**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 02:59:57 2011
Sep 30 03:01:39 <rrix> So I have one of those android dev kits. it is a serial device to webos. What do I do with it?
Sep 30 03:01:59 <rrix> err, android accessory dev kits. It's an arduino with USB host
Sep 30 03:03:14 <destinal_> rrix:  it's bluetooth?
Sep 30 03:03:24 <rrix> i don't think it has bluetooth
Sep 30 03:03:25 <rrix> it's USB
Sep 30 03:03:51 <rrix> it's basically an Arduino Mega with a USB host and a custom input shield
Sep 30 03:04:07 <destinal_> ahhhh
Sep 30 03:04:48 <destinal_> but you actually got the usb serial to show up in webos?
Sep 30 03:04:52 <rrix> Yup
Sep 30 03:05:10 <rrix> creates an ACM device that I can theoretically communicate with from PDK code
Sep 30 03:05:13 <destinal_> I've gotta get one of these
Sep 30 03:05:22 <rrix> They're kind expensive
Sep 30 03:05:29 <rrix> We got this one for free at Makerfaire
Sep 30 03:05:31 <destinal_> rrix: what kernel are you using?
Sep 30 03:05:45 <rrix> Just the stock kernel
Sep 30 03:05:58 <destinal_> I didn't realize they had usb serial compiled in, nice.
Sep 30 03:06:05 <rrix> Me neither :)
Sep 30 03:06:16 <NuttyBunny> webos hasn't
Sep 30 03:06:28 <NuttyBunny> just serial support, you have to compile your modules
Sep 30 03:06:40 <destinal_> rrix: are you sure you're seeing the ADK thing and not another ACM?
Sep 30 03:06:43 <rrix> It created a serial device when I attached it
Sep 30 03:06:51 * rrix looks again
Sep 30 03:06:57 <destinal_> NuttyBunny: actually the comm board may be ACM over USB
Sep 30 03:07:05 <destinal_> so that would explain the presence of the driver
Sep 30 03:07:40 <rrix> oh damnit
Sep 30 03:07:51 <rrix> There's a bunch of other acm crap in here though :\
Sep 30 03:08:10 <destinal_> rrix: still, I'd try plugging / unplugging and see if one of them changes
Sep 30 03:08:21 <rrix> it just reset the comm board, afaict
Sep 30 03:08:44 <rrix> mmc0: card one removed
Sep 30 03:09:11 <rrix> I have two ACM devices
Sep 30 03:09:17 * rrix is tempted to load something on to this
Sep 30 03:09:48 <rrix> wait
Sep 30 03:09:50 <destinal_> rrix: sounds promising
Sep 30 03:09:52 <rrix> the adk is off
Sep 30 03:09:56 <rrix> >.<
Sep 30 03:09:58 <destinal_> rrix: lol
Sep 30 03:10:08 <destinal_> rrix: at worst it may require a kernel module
Sep 30 03:10:14 <rrix> yar
Sep 30 03:10:26 <rrix> it at least charges the phone ;P
Sep 30 03:10:47 <destinal_> PDK apps would be cool, and so would be plugins or services
Sep 30 03:11:10 <destinal_> we could make a services api to communcate via a buffer of some kind
Sep 30 03:11:10 <NuttyBunny> hehehe... told ya
Sep 30 03:11:17 <rrix> ah well
Sep 30 03:11:44 <NuttyBunny> I thought my usb to serial was communicating via ttyS0, but no, I needed to load the pl2303 driver to make it show ttyUSB0
Sep 30 03:11:45 <rrix> it is doing something though, it's exposing an mmc card
Sep 30 03:12:27 <destinal_> NuttyBunny: this was on another device that was the usb host?
Sep 30 03:12:27 <wrea> I got my cables to do host mode today
Sep 30 03:13:11 * rrix shrugs and goes back to crossing wires
Sep 30 03:13:11 <NuttyBunny> destinal_: no, on the touchpad
Sep 30 03:44:02 <wrea> rwhitby, turns out my driver needs mac80211 compiled in the kernel
Sep 30 03:45:51 <rwhitby> rrix: my understanding of ADK is that it needs a specific USB device driver on the device (which in this case is the webOS device)
Sep 30 03:53:01 <rrix> rwhitby: ya, acm_usb
Sep 30 03:54:00 <rwhitby> the ADK board expects to be the host and it expects the phone to be the device (slave)
Sep 30 04:13:36 <roy1> hello all, does anyone have the PN token value of a EU veer?  i am trying to change the tokens of my att veer to make it an EU veer.  I have got the rest of the information but the PN number.  any help is deeply appreciated.  thanks!
Sep 30 04:33:30 <rwhitby> roy1: you're going to go from 2.1.2 back to 2.1.1 ?
Sep 30 04:36:54 <roy1> hello, rod, how are you?  yes.  i intend to go from 2.1.2 to 2.1.1.
Sep 30 04:37:23 <roy1> actually, my purpose is to remove all the att bloatware.
Sep 30 04:39:03 <M25> would the wonderful individual who's got a wired USB keyboard working with the touchpad kindly inform me how the hell he pulled that off?
Sep 30 04:39:04 <roy1> rwhitby: i was going to modify the xml file with the EU veer tokens to generate a doctor using meta doctor.  i was looking at your pre 3 impersonation guide.
Sep 30 04:40:26 <rwhitby> roy1: note that you can use CUSTOM_MODEL_LIST and CUSTOM_CARRIER_LIST to apply the doctor without changing tokens
Sep 30 04:40:36 <rwhitby> not sure how the app catalog will handle that though
Sep 30 04:41:22 <roy1> rwhitby:  honestly, i don't know how to use that part of the makefile so i'd rather go the safer route, which the impersonation method looks like.
Sep 30 04:42:08 <rwhitby> ok. I doubt that the PN token is actually used by anything. I don't know the value for an EU Veer.
Sep 30 04:42:15 <roy1> rwhitby:  i am no coder or geek so i am utterly dependent on your expertise that i read on precentral and webos internals.
Sep 30 04:42:53 <roy1> rwhitby:  that's ok.  perhaps i'll try to generate a modified xml without the PN value and see what happens.
Sep 30 04:43:27 <roy1> rwhitby:  thanks all the same.  perhaps someone with an EU veer may like to volunteer the PN value.
Sep 30 04:43:44 <M25> rwhitby: do you know who got USB host support working on the touchpad?
Sep 30 04:44:15 <roy1> rwhitby:  thanks again!  have a good day!  i'm off to lunch.
Sep 30 04:45:03 <rwhitby> M25: have you read the PreCentral thread on it?
Sep 30 04:45:53 <M25_> rwhitby: my internet crapped out, did you mention who got the USB host support working?
Sep 30 04:46:48 <rwhitby> M25: no, I pointed you to the PreCentral thread on it
Sep 30 05:36:41 <hmmmm> is there a way to lock the screen into a specific orientation temporarily?
Sep 30 05:48:30 <rwhitby> depends which webOS device and webOS version you are referring to
Sep 30 05:48:43 <Xuzz> Pre 3 and 2.2.0? :\
Sep 30 05:49:53 <hmmmm> was that directed to me?
Sep 30 05:50:01 <hmmmm> webos 3.0.1, touchpad
Sep 30 05:51:28 <rwhitby> device menu has a rotation lock in it
Sep 30 05:51:37 <rwhitby> why are you running 3.0.1, BTW.
Sep 30 05:51:46 <Exiles> upgrade
Sep 30 05:51:51 <rwhitby> upgrade to 3.0.2 immediately
Sep 30 05:52:08 <hmmmm> 3.0.2 then
Sep 30 05:52:09 <hmmmm> rather
Sep 30 05:52:20 <hmmmm> i thought the current was 3.0.1
Sep 30 06:01:29 <hmmmm> alright another dumb question but
Sep 30 06:01:32 <hmmmm> how do i delete users
Sep 30 06:01:40 <hmmmm> there's no userdel or pw
Sep 30 06:02:05 <dwc-> pretend you're on an old system and edit the appropriate files in /etc?
Sep 30 06:02:14 <hmmmm> do i really edit passwd like that?
Sep 30 06:02:18 <hmmmm> just like that?!?
Sep 30 06:03:27 <dwc-> well, how did you add the user?
Sep 30 06:03:35 <hmmmm> adduser
Sep 30 06:03:39 <dwc-> oh
Sep 30 06:03:48 <hmmmm> funny
Sep 30 06:03:51 <hmmmm> adduser but no userdel
Sep 30 06:04:07 <dwc-> root@TouchPad:/var/home/root# adduser
Sep 30 06:04:07 <dwc-> BusyBox v1.17.3 () multi-call binary.
Sep 30 06:04:11 <dwc-> yay... busybox.........
Sep 30 06:04:23 <hmmmm> yeah, this is a really modified busybox distro or something
Sep 30 06:04:42 <dwc-> busybox isn't much of a distro, imo... it's a multifunction binary
Sep 30 06:05:25 <dwc-> I have no idea what busybox's adduser does
Sep 30 06:05:35 <dwc-> you could always peek at the src I guess to see what it does
Sep 30 06:09:33 <hmmmm> hmmmmmmmm
Sep 30 06:09:37 <hmmmm> where is the dropbear config file?
Sep 30 06:09:50 <hmmmm> not in /opt/etc/dropbear
Sep 30 06:16:14 <hmmmm> argh
Sep 30 06:16:27 <hmmmm> is there any way to lock out the IP after a number of unsuccessful logons?
Sep 30 06:19:25 <dtzWill> hmmmm: fail2ban? dunno if it (or w/e it needs) is in optware
Sep 30 06:19:46 <dtzWill> but i'd imagine a sufficiently motivated person could install it without too much concern
Sep 30 06:19:57 <dtzWill> although since i think by default we require an ssh key
Sep 30 06:20:05 <dtzWill> you're probably okay? but that's of course not my call
Sep 30 06:25:57 <hmmmm> fail2ban isn't in there
Sep 30 06:26:14 <hmmmm> bahh- nevermind, i fixed up the config file and i've got openssh working like it's supposed to
Sep 30 06:26:26 <hmmmm> no more authentication error crap
Sep 30 06:27:06 <hmmmm> alright, now that i have ssh working, i can get some real work done on here
Sep 30 06:28:08 <hmmmm> first order of business is to get evince running in xecutah so i can read .djvu files so i don't have to lug the 17" laptop around at school
Sep 30 06:28:25 <hmmmm> some of my books are djvu :(
Sep 30 06:41:35 <nightburn> i am " " close to pulling the trigger on a pre3, i can't believe how cheap they're getting
Sep 30 07:42:27 <wrea> hmm, insufficient bus power
Sep 30 08:59:50 <RichT23> HooT
Sep 30 09:50:13 <copystring1> is webos-internals.org down?
Sep 30 09:51:43 <Log1x> looks like it
Sep 30 09:51:57 <copystring1> boo
Sep 30 10:01:09 <copystring1> preware feeds seem to be down as well
Sep 30 10:05:32 <hucksy> webos-interals.org works fine for me
Sep 30 10:05:47 <hucksy> routing problem?
Sep 30 10:07:00 <copystring1> possibly
Sep 30 10:09:06 <thor968> No, I can't access it, server timeout on webos-internals.org.
Sep 30 10:09:36 <hucksy> ;) thats doesnt mean there is no routing problem
Sep 30 10:09:48 <hucksy> -s
Sep 30 10:15:29 <lonequid> seems like part of the web is down i can't get to msnbc either
Sep 30 10:18:46 <copystring1> there was a net split earlier in here. sounds like there's something going wrong
Sep 30 10:19:07 <RichT23> It would apprear to be DNS related
Sep 30 10:20:02 <RichT23> Well i had a cached IP on one of my servers...
Sep 30 10:20:11 <RichT23> looks liek the IP is gone too
Sep 30 10:23:04 <RichT23> Oh looks like the whole cnet is down...
Sep 30 10:23:11 <RichT23> www.kernel.org is missing too
Sep 30 10:23:30 <lonequid> i can get cnet but not kernel.org
Sep 30 10:24:16 <lonequid> 7.14% packet loss from SBC->level3 according to the "internet health report"
Sep 30 10:24:22 <lonequid> "critical" levels are 4%
Sep 30 10:24:29 <hucksy> outch
Sep 30 10:26:40 <RichT23> Oh maybe the whole of AS3701 too
Sep 30 10:27:26 <RichT23> as www.nero.net is not there ether
Sep 30 10:28:01 <lonequid> THEYRE ATTACKING OUR INTERNETS!!!!!!!
Sep 30 10:28:10 <hucksy> :D
Sep 30 10:29:33 <RichT23> www.lane.edu is down too and they are in the same AS
Sep 30 10:30:45 <hucksy> nero.net is reachable (germany), webos-internals too, kernel.org not
Sep 30 10:31:38 <RichT23> i can not get to them from here
Sep 30 10:31:50 <hucksy> US?
Sep 30 10:32:02 <RichT23> UK
Sep 30 10:32:05 <hucksy> hmkay
Sep 30 10:32:09 <RichT23> humm but i can from home...
Sep 30 10:32:10 <dasarne> Hi, can some one help me installing ffplayer? The install-process does not finish.
Sep 30 10:32:42 <RichT23> id guess ther eis some fun routing problem
Sep 30 10:37:39 <RichT23> funny that that happens and i here people in the background at $work talking about one of our blade switches going down
Sep 30 10:44:32 <lonequid> seems fixed
Sep 30 10:49:15 <thor968> Yepp, works again - ufff, everything is impossible without webos-internals ...
Sep 30 11:08:31 <dwc-> kernel.org has been down
Sep 30 11:10:11 <lonequid> it was unreachable before, now it's showing the "maintenance" page
Sep 30 13:10:55 <Sedorox> Swweeett, my Pre3 arrived this morning :D
Sep 30 13:35:20 <technikfreak45> hi Soruk so now i would try t install your vnc
Sep 30 13:35:49 <technikfreak45> just donwload the package and isntall via quick install and pre configure the tp as
Sep 30 13:36:43 <jelatta> hmmmm: arrow keys http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/299077-using-ctrl-esc-keys-tp-virtual-keyboard-works-2.html
Sep 30 14:01:03 <Soruk_M> Hi technikfreak
Sep 30 14:14:45 <technikfreak45> Hi Soruk_M i can"t gfet registered at the precentral at the moment
Sep 30 14:15:02 <technikfreak45> is it possible to get your software also from your webserver like in the posts the scripts for adding the lines?
Sep 30 14:17:05 <Soruk_M> Sure, http://www.eridani.co.uk/webos/
Sep 30 14:17:30 <Soruk_M> Get version 0.2.3
Sep 30 14:17:50 <technikfreak45> cool and than i coudl just add it to quck install and run the other script in xterm to add vnc
Sep 30 14:17:54 <technikfreak45> very good
Sep 30 14:19:01 <Soruk_M> Yep. You may need to restart Luna or reboot your TP for it to appear in Xecutah.
Sep 30 14:19:24 <technikfreak45> thats so cool
Sep 30 14:21:43 <Soruk_M> Once Xecutah knows about TigerVNC out of the box I'll be deleting that script as it defeats the whitelisted apps intention (and I don't want to annoy them too much ^_^)
Sep 30 14:24:08 <technikfreak45> ok first i have to install bash
Sep 30 14:24:40 <Soruk_M> Yes, it's in preware as Bourne Again Shell.
Sep 30 14:25:04 <technikfreak45> yep done
Sep 30 14:25:47 <technikfreak45> ok tp is now restarting
Sep 30 14:25:54 <technikfreak45> and it is fully compatible with ultra vnc?
Sep 30 14:26:57 <Soruk_M> In that it'll connect, yes. It won't support uvnc specific stuff like file transfer.
Sep 30 14:28:25 <technikfreak45> ah ok no prob
Sep 30 14:28:33 <technikfreak45> and display scaling yes or
Sep 30 14:28:40 <technikfreak45> did i need for that the tiger vn server
Sep 30 14:29:17 <Soruk_M> Display scaling is client end, not server end, so no.
Sep 30 14:29:52 <technikfreak45> and is it psosible to let dissaper the keybaord completly
Sep 30 14:29:53 <technikfreak45> or
Sep 30 14:30:44 <Soruk_M> Do youhave the bluetooth keyboard?
Sep 30 14:31:48 <technikfreak45> mh no
Sep 30 14:32:00 <technikfreak45> but it works perfeclty so
Sep 30 14:32:08 <technikfreak45> thansk a lot for your good work
Sep 30 14:32:14 <Soruk_M> okie. Just set the keyboard size to XS
Sep 30 14:32:22 <Soruk_M> thank you ^_^
Sep 30 14:32:33 <technikfreak45> it is already
Sep 30 14:32:50 <technikfreak45> now i am typing from tp coooool
Sep 30 14:33:52 <Soruk_M> that case, you're all set! to get the pop-up menu press and hold R then type the (R) registered symbol.
Sep 30 14:35:31 <technikfreak45> what is that registered
Sep 30 14:35:38 <technikfreak45> so that you are now a new user or
Sep 30 14:36:38 <Soruk_M> No. I've used the R-in-a-circle character to bring up TigerVNC's menu.
Sep 30 14:37:36 <technikfreak45> ah i could use there than elft and right click
Sep 30 14:37:37 <technikfreak45> clever
Sep 30 14:37:51 <Soruk_M> Exactly ^_^
Sep 30 14:43:03 <technikfreak45> ok so now stuff is over i could go running in the forst as the sun is shining nice
Sep 30 15:40:17 <copystring1> is it possible to change a threatname on precentral? looks like i can change the topic but the old name still appears in the threatlist. only in the threat it's appearing correct
Sep 30 15:51:22 <lonequid> who are you threatening?
Sep 30 16:36:47 <Guest90070> wat
Sep 30 16:45:58 <EricBlade> hmm. i have an app that needs to make a service call at exit, to restore something. however, it seems that at the cleanup stage, the service calls are no longer available .. any thoughts on how one might do that? (enyo)
Sep 30 17:34:59 <resistivecorpse> does anyone know how to change file associations on the touchpad?
Sep 30 17:42:20 <done> good afternoon to all, i have question i cannot find the patch for hulu on preware
Sep 30 17:42:51 <done> can antone direct me ?
Sep 30 17:44:05 <ka6sox> Soruk, ping?
Sep 30 18:16:12 <Soruk> Pong.
Sep 30 18:29:47 <Soruk> @ka6sox Need to go offline for the evening - email me. Probably more reliable as we seem to keep passing like ships in the night.
Sep 30 18:48:07 <ka6sox> Soruk_offline, right will do
Sep 30 19:52:51 <kill_dano> does the At&t pre 3 have skype?
Sep 30 19:58:35 <wrea> afaik it is available in the app catalog
Sep 30 20:06:26 <wrea> Getting a weird error when modprobing cfg80211
Sep 30 20:06:29 <wrea> : No such file or directoryb/modules/2.6.35-palm-tenderloin/kernel/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko
Sep 30 20:06:42 <dwc-> do you have that kernel module?
Sep 30 20:06:59 <wrea> Yup
Sep 30 20:07:10 <dwc-> what happens if you modprobe cfg80211
Sep 30 20:07:17 <dwc-> err, sorry
Sep 30 20:07:20 <dwc-> insmod
Sep 30 20:08:33 <wrea> That worked. lsmod shows it loaded now
Sep 30 20:09:09 <dwc-> wonder if you needed to depmod -ae or something
Sep 30 20:10:35 <wrea> Now I'm running into problems with mac80211. Unknown symbols
Sep 30 20:12:53 <directhex> unknown symbols usually means you used insmod without loading a dep, or someone fucked up and your kernel modules aren't for your running kernel
Sep 30 20:13:02 <directhex> both are Bad(tm)
Sep 30 20:31:24 <wrea> mac80211 is all good now
Sep 30 20:50:47 <dwc-> even insmod won't let you add things without the deps
Sep 30 20:50:55 <dwc-> so ti's generally the latter
Sep 30 20:56:41 <Jack87> hi all
Sep 30 20:57:22 <Jack87> ka6sox, my mom is talking to her sister in Armenia using skype with the touchpad. they hadnt seen eachother for nearly 10 years... its pretty cool!
Sep 30 20:59:03 <wrea> Well, it seems like i'm not getting power to my externel wifi
Sep 30 20:59:32 <wrea> usb 1-1: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power
Sep 30 21:00:14 <wrea> Going to reboot my tp with everything connected
Sep 30 21:03:39 <dwc-> you have an external power source for it?
Sep 30 21:06:17 <wrea> dwc-, Yep
Sep 30 21:08:20 * dwc- confirms source of cheap pre3s and can't help but grumble at the markup.
Sep 30 21:08:59 <wrea> Okay, so I ran dmesg and even though all the modules are loaded i'm getting unknown symbols when the wifi driver is loaded and the symbols are for a driver that is present and loaded
Sep 30 21:09:10 <wrea> dwc-, me too.
Sep 30 21:10:14 * dwc- suggests the next meetup group be a flash mob smash and liberation (I'm kidding!)
Sep 30 21:10:22 <wrea> lol
Sep 30 21:44:07 <thor968> @kill_dano: Isn't it integrated in the messaging app for the Pre3? I don't use Skype, but in the German Pre3 I can create a Skype account.
Sep 30 21:45:45 <ka6sox> Jack87, wow...that *is* kewl
Sep 30 21:47:27 <Jack87> yes it was really neat
Sep 30 23:02:35 <fudge_> is there any way to edit text messages?
Sep 30 23:07:03 <fudge_> anyone?
Sep 30 23:10:01 <diannne> why is it I cannot add the testing to manage feeds
Sep 30 23:11:07 <fudge_> did you follow the wiki?
Sep 30 23:12:26 <CMartins> Hello everyone. I have a question regarding HP Touchpad I have yet to find an answer for. It's regarding it not being able to open "MIME" type files.. I'm downloading this PDF off my college site and after it downloads it I get the message "cannot open MIME file" :(
Sep 30 23:13:24 <CMartins> Does anyone know if there is a workaround this issue? That apparently HP wont fix :/ I installed ubuntu and it works there but...kinda sucks having to run ubuntu just to be able to read a PDF
Sep 30 23:13:43 <diannne> I restore my touchpad
Sep 30 23:14:08 <diannne> and then I try to boost the speed using preward
Sep 30 23:15:18 <diannne> is stokes when I restart my touch pad there is a lot of small word coming up before to start up
Sep 30 23:25:27 <lonequid> CMartins the webserver might not be sending the PDF file proprly
Sep 30 23:25:37 <lonequid> it might not be declaring the type of file it is properly
Sep 30 23:28:35 <CMartins> I guess. What bothers me is that it works in every other device I have except the touchpad :( is it normal that all the pdf's I try to download from that site have no size? 0KB
Sep 30 23:29:23 <CMartins> Because if it was an extension or naming problem...that I could fix on my own but the files really are sorta null, got nothing inside for some reason
Sep 30 23:31:37 <dwc-> is that a public url you can share to the pdf?
Sep 30 23:36:53 <CMartins> Nop, it is my college site, I have to enter my credentials. Sucks that it works in my iPhone and wont work in the touchpad. There are a bunch of people telling HP about it but they wont do a thing...was  wondering if there was a patch for this or something, guess not
Sep 30 23:49:18 <lonequid> check if it's sending the Content-Type: right
Sep 30 23:50:27 <Xuzz> CMartins: It's an issue with the site's web server.
Sep 30 23:52:36 <CMartins> Ok. But there is certainly a work around since my other devices deal with it just fine, right? Or maybe due to the way WebOS is coded it just wont work.
Sep 30 23:52:39 <dwc-> you might be able to patch it, but you'd need to know what it's sending
Sep 30 23:57:40 <CMartins> How'd I know what is sending? My PC detects it as a PDF...touchpad says it's a null file (size: 0B), though the PDF icon in the downloads tab shows up sometimes...they are all PDFs but sometimes touchpad detects them as such, sometimes it doesn't.
Sep 30 23:59:53 <CMartins> Would any of you know how to patch it if you dealt with the site/files yourself? I could obviously provide the link and the credentials if that'd help.
Oct 01 00:04:58 <dwc-> hmm, easiest way for an end-user might be firebug
Oct 01 00:05:08 <dwc-> it should show you the protocol response headers
Oct 01 00:06:21 <BlueLaguna> I'm trying to clone the http://git.webos-internals.org/x11/xapps/ repository with git
Oct 01 00:06:36 <BlueLaguna> However, the given clone commands give me an "Access Denied" error
Oct 01 00:06:42 <BlueLaguna> Are there any public repos available?
Oct 01 00:06:49 <BlueLaguna> If so, how do I check them out?
Oct 01 00:08:20 <bpadalino> try using git://
Oct 01 00:09:58 <BlueLaguna> bpadalino: Hmm, I could've sworn I tried that before.  Thanks, that worked
Oct 01 00:10:14 <bpadalino> np
Oct 01 00:11:56 <CMartins> dwc-: Could you give me an example of what I'm looking for? protocol responde headers doesn't really ring a bell :/ I got firebug running.
Oct 01 00:13:37 <dwc-> ok, open up the "net" timing panel
Oct 01 00:13:53 <dwc-> go to "all"
Oct 01 00:13:58 <dwc-> and look for the GET for the pdf
Oct 01 00:14:03 <dwc-> click the [+]
Oct 01 00:14:14 <dwc-> under Headers, you should see Response Headers
Oct 01 00:17:00 <dwc-> if you have a PDF plugin, that might interfere... I'm not sure.
Oct 01 00:20:09 <CMartins> Date	Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:15:54 GMT Server	Apache/1.3.34 Ben-SSL/1.55 Content-Disposition	attachment; filename="Prazos Académicos 2010-2011" Content-Length	456156 Keep-Alive	timeout=15, max=100 Connection	Keep-Alive Content-Type	application/pdf
Oct 01 00:20:20 <CMartins> that dwc- ?
Oct 01 00:20:36 <CMartins> Took me a bit to find it lol sorry.
Oct 01 00:21:00 <dwc-> Yep
Oct 01 00:21:04 <ka6sox> anybody know pezman?
Oct 01 00:21:17 <dwc-> Content-Type: application/pdf ... that looks right to me
Oct 01 00:21:50 <CMartins> yeah :(
Oct 01 00:24:03 <CMartins> Does that look good Xuzz? I clicked twice in your nick, my surprise when I read chpwn.. Thanks for all the tweaks for iOS man, really! (in case you are the real one anyway :s lol )
Oct 01 00:24:16 <Xuzz> yeah, heh, looks right
Oct 01 00:24:48 <dwc-> is it a regular click on a link? can you try a open in new window, or save link as?
Oct 01 00:27:39 <CMartins> it's a click in an image, a floppy disk...I can open in a new card or copy the url link...none lead me far. Still stuck
Oct 01 00:28:37 <dwc-> maybe try the Add Download Link patch?
Oct 01 00:28:48 <CMartins> It's the only thing I'm not liking in my touchpad so far, putting the lack of apps aside, this is really annoying
Oct 01 00:29:00 <CMartins> Sure, I could do that
Oct 01 00:29:59 <dwc-> hmm, if you copy the url link on your browser, can you log out of the college site and still use the url without being prompted to log back in?
Oct 01 00:32:05 <CMartins> Nop, although I'm not prompted, nothing happens, just a blank page
Oct 01 00:33:01 <CMartins> I have installed the patch, it's restarting.
Oct 01 00:35:03 <CMartins> Sucks it won't work
Oct 01 00:35:37 <Xuzz> CMartins: try getting your cookies to log into the site and using Xecutah + XTerm + wget :p
Oct 01 00:37:04 <CMartins> That sounds rather complex Xuzz lol Could it be the cookies though? :/
Oct 01 00:37:18 <Xuzz> no, it's just an alternative method to try
Oct 01 00:37:22 <Xuzz> if it's too complex for you, dont
Oct 01 00:37:25 <Xuzz> anyway, g2g
Oct 01 00:38:16 <CMartins> ok mate, thanks for the suggestion! And keep those tweaks coming eheh Cheers
Oct 01 00:39:39 <CMartins> dwc-: any thoughts on what he said? Do you consider it to be easy to do?
Oct 01 00:41:17 <CMartins> Thought thats not very practical to be honest. It should just work the way it is supposed to lol bummer
Oct 01 00:41:24 <CMartins> Though*
Oct 01 00:42:09 <dwc-> easy, not too hard. practical? not really.
Oct 01 00:43:27 <CMartins> yeah if I'm downloading a bunch of pdfs I'm screwed using wget lol
Oct 01 00:44:15 <CMartins> Guess I should just wait for that android port, meh. I really like WebOS, this card system works so damn well. What a waste, damn you HP.
Oct 01 00:44:34 <CMartins> Thanks though dwc-, appreciate the help :)
Oct 01 00:47:09 <dwc-> np
Oct 01 00:59:33 <ka6sox> guess I corrupted hidd...wife's phone is non-responsive.
Oct 01 01:14:06 <ka6sox> good to know what you blew up....now to fix without redoctoring
Oct 01 01:21:52 <nb|webOS> hello
Oct 01 01:23:05 <nb|webOS> is there any reason why I wouldn't be able to use the att 2.1 meta  doctor script with an unlocked comm board in a Verizon pre plus?
Oct 01 01:26:13 <fudge_> nb|webOS: the only reason i can think of (atm and based off of current knowledge) is because the firmware for the modem
Oct 01 01:26:41 <nb|webOS> well I just tried it but it failed at profile sign in
Oct 01 01:27:02 <nb|webOS> and I'm wondering if anyone has any tips to make this work ?
Oct 01 01:28:17 <fudge_> iirc, you had to bypass activation, erase your backups, then sign back in
Oct 01 01:28:23 <fudge_> not too sure
Oct 01 01:28:31 <fudge_> confirm befor you do so
Oct 01 01:28:56 <nb|webOS> it's failing at trying to create a new profile too
Oct 01 01:29:32 <nb|webOS> just keeps saying "unable to sign in" "please contact palm support"
Oct 01 01:29:54 <nb|webOS> I even tried 1.4.5.1
Oct 01 01:41:31 <fudge_> did you call verizon to activate the ESN?
Oct 01 01:42:40 <nb|webOS> um it's a Verizon pre plus with an unlocked gsm comm board in it
Oct 01 01:50:04 <fudge_> oh
Oct 01 01:50:26 <fudge_> tried re-doctoring?
Oct 01 01:50:34 <nb|webOS> yea an odd configuration . not sure what to do
Oct 01 01:50:48 <nb|webOS> I've doctored it nurmous times in various ways
Oct 01 01:51:10 <fudge_> did you try using the att makefile or the verizon makefile?
Oct 01 01:51:53 <nb|webOS> att and wr mostly. because they have what I believe to be the proper modem firmware
Oct 01 01:52:33 <nb|webOS> I think I need a script that  doesn't exist. sigh.
Oct 01 01:53:04 <SineOt> oh, yeah, I was facing that too… Ended up just giving up for the while.
Oct 01 01:53:32 <nb|webOS> yea I already gave up for like a week but I've been trying again today...........
Oct 01 01:54:29 <nb|webOS> rwhitby had some insight last week, I'm hoping he can assist at pointing me in the right direction again.
Oct 01 01:54:49 <nb|webOS> but he's a busy man. :)
Oct 01 01:55:06 <ka6sox> fudge_, the guy with the pixi just got back.
Oct 01 01:55:07 <nb|webOS> so SineOt.  no success at all? what methods did you try ?
Oct 01 01:55:14 <ka6sox> whoops
Oct 01 01:55:17 <ka6sox> he be dead.
Oct 01 01:56:06 <SineOt> nb|webOS: a mix of things, but kept coming up against the like… Not for your device error. I gave up at that point, since I'm not trying to activate it since right now it's just a wifi only device
Oct 01 01:56:17 <SineOt> … a wifi only device with a bum wifi chip :T
Oct 01 01:56:48 <nb|webOS> dooh . ultimately I'm hoping to have this one working on tmobile without dataservices. wifi only
Oct 01 02:05:18 <nb|webOS> I think maybe I need to change tokens
Oct 01 02:05:54 <PuffTheMagic> http://www.youtube.com/gray726#p/a/u/2/kOguslSPpqo
Oct 01 02:06:10 <SineOt> yeah, that's what I was thinking might need to get done too
Oct 01 02:14:24 <bradmeister1> good evening
Oct 01 02:15:24 <SineOt> evening
Oct 01 02:15:27 <wrea> hi
Oct 01 02:16:02 <nb|webOS> hi
Oct 01 02:18:14 <wrea> Anyone doing host mode on the tp?
Oct 01 02:18:58 <SineOt> doesn't it do host mode out of the box?
Oct 01 02:19:07 <SineOt> well, assuming you can provide your own power
Oct 01 02:19:19 <wrea> Right
Oct 01 02:20:15 <wrea> I'm providing my own power and in dmesg I get usb 1-1: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power
Oct 01 02:21:34 <nb|webOS> hi
Oct 01 02:22:48 <bradmeister1> are you using another USB port to power or ac adapted power?
Oct 01 02:23:22 <wrea> Another usb port, but also used a ac adapter
Oct 01 02:24:48 <bradmeister1> have you tried a USB port on another system?
Oct 01 02:26:09 <wrea> Yeah
Oct 01 02:27:16 <bradmeister1> then I am out of ideas...sorry.
Oct 01 02:29:25 <bradmeister1> I don't think many people have gotten it to work.
Oct 01 02:35:12 <wrea> Bam, fixed
Oct 01 02:40:49 <wrea> USB
Oct 01 02:41:09 <wrea> echo 1 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/bConfigurationValue
Oct 01 02:41:27 <wrea> Worked for me. Now I have wlan0 :)
Oct 01 02:44:33 <wrea> I guess I should test my packages now
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