold out at the $30 i saw them a few weeks ago' Aug 31 06:40:47 lol Aug 31 06:40:53 to be clear Aug 31 06:41:12 WalMart HAD a keyboard for the Acer tablet, nearly identical key layout to the HP one... seems it's sold out, too Aug 31 06:41:33 the one you linked looks damn similar to the hp one Aug 31 06:41:45 I snagged mine from BestBuy a few days ago. Yeah, that one's sold out. Aug 31 06:43:16 Can't get a non-craptacular URL going here Aug 31 06:43:24 but go to bestbuy.com and type in the sku: 3004574 Aug 31 06:43:32 That's the Acer keyboard that WalMart had. Aug 31 06:43:38 For about half the price as Best buy ;/ Aug 31 06:43:56 Looks like it's the same as the NewEgg one Aug 31 06:44:33 Boy. Bluetooth keyboards really went up in price. Aug 31 06:45:05 roadkill: isn't the one you just gave me the sku for /identical/ to the newegg one you linked? Aug 31 06:45:14 same "LC.KBD0A.014" model number Aug 31 06:45:15 Yeah. I said that. I had to confirm it to make sure. Aug 31 06:45:18 oh, i'm sorry. Aug 31 06:45:29 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109237 - Irony, one of the cheaper brand ones is Microsoft. Aug 31 06:46:24 Looks like the iPad and Touchpad market really jacked up the prices of Bluetooth keyboars. I remember them being MUCH cheaper. Aug 31 06:47:06 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823829001 - Not too bad if you don't mind the UK style enter key Aug 31 06:48:34 One of the reasons I got the keyboard was so I could use the arrow keys to scroll up and down long pages without having to have my hands in front of me (makes my arms fall asleep when I'm in bed)... and it doesn't scroll. ;( So the keyboard really is more just for typing. Aug 31 06:48:35 there were a couple of them that nuttybunny was trying to get a group buy on a couple months ago Aug 31 06:48:41 those were (and are) about 20-25 Aug 31 06:49:00 (Doesn't scroll in Browser, I should say.) Aug 31 06:50:53 http://www.dealextreme.com/p/79-key-ultra-slim-portable-bluetooth-wireless-keyboard-2-aaa-900150407 Aug 31 06:50:56 that one, I think it was Aug 31 06:51:12 or a similar variant Aug 31 06:51:31 I believe you had your chocie of mac vs pc labeled modifier keys Aug 31 06:51:44 Huh... a mac knockoff. ;) Aug 31 06:52:29 I've always been annoyed with ordering from overseas though. Just on account of shipping time, risk with customs and no easy way to return or exchange if defective Aug 31 06:52:44 But they ship within the US for that, so it might be worth a try Aug 31 06:54:07 * dragoon looks at mac bluetooth keyboard sitting on the shelf Aug 31 06:54:48 roadkill: yeah i *really* wish someone would put some effort into making patches/etc that make the tp way more keyboard-usable Aug 31 06:55:07 (and tyvm for the links/info!) Aug 31 06:55:46 Normal BT keyboards will work, a lot of the keys are the same, just labelled differently. The center button equiv was Alt on another OS according to someone else who tried, so no risk there. Aug 31 06:56:52 roadkill: where do you want it shipped from? Aug 31 06:57:12 iirc, there was a variant of that that was shipped from 2 other warehouses in different countries Aug 31 06:57:46 http://www.dealextreme.com/p/79-key-ultra-slim-portable-bluetooth-wireless-keyboard-2-aaa-50407 Aug 31 06:57:50 there's the euro one Aug 31 06:57:52 yeah mostly just looking for one meant to be portable like my hp one. works great Aug 31 06:58:24 UPS finally delivered my dock tonight Aug 31 06:58:45 but I've been too busy doing a sw release for work that I haven't gotten to play with it or the hp bt kb Aug 31 07:00:00 ... which apparently officedepot charged me $10 to ship... Aug 31 07:00:01 yikes Aug 31 07:05:27 I still can;t believe how tiny the dock is Aug 31 07:06:20 dwc-: Deal extreme, by default, ships from HK or China... So i tend to avoid ordering from there. too nerve wracking for me without a tracking number to keep hitting F5 on ;) Aug 31 07:07:14 I failed on the OD order... should have either ordered 2 to get free shipping, or found $10 of filler... would have cost me about the same that way, but with $10 of bonus crap! Aug 31 07:08:20 and because it was backordered, I didn't get to get a giftcard for lunch either Aug 31 07:14:05 ouch Aug 31 07:18:17 I'd rather HP have had $10 more for the touchpad and officedepot less :p Aug 31 07:19:00 all in all though, it's still a pretty good price for everything Aug 31 07:20:38 142 for 32gb TP+ream of paper, $8 for an extra charger (that I thought the touchstone would need), ~19 for the bt kb, $50 for the dock Aug 31 07:20:54 $220ish total Aug 31 07:21:21 i almost went for the dock Aug 31 07:21:28 cus my pad wasnt charging Aug 31 07:21:36 but now it works after a day? Aug 31 07:21:42 so no dock and $35 in the pocket! Aug 31 07:22:19 SBTwo... the microUSB plug is a *little* funky and I felt like i was gonna break it the first time I plugged it in... then I found a trick Aug 31 07:22:43 Plug it in at an angle pointing slightly down towards the back of the unit... and then push straight in. It'll click twice. Aug 31 07:22:52 anyone know where i can get docks from in australia? Aug 31 07:23:08 Click once, it looks like it's in, won't charge. That's what the second click is: Actually mating the connection. Aug 31 07:24:25 I find starting to put the plug in with it pointed slightly down as you put it into the MicroUSB jack helps the most. Aug 31 07:27:26 dragoon: I don't know where you can get docks from anywhere right now, actually Aug 31 07:27:32 bugger :( Aug 31 07:27:44 they're out of stock all over the US as far as I can tell too Aug 31 07:27:55 ive found some on ebay Aug 31 07:28:07 but they're quite expensive Aug 31 07:30:01 I'm pretty sure there's a similar enough product that will work on the Touchpad for induction charging Aug 31 07:30:17 The technology is actually pretty dead simple Aug 31 07:30:23 ah ok Aug 31 07:30:29 well, see, I'm actually trying to decide whether I really even need the induction charging Aug 31 07:30:52 or if any old stand would do it for me Aug 31 07:31:03 it'd be cooler if I could charge my pre2 in that touchstone too... Aug 31 07:31:18 It's cute. Might help the life of the microUSB plug. Ultimately? I'd say if you can get one for cheap, get it. Otherwise, don't worry about it. Aug 31 07:31:31 Y cable, and a china display stand, works for me. ;P Aug 31 07:31:35 well, I'm out $50 to have th eone that's here. Aug 31 07:31:46 izza: pics ;) Aug 31 07:31:50 I could probably sell it for at least $40 and recoup all but the shipping Aug 31 07:31:53 Yeah. Izza has the right idea. Use a dongle or splitter cable to help with the port usage Aug 31 07:32:54 I'm actually surprised HP didn't include one, similar to HTC. Aug 31 07:34:52 I really hope there's someone behind the scenes at HP keeping tabs on everything. I'd love to see the results if this was all treated like one massive economics experiment. Aug 31 07:35:18 I just saw the Slashdot post about another run of tablets to be shipped soon Aug 31 07:35:48 I'd think it would be a marketing experiment rather than an economics one... they're certainly 'paying' out enough in the form of losses. Aug 31 07:36:06 They should look into whether or not they can claim fastest selling tablets ;) Aug 31 07:36:55 I gotta say though, it's a sweet config. Haven't touched my Netbook since I got it and I'm well past the "getting bored with a new toy" phase. Aug 31 07:45:05 just received my Pre3, but now I'm unable to connect to it using novaterm... it just says "unable to find device"... dev mode is on, Pre3 was rebooted, novacomd is running on localhost:6968.. what else could I be missing? Aug 31 07:45:59 hey Aug 31 07:46:21 (process:6753): LunaService-CRITICAL **: AppId msg type: 17 Aug 31 07:46:48 I put the app into /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals... Aug 31 07:46:58 and am trying to run it through xserv Aug 31 07:47:16 does the app need to be white listed? Aug 31 07:48:04 I am just trying to test this out Aug 31 07:50:34 anyone know why my f15 kernel is not showing any profiles in govnah? Aug 31 08:11:02 ok, novaterm finds now my Pre3 after updating it from 1.0.55 to 1.0.76... but now WOSQI exits right after I click "No" in the dialog which asks whether to install the novacom stuff or not Aug 31 08:11:08 is there a way to bypass this? Aug 31 08:25:04 does anyone know of a way to reset a seemingly sleeping/dead tablet? Aug 31 08:25:15 like a hardware combo.. hold power down doesn't seem to work Aug 31 08:25:20 hold the home button and the power button and count to 30 Aug 31 08:25:28 ah home and power together let me try Aug 31 08:25:55 that did it thanks Aug 31 08:33:51 no need to bypass novacom dialog in WOSQI anymore, just installed preware via novaterm Aug 31 08:58:38 eliasp: I personally always just palm-install, as I did earlier on my new Pre 3 ;) Aug 31 08:59:38 rwhitby: the problem is: webOS/Preware runs so great, one has to do such installations very rarely, so I don't always remind how I did it the last time ;) Aug 31 09:00:19 now I'm just wondering why XTerm requires now Xecutah? it worked on my Pre- before without it.... Aug 31 09:00:32 and it looks like Xecutah will work only on a TP/webOS 3.x Aug 31 09:00:53 and both other terminal apps seem to be unmaintained/not working anymore Aug 31 09:01:13 eliasp: that is correct Aug 31 09:01:17 or is there another terminal app which I haven't found yet besides Terminus and SDLTerm? Aug 31 09:02:29 Xecutah is it. works on all webOS devices and all webOS versions. Aug 31 09:03:39 oh, it does? was just confused by this message: "Due to webOS security constraints, such applications cannot run directly. The XServer requires webOS 3.0 Developer Beta firmware for correct operation on the TouchPad" Aug 31 09:03:50 but I realize now, it just works on 2.x ;) Aug 31 09:05:38 and one last question: is there a tweak/app/whatever to influence the keyboard layout? I've imported a french (AZERTY) Pre3 to germany (QWERTZ) Aug 31 09:06:05 if there's nothing, I could put hardcoded keycodes into the kernel, but maybe there's an easier way? Aug 31 09:06:17 meta-doctor can fix that Aug 31 09:06:33 rwhitby: greath, thx Aug 31 09:07:43 Hey. I have been unable to active my pre 3 with my usual account - had to create a new one. Have any of you experienced the same? Aug 31 09:09:09 apm__: it worked great here, but after switching from my Pre- to my Pre3, I've noticed the last backup on the palm profile was 2,5 months old... so when I rebooted my Pre- it told me it had to do an reboot as my active device was changed... and even before I could trigger the profile backup again, it just rebooted... so I lost now 2,5m of call history, but everything else was saved&restored by Save&Restore Aug 31 09:09:45 logging into a profile on a new phone will forcibly reset the old phone Aug 31 09:10:11 rwhitby: yes, didn't know that.. I thought one could connect multiple devices to 1 profile Aug 31 09:10:22 rwhitby: but anyways... not bad after all, it was just the call history I lost Aug 31 09:10:25 you can connect multiple touchpads, but only one phone Aug 31 09:10:28 ok Aug 31 09:10:52 Are you also having problem with skype out? Aug 31 09:11:10 there's skype on the pre3? Aug 31 09:11:21 yes Aug 31 09:11:23 yes Aug 31 09:11:32 ui, nice... didn't know that until now ;) Aug 31 09:11:35 let's see Aug 31 09:11:43 i can sync to my skype account, but i cant use skypeout - uknown error Aug 31 09:12:32 and during voice call, people complains about the mic volume Aug 31 09:12:35 apm__: what do you mean by "use skypeout"? Here it works as I expected on the Pre3 Aug 31 09:13:22 skypeout => calling to PSTN Aug 31 09:13:42 using your skype account Aug 31 09:14:03 ok, I'n not using this. only skype to skype Aug 31 09:14:15 and nobody compained about the mic volume? Aug 31 09:14:31 on the 2-3 test call I did until no not Aug 31 09:15:28 what about the app catalgo? i cant get the facebook app, nor grooveshark. is the same for you guys? Aug 31 09:16:16 apm__: just bought the Preware Docu some minutes ago and retrieved a sh**tload of package-reinstalls/updates... so no problem so far Aug 31 09:16:42 eliasp: sweet - did you leave a good review? Aug 31 09:16:53 rwhitby: ay, not yet... will do ;) Aug 31 09:17:03 trying to get it to the top of the paid apps list :) Aug 31 09:17:06 apm__: yep same herer. But facebook was on the device after I started. Came back with the restore Aug 31 09:17:20 rwhitby: I'll help with a 5***** review ;) Aug 31 09:17:25 homebrew above all the commercial outfits :) Aug 31 09:17:58 lol wtf i can't resolve download.java.net :( Aug 31 09:18:07 SERVFAIL Aug 31 09:18:11 rwhitby: I somebody allready on the way to test the patches for the pre3 Aug 31 09:18:23 trying from various machines in the midwest :(. boo Aug 31 09:21:12 dtzWill: works from DE Aug 31 09:21:26 eliasp: bah, okay. well ty. Aug 31 09:21:31 redirects to dlc.sun.com (137.254.16.69) Aug 31 09:24:06 doesn't work for me (west coast) Aug 31 09:24:34 well the ip helps, although doesn't have the file i'm looking for. sigh. anyway, tyvm eliasp :) Aug 31 09:25:05 neither ns13 or ns14.oracle.com appear to be responding for NS zone records for java.net or a/cname/etc for download.java.net. Aug 31 09:26:11 oracle probably turned it into uglyurl.somethingorother.oracle.com by now ;) Aug 31 09:27:24 yuck, can't believe an app by the mormon church is 2# in the non-paid apps :( Aug 31 09:34:41 hmm, can't find the instant messaging plugins anymore and it looks like the precentral forum is down at the moment... does anyone have the link for the IM plugins? Aug 31 09:38:09 forum is online again... ;) Aug 31 09:38:59 eliasp for whioch deivce? Aug 31 09:39:08 because for touchpad the im plugins aren't work Aug 31 09:39:15 Technikfreak: Pre3... not sure if it'll work, but I'll give it a try Aug 31 09:39:54 mh precentral is down? Aug 31 09:40:48 Technikfreak: works again here Aug 31 09:40:59 so than search tehre the lin Aug 31 09:41:00 is there a reason why the IM plugins aren't available via Preware? Aug 31 09:41:10 Technikfreak: yes, already found them Aug 31 09:41:11 its a special ipk file Aug 31 09:41:15 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-homebrew-apps/233983-messaging-plugins-add-more-im-options-your-pre.html Aug 31 09:42:09 NuttyBunny would have to make them compatible with the WIDK to get them in the WebOS Internals feeds Aug 31 09:42:15 Preware feeds could work I think Aug 31 09:42:46 ah, ok... was just wondering as the IM plugins repository is already hosted by webos-internals... http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/messaging-plugins/ Aug 31 11:13:45 mornin' Aug 31 12:24:44 Hi everyone Aug 31 12:26:04 When I start preware I get unable to run comand:/usr/bin/ipkg-o/media/cryptofs/apps update 2>&1....any help out there Aug 31 12:26:27 looking for some help wih installining ubuntu on my touchpad i have everything done up until the point of opening ubuntu 11.04 chroot in xecutah, but when opening it i get a service error (executable): Aug 31 12:27:26 unable to run command: sbin/initctl/ start org.webosinternals.ubuntu-natty-chroot 2>&1 Aug 31 12:59:14 anyone alive in here? Aug 31 13:30:17 Hey eveyone any one around? Aug 31 13:31:11 * cat-xeger is not yet caffinated... try asking your question, whatever it is, and sticking around. Aug 31 13:47:41 looking for some help wih installining ubuntu on my touchpad i have everything done up until the point of opening ubuntu 11.04 chroot in xecutah, but when opening it i get a service error (executable): unable to run command: sbin/initctl/ start org.webosinternals.ubuntu-natty-chroot 2>&1 Aug 31 13:49:05 did you forget to mount your ext3fs partition? Aug 31 13:49:23 i'm thinking you just installed the chroot on the regular file system Aug 31 13:50:28 i checked in nova term and can cd to the ext3fs so i assumed it was mounted Aug 31 13:50:40 type mount and check Aug 31 13:52:05 mount -o remount,rw / && echo "/dev/mapper/store-ext3fs /media/ext3fs ext3 noatime,data=writeback 0 0" >> /etc/fstab Aug 31 13:52:21 only run that if you've determined that it's not already in fstab Aug 31 13:52:52 currently rebootin touchpad.... Aug 31 13:53:49 why reboot? Aug 31 13:54:02 i shut it down earlier Aug 31 13:54:05 ah Aug 31 13:55:47 looking for some help wih installining ubuntu on my touchpad i have everything done up until the point of opening ubuntu 11.04 chroot in xecutah, but when opening it i get a service error (executable): Aug 31 13:56:01 opps stupid clipboard Aug 31 13:59:35 kinda slow on linux programing.....currentley on ubuntu though what am i looking for when i type mount. i cant copy and paste from the novacom Aug 31 14:03:21 "mount" tells you which filesystems are mounted, where they are mounted to, and their type Aug 31 14:03:41 you want to ensure you see an entry mounted on /media/ext3fs Aug 31 14:05:10 i see no entry for /media/ext3fs Aug 31 14:05:54 then " i'm thinking you just installed the chroot on the regular file system" Aug 31 14:06:38 :) Aug 31 14:06:49 so basically you have to reinstall Aug 31 14:06:51 i Aug 31 14:06:58 i'd uninstall the chroot with preware Aug 31 14:07:09 rm -rf /media/ext3fs/whatever-chroot-is-named Aug 31 14:07:26 then run this: mount -o remount,rw / && echo "/dev/mapper/store-ext3fs /media/ext3fs ext3 noatime,data=writeback 0 0" >> /etc/fstab Aug 31 14:07:34 and finally, re-install the chroot Aug 31 14:13:59 so gstreamer in WIDK is in the "nonworking" folder. is there a reason for that? Aug 31 14:19:29 the WIDK wiki article should now work on a vanilla Debian Squeeze (6.0.2) install too Aug 31 14:19:54 i updated the "xar" links for Debian Aug 31 14:20:29 rwhitby: is there a plan to replace xar in the toolchain as it seems to be almost depricated on both Ubunutu and Debian? Aug 31 14:26:11 spoke too soon: make: VBoxManage: Command not found Aug 31 14:26:12 make: *** [rootfs/i686/.unpacked] Error 127 Aug 31 14:27:02 is virutalbox supposed to be installed? Aug 31 14:27:40 didn't see that anywhere in the WIDK wiki Aug 31 14:48:45 Do I have to use "Testing Feeds" for UberKernel to work? Aug 31 14:49:57 on my TouchPad Aug 31 14:51:18 for the WIDK, is the i686 stuff just for the emulator? Aug 31 15:04:25 quiet in here Aug 31 15:12:06 Are the prepare source servers just getting hit hard, or am I just getting connection errors half the time due to some connection issue on my end? Aug 31 15:12:42 *pre-ware TP auto corrects to prepare Aug 31 15:14:09 make sure your feed links are correct Aug 31 15:14:46 Ya they are, they load half the time Aug 31 15:15:26 I'm running the 64GB White model, but that shouldn't make a difference. Aug 31 15:17:07 Sometimes I can get everything to load within a minute, other times I'm waiting 10 just to get a list of errors and nothing, besides what I've already installed, loads. Aug 31 15:18:34 Link2999 the load on the Apache server for preware is basically flat at about 10,000 accesses a second, and it's been there except for a few spikes for a long time Aug 31 15:18:40 nothing odd I can see. Aug 31 15:19:12 That's what I was wondering. So the servers are to blame. Aug 31 15:19:43 I would think at this time in the morning though there wouldn't be to many requests. Aug 31 15:19:57 its not the servers Aug 31 15:19:59 *too Aug 31 15:20:34 let me try to load it again, I'll copy the error message(s) Aug 31 15:21:32 Actually loaded fine that time Aug 31 15:21:43 ism, maybe just some spikes Aug 31 15:21:56 *I don't know Aug 31 15:22:04 Gotta turn off this auto-correct... Aug 31 15:24:05 the servers are -fine- they're cruising. Aug 31 15:26:15 What about Youtube playback? Anyway I can get a 720p fullscreen video to actually play? Aug 31 15:26:32 I can get 720p to play Aug 31 15:26:42 I seem to have trouble even loading a 320p in FS Aug 31 15:26:50 Link2999_ if you use html5 yes. If you use flash, perhaps not. Aug 31 15:27:08 html5 doesnt work for me on TP Aug 31 15:27:12 HTML5 seems to load up the video application Aug 31 15:28:08 Granted Im overclocked, but my 720p videos work on YT Aug 31 15:28:18 I keep getting d/c'd Aug 31 15:28:44 Clear your cache Aug 31 15:29:04 I tried that. Didn't help all too much Aug 31 15:29:14 Problem with your internet? Aug 31 15:29:28 Getting a signal fine Aug 31 15:29:28 What do you mean by disconnect Aug 31 15:29:40 Oh from the chat Aug 31 15:29:48 Something about too many requests Aug 31 15:31:16 Does Advanced Browser have faster load seeds than the default? Aug 31 15:31:29 *speeds Aug 31 15:31:49 Advanced Browser uses the same webviewer as the original browser Aug 31 15:31:57 So essentially its the same Aug 31 15:32:23 That's what I figured, thought I may as well ask though. This Youtube thing is killing me Aug 31 15:32:40 Is the error from the Youtube site or is it a popup from the browser? Aug 31 15:34:20 I just tryed it out again on another video, and I'm getting it fine in 720p >_> I think my TP is messing with me Aug 31 15:34:33 Last night I couldn't watch any 720p videos Aug 31 15:35:05 The loading circle wouldn't stop. Like it was taking foever to buffer. Aug 31 15:35:14 It could be anything Aug 31 15:35:28 Cache, youtube servers, specific videos, your internet connection Aug 31 15:36:37 What about sorting videos & photos? Can't do that yet? Aug 31 15:38:38 Have like 50 unsorted episodes of Adventure Time on my device and besides for folders by season, they aren't sorted at all. Wish I could do it by title. Aug 31 15:38:38 Doesnt seem like it Aug 31 15:38:45 Good show Aug 31 15:39:18 Yup :) Wish C&N didn't cancel Chowder or Flapjack either, but whatcha gonna do. Aug 31 15:39:26 They are probably sorted by the last modified attribute Aug 31 15:40:28 Maybe, if that was the case I could make a quick change to each file in the order I would want them in. Aug 31 15:41:17 Still waiting for another Media Player or an update too Aug 31 15:41:35 Touchplayer or Kalemsoft Media? Aug 31 15:43:49 * rrix has watched fulllength 720p films on touchplayer Aug 31 15:44:10 You gotta be overclocked for 720p MKV files though Aug 31 15:44:25 True Aug 31 15:45:14 hey how do i use novaterm/com to connect to a webOS vbox instance on anotehr machine? Aug 31 15:53:34 thats complicated o.O Aug 31 15:54:11 if its even possible Aug 31 16:30:35 hi have a problem.installing the f15 kernel see but cant deinstall the kernel Aug 31 16:31:20 breware brings a errorlog Aug 31 16:31:36 what kernel did you have on there before? Aug 31 16:32:30 stock from hp.it is my first oc try Aug 31 16:34:57 in the downloadfield i see the kernel.bootanimation too but i can not deinstall the kernel or try another kernel Aug 31 16:35:09 sry for my bad english Aug 31 16:37:27 try to install the "recovery" kernel. Aug 31 16:37:42 that takes you back to a "Stock" kernel" Aug 31 16:38:03 ok i try wait a moment Aug 31 16:38:59 the name is recovry kernel?didnt find this name Aug 31 16:42:00 ah ok find it and reboot Aug 31 17:24:28 hi there..i was wondering if someone could help me to connect to my brand new HP touchpad wireless with putty..i installed openssh but the instructions at webos-internals seem obsolete or meant for webos phones Aug 31 17:37:20 Idk if OpenSSH is compatible with the TP Aug 31 17:37:25 At least I havnt tried at least Aug 31 17:38:46 hmm Aug 31 17:39:32 The steps should be compatible though Aug 31 17:40:53 YeahRight_ http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH Aug 31 17:51:49 http://twitter.com/#!/adora Aug 31 17:52:20 Framework: ? (link re-sent in error?) Aug 31 17:55:58 my companies office uses wpa2 with peap Aug 31 17:56:11 how can I connect my touchpad Aug 31 17:58:53 What's the best resolution when preware shows a patch update but it can't be applied since the old patch cannot be reversed(presumably due to other patches installed after it)? Aug 31 18:02:30 so... manual resolution it is then huh :) Aug 31 18:18:34 Lazar_Dobrescu, force uninstall Aug 31 18:18:59 or try using QI. I've had luck with QI that Preware has trouble on. Idk why... Aug 31 18:19:15 force uninstall won't just delay the problem till the installation of the upgrade though? Aug 31 18:19:29 I mean it doesnt uninstall because the patch can't be reversed Aug 31 18:21:19 You could manually fix it Aug 31 18:21:36 and then when you uninstall it, PReware will just be like "Oh... this patch was already uninstalled" Aug 31 18:22:15 but that means I'll remove code from another patch... think there's just no easy way out... I tried finding which other patch created that code but it's unclear still Aug 31 18:22:43 so nobody uses wpa2 with peap and mschapv2? Aug 31 18:22:46 Not replace the whole file, just undoing the modifications that the patch made Aug 31 18:22:50 d0netsTP, not here Aug 31 18:24:21 At least we dont use quilt anymore... Aug 31 18:24:38 look around in the directory Aug 31 18:24:46 iirc, it marks which packages have modified the files Aug 31 18:25:25 You could always use EPR Aug 31 18:26:57 oh. maybe not. maybe it only saves the last one Aug 31 18:27:00 capture-assistant.js.webosinternals.orig Aug 31 18:28:07 grep filename-with-conflict media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.patches*/*patch Aug 31 18:28:20 yeah I guess that will find every culprit Aug 31 18:29:12