**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 09 02:59:57 2011 Oct 09 05:13:11 anyone around at this hour? Oct 09 05:15:33 y Oct 09 05:19:42 o/ Oct 09 05:30:26 preferably people i know. bpadalino ka6sox PuffTheMagic ping Oct 09 05:30:40 sup Oct 09 05:32:48 apparently the rest of us aren't anyone Oct 09 05:32:48 well fine then *wanders off* Oct 09 05:33:10 * geist frowns Oct 09 05:33:32 lol Oct 09 05:33:43 nothing personal Oct 09 05:34:21 PuffTheMagic i sent you a pm Oct 09 05:41:10 you geist Oct 09 05:41:12 yo Oct 09 05:41:21 * tmzt_ wasn't on the list either Oct 09 05:42:19 jcsullins has got some really cool stuff going in moboot, ext2 is working and bootiing kernels, uImage multi works, there's a menu and input and graphics Oct 09 05:47:53 <[mbm]> someone mentioned that you guys might know something about usb booting an omap3 hs? Oct 09 07:47:20 ka6sox: for TP Oct 09 08:09:34 [mbm]: yeah Oct 09 08:10:22 Note the OMAP boot procedure documented here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery Oct 09 08:12:25 though the tool listed there is a bit older, omap u-boot utils (pusb etc) are a bit newer /maintained and will do the same thing https://github.com/nmenon/omap-u-boot-utils/ Oct 09 09:51:20 <[mbm]> destinal: I've see the normal omap stuff but the problem is I'm trying to boot an hs device not a gp Oct 09 12:05:51 wow, mupdf rocks on my TP! Oct 09 15:27:47 [mbm]: ah, I wasn't previously aware of the difference Oct 09 15:29:15 HS = high security, ugh Oct 09 16:24:08 hmm.. just installed the ubuntu chroot, and when I click it to start it, the screen flashes, then goes back to a blank xserver Oct 09 16:24:31 anyone know what's happening? Oct 09 16:24:57 hey.. where can I find some info on how to set up my own Preware feed? (I want to do this for some internal testing with a couple of phones) Oct 09 16:26:33 m-h-k: you have 2 choices, you can either use a public dropbox feed (grabbing link on how to make that) or you can have a much more private feed (grabbing link also) Oct 09 16:27:23 I was trying to find some info in the Wiki how to set up the repository, Packages file etc. Oct 09 16:28:22 The idea is, I have a couple of ipks which I built with ipk packager, now I would like to drop them somewhere and all my phones can update via Preware Oct 09 16:29:09 (instead of copying the ipk to each phone manually and installing there) Oct 09 16:29:25 m-h-k: public dropbox (or other service) method http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/282230-ipkg-feed-generator-v1-0-a.html - more private method https://github.com/Appstuh/webOS_Repository Oct 09 16:29:59 ok cool, thanks PatrickC, I will check the links.. I believe I can work from those pointers.. thanks Oct 09 16:30:01 m-h-k: you can build a Packages file. just look at the ones at ipkg.preware.org Oct 09 16:30:11 yeah I looked at those Oct 09 16:30:19 Guess I can write them manually Oct 09 16:30:27 if that's all I need to put in there Oct 09 16:30:36 everything is in there Oct 09 16:30:47 I wasn't sure if I need to build any checksums or whatever Oct 09 16:30:48 and more. you can do screenshots/min webos versions/etc. Oct 09 16:30:54 I didn't Oct 09 16:31:07 and I just copied the Packages file Oct 09 16:31:41 look at the git repo for preware/build Oct 09 16:31:51 ok Oct 09 16:32:02 dwc-: ah. forgot about that one Oct 09 16:32:14 will study... thanks for your pointers Oct 09 16:32:23 somewhere in there is the Packages creation Oct 09 16:32:51 dtzWill: you around? Oct 09 16:33:04 in my case, it doesn't have to be perfect. Just needs to get some beta ipks out to a handful of phones Oct 09 17:56:47 can anyone help me out for a second with webos quick install? Oct 09 17:57:41 i cant get preware to show up as an available package Oct 09 18:00:05 resistivecorpse, ask jay canuck...its not our app :D Oct 09 18:00:24 is he ever in here? Oct 09 18:01:03 not that I've ever seen in 2yrs Oct 09 18:01:37 ka6sox, if you know where i can grab an ipk for preware that all im lookin for Oct 09 18:02:01 its in the topic Oct 09 18:02:03 get.preware.org Oct 09 18:02:52 ka6sox, thanks Oct 09 18:09:11 ka6sox: I need the gesture handling code (SDL) for touchpad Oct 09 18:10:21 it seems to be a little bit tricky to handle pinch-to-zoom Oct 09 18:33:49 resistivecorpse: Jason Robitaille aka JayCanuck on twitter and precentral (and one of those two is probably the best way to get a hold of him Oct 09 18:35:50 destinal, thanks Oct 09 18:36:13 think i got it sorted but good to know for future reference Oct 09 19:52:16 LunohoD, probably best to ask dtzWill Oct 09 23:37:38 how do I watch what is being said? Never done this before. Oct 09 23:38:33 anyone here? Oct 09 23:56:39 yes, many. Oct 09 23:56:45 yep Oct 10 00:54:12 greetings :) Oct 10 00:55:43 hi Oct 10 00:56:48 hows it going Oct 10 00:59:38 it goes Oct 10 01:00:21 good. anything new? Oct 10 01:01:03 Palm has screwed me for a month. Maybe one day I'll get my Veer back to play with Oct 10 01:02:02 oh what's wrong Oct 10 01:03:08 Sent it in a month ago and it boils down to them lying to me on what was happening with it Oct 10 01:03:31 oh sorry to hear that Oct 10 01:03:41 veer is nice Oct 10 01:04:53 Wish I could afford the pre 3 Oct 10 01:05:03 what was wrong with it Oct 10 01:05:32 A huge cluster of stuck and dead pixels Oct 10 01:05:56 oh Oct 10 01:06:32 I had it in my possession for one whole day before it was sent out Oct 10 01:07:05 pre? Oct 10 01:07:35 did you it like that inthe store Oct 10 01:07:44 opp Oct 10 01:07:59 did yoy buy it like that Oct 10 01:08:19 :) can't type Oct 10 01:08:27 I got it through an intermediary new in box Oct 10 01:09:21 oh ok Oct 10 01:09:58 warranty? Oct 10 01:10:43 Yeah, it's covered, just palm screwing me over Oct 10 01:10:46 :P Oct 10 01:11:08 hmmm Oct 10 01:11:30 mine is not under warranty Oct 10 01:12:28 mine breaks, I need to buy another one Oct 10 01:16:48 how long will palm be anound Oct 10 01:17:28 time will tell Oct 10 01:18:39 yeah Oct 10 01:19:40 I wonder what's the fastest overclock on a palm pre Oct 10 01:20:54 pre +/-? I know that 1.2GHz has been hit. don't remember anything higher though Oct 10 01:22:04 oh cool. I don't see 1.2 on govnah Oct 10 01:22:31 wrea let us know the results :) Oct 10 01:22:52 Should be another month at this rate :P Oct 10 01:24:27 I installed patch faster card animation. it makes it faster Oct 10 01:24:51 wrea oh ok. did you talk to them Oct 10 01:25:02 * ka6sox watches for them to INCINERATE their device....And LAUGH. Oct 10 01:25:12 ka6sox, lol, yeah Oct 10 01:25:21 I've talked to them, many, many times Oct 10 01:26:20 if they start sending some HATE our way I would remind them about the rules for Alpha and Beta feeds.... Oct 10 01:27:25 You make it sound like people read rules Oct 10 01:27:34 :P Oct 10 01:27:48 Yeah. Oct 10 01:29:22 I have 3 Pre2s... I'd be willing to fry one Oct 10 01:30:55 why is 1.1GHz the fastest OC for pre2? Oct 10 01:30:59 heh Oct 10 01:31:55 p2 should be oc to 1.5 Oct 10 01:32:11 or 2ghz Oct 10 01:32:12 with what kernel? Oct 10 01:32:39 should. didn't sat can yet :) Oct 10 01:33:26 is anyone working on a patch to oc pre2 Oct 10 01:34:11 unixpsycho I guess, but he hasn't updated the beta kernels in months Oct 10 01:34:44 maybe he has a pre3 Oct 10 01:35:20 imagine pre2 at 2ghz :) Oct 10 01:35:45 then I'd want a pre 2 Oct 10 01:36:05 pre 2 is worth it purely for the extra ram Oct 10 01:36:28 yep Oct 10 01:36:31 I got 2 extras when HP was selling them for $49 Oct 10 01:36:43 what! Oct 10 01:37:03 wow great deal Oct 10 01:37:20 I'd like a touchpad Oct 10 01:37:22 couple days after they announced they were quitting Oct 10 01:37:35 I didnt know about the phones at the time or else would have gotten some Oct 10 01:37:43 :( sad I really enjoy webos Oct 10 01:38:07 wrea you and me both Oct 10 01:38:34 was there anything to that rumor about amazon being interested in webos? Oct 10 01:38:42 guinness what are going to do with all 3 Oct 10 01:38:53 I did get my veer close to the firesale price though Oct 10 01:39:07 never heard of that Oct 10 01:39:26 I figured there was a pretty good chance I'd break the glass or drop one in a toilet or something before I find a new phone I like... Oct 10 01:39:32 just got 'em as backups Oct 10 01:39:36 veer is cute Oct 10 01:40:10 guinness good thinking Oct 10 01:40:45 it's still a $500 phone. how could I NOT buy two when they were 90% off Oct 10 01:40:51 * halfhalo has a shelf full of backups Oct 10 01:40:58 lol yep Oct 10 01:41:19 got my pre plus for $100 Oct 10 01:42:00 I need another sprint pre- comm board Oct 10 01:42:15 why Oct 10 01:43:02 because I'm on Sprint and if I drop this one in a toilet I'll need another comm board to get back online with one of my spares Oct 10 01:43:09 I'd like a pre2 and a veer just for fun Oct 10 01:43:30 i like the veer Oct 10 01:43:37 but i like the pre3 more. Oct 10 01:43:55 can't run either of those on Sprint Oct 10 01:44:03 guinness you need to stop taking your palm in the restroom lol Oct 10 01:44:08 bah, sprint. Oct 10 01:44:15 I like to read while I piss Oct 10 01:44:24 lol Oct 10 01:44:35 I do too. guilty Oct 10 01:44:37 that's what a Touchpad is for Oct 10 01:44:44 it won't fit down through the seat :U Oct 10 01:44:50 nah that's for a dump Oct 10 01:45:41 veer is so small I wonder if I can type on it Oct 10 01:48:12 I think the keyboard is supposed to be about the same size as a pre Oct 10 01:48:29 oh Oct 10 01:48:35 cool Oct 10 01:48:46 yeah, it's not that bad. Pixi sized or there abouts Oct 10 01:48:49 and Pixi sized is nice Oct 10 01:48:55 takes some getting used to but usable Oct 10 01:49:07 is the mic on the keyboard Oct 10 01:49:36 I like that the pixi. great kb Oct 10 01:50:18 hm.. anyone know if I update to 3.0.3 there will be new kernels available? (or is the source not out yet) Oct 10 01:53:03 I still want a pixi plus :) Oct 10 01:53:56 theres a 0.3? Oct 10 01:54:46 apparently Oct 10 01:54:49 don't know Oct 10 01:54:59 there was a thread on xda about it but it got pruned Oct 10 01:55:03 here's the cache Oct 10 01:55:04 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1290849&pbx=1&oq=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1290849&aq=f&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=11095l12022l0l12229l7l4l0l0l0l0l213l705l0.2.2l4l0 Oct 10 01:55:27 oh so not officially yet Oct 10 01:55:53 apparently there is also a 3.0.4 if you doctor with the jar in that thread Oct 10 01:56:04 hahaha Oct 10 01:56:10 via system update. Oct 10 01:56:27 2.0 coming to pre plus? Oct 10 01:56:29 intesting I guess they got one that updates via a beta track? Oct 10 01:56:36 perhaps Oct 10 01:56:49 I'm going to give it a whirl for the hell of it Oct 10 01:59:18 was apparently compiled 9/22/11 Oct 10 02:00:08 if it bricks my device.. RMA I suppose Oct 10 02:01:50 acfrazier good luck :) Oct 10 02:01:58 21% so far Oct 10 02:02:23 actionfigure_: please do not post links to NDA material in this channel Oct 10 02:02:34 actionfigure_: sorry, was meant for acfrazier Oct 10 02:02:49 rwhitby, will make note of that Oct 10 02:02:50 ? Oct 10 02:02:51 my bad Oct 10 02:03:11 actionfigure_: tab complete fail Oct 10 02:03:25 :) it's all good Oct 10 02:04:45 how do I do tab complete Oct 10 02:05:10 acfrazier: also, discussion of RMA'ing a device which you intentionally damaged by using leaked firmware is off-topic here too Oct 10 02:06:39 * rwhitby suggests folks read the "Fundamental Principles" slide from http://www.preware.org/presentation.pdf Oct 10 02:06:47 rwhitby, well, I wouldn't say intentionally.. but I understand. Noted. Oct 10 02:07:44 acfrazier: installing firmware from a non-official source is an intentional act Oct 10 02:08:07 true.. like how people say they "accidentally" updated their iPhone which updated the baseband Oct 10 02:08:12 I never thought I'd be one of those people Oct 10 02:08:15 >.> Oct 10 02:08:31 one day, with all the touchpads in circulation, someone *will* put some malware in something Oct 10 02:09:21 and the number of people who fritzed their kernels with the chroid app shows how many people will be caught by it too Oct 10 02:09:49 ah, that thing Oct 10 02:09:52 glad I didn't install it. Oct 10 02:10:11 how did you know the "3.0.3" was any different? Oct 10 02:10:27 I didn't. However, it was a risk I was willing to accept. Oct 10 02:10:46 I was gone most of the weekend so I havent heard about the chroid thing Oct 10 02:10:59 As with anything unofficial, there is always a risk that you will screw your device up. Oct 10 02:11:00 Or just havent paid attention Oct 10 02:11:10 I'm very familiar with this notion coming from the iOS dev community. Oct 10 02:11:23 neither have I... sounds like medical problem Oct 10 02:11:33 the question is whether or not you are willing to take that risk. Oct 10 02:13:40 and do so without RMA'ing it ;) Oct 10 02:14:27 But RMA with Palm is so much fun, why would you not want to do it? Oct 10 02:14:47 lmao Oct 10 02:16:39 And I speak from experience, its so much fun I'll jump off a bridge if it ever happens again Oct 10 02:17:05 I had to RMA my original pre because the keyboard would quit working unless I slapped it... It was obviously just a lose ribbon cable. I was so damn tempted to take it apart and fix it myself Oct 10 02:23:18 rwhitby: when do you fly out ? Oct 10 02:23:34 Thursday night Oct 10 02:25:21 where are you going Oct 10 02:26:03 question of curiosity, and a quick google did not turn up an answer on the first couple pages .. what kernel version does webOS 3 use? Oct 10 02:26:48 2.6.35 Oct 10 02:26:49 rwhitby: sorry let me rephrase, when do you fly in ? :) Oct 10 02:30:15 bhuey: I'm in San Jose now Oct 10 02:35:29 how do I auto tab in the pre? Oct 10 02:37:44 :) Oct 10 02:47:10 actionfigure_: in wIRC? gesture+orange IIRC? Oct 10 02:47:29 wirc Oct 10 02:47:32 well, meta, the orange / white button Oct 10 02:49:13 while holding down gesture area Oct 10 02:49:40 destinal wirc Oct 10 02:51:03 actionfigure_: I told you how to do it... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 10 02:59:57 2011