**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 10 02:59:57 2011 Oct 10 03:00:19 destinal: thanks :) Oct 10 03:01:04 destinal: just testing :) Oct 10 03:03:22 actionfigure_: ah, working? awesome Oct 10 03:03:56 destinal: thanks it helps a lot Oct 10 03:09:11 dtzWill: ping? are you xecutah or just xserver/xterm? Oct 10 03:51:01 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?5682-Build-Progress-Updated-10-9 Oct 10 03:51:05 Updated :D Oct 10 03:51:50 "webOS 3.0.4 may have HDMI support, and if so we can reverse engineer the process, stay tuned" interesting Oct 10 03:53:01 msm_rotator was fixed long ago Oct 10 03:53:36 audio works on bt if it a2dp Oct 10 03:53:51 screen is blank for much less seconds Oct 10 03:58:05 a2dp is over hci on most of these Oct 10 03:58:11 only sco is pcm from the a6 Oct 10 03:58:27 (these being qct devices, not webos qct devices) Oct 10 04:01:15 PatrickC_Away: mostly on the xserver side, although dabble a bit in xecutah :) Oct 10 04:06:08 dtzWill: well.. I'm having issues with the new way of launching things (or so it seems) Oct 10 04:06:20 but looks like it might be a ext3fs problem Oct 10 04:06:34 looking into it more Oct 10 04:07:11 kk, often helps to ask the channel not just select people. at least when that person is me and i'm about to step out O:) Oct 10 04:07:17 gl sir ^.^ Oct 10 04:07:39 lol ok Oct 10 04:08:08 well.. have you ever seen it when, say, I click the "launch ubuntu" button. it starts xserver, flashes the ubuntu on the screen, then goes back to the blank xserver? Oct 10 04:08:10 ok thanks Oct 10 04:08:35 PatrickC: sure, the chroot failed. Oct 10 04:08:43 given you previous comment i'm guessing the ext32 failed Oct 10 04:08:49 *ext3fs isn't mounted Oct 10 04:08:59 hmm.. that might be Oct 10 04:09:02 lemme check Oct 10 04:09:53 nope.. its mounted in the fstab it looks like Oct 10 04:10:04 is /etc/fstab suppose to be readonly? Oct 10 04:10:40 well adding in fstab doesn't make it mounted, unless it's set to mount on boot (should be) and you rebooted Oct 10 04:10:48 just run 'mount' and check if it's mounted? Oct 10 04:11:08 hmm.. was able to get some output from the ubuntu Oct 10 04:11:18 getting screenshot before it disapears Oct 10 04:12:56 http://www.box.net/shared/h2073bg9hd3j6pne26df Oct 10 04:15:51 PatrickC: mount|grep ext3fs Oct 10 04:15:55 proc, sys, bin, and a ton of other directories are missing it looks like Oct 10 04:16:34 /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs on /media/ext3fs type ext3 Oct 10 04:16:39 PatrickC: more likely that a)underlying ext3fs isn't mounted at all, b)some interaction of partition creation and the ubuntu installation via preware (unexpected ordering, maybe?) resulted in the chroot not being dropped onto the newly mounted ext3fs partition Oct 10 04:17:01 hmm... Oct 10 04:17:15 dtzWill: its mounted Oct 10 04:17:30 when I did the grep command, it gave me that (and a little more) Oct 10 04:17:35 okay, you just said that you had an entry in /etc/fstab, which isn't the same thing. Oct 10 04:18:00 the little more was (rw,noatime,errors=continue,barrier=0,data=writeback) Oct 10 04:18:12 I just did the grep when you suggested it Oct 10 04:18:20 okay does "ls /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/" show anything? Oct 10 04:18:23 PatrickC: (kk, sorry :)) Oct 10 04:18:55 it has dev, home, media, tmp Oct 10 04:18:55 :) Oct 10 04:19:02 lol! Oct 10 04:19:06 well okay ._. Oct 10 04:19:28 the chroot, uh, should have lots more than that -.- Oct 10 04:19:41 that's what I thought Oct 10 04:19:42 offhand can't think of fialure mode that'd produce what you're seeing Oct 10 04:20:05 I've uninstalled/reinstalled multiple times Oct 10 04:20:09 rebooting in between Oct 10 04:20:14 and just recently doctored Oct 10 04:20:18 well Oct 10 04:20:22 i'm not sure what removing the chroot does Oct 10 04:20:26 does it actually nuke the files? Oct 10 04:20:32 idk Oct 10 04:20:51 I was thinking of nuking the entire ext3fs partition and starting over Oct 10 04:20:58 there's nothing on it Oct 10 04:21:03 i'd remove the ubuntu package Oct 10 04:21:18 rm /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot -rf Oct 10 04:21:20 (carefully) Oct 10 04:21:20 ok Oct 10 04:21:23 and re-install the chroot Oct 10 04:21:39 i think we probably err on /not/ deleting the chroot, not sure. Oct 10 04:21:43 ok Oct 10 04:21:54 yep Oct 10 04:22:03 we don't remove the install chroot, ever, afaict Oct 10 04:22:07 so reinstalling doesn't do anything :( Oct 10 04:22:09 1 second.. something seems fishy... Oct 10 04:22:15 mkay Oct 10 04:22:17 bbiab, gl Oct 10 04:22:20 ok nvm Oct 10 04:22:23 false alarm Oct 10 04:22:25 ok, thanks! Oct 10 04:26:56 when adding a new feed it tells me that I can't bc its obsolete. How do I fix this Oct 10 04:27:23 what feed? Oct 10 04:27:34 cali2424: read the instructions Oct 10 04:27:40 and where does it say that its obsolete? Oct 10 04:27:46 hey SineOt Oct 10 04:30:59 I'm new to preware and just wondering if you guys could help me Oct 10 04:31:15 cali2424: what instructions are you following? Oct 10 04:31:28 then we need the feed you are trying to add Oct 10 04:31:33 and what SineOt said :) Oct 10 04:34:17 Name: webos-testing-all URL: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/all Oct 10 04:35:04 read the part in preware where it says the package is obsolete Oct 10 04:35:04 and where did you get that link? Oct 10 04:36:05 opinionnativereviewer.com is where I got it Oct 10 04:36:29 well, that feed *is* obsolete Oct 10 04:36:53 follow the instructions Oct 10 04:37:39 dtzWill: after deleting the ubuntu-natty-chroot folder, and reinstalling, working perfectly! thanks!! Oct 10 04:37:58 cali2424: where are u Oct 10 04:37:58 cali2424: complain at them for not updating the article and for being part of the problem to begin with Oct 10 04:38:20 I'm off to bed guys. night Oct 10 04:38:32 cali2424: they should have updated the article to point you to testing.preware.org Oct 10 04:38:50 cali2424: and be sure to actually read all the instructions and warnings Oct 10 04:40:11 it says the instruction you are following are obsolete Oct 10 04:42:03 cali2424: yeah, because the ones on opinionnativereviewer is obsolete Oct 10 04:42:47 oh ok. So what do I have to do now Oct 10 04:43:19 read testing.preware.org and absorb its message Oct 10 05:58:25 19.2... that is ze magic number Oct 10 06:12:37 kbps? Oct 10 06:14:02 73*19.2=1401.6 Oct 10 06:33:28 Stuck at work trying to install preware for a buddy... can't update java... and can't install novacom drivers. Anyother way to install preware? Oct 10 06:37:36 http://get.preware.org/ Oct 10 06:41:54 dannoz: not really, not without novacom. you could use a Linux VM in virtualbox or something and install novacom drivers there.. Oct 10 06:41:54 Thanks anyway... looks like without the ability to install novacom drivers... I'm SOL for the moment Oct 10 06:42:41 I'll see if I can install virtualbox Oct 10 06:44:07 dannoz: yeah if you can then you can connect the pre to a virtual usb port with vbox's usb mapping stuff Oct 10 06:44:52 s/the pre/whatever webos device/ Oct 10 06:44:52 destinal meant: dannoz: yeah if you can then you can connect whatever webos device to a virtual usb port with vbox's usb mapping stuff Oct 10 06:44:55 :) Oct 10 06:45:12 cool Oct 10 06:45:24 May just bring a laptop tomorow night Oct 10 06:46:42 yeah, I've been meaning to see if there are any clever ways to install preware from on-device if devmode is enabled, especially now that we have flash, but haven't found the time Oct 10 06:46:58 I'm sure it would be considered a security hole and everyone would be up in arms of course :) Oct 10 06:47:13 I haven't found anything... I need preware to get to shell... or I need novacom drivers to install preware Oct 10 06:48:27 yeah, basically someone could potentially write a flash application that connects to the novacom TCP port on localhost and speaks the novacom protocol that way, I think, then sends commands, but I haven't tested the theory and obviously it's non trivial amounts of development Oct 10 06:48:46 mainly since novacom's protocol is tricky and I know almost no flash Oct 10 06:49:14 and even then, no idea if it would work Oct 10 06:50:07 may be easier to write something to crack the cryptofs over usb from a PC and have it perform the install Oct 10 06:50:59 either way just installing novacom from doctor or SDK is so much easier :) Oct 10 06:51:16 agreed... guess he'll have to wait a few hours ;) Oct 10 06:51:22 thx for the help Oct 10 07:04:57 hmm, do devices purchased from hp (non-firesale) have a warranty? more directly, would such a warranty cover a screen shattered by dropping it? :3 Oct 10 07:05:50 I would assume the warranty would be there still Oct 10 07:05:59 What device did you drop? Oct 10 07:06:49 a veer Oct 10 07:07:25 incidentally, took case off my touchpad for first time in....pretty much since i purchased it, and it's suffering from cracking by speakers. lame, but not as pressing as the veer's issue, heh Oct 10 07:07:57 When you send in your veer, make sure it's going to the right place Oct 10 07:08:25 well it comes with limited warranty according to what came in the box; seems doesn't include cracked LCD Oct 10 07:08:31 Cupport sent me an email of instructions and the address to send it to....it was the wrong one Oct 10 07:08:33 Ouch Oct 10 07:08:42 might call hp regardless and see what's up, shrug Oct 10 07:08:56 kinda feel like since they don't make them anymore they'd be less than inclined to field repair requests anyway Oct 10 07:08:56 xD Oct 10 07:09:22 I sent mine in for a cluster of dead/stuck pixels Oct 10 07:10:33 One day I might get it back Oct 10 07:12:12 :(:( Oct 10 07:12:42 Yeah, needless to say they have the worst support ever Oct 10 07:12:52 quite uncommon for warranty to cover dropping by customer Oct 10 07:14:30 yeah, i never have really checked before Oct 10 07:14:38 never broken a device thusly for Oct 10 07:14:44 and still haven't ;) but now someone i konw has heh Oct 10 07:14:53 dtzWill, I did end up getting kismet packaged up Oct 10 07:15:29 excellent! Oct 10 07:16:03 is there pictures anywhere of the cracks? is it like blatantly just cracking out at the bottom? or on the speakers Oct 10 07:16:08 i read about the problem, mine hasn't had it yet Oct 10 07:16:24 and i usually take it in/out of the case and do whatever with it..haven't been too careful but now thats on my mind when i mess with it lol Oct 10 07:16:33 I'm just running into issues with host mode or else I could have tested it Oct 10 07:16:36 since apparently hp isn't replacing them anymore Oct 10 07:17:25 Need to make a aftermarket carbon fiber replacement Oct 10 07:18:01 Log1x: heh, yeah there were pics on p|c i think previously...haven't looked into it since just noticed mine and crazy messed up veer got attention priority :) Oct 10 07:20:52 =[ Oct 10 07:21:59 bah, why didn't i save the tokens for the att device i gutted all that time ago.... >.< Oct 10 07:22:30 destinal: afaik, flash can't send arbitrary data to any port... Oct 10 07:22:38 would be good short-term replacement for busted veer, but don't have tokens x.x Oct 10 07:22:51 I was evaluating flash-based irc clients some time ago, and they all needed a gateway running on a server Oct 10 07:30:33 lol i can just steal the screen from the pixi, right guys? right? xD Oct 10 07:30:52 dtzWill: is there any sdl-based application for tp with gesture recongition? Oct 10 07:31:09 LunohoD: not that i'm aware of; if you find one and remember please let me know :) Oct 10 07:31:41 ;) Oct 10 07:34:50 hm, there is gesture support in SDL, but it's not included in the WebOS build Oct 10 07:36:38 yeah, downside to a general library like SDL as what we dev against versus like what's provided on other platforms Oct 10 07:44:44 dwc-: hmm, bummer, I thought they could Oct 10 07:45:28 Log1x: uh, they're not replacing them? What about factory warranty? Oct 10 07:45:54 I don't think you can just not replace them Oct 10 07:51:04 for the cracks, apparently not anymore according to people on precentral/xda Oct 10 07:55:08 Log1x: from what I read those are a manufacturing defect, I think HP could end up in some big trouble here.. Oct 10 08:07:32 anyone have luck pairing a PS3 controller to the TP? android can do it Oct 10 08:51:26 hi Oct 10 08:51:40 how to acces networks disks and play media from there ? Oct 10 09:18:26 what should I choose for my pdf viewer, OPENGL or SWSURFACE? Oct 10 09:19:24 i've read that direct memcpy to the framebuffer could be faster than uploading the texture Oct 10 09:20:00 but stretching and moving the image should be faster with opengl, imho Oct 10 09:23:20 LunohoD: the exact two comments i would make, and you are seeing your limitations Oct 10 09:23:28 i would say opengl Oct 10 09:23:31 pdf's are ratthherrr static content Oct 10 09:24:59 but in general blitting straight to fb is much faster Oct 10 09:25:43 that said, last time i benchmarked it (~1.4.5, biased by the limitations of my implementation which especially given my newness at the time are..probably significant) sending as texture and then rendering /that/ was faster Oct 10 09:26:08 but i suspect that's because i had a large non-blitting cpu load as well, and so async was goodness. Oct 10 09:26:19 (as you can tell, never bothered to isolate exactly why) Oct 10 09:26:43 however, if you mmap the framebuffer and memcpy right onto it (like what it seems yuo were suggesting) that's the fastest i've been able to get Oct 10 09:27:09 that said, i'm unclear as to why you'd be super concerned about blitting speed anyway, but i've never implemented a pdf viewer before :) Oct 10 09:27:53 (naively it seems uploading the pdf as textures (w/mipmaps or whatever) and just letting gl do all the work seems the easiest) Oct 10 09:28:30 oh dear god i overanswered your question something fierce. i blame the time of night (4:30am local) Oct 10 09:28:38 ;) Oct 10 09:29:12 not that mmap'ing the fb is not in any capacity supported and i don't think would be allowed in the app cat (haven't checked though?) Oct 10 09:29:26 but if you go that route ping me because misc things i've played with there might be useful Oct 10 09:29:59 no samba client for touchpad ??? Oct 10 09:30:01 anyway, the only other concern is plain sdl is a lot easier for basic things than opengl Oct 10 09:30:08 and that can be a significant factor hehe :) Oct 10 09:30:46 Douilspee: nopes, but if you're so inclined/ambitious various kernels from preware support it, coupled with misc userspace tools installed from...well i don't remember. Oct 10 09:30:58 would be slick if someone wrapped that up neatly into a nice touchpad interface :D Oct 10 09:31:24 dtzWill: uberkernel is the only anwser on preware for samba and cifs Oct 10 09:31:35 yep, there's your kernel support Oct 10 09:31:44 as for userspace tools.. i don't know. might be in optware? Oct 10 09:31:49 ty for info i'll search on google instead of app manager/preware :) Oct 10 09:32:05 search order: preware, irc, google Oct 10 09:32:05 ;) Oct 10 09:32:16 ya :) Oct 10 09:35:53 http://www.aeonity.com/frost/setup-network-streaming-hp-touchpad with chroot Oct 10 09:41:35 lol what: "sshfs yields much better performance over samba" Oct 10 09:41:35 :( Oct 10 09:41:43 what is going wrong there Oct 10 09:42:03 if i had to guess, different prefetching defaults Oct 10 09:42:24 huh. crazy. Oct 10 09:42:44 and touchplayer used there--that... can't take advantage of gpu-accel'd decoding, right? Oct 10 09:43:09 yeah Oct 10 09:43:15 ffmpeg wrapper Oct 10 09:43:17 i don't know what touchplayer is Oct 10 09:43:18 ah Oct 10 09:43:20 good to have, though Oct 10 09:53:57 LWJGL 2.8.0 released yesterday: http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4222.0.html Oct 10 09:54:21 contains opengl-es support, kinda Oct 10 09:54:37 but might be good for those java-based 3d applications >_> <_< :) Oct 10 09:55:34 oh, apparently http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Minecraft is way ahead of me on that front anyway. whoopsy Oct 10 09:56:07 hope it's not blocking on GLX x11 support >_> xD Oct 10 12:51:38 Douilspee: it should work without a chroot. sshfs is in beta feeds on Preware. So you only need a terminal Oct 10 12:52:14 i mhi Oct 10 12:52:17 hi Oct 10 12:52:46 ok i'mm test beta Oct 10 12:52:50 dtzWill: No sleep tonight ? Oct 10 12:53:15 -mm + ll Oct 10 12:53:43 Douilspee: I have to thank you. I had no idea that sshfs exists. Nice why to get a connect to the server for file access Oct 10 12:53:54 np Oct 10 12:54:05 I still used scp Oct 10 12:54:14 until now ;-) Oct 10 13:00:18 &j \iphone Oct 10 13:09:27 technikfreak: ? Oct 10 13:10:24 haha i am a german use rbut the irc client is on a server which has an english keyboard layout Oct 10 13:10:49 instead of /.... i maked &..... Oct 10 13:21:01 US layout is superior Oct 10 13:40:26 Hey guys, how would you go about adding an option to bring up the TouchPad's virtual keyboard within an application (besides a textbox) Oct 10 13:55:11 anyone run the ubuntu chroot on their pre/pre2/pre3? Oct 10 13:55:23 wondering if its worth it yet.. Oct 10 14:14:46 hi. does the WIDK deals with pre 2 device ? Oct 10 14:15:21 as doawnloaded doctors does note mention the one for pre2? Oct 10 14:16:13 Plus, is it forced to install the WIDK in /srv ? can it be put somewhere else ? Oct 10 14:23:50 no one ? Oct 10 14:56:39 hi. Say, is the path "/media/internal/appdata/com.company.myapp" a safe and robust way to offer data to USB drive? Oct 10 15:24:44 how can I start a program from the ssh with the user of the webos interface? Oct 10 20:06:32 hmm. Oct 10 20:06:48 I wish the keyboard had .gov in the list of the popup when you hold the .com virtual key :( Oct 10 20:06:53 is that easy to fix? Oct 10 20:07:56 * dwc- just learned something new :P Oct 10 20:08:11 ? Oct 10 20:08:17 that you could hold down that key Oct 10 20:08:20 oh heh Oct 10 20:08:23 it's very handy :) Oct 10 20:08:30 but I go to .gov sites a lot Oct 10 20:08:33 I see the one on the left is also holdable Oct 10 20:08:37 it'd rock to be extra lazy Oct 10 20:08:53 oh, TIL you can hold that key, too. Oct 10 20:09:25 wow. same with the punctuation near by... and ltos of other keys Oct 10 20:10:01 I knew about the others... I think when I learned about holding the keys down, it was in a non-browser type app so there was no .com etc Oct 10 20:10:07 any of the ones with the "..." Oct 10 20:10:16 hold down any one of them and then you see the elipsis on it if it has exta ones. Oct 10 20:10:20 didn't know that. Oct 10 21:32:05 do we have to install the WIDK in /srv ? can it be put somewhere else ? Oct 10 21:32:34 Should be fine anywhere Oct 10 21:39:18 anyone get Adobe Air working on the ubuntu chroot? Oct 10 21:47:09 PatrickC: i highly doubt it Oct 10 21:47:17 why not? Oct 10 21:49:44 because i don't they theres a arm build for linux Oct 10 21:49:57 ah.. forgot about the arm build Oct 10 21:56:50 can CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 be modified on the pre 3 running webos 2.2.0 ? Oct 10 21:58:37 I have no pre3 running 2.2.0, but ...what do you need to modify? Oct 10 21:59:14 the APN/MMS settings should be changeable in the UI Oct 10 22:01:33 i am trying to get 3g connectivity with speakout wireless in canada Oct 10 22:01:57 do you know what settings to use? Oct 10 22:02:04 i entered the apn settings into the UI.. but it says invalid apn setings Oct 10 22:02:22 yes Oct 10 22:03:23 apn: goam.com / user: wapuser1 / pw: wap / proxy: 10.128.1.69 / port: 80 Oct 10 22:04:07 where are you from dwc ? Oct 10 22:04:38 the US Oct 10 22:05:06 I've adjusted my APN settings on tmobile and it's worked mostly fine, but sometimes it seems a little finicky about taking the manual settings Oct 10 22:05:11 even though I know they're right Oct 10 22:05:51 if its a uk pre3 then theres also the whole 900/850mhz thing Oct 10 22:06:32 dwc, did you adjust in gui or did you have manually edit a file ? Oct 10 22:06:35 gui Oct 10 22:06:43 every time I've reset the phone Oct 10 22:07:01 when it asks, you can try "use these settings anyways" and reboot or something and see if it works Oct 10 22:07:52 failing that, I might suggest asking about the correct settings on howardforums, they people there are generally pretty knowledgeable about that sort of thing Oct 10 22:08:12 i am wondering if the problem is the proxy Oct 10 22:09:43 http://digitalunlock.com/webos/carrierdb/index.html Oct 10 22:10:03 it is a carrierb.json generator for the hp veer Oct 10 22:11:12 * dwc- knows not what all those settings should be Oct 10 22:12:22 tmobile is a popular carrier choice for the pre3 Oct 10 22:12:31 do they have the best plans ? Oct 10 22:12:45 heh Oct 10 22:18:06 last night i tried to touch a website to share between my pre3 and tpad, but i couldn't get it connected Oct 10 22:18:16 i was drunk.. and almost broke my touchpad glass trying Oct 10 22:21:15 i was drinking for the tragedy of palm and webos Oct 10 23:38:56 qsfoak: hahah Oct 11 00:07:12 is there any homebrew way to add AWS 1700 / 2100 band to the pre 3 ? Oct 11 00:08:20 no Oct 11 00:08:23 that's hardware Oct 11 00:08:36 if your chip does not support those band for 3G there's nothing you can do Oct 11 00:09:04 otherwise i'd bought the tmo g2 for cheap instead of getting bell canada's DZ for 200 more :( Oct 11 00:12:44 here in canada the price of tmo g2 > bell g2 b/c everyone wants a cheap mobile plan on an aws network Oct 11 00:49:11 time to turn the pre2 into an ubuntu machine lol Oct 11 01:01:42 I just got my new touchpad, and tried to put Ubuntu on it. I got through the process pretty easily, but is there any reason why Xecutah doesn't give me an option to start XServer? Oct 11 01:01:55 I've installed XServer on it, and Xecutah. Oct 11 01:02:13 I tried uninstalling and reinstalling both. I even did a full erase of my tp. No joy :( Oct 11 01:04:57 Is this the wrong channel to be posting about this? Or is nobody online? Oct 11 01:08:27 parachute-hptp: Hello? Oct 11 01:08:36 Xserver *is* running. Oct 11 01:08:43 xterm is running inside of it. Oct 11 01:08:52 xterm > needx xserver running. Oct 11 01:09:07 i don't believe we require manually starting the xserver any longer. Oct 11 01:09:41 so you can just tap on xterm Oct 11 01:09:54 or the ubuntu chroot--if xterm works and chroot fails make sure you've read/followed the wiki insrtuctions properly :) Oct 11 01:10:01 parachute-hptp: ^^ :) Oct 11 01:11:07 Oh. So I don't need a separate XServer card to run any of the window managers? Oct 11 01:15:15 :) Oct 11 01:15:34 you do, but it'll be started for you when you do anything that needs it Oct 11 01:16:08 I just ran startlxde. This is beyond cool. :D Oct 11 01:16:12 Thank you! Oct 11 01:16:15 :) Oct 11 01:17:04 I have openbox on my system Oct 11 01:25:38 lxde/debian FTW Oct 11 01:25:48 In am image ofc. Oct 11 02:14:58 dtzWill: the fix you suggested worked! :) Oct 11 02:15:06 PatrickC: :D Oct 11 02:15:17 i don't remember what fix or the problem, but good to hear ^.^ Oct 11 02:15:24 I now have the sdk, and a full dev environment set up :) Oct 11 02:15:25 your chroot/ext3fs problem, i tihnk? Oct 11 02:15:29 yep Oct 11 02:15:30 haha awesome! :D Oct 11 02:15:48 sdk was easy. just had to get around the arch problem lol Oct 11 02:17:29 mmm Jack in the Box Oct 11 02:17:44 never been there Oct 11 02:17:48 what Oct 11 02:17:51 had friends work there though lol Oct 11 02:17:59 wtf Oct 11 02:18:00 you are dead to me Oct 11 02:18:34 you were never alive to me in the first place, so I cant say the same PatrickC Oct 11 02:18:47 umm.. what? lol Oct 11 02:19:01 halfhalo said you were dead to him. I didn't say that lol Oct 11 02:19:10 i guess you're even deader to me now Oct 11 02:19:15 lol Oct 11 02:19:25 i meant you are dead to me PatrickC, not the other non dead guys Oct 11 02:19:42 ah ok Oct 11 02:19:46 now I get it lol Oct 11 02:19:50 like, you came back as a zombie and i shot you in the head Oct 11 02:20:49 I'm guessing they are good? Oct 11 02:22:31 Yeah Oct 11 02:22:38 I get their tacos most of the time Oct 11 02:22:49 aka grease to go? Oct 11 02:23:01 Yeah Oct 11 02:23:05 you go to jack in the box for the tacos? Oct 11 02:23:29 do you go to taco bell for the burgers too? Oct 11 02:23:40 grease covered meat/soy substitute Oct 11 02:24:18 i get bean burritos at taco bell :P Oct 11 02:24:40 so do I... until I saw the calorie count Oct 11 02:24:51 its like 300 per burrito Oct 11 02:25:06 Well, damn, im screwed Oct 11 02:25:07 lol Oct 11 02:25:56 yeah, once I stopped getting taco bell once a week I dropped like 5 pounds instantly Oct 11 02:26:05 lol Oct 11 02:26:28 how many burritos did you usually get? Oct 11 02:26:42 2 or 3. depends if i got breakfast Oct 11 02:26:51 well damn Oct 11 02:27:51 * PatrickC wonders if this could get more OT? lol Oct 11 02:28:19 Yes, yes it could Oct 11 02:28:25 lol Oct 11 02:28:31 example: phistatio's. Oct 11 02:28:37 ANYWHO, back to ontopicness Oct 11 02:28:41 19.2*73 Oct 11 02:29:34 betcha don't know where that comes from. Oct 11 02:31:37 and if you do, you get a cookie Oct 11 02:32:29 main clock frequency times multiplier for PLL ? Oct 11 02:33:47 dammit Oct 11 02:33:57 yes Oct 11 02:34:14 19.2 gave it away - very common comms crystal frequency Oct 11 02:34:38 tis for the pre3 Oct 11 02:34:54 very nice Oct 11 02:35:01 which is weird in that 1.2GHz is not calculated like that, but instead 125*19.2/2 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 11 02:59:57 2011