**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 04 02:59:57 2011
Oct 04 03:20:32 <kyle3om> is there a tutorial on integrating a patch with the tweaks app somewhere?
Oct 04 03:20:56 <kill_dano> anyone care to give me the IEMI number of their android tablet? I wanna use a data only tablet plan on my pre 3
Oct 04 03:21:39 <rwhitby> kyle3om: have you checked the wiki page?
Oct 04 03:22:50 <kyle3om> yes, but having now asked the question i have already found my answer lol
Oct 04 03:31:11 <hewball> roadkill: it was not limited i was drawing over 0.7a from that usb port with multimeter as thats all the wall plug would give
Oct 04 03:35:05 <hewball> seems with OTG touchstone is the way to charge
Oct 04 03:51:57 <resistivecorpse> anyone know if the touchpads wifi a
Oct 04 03:52:14 <resistivecorpse> *card canbe put into monitor mode?
Oct 04 03:53:47 <wrea> Cant.
Oct 04 03:53:52 <wrea> why?
Oct 04 03:54:32 <resistivecorpse> wanna crack wifi networks with it
Oct 04 03:54:57 <resistivecorpse> only my familys, to prove why they need better net security
Oct 04 03:55:12 <wrea> right..
Oct 04 03:55:12 <resistivecorpse> didn't wanna lug my laptop around for it
Oct 04 03:55:34 <mputtr> does anyone here know what happened to the keyboard layout patch thread?
Oct 04 03:55:43 <resistivecorpse> they all use wep and they don't believe me when I say its not enough
Oct 04 03:55:48 <mputtr> i saw that there was a thai language patch but the link was removed
Oct 04 03:57:09 <wrea> i did get kismet compiled though
Oct 04 03:58:05 <resistivecorpse> sweet
Oct 04 03:59:28 <resistivecorpse> are you gonna make it public?
Oct 04 04:00:56 <wrea> I guess thats the plan. It'd be nice to test it first, but otg is giving me problems
Oct 04 04:01:34 <wrea> Of course, right now there is only the ncurses client. Someone needs to stepup and to a enyo ui for it :P
Oct 04 04:01:39 <resistivecorpse> that sucks. is it running in unbutu in a card or with the dual boot method?
Oct 04 04:02:09 <wrea> No, its compiled natively, just needs xterm
Oct 04 04:03:32 <resistivecorpse> that rocks! I'll look forward to seeing it in preware
Oct 04 04:04:55 <kill_dano> anyone with a pre 3 get an error in preware?
Oct 04 04:04:59 <resistivecorpse> wrea: thanks for answering my questions. I gotta work in 4 hours so I gotta sleep. I'm out
Oct 04 04:05:01 <kill_dano> I can;t install anything from preware
Oct 04 04:05:20 <wrea> I needed to make packages for libnl, libpcap, an extra ncurses library and kismet
Oct 04 04:05:38 <scoutcamper> kill_dano what error exactly? Mine works fine
Oct 04 04:08:51 <kill_dano> ...
Oct 04 04:09:15 <kill_dano> getting txt form phone to computer should bve easyer
Oct 04 04:09:38 <kill_dano> -1: Unable to run command: /usr/bin/curl --user-agent Preware --create-dirs --insecure --location --fail --show-error --output /media/internal/.developer/org.webosinternals.patches.misc-ad-blocker_2.2.0-19_all.ipk http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/2.2.3/org.webosinternals.patches.misc-ad-blocker_2.2.0-19_all.ipk 2>&1 % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:--
Oct 04 04:10:13 <dwc-> email the log output to yourself
Oct 04 04:10:36 <kill_dano> did, that but it should be easyer
Oct 04 04:11:05 <emrys> so I ran into the problem again on a new touchpad where the sound stopped working after the initial (minimal) setup
Oct 04 04:11:23 <kill_dano> emrys get the pulse audio restarter app in preware
Oct 04 04:11:28 <emrys> this happened on my pre2 before and I am pretty damn sure it happened after Ichanged the default 'textassist' settings, and I did go into that screen on the touchpad
Oct 04 04:11:32 <emrys> well hold up
Oct 04 04:11:40 <emrys> I tried manually restarting pulseaudio and it refused to run
Oct 04 04:11:56 <emrys> so I straced and found that the problem was it died after it dropped perms and could not create /var/run/pulse
Oct 04 04:12:03 <emrys> lo and behold something had set /var to mode 700
Oct 04 04:12:09 <scoutcamper> kill_dano, refresh the feeds, if it still shows that talkt to rwhitby because version 2.2.0-19 is now 2.2.3-19
Oct 04 04:12:15 <emrys> is this new info about the problem? worth me posting?
Oct 04 04:12:17 <dwc-> how did you restart pule
Oct 04 04:12:31 <emrys> first I tried stop pulseaudio;stop pulseaudio
Oct 04 04:12:42 <emrys> when that failed I just did strace -Ff pulseaudio
Oct 04 04:12:48 <emrys> and found the permission denied error
Oct 04 04:12:53 <emrys> once I fixed perms on /var it works again
Oct 04 04:13:01 <kill_dano> yeah I have 2.2.3
Oct 04 04:13:02 <emrys> I don't know what set /var to 700 but I did not install much
Oct 04 04:13:09 <kill_dano> so I wonder why it says differant
Oct 04 04:13:27 <scoutcamper> kill_dano, possibly a feeds error, but i dont know that for a fact
Oct 04 04:13:28 <emrys> and I am pretty damn sure it happens after messing with the textassist settings
Oct 04 04:13:56 <emrys> anyway just wondered if this was a known part of the problem or if I should add that to the threads somewhere
Oct 04 04:14:21 <kill_dano> seems to be working now thx
Oct 04 04:14:26 <dwc-> wrea: the 2.1.2 patches for dhd seem more interested in bcm2435/2439
Oct 04 04:17:29 <wrea> Huh
Oct 04 04:17:50 <dwc-> errr
Oct 04 04:18:00 <dwc-> brainbart
Oct 04 04:18:23 <dwc-> 4325/4329
Oct 04 04:19:15 <wrea> Okay, well, I was probably not remembering correctly
Oct 04 04:19:26 <dwc-> haven't checked the other devices but it might be 4315/4319 on the older devices
Oct 04 04:19:52 <dwc-> that's just my guess though
Oct 04 04:21:33 <wrea> Thanks for checking for me
Oct 04 04:21:56 <dwc-> haven't figured out where to find the exact info on-device yet
Oct 04 04:23:13 <wrea> I looked in /lib/modules somewhere and found the bcm driver
Oct 04 04:23:41 <dwc-> I don't have that
Oct 04 04:23:45 <dwc-> all I ahve is the dhd.ko
Oct 04 04:24:45 <dwc-> src and strings suggest 4325, 4329, 4315, 4319
Oct 04 04:25:25 <dwc-> you might be able to rebuild that driver... there's an if check that matches something against those 4, maybe just klog that
Oct 04 04:27:20 <dwc-> those should all fall under the same driver sets though... b43 or bcm43xx
Oct 04 04:29:37 <wrea> It was in /lib/firmware
Oct 04 04:29:51 <wrea> and it was a bin i saw
Oct 04 04:30:10 <wrea> bcm4319.bin
Oct 04 04:30:33 <wrea> which was why I was thinking it used that one specifically
Oct 04 04:34:38 <dwc-> hmm, interesting
Oct 04 04:42:31 <dwc-> huh. the 4329 can be a/b/g/n bt and fm tx/rx
Oct 04 04:43:46 <wrea> fm rx would be cool
Oct 04 04:44:10 <wrea> dmesg should output what exactly the chipset is
Oct 04 04:44:49 <dwc-> it doesn't
Oct 04 04:45:21 <wrea> well, damn.
Oct 04 04:45:31 <dwc-> no bcm, no firmware,
Oct 04 04:45:31 <|Jason8|> wrea: fm tx would be better. :)
Oct 04 04:45:56 <dwc-> [   24.149072] board_sdio_wifi_enable
Oct 04 04:45:59 <dwc-> (bunch of)
Oct 04 04:46:10 <dwc-> [   24.639469] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x00 length 0
Oct 04 04:46:12 <dwc-> (type things)
Oct 04 04:46:22 <dwc-> actually I should just pastebin it
Oct 04 04:48:01 <dwc-> http://pastebin.com/cNb0S7DS
Oct 04 04:48:25 <dwc-> ... except that paste seems to have messed up
Oct 04 04:48:28 <dwc-> but you get the idea
Oct 04 04:48:38 <dwc-> (scroll to the bottom)
Oct 04 04:54:43 <wrea> hmm
Oct 04 04:56:56 <PatrickC> hey wrea... whats all the hmm'ing about? :)
Oct 04 05:05:04 <wrea> well, i think I could get compat-wireless working
Oct 04 05:06:45 <PatrickC> wow. this ubuntu autoconfig thing is massive, but nice :)
Oct 04 05:07:16 <wrea> dwc-, it might look like bcm4319.bin is just cruft. in the dhd source it seems like they remove any mention of it in the patch
Oct 04 05:24:15 <PatrickC> anyone running xfce4 on the ubuntu chroot?
Oct 04 08:15:47 <Douilspee> anyone compiled puredata extended for touchpad ?
Oct 04 08:32:21 <technikfreak> very cool to see that now it is posted a new version of the synergy plugins
Oct 04 08:32:28 <technikfreak> i will test it on my tp ;later today
Oct 04 08:32:41 <technikfreak> thanks guys your awesome!
Oct 04 08:33:28 <EricBlade> eh?
Oct 04 08:33:55 <hucksy> really? wohoo
Oct 04 08:36:46 <hucksy> wait... where? :p
Oct 04 08:43:15 <cmv> speaking of updates i just noticed the xecutah update
Oct 04 08:43:25 <cmv> isn't one xserver per app horribly expensive?
Oct 04 08:50:48 <technikfreak> http://forums.precentral.net/webos-homebrew-apps/233983-messaging-plugins-add-more-im-options-your-pre.html
Oct 04 08:53:10 <technikfreak> oh its an outdated post damn web 2.0 culture
Oct 04 08:54:46 <hucksy> :D
Oct 04 08:55:07 <hucksy>  /slap
Oct 04 10:09:57 <rwhitby> cmv: if someone has a multi-window X server that runs on webOS, we'll be happy to use it instead.
Oct 04 10:10:39 * rwhitby prefers 1 inefficient solution to 10 non-working solutions
Oct 04 10:50:28 <cmv> good point
Oct 04 10:51:31 <rwhitby> and due to shared libraries, it's not actually that expensive
Oct 04 10:51:47 <rwhitby> we got 30 xterms open on a touchpad before getting a too many cards error
Oct 04 14:30:54 * jtrucks thinks the current xterm solution is fine.
Oct 04 15:42:48 <Lazar_Dobrescu> Anyone here is a frequent WIDK user? I was wondering how it's "meant" to be used, for example when I want to build a library that is not part of the included "packages". Should I put that library into packages then build it or it doesn't matter? Should I "make install" it into /usr/local so when I then build something that needs it it will see it? any other consideration?
Oct 04 15:45:26 <Lazar_Dobrescu> also when I want to build included packages(but only some of them), can I do it using some sort of make stage command that can build a single package or should I just to into sb and build it there?
Oct 04 15:45:44 <Lazar_Dobrescu> go into sb*
Oct 04 17:11:07 <Douilspee> hi
Oct 04 17:11:49 <Douilspee> how u make ctrl click : open in new tab  on touchpad + ubuntu + chrome ?   :)
Oct 04 17:37:01 <kai_office> In the Ubuntu chroot, I've installed the ubuntu-netbook packages, and started up X. Everything runs great, even 'wesnoth --smallgui' seems to work great.
Oct 04 17:37:37 <kai_office> I tried dosbox, but the keyboard doesn't seem to work correctly. For instance, when I hit the 'enter' key, it thinks I hit the '4' key.
Oct 04 17:37:52 <kai_office> It appears that the 'l' key is 'enter'.
Oct 04 17:38:24 <kai_office> Douilspee: When I run gnome, my ctrl button stops working (hold down t)
Oct 04 17:38:39 <kai_office> Douilspee: I'm not sure how to fix it either.
Oct 04 17:40:04 <Douilspee> i added gesture for button 2
Oct 04 17:40:19 <Douilspee> i start it on the link  and it works
Oct 04 17:41:13 <Douilspee> i like lxde and never was a gnome user :)
Oct 04 17:42:53 <kai_office> Douilspee: how did you install chrome?
Oct 04 17:43:18 <Douilspee> i followed the tutorial, does not remember
Oct 04 17:43:27 <Douilspee> maybe apt
Oct 04 17:43:30 <kai_office> oh, it's called 'chromium-browser' :)
Oct 04 17:43:36 <Douilspee> ya
Oct 04 17:44:48 <Douilspee> thats chromium the free one
Oct 04 17:45:10 <Douilspee> other package is named google-chrome on my debian, can't find it on touchpad
Oct 04 17:45:20 <kai_office> I couldn't find a google-chrome for ubuntu arm
Oct 04 17:45:42 <Douilspee> do you have flash ?
Oct 04 17:46:14 <kai_office> Douilspee: There is no linux-arm Adobe Flash. I've heard you can try Gnash.
Oct 04 17:46:31 <kai_office> but I'm just not willing. Flash from WebOS works fine, so I'd just switch there if I need flash.
Oct 04 17:46:56 * dwc- rejoices though for flash11 and native 64-bit linux support
Oct 04 17:47:33 <Shorty_> ugh flash :/
Oct 04 17:47:43 <Shorty_> wait sorry, didn't mean to troll :~
Oct 04 17:48:20 <dwc-> (I'm not that fond of flash, but native is better than ndiswrapper'd)
Oct 04 17:48:39 <dwc-> s/ndiswrapper/nspluginwrapper/
Oct 04 17:48:40 <infobot> dwc- meant: (I'm not that fond of flash, but native is better than nspluginwrapper'd)
Oct 04 17:48:41 <Douilspee> any tutorial how compile a linux app on touchpad + ubuntu ?
Oct 04 17:49:02 <Douilspee> nice bot lol :)
Oct 04 17:50:37 <kai_office> Douilspee: I think any ARM compiler tutorial will work.
Oct 04 17:50:51 <Douilspee> i need some puredata stuffs
Oct 04 17:51:07 <Douilspee> kai_office: i'm new to compilation ;)
Oct 04 17:52:51 <Douilspee> but ok i'll use any :)
Oct 04 17:54:06 <kai_office> I don't have any for you :)
Oct 04 17:59:56 <Douilspee> http://newbrightidea.com/?p=149
Oct 04 18:00:04 <Douilspee> kai_office:  this one looks ok ?
Oct 04 18:02:14 <kai_office> I wouldn't know, I've never done it :)
Oct 04 18:02:40 <Douilspee> ok :)
Oct 04 18:03:25 <dtzWill> Lazar_Dobrescu: it's meant to use however you want to use it :3
Oct 04 18:04:11 <dtzWill> Lazar_Dobrescu: it's changed--it used to be a pdk-like solution that provided waht you needed... but as time went on what was "needed" for support libraries (see: X, enlightenment, etc) wasn't useful for everyone
Oct 04 18:04:37 <dtzWill> so atm it's mostly a framework for building things, automating setting up a cross-compiler, and pulling down the headers/libraries from official palm sources/doctor images
Oct 04 18:04:56 <Lazar_Dobrescu> I see... thank you
Oct 04 18:05:10 <Lazar_Dobrescu> it still seems to lack a bit in flexibility :)
Oct 04 18:05:14 <dtzWill> "make install" dependencies sorta makes sense, but how to manage package an application and it's dependencies (ones that aren't on the device already) isn't really a supported use-case yet
Oct 04 18:05:30 <dtzWill> (although we/i wish it was, X compilation is a big mess as a result xD)
Oct 04 18:06:05 <Lazar_Dobrescu> yeah for example if I need to use a hardcoded path to look for so dependencies(-Wl,-R linker option), I don't see a clean way to do it :)
Oct 04 18:06:12 <dtzWill> while i can't promise anything since we're all short on time, if you think a different organization or something would be useful, that'd be a welcome discussion :)
Oct 04 18:06:27 <dtzWill> Lazar_Dobrescu: besides adding it to LDFLAGS on configure/make?
Oct 04 18:06:30 <Lazar_Dobrescu> yeah
Oct 04 18:06:38 <Lazar_Dobrescu> that's what I do
Oct 04 18:06:46 <Lazar_Dobrescu> but it needs to be added at an awkward time
Oct 04 18:06:50 <Lazar_Dobrescu> or I dont get something ...
Oct 04 18:06:51 <dtzWill> oh, "clean"? xD
Oct 04 18:07:08 <Lazar_Dobrescu> it's like I want to "make stage-local" on a folder
Oct 04 18:07:15 <Lazar_Dobrescu> but it does all the configure and make by itself
Oct 04 18:07:21 <Lazar_Dobrescu> and has no apparent support for changing LDFLAGS
Oct 04 18:07:30 <Lazar_Dobrescu> except editing the Makefile ofc
Oct 04 18:07:58 <dtzWill> welll if you have a dep on a file you can export a variable and the submake'll see it >_>
Oct 04 18:08:10 <dtzWill> but that's anything but clean lol, at lesat the way we have things set up
Oct 04 18:08:17 <Lazar_Dobrescu> ok... it's not a big deal
Oct 04 18:08:21 <Lazar_Dobrescu> was just wondering if I was using it wrong
Oct 04 18:08:36 <dtzWill> yeah, sorry. nope, sounds like you got everything right. for better or for worse :)
Oct 04 18:08:50 <Lazar_Dobrescu> ok thanks a lot then :) it'll do what I need in the end anyway so it all works
Oct 04 18:10:03 <Lazar_Dobrescu> as for the packaging I'm hoping all libraries I will use will support DESTDIR so I can make install it both to the rootfs /usr/local AND to a custom dir to use for packaging :)
Oct 04 18:12:48 <Douilspee> :/
Oct 04 18:13:10 <Douilspee> can't read pdf from ubuntu :/
Oct 04 18:13:53 <dtzWill> Lazar_Dobrescu: wonderful :). if that works as a workflow i'll adopt it elsewhere :)
Oct 04 18:20:58 <Lazar_Dobrescu> dtzWill: Is it known exactly which libs can we expect to be on a device or should we assume none is there and package even the ones included in the packages folder of the widk?
Oct 04 18:21:48 <dtzWill> Lazar_Dobrescu: many things in packages aren't on device, sorry.
Oct 04 18:22:00 <Lazar_Dobrescu> ok
Oct 04 18:22:07 <dtzWill> Lazar_Dobrescu: most on-device libraries are from 'common', fwiw, but i don't think there's any hard-fast rule.
Oct 04 18:22:16 <Lazar_Dobrescu> ok so no real way to know
Oct 04 18:22:18 <dtzWill> Lazar_Dobrescu: if you're submitting to app catalog palm lists the libraries you can assume exist
Oct 04 18:22:30 <dtzWill> if it's homebrew, those + what experience tells you are already there :)
Oct 04 18:22:36 <Lazar_Dobrescu> hehe ok
Oct 04 18:48:01 <Douilspee> puredata on arm : http://enchevetres.org/doku.php?id=tek:puredata
Oct 04 18:48:07 <Douilspee> extended !
Oct 04 19:07:13 <kill_dano> my touchpad's gmail quit working... all emails arrive, but I get a vague error when I try to view any
Oct 04 19:07:53 <kill_dano> "an error occured when downloading thing msg"
Oct 04 19:12:07 <halfhalo> what does /var/log/messages say about it
Oct 04 19:20:11 <kill_dano> idk it has about 50 pages of logs
Oct 04 19:22:20 <halfhalo> idk how i'm going to help you then
Oct 04 19:22:59 <kill_dano> what am I lookihg for?
Oct 04 19:23:34 <kill_dano> it has hundreds of thouthands of entries
Oct 04 19:24:15 <halfhalo> going to assume there are entries related to your email account that occur at the same time as you trying to read a message
Oct 04 19:38:33 <kill_dano> http://pastie.org/2639578
Oct 04 19:38:41 <kill_dano> found it
Oct 04 19:39:03 <kill_dano> did I run out of space on sum partition?
Oct 04 19:41:14 <halfhalo> thats what it looks like
Oct 04 19:41:26 <kill_dano> any ideas?
Oct 04 19:42:19 <kill_dano> delete an app?
Oct 04 19:42:32 <kill_dano> usb is not full
Oct 04 19:42:38 <halfhalo> pastebin df -h
Oct 04 19:42:53 <kill_dano> what's that
Oct 04 19:42:57 <kill_dano> sry
Oct 04 19:43:02 <kill_dano> oh
Oct 04 19:43:05 <kill_dano> gotcha
Oct 04 19:43:11 <kill_dano> on it
Oct 04 19:49:27 <kill_dano> dev/mapper/store-cryptofilecatch is @ 100%
Oct 04 19:53:23 <kill_dano> any thoughts halfhalo?
Oct 04 20:07:43 <oldtopman> ka6sox-away: I got the image method working bto
Oct 04 20:07:45 <oldtopman> btw*
Oct 04 20:10:35 <fsb> hello, i need the ipk for linphone voip! Do somebady have it for download?
Oct 04 20:16:07 <fsb> Hello, can someone help me? I am searching for linphone alpha version? Thanks
Oct 04 20:56:06 <gizmo21> hallo everybody, i seem to have some filesystem probs on my pre2 2.1. I recently saw more ore and more sed write error on installing patches and
Oct 04 20:56:34 <dwc-> is your disk full?
Oct 04 20:56:36 <ttrree> help
Oct 04 20:56:58 <gizmo21> and also don't get updates installed
Oct 04 20:57:04 <ttrree> need a terminal for my touchpad
Oct 04 20:58:24 <summatusmentis> xecutah
Oct 04 20:58:39 <dwc-> xecutah isn't a terminal :P
Oct 04 20:58:47 <dwc-> but, xterm is
Oct 04 20:58:49 <dwc-> and will require it
Oct 04 20:58:54 <summatusmentis> whatever, you know
Oct 04 20:58:56 <summatusmentis> that thing
Oct 04 20:58:58 <dwc-> ;)
Oct 04 20:59:01 <summatusmentis> that makes terminals
Oct 04 20:59:12 <dwc-> terminal hatcheries
Oct 04 20:59:25 <summatusmentis> yeah
Oct 04 20:59:34 <gizmo21> well 12,8gb avail but don't know now about the root filesystem
Oct 04 20:59:58 <dima__> yea fuck youguys
Oct 04 21:00:11 <dwc-> thanks, you too dima__
Oct 04 21:01:33 <dima__> yea you guys fuck wit me again full be pretty ducked
Oct 04 21:05:29 <ttrree> installed xterm
Oct 04 21:05:56 <ttrree> thx
Oct 04 21:05:58 <ttrree> exit
Oct 04 21:06:03 <ttrree> quit
Oct 04 21:08:19 <destinal> should silence dima__ if he/she decides to come back
Oct 04 21:10:45 <halfhalo> that was slightly random
Oct 04 21:15:20 <gizmo21> a df on terminal brings some 100% used on /var/palm/jail/or.webosinternals.tweaks.prefs/var/ssl/trustedcerts or /var/luna/preferences
Oct 04 21:23:12 * dwc- knows not enough about this ircd to know if *!*@<ip> masks match the freenode gateways etc
Oct 04 21:23:24 <dwc-> gizmo21: you can ignore any mount with '/var/palm/jail' in it
Oct 04 21:29:13 <bhuey> is there a way of extracting text message on a 2.1 device ? I see a script for doing that but i don't know what version is for.
Oct 04 21:29:16 <bhuey> ?
Oct 04 21:29:33 <bhuey> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PalmDatabase.db3_File
Oct 04 21:29:41 <bhuey> not sure if this still applies to 2.1
Oct 04 21:30:55 <gizmo21> thx dwc-
Oct 04 21:34:38 <gizmo21> well also /dev/mapper/store-root has 100% mounted on /var
Oct 04 21:36:38 <RichT23> Hay All
Oct 04 21:37:04 <RichT23> Well today i learned that the Pre3 as a second camera!
Oct 04 21:37:11 <halfhalo> yup
Oct 04 21:37:40 <RichT23> i have no idea how to use it though, maybe skype does
Oct 04 21:39:33 <RichT23> id test it out if i could get the damed Wifi to connect to my home network
Oct 04 21:41:00 <RichT23> i could rebuild the image though
Oct 04 21:41:16 <RichT23> hopefully there will be a 2.2.3 for row
Oct 04 21:46:54 <gizmo21> how to cleanup /var ?
Oct 04 21:48:06 <RichT23>  could start in /var/logv
Oct 04 21:48:22 <RichT23>  err /var/log
Oct 04 21:53:59 <RichT23> i normaly use something like `du -sk * | sort -rn | head -5 `
Oct 04 21:55:34 <dwc-> gizmo21: check /var and see what's using up all the space
Oct 04 21:55:55 <dwc-> RichT23: you don't really want to traverse all the mountpoints though
Oct 04 21:56:16 <dwc-> if you have /var/opt, see how much that is
Oct 04 21:56:21 <dwc-> that's a likely culprit, IMO
Oct 04 21:58:17 <gizmo21> well i saw navit speech dispatcher there so unistalled it to try, and now i have 97% used and my  google account works now :) so that is the right direction, thx a lot so far
Oct 04 21:58:25 <RichT23> dwc-: ya i just did that for the first time on webOS, it does take a while
Oct 04 21:59:18 <RichT23> i forget what the switch for du is that keeps in the current mount
Oct 04 22:00:54 <RichT23>  oh maybe -x
Oct 04 22:03:16 <RichT23> oh and /var/log is a diffrent fs at least for me
Oct 04 22:04:26 <wrea> Hey LarrySteeze
Oct 04 22:35:22 <rwhitby> dwc-: BTW, /var/opt no longer actually uses space in /var - it's either a loopfs from /media/cryptofs, or a bind mount of /media/ext3fs
Oct 04 22:38:31 <gizmo21> i know found /var/luna/data/downloadhistory.db to be 40MB
Oct 04 22:41:37 <gizmo21> how could i clean downloadhistory.db
Oct 04 22:46:12 <rwhitby> you can remove that file without issue
Oct 04 23:01:06 <gizmo21> thx rod after that i will try a real reboot again. Previous ones resulted in hanging on the hplogo befor e the pumping
Oct 04 23:13:04 <gizmo21> so that went through straight, /var is now back to 34% and my photos app and media indexing works again
Oct 04 23:15:01 <gizmo21> thx to all you guys - i will post the steps on precentral so i and others can find it again
Oct 04 23:19:54 <le0-> having trouble installing preware with webosquickinstall-4.3.1
Oct 04 23:20:05 <le0-> it freezes on installing.. it just keeps saying installing
Oct 04 23:20:25 <rwhitby> le0-: reboot first
Oct 04 23:20:31 <le0-> computer
Oct 04 23:20:33 * dwc- frowns... carrier not supported.
Oct 04 23:20:34 <le0-> or touchpad
Oct 04 23:20:41 <dwc-> maybe I should have activated this on an AT&T sim....
Oct 04 23:20:59 <le0-> rwhitby
Oct 04 23:21:14 <wrea> dwc-, perhaps
Oct 04 23:21:15 <rwhitby> touchpad
Oct 04 23:21:19 <le0-> ok
Oct 04 23:21:37 <dwc-> oh well... too late....
Oct 04 23:21:44 <dwc-> which I think is funny
Oct 04 23:21:58 <dwc-> there's no skype ipk in the AT&T, but in the VZW and ROW
Oct 04 23:22:08 <dwc-> but my friends on AT&T can download it from the catalog
Oct 04 23:22:16 <dwc-> but me on tmobile can't
Oct 04 23:23:28 <rwhitby> ROW doctor has skype included
Oct 04 23:24:51 <dwc-> vzw has a 1.1-8.3 and a skype-download 1.0-2 ipk... row has 1.1-8.3... catalog says 1.0.3?
Oct 04 23:29:05 <le0-> how long does it take to install preware_1.8.3_arm.ipk
Oct 04 23:29:15 <rwhitby> 5 seconds max
Oct 04 23:29:26 <le0-> it jut says installing: org.webosinternals.preware_1.8.3_arm.ipk
Oct 04 23:29:29 <le0-> been like a minute
Oct 04 23:29:33 <dwc-> reboot and try it again
Oct 04 23:29:37 <le0-> i did
Oct 04 23:29:38 <le0-> damn
Oct 04 23:29:54 <rwhitby> try one of the other 4 methods http://install.preware.org/
Oct 04 23:30:03 <wrea> le0-, on windows?
Oct 04 23:30:10 <le0-> yea windows 7
Oct 04 23:30:32 <wrea> I had that problem too. I had to kill the process and try again
Oct 04 23:30:40 <le0-> yea i killed it
Oct 04 23:30:44 <wrea> I havent had a problem doing on linux though
Oct 04 23:30:45 <le0-> and tried again and same thing
Oct 04 23:30:49 <le0-> unless i missed something
Oct 04 23:31:43 <rwhitby> le0-: there are some threads on PreCentral about windows 7 issues
Oct 04 23:32:58 <le0-> hmm
Oct 04 23:35:43 <le0-> whats this WebOS Doctor
Oct 04 23:35:46 <le0-> do i have to do it
Oct 04 23:38:41 <le0-> oh it worked
Oct 04 23:38:46 <le0-> nice
Oct 04 23:45:33 <gizmo21> http://forums.precentral.net/webos-discussion/302342-errors-indicating-disc-write-problem.html#post3192833 thx again guys
Oct 05 02:38:05 <Shelnutt2> Anyone having problems with the debian chroot on a touchpad?
Oct 05 02:45:43 <oc80z> no
Oct 05 02:48:31 <Shelnutt2> I keep getting '/bin/bash' no such file, ls shows its there and fine. I've uninstalled the ipkg through preware and also rm -rf the folder but everytime I reinstall I'm getting this issue.
Oct 05 02:48:44 <Shelnutt2> Ubuntu chroot is working fine, as is a manual gentoo chroot setup
Oct 05 02:55:58 <actionfigure> hello
Oct 05 02:56:36 <Shelnutt2> hey
Oct 05 02:56:44 <actionfigure> im having issues with mms. im not able to receive or send pictures..im not sure how to configure or where to find it since i do not see an option for it
Oct 05 02:56:55 <oc80z> is it bash or is it dash?
Oct 05 02:57:16 <oc80z> ls shows the files there..
Oct 05 02:57:23 <oc80z> dunno you talking about busybox?
Oct 05 02:57:38 <Shelnutt2> bash
Oct 05 02:57:59 <oc80z> sounds like a unionfs thing heh
Oct 05 02:58:02 <actionfigure> i think i need to configure the apn...but where is it on the pre plus?
Oct 05 02:58:03 <oc80z> ddunno d00d
Oct 05 02:58:44 <Shelnutt2> Everything was working fine till a few days ago and then it died in the middle of me testing out qemu user mode emulation
Oct 05 02:59:30 <Shelnutt2> but if I do a rm -rf of the folder I should be good on reinstall but I'm not, no matter how I try, is there a bugzilla to report bugs for webos-internals?
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