**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 15 02:59:56 2011 Oct 15 04:25:05 :) Oct 15 04:25:49 hi Oct 15 04:26:23 wrea: hello Oct 15 04:33:50 hmmm Oct 15 04:42:59 so what's going on Oct 15 05:30:34 anyone upgrade to 2.0? Oct 15 05:36:38 o.0 Oct 15 05:42:11 2.0 of Windows? 2.0 of Android, 2.0 of Wife? Oct 15 05:42:42 ka6sox: 2.0 of Life Oct 15 05:43:23 ashi_: I slept rather than coded on the flight home. nothing new. Oct 15 05:45:47 just wondering, is usb on the go supposed to work out of the box on a touchpad? Oct 15 05:46:02 i thought i had heard something of that sort but no dice Oct 15 05:48:19 works best with a powered hub afaik Oct 15 05:53:53 ah Oct 15 05:54:02 so does the touchpad provide any power at all? Oct 15 05:54:18 i imagine even for say a mouse or a keyboard it needs some small amount of power Oct 15 05:55:07 none, zip, zilch. Oct 15 05:55:11 I think its 8mA @ 5V Oct 15 05:55:26 oh, well then Oct 15 05:55:36 I saw the 8ma a few times Oct 15 05:55:40 oh Oct 15 05:55:56 wrea: maybe. not enough for something to enumerate Oct 15 05:55:58 wrea? Oct 15 05:56:00 hmm i should be able to poke at it with a multimeter huh? Oct 15 05:56:05 I seriously doubt it. Oct 15 05:56:24 since the kernel code knows NOTHING about how to do that. Oct 15 05:56:25 im just curious about how usb on the go is generally supposed to work Oct 15 05:57:14 it seems to me that we're very close to phones/tablets replacing computers for 99% of tasks if they would just put usb host and hdmi out on everything Oct 15 05:57:16 :) Oct 15 05:57:30 IbrahimA, it turns out that the OTG spec is online and FREE to download. Oct 15 05:57:34 ooh Oct 15 05:57:38 lol ok Oct 15 05:57:52 IbrahimA, well...a lot of them are pay. Oct 15 05:57:53 well, there's still that small matter of battery life ... Oct 15 05:58:09 for all intents and purposes...it doesn't Oct 15 05:58:14 i was just asking because i saw a tweet a while back about usb host on the touchpad Oct 15 05:58:18 yeah i know a lot of specs are for pay Oct 15 05:58:27 (at least with the kernels we have access to) Oct 15 05:58:55 mm well my touchpad definitely has better battery life than my laptop Oct 15 05:58:58 we would need more information on the registers in the APQ8060 than we have access to. Oct 15 05:59:24 ah Oct 15 05:59:45 its possible I could find a kernel for something with a MSM8660 and try to shoehorn that in. Oct 15 06:00:01 (that supplies power) Oct 15 06:00:59 all references to OTG_5V in our kernel lead to the device looking at it as a "charger" not as a supplier of said voltage. Oct 15 06:01:37 ie: when present hook up to 8903 charger and put charger in correct mode. Oct 15 06:02:39 its possible that the PMIC can supply the current...but we don't have access to the correct register settings to make that happen. Oct 15 06:03:32 I should find out if any of the MSM86XX boards have that in their boardfiles. Oct 15 06:05:25 IbrahimA, I have an external hub that supplies power *back* to the TP. Oct 15 06:05:56 ah Oct 15 06:06:08 yeah to be honest if it doesn't work in a simple manner i dont really care :/ Oct 15 06:06:33 dont have the time to mess with this stuff and i dont use the touchpad much, mostly my sister Oct 15 06:10:12 thanks for the enlightenment though Oct 15 06:11:59 yw Oct 15 06:12:01 I need to pick up a powered hub off of ebay Oct 15 06:14:01 Done :P Oct 15 06:16:17 rwhitby: welcome home Oct 15 06:16:27 looks like you had a safe flight Oct 15 06:17:19 bhuey: yep, smooth as butter Oct 15 06:40:04 hello? Oct 15 06:40:16 ?olleh Oct 15 06:40:35 how do you uninstall preware? Oct 15 06:42:26 go into the installed packages list in preware and uninstall itself. Oct 15 06:43:20 (as noted in the Preware doc at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware#Removing_Preware) Oct 15 08:30:48 rwhitby: glad your flight was good and restful. :) Oct 15 08:30:50 good night. Oct 15 11:05:49 it's good for the touchpad battery to put on touchstone at every value of the battery? and also leve it on the touchstone for a long time ??? Oct 15 11:32:22 I hope someone can help me out. I bought a AT&T PRE 3 from USA and the seller told me that the unit can be unlocked [using a unlock website], but when I paid (to 2 sites) and sent my IMEI through, they both failed to send me an unlock code. I contacted ATT in the US and they said this phone can't be unlocked by them I should contact "someone" to unlock it.. Oct 15 11:32:36 Is there anyway to unlock a phone using webos doctor or similar ? Oct 15 11:32:51 no Oct 15 11:33:08 you went to the wrong sites Oct 15 11:33:12 digitalunlock.com Oct 15 11:52:32 Hey Oct 15 11:52:58 I seem to have broken something in the partition table as webos doctor fails at 12% on my TouchPad Oct 15 11:53:56 Here's the webOS Doctor log: http://pastebin.com/U7AMK3ZZ Oct 15 11:54:04 If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it Oct 15 11:55:31 maxexcloo: have you installed android on it at any time? Oct 15 11:55:44 I did Oct 15 11:56:06 I also resized some partitions with MetaDoctor Oct 15 11:56:14 But nothing major Oct 15 11:56:37 Well maybe, I am a bit of an idiot :\ Oct 15 11:57:19 best to ask the android folks how to reverse that then Oct 15 11:57:36 Which channel do they hang out in? Oct 15 11:57:45 If you don't mind me asking Oct 15 11:58:11 dunno Oct 15 11:58:18 should be in their README Oct 15 11:58:30 note that you seem to have lots too many logical volumes Oct 15 11:58:51 16 vs 8 Oct 15 11:59:20 +rwhitby the test unlock doesnt work.. from digitalunlock.com Oct 15 11:59:27 I'm actually not sure why it's like that Oct 15 11:59:40 GuyFawkes: it's worked for us on 4 AT&T Pre 3 devices Oct 15 11:59:43 Because I can only see 8 when I do an lvm listing Oct 15 12:00:18 Looking at the way it seems to work it seems to be similar to webosdoctor [i.e. putting phone into recovery etc]. Oct 15 12:00:19 GuyFawkes: so contact their support address. note that the test doesn't actually unlock anything Oct 15 12:00:40 Surprised that no body has bothered to figure out how it works.. Oct 15 12:01:06 the effort to do so would cost someone far more in time spent than the cost of an unlock Oct 15 12:01:08 I guess there are not that many interested parties unlike iPhone. Oct 15 12:01:20 you're talking hundreds of man-hours Oct 15 12:01:40 $40 for an unlock is about one hour of work Oct 15 12:02:09 the people who have invested the time to figure out how it works are the people selling the unlock Oct 15 12:02:59 how many AT&T Pre 3 unlocks do you think they will be able to sell? 100? 200? 500? 1000? Oct 15 12:03:11 :-) Oct 15 12:03:22 I would guess less than 200 Oct 15 12:04:06 hence the price compared to an iPhone solution selling millions Oct 15 12:04:41 * rwhitby bbl Oct 15 12:12:37 Well anyway the way it seems to work is to retrieve a patched version of mantaray UMTS modem file from their server based on the retrieved identifier from the phone. Then the patched version is loaded onto a restore image and the firmware is flashed. Oct 15 13:07:22 hi there, i managed to compile unison (the file synchronizer) for the touchpad. as i now can sync easily via sshd + unison i thought it might be useful to make a preware package of it, so anyone might install it easily. but i can't find a manual how to make an ipkg file nor where to submit it. Oct 15 13:14:29 Does anyone know if I can resize partitions other than var and swap with MetaDoctor? Oct 15 13:15:38 you can resize them from within the device Oct 15 13:16:25 I know Oct 15 13:16:26 maxexcloo: if you have access to the system (e.g. via novaterm) you can use webos' tools Oct 15 13:16:31 ah, ok^^ Oct 15 13:16:38 But it would be easier to do with metadoctor I think Oct 15 13:16:49 That way if I ever had to reinstall it would be done magically :P Oct 15 13:17:03 Rather then me fiddling around with it Oct 15 13:21:34 Great sucess! Oct 15 13:21:53 I fixed my OCD by making partitions add up to 1 GB :D Oct 15 18:14:01 :) Oct 15 18:14:19 actionfigure: :) Oct 15 18:14:21 anyone updated from 1.4.5 to 2.1? on the pre+ Oct 15 18:14:48 pc-world: hiya...do you have 2.1? Oct 15 18:14:49 actionfigure: did on the Pre-, shouldn't be a real difference Oct 15 18:15:29 so the 2.1 is not worth it? Oct 15 18:16:02 actionfigure: I meant it shouldn't be a real difference if you upgrade a Pre Minus or Pre Plus to 2.1 ;) Oct 15 18:16:02 i see that it looks pretty much the same but i cant install some apps on preware since it says i have to have 2.0 o_O Oct 15 18:16:14 oh Oct 15 18:16:34 actionfigure: I have a Pre 2 now and would never want to go back to 1.4.5 Oct 15 18:16:59 oh ok Oct 15 18:17:04 well i want to update it :) Oct 15 18:17:14 but i do need a little help Oct 15 18:17:18 im on here http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#Pre_Plus_5 Oct 15 18:17:37 What device do you have? Oct 15 18:17:39 but then i click the pre+ is says 1.4.5 version Oct 15 18:17:43 pre + att Oct 15 18:17:58 actionfigure: That's where you're right: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade Oct 15 18:18:12 actionfigure: (webOS 2 isn't officially supported for your device) Oct 15 18:18:47 yeah but ive seen people have the 2.1 on there pre+ Oct 15 18:18:54 i have gonvah oc Oct 15 18:19:25 yes, and the wiki page I sent you describes how you put webOS 2 on your device Oct 15 18:19:58 pc-world: thank you :) Oct 15 18:40:25 could someone point me to the chroot directions...i can not for the life of me find them on the wiki page and ive seen them before Oct 15 18:43:05 nm...the quickest wayt to find something is to quit looking for it :) Oct 15 19:18:51 i updated to 2.1 on my pre+ but i cant log in my profile.....anyone? Oct 15 19:19:28 actionfigure: Did you use meta-doctor to upgrade? With the proper webOS2-upgrade script? Oct 15 19:19:37 i disabled by backup like it said Oct 15 19:19:41 yes Oct 15 19:19:48 i followed the directions Oct 15 19:19:57 i have a data plan too Oct 15 19:20:06 any error message from webOS? Oct 15 19:20:10 even though the wireless icon is showing up on top Oct 15 19:20:14 i didnt see any Oct 15 19:20:19 let me check again Oct 15 19:20:39 no..no errors Oct 15 19:20:53 Oct 15, 2011 11:58:26 AM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController postFlashEvent Oct 15 19:20:54 INFO: Flash End time (Success)1318705106490 Oct 15 19:21:14 it looks fine so far..just cant log in the profile Oct 15 19:21:32 yeah I mean what error comes up when logging in? Oct 15 19:22:31 Data not restored. We are unable to restore your data. Please wait a few mintues and try again. Oct 15 19:22:51 i typed in my email and password...i even reset the password Oct 15 19:27:01 ? Oct 15 19:27:03 anyone Oct 15 19:27:24 Does creating a new profile work? Oct 15 19:28:19 i try that next :) Oct 15 19:29:49 Email address in use message Oct 15 19:30:18 hmm i may have to use a different email Oct 15 19:30:25 Hey, has anyone had any luck calling an undocumented service from inside a node.js service? I have a custom service that I'm trying to call com.palm.connectionmanager/configureNwProxies, but I get an outbound service error Oct 15 19:30:53 but if its saying that my profile already exist...why cant i use it Oct 15 19:31:03 hiddenpremise: Maybe Jason's homebrew service framwork? dunno Oct 15 19:31:20 actionfigure: Tried a reboot? Oct 15 19:31:27 I've heard of it, probably should take a look at that. Thanks pc-world Oct 15 19:31:28 yes 3 times already Oct 15 19:31:44 hiddenpremise: Don't know though if that works for undocumented services. Oct 15 19:32:01 if it sits outisde the jailer, I bet it does Oct 15 19:32:34 I know people can call undocumented services from an enyo app if they are in the com.palm.* namespace, but that doesn't work for a service Oct 15 19:32:53 actionfigure: You removed all your data from the profile before, right? Oct 15 19:32:54 if you put a custom service in the palm.com namespace, even if it is public, it can't be called Oct 15 19:33:39 yes Oct 15 19:34:01 actionfigure: you ran ./scripts/meta-att-preplus-2.1.0? ;) Oct 15 19:34:02 pc-world: it said it would delete all apps,messages, and photos etc Oct 15 19:34:05 yes Oct 15 19:34:26 actionfigure: Photos? Did you do that in the backup app? Oct 15 19:34:36 actionfigure: It shouldn't say anything about photos Oct 15 19:34:39 im on the palm profile online with mycomputer and im using the same password Oct 15 19:34:42 yes Oct 15 19:34:51 i backed up everything Oct 15 19:35:29 online it says i have version 1.40.50 Oct 15 19:35:43 which is what i read in the tutorial Oct 15 19:36:50 If you login with novaterm Oct 15 19:37:02 actionfigure: and do tail -f /var/log/messages, you may see some error messages Oct 15 19:37:10 actionfigure: (but only if dev mode is already enabled) Oct 15 19:37:19 it was enabled Oct 15 19:37:41 you may wanna pipe that tail output through grep for errors b/c the webos logs everything Oct 15 19:38:01 no errors Oct 15 19:38:01 tail -f /varlog/messages | grep 'error' Oct 15 19:39:53 Why am I not able to edit articles in the WebOS Internals wiki anymore?! / rwhitby Oct 15 19:40:23 That's not a good system to improve this messed wiki... Oct 15 19:46:51 pc-world: thanks for your help..i had to create another profile Oct 15 19:47:43 actionfigure: If you hadn't have any paid apps in your old profile it shouldn't be a problem. Oct 15 19:48:18 none paid Oct 15 19:48:43 it feels and looks smoother and sharper :) Oct 15 19:49:36 hmmm...i still have my phots :O Oct 15 19:49:39 photos Oct 15 19:51:46 actionfigure: congrats ;) Oct 15 19:52:37 thanks..now i need to install preware and im set :) Oct 15 19:55:57 pc-world: can i use the pre2 webdoctor version? Oct 15 19:56:31 actionfigure: No. It has a reason you had to use meta-doctor Oct 15 19:56:39 oh Oct 15 19:56:45 so how do i install preware? Oct 15 19:56:54 actionfigure: Pre 2 has different hardware than Pre Plus Oct 15 19:57:05 actionfigure: or what do you mean by "pre2 webdoctor version"? Oct 15 19:57:16 just with webOS Quick Install or whatever Oct 15 20:08:31 hi all Oct 15 20:11:35 got a quick question about the rom on webos-internals wiki, is it allowed? Oct 15 20:14:38 hmmm i dont see preware in webosquickinstall 4.3.1 Oct 15 20:22:34 anyway, the webos 3.0.0 rom i downloaded from the wiki via the link have different md5 value than the one provided at the bottom of the page Oct 15 20:25:36 actionfigure: Download the ipk from http://get.preware.org/ and install it with Quick Install Oct 15 20:26:22 actionfigure: This one: http://get.preware.org/org.webosinternals.preware_1.8.3_arm.ipk Oct 15 20:31:35 pc-world: oh thanks..i got it :) Oct 15 20:34:16 crap..does govnah work with 2.1? Oct 15 20:35:45 :O Oct 15 20:35:52 can you overclock the 2.1? Oct 15 20:36:30 im using the uberkernel. is this correct? Oct 15 20:41:58 anyone? Oct 15 20:42:13 i thought i could... Oct 15 20:50:34 is it possible to go back to 1.4.5? Oct 15 20:52:27 webosnew: what is the URL, the filename, and the md5sum ? Oct 15 20:57:03 the url is the one on the wiki, http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/touchpad/wd300wifi/webosdoctorp300hstnhwifi.jar, filename is the same Oct 15 20:57:28 md5sum is 634b2b991d0e5c7d019f1aa7f48f72e7 , download using firefox Oct 15 20:58:56 webosnew: downloading now to see what I get Oct 15 21:04:50 thanks Oct 15 21:05:42 strangely, i used chrome and got the one with same md5sum Oct 15 21:06:00 please let me know what happens, i am unsure why that is the case Oct 15 21:07:01 rwhitby: need to be away from computer at the moment, please let me know Oct 15 21:07:07 thanks Oct 15 21:08:56 webosnew: why are you flashing 3.0.0 anyway? you should use 3.0.2 Oct 15 21:09:34 webosnew: my md5sum matches the web page - your downloads are corrupted Oct 15 21:14:48 dwc-: was it you who had the patch for impostah for at&t mnc/mcc ? Oct 15 21:16:27 dwc-: nm, found it at http://pastebin.com/HejruMMY (AT&T mnc/mcc for Impostah) Oct 15 21:36:47 complete irrelevant and off topic: the id of that paste almost makes sense in swedish. "Hej" is swedish for "Hi", and "rummy" is a game. Oct 15 21:55:24 I'm trying to add my custom install scripts postinst, prerm, etc to my ipk, which palm-package does not include. Does anyone have any guidance on how to do this? Oct 15 21:58:59 hiddenpremise, yes, use our preware/build.git Oct 15 21:59:24 thank you kind sir Oct 15 21:59:25 then that will work. Oct 15 21:59:49 yw Oct 15 22:03:32 hiddenpremise: look at the Hello! app Oct 15 22:03:42 hiddenpremise: what app are you working on Oct 15 22:04:08 an app for automatically switching the proxy settings based on your network SSID Oct 15 22:04:23 I'm used to that functionality on my IOS devices and would like to bring it to the tp Oct 15 22:04:56 hiddenpremise: are you targeting app catalog or preware ? Oct 15 22:04:59 preware Oct 15 22:05:29 using the homebrew js framework, hopefully, gotta make heads/tails of this preware/build.git that i just cloned first :P Oct 15 22:05:34 hiddenpremise: http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/hello/tree/ Oct 15 22:05:59 thanks! Oct 15 22:06:14 I'm gunna run eat, back in 15 ish. Thanks for all your help :) Oct 15 22:06:43 hiddenpremise: we use lines 69 to 72 of http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/hello/tree/control/postinst instead of the homebrew JS service Oct 15 22:07:18 saves having an extra dependency, and is more robust (in my opinion) Oct 15 22:09:32 good to know! I was hoping there was a better way Oct 15 22:11:25 ok...is it possible to go from 2.1 back to 1.4.5? Oct 15 22:20:19 hi all Oct 15 22:20:45 38seconds....not a record. Oct 15 22:51:02 rwhitby: yeah, most likely somehow using firefox, the download was corrupted, but using chrome works Oct 15 22:51:32 i only wanted 3.0.0 rom as a backup in case 3.0.2 does not work well for me Oct 15 22:54:23 hiya jonpry Oct 15 22:54:31 hi ka6sox-away Oct 15 22:54:35 been looking for you :p Oct 15 22:54:42 orly? Oct 15 22:54:56 green-- showed me the photos you got regarding hdmi Oct 15 22:55:10 however i do not believe that chip is a usb mux Oct 15 22:55:12 not great...going back for round 2 Oct 15 22:55:39 the only thing near that is the vibrator motor Oct 15 22:55:45 rwhitby: thanks for taking time to test for me Oct 15 22:56:07 just doesn't look right. i would try to find a different one. potentially closer to processor or the pmic. those are more logical locations Oct 15 22:56:17 it should also be somewhat smaller Oct 15 22:56:29 and have 3 differential pairs going into it Oct 15 23:02:52 yep, I see that Oct 15 23:03:02 okay when I get there I will look Oct 15 23:03:14 packing up now to head over there. Oct 15 23:03:23 are you going to be online for a while? Oct 15 23:04:14 because I will need time to setup the lights and studio settings. Oct 15 23:06:08 jonpry ^^^ Oct 15 23:17:18 ka6sox-away yeah i'll be around Oct 15 23:19:24 kewl. Oct 15 23:19:26 bbiaf Oct 16 00:05:11 thanks again rwhitby Oct 16 00:05:14 bye guys Oct 16 00:32:01 * rwhitby dumps qualcomm partitions from three Pre 3 devices to see what is common and what changes Oct 16 00:39:10 misc? Oct 16 00:40:29 tmzt: ? Oct 16 00:41:55 p2,p3,p5,p6 are identical between two devices Oct 16 00:42:26 didn't know what partition you meant Oct 16 00:42:39 misc is a bunch of settings for the modem, there's also efs Oct 16 00:42:41 that's CFG_DATA, OSBL, EFS2 and FOTA according to mantaray.xml Oct 16 00:42:51 does pre uses rmt_storage? Oct 16 00:42:54 pre3 Oct 16 00:43:02 rwhitby, your hello app looks like something I can learn a lot from. thanks for linking me to it. could you tell me what commands from the preware build (im guessing scripts directory) that I should use to package my app? Oct 16 00:43:23 tmzt: yes: /usr/sbin/qcom_rmt_storage /dev/mmcblk0p7 /dev/mmcblk0p8 Oct 16 00:43:37 7 and 8 are MODEM_ST1 and MODEM_ST2 Oct 16 00:43:54 hiddenpremise: there's a Makefile in hello.git Oct 16 00:44:46 tmzt: turns out the daughter board in a Pre 3 is just the flash chip, nothing to do with modem hardware (other than storing the flash partitions) Oct 16 00:45:02 tmzt: the goal is to create a 16GB EU Pre 3 (normally EU Pre 3's are 8B only) Oct 16 00:45:34 So I'm working out what partitions need to be swapped in the flash area for this to work. Oct 16 00:45:39 msm_nand flash or emmc? Oct 16 00:46:03 mmcblk0 Oct 16 00:46:10 rwhitby: thanks Oct 16 00:46:36 usually a qualcomm bootloader has an embedded partition table it uses Oct 16 00:46:48 but some might also use the dos partition table Oct 16 00:50:21 tmzt: p1 is FAT partition table Oct 16 00:50:41 plus amss and chainbootie according to mantaray.xml Oct 16 00:51:21 all in p1? Oct 16 00:51:38 chainbootie would be appsboot.mbn Oct 16 00:52:45 tmzt: do you have a copy of mantaray.xml to look at? Oct 16 00:53:02 no Oct 16 00:53:09 100MB is too big for just the partition table Oct 16 00:53:21 Oct 16 00:53:33 Oct 16 00:53:34 is it a fat partition? Oct 16 00:53:38 Oct 16 00:53:43 or just the weird qualcomm fat that won't mount Oct 16 00:53:55 Oct 16 00:53:59 Oct 16 00:54:03 Oct 16 00:54:07 Oct 16 00:54:16 Oct 16 00:54:22 Oct 16 00:54:26 Oct 16 00:54:33 Oct 16 00:54:46 p13 is nvram with tokens and logos Oct 16 00:54:52 p14 is /boot Oct 16 00:55:35 I wondering why you need to move partitions around Oct 16 00:55:45 just to use a larger mmc Oct 16 00:55:58 it's all the same single flash chip Oct 16 00:56:04 on a single daughter board Oct 16 00:56:23 right, but it's emmc flash Oct 16 00:56:27 move the board, and you move all the partitions as well Oct 16 00:56:50 need to put the partitions back on the right board Oct 16 00:56:50 why can't you dd to it? maybe build an interface for them Oct 16 00:57:01 it should really just be mmc bus Oct 16 00:57:11 mabye at 3.3v Oct 16 00:57:22 right, dd is what I intend to use of course Oct 16 00:58:01 if it's using rmt then the efs is being written from userspace in linux Oct 16 00:58:11 we found that out when rooting the g2 Oct 16 00:58:13 rmt is only in the installer image Oct 16 00:58:39 we found that killing rmt did not kill the phone Oct 16 00:58:42 do you know what's in ST1 and ST2 ? Oct 16 00:58:47 it just couldn't right settings back Oct 16 00:58:53 (for the partition layout above) Oct 16 00:58:56 not by name Oct 16 00:59:04 usually strings is helpful with this stuff Oct 16 00:59:52 they look encrypted Oct 16 01:00:14 no recognisable strings at all Oct 16 01:00:32 how big are they? Oct 16 01:01:16 3072KB Oct 16 01:02:03 figures Oct 16 01:02:19 could just be calibration or something like that Oct 16 01:02:33 are they the same or completely different? Oct 16 01:02:53 we had two partitions like that on g2, I think they were kept in sync by rmt_storage Oct 16 01:02:58 it would write to one at a time Oct 16 01:03:01 completely different Oct 16 01:10:39 tmzt: p1 is mountable as vfat Oct 16 01:10:58 hmm Oct 16 01:11:06 so it has mbn files in it? Oct 16 01:11:17 http://pastebin.com/3M8yKmT5 Oct 16 01:11:47 is there somewhere which describes what all those files are Oct 16 01:12:10 jonpry you here?> Oct 16 01:12:18 yes Oct 16 01:12:20 emmc_appboot is chainbootie? Oct 16 01:12:51 yep Oct 16 01:12:53 adsp stuff is for the a6, it's mostly ram images loaded to the dsp for video and audio decoding and capture Oct 16 01:13:05 amss is the core of the amms itself, it's an elf probably Oct 16 01:13:20 it has the rtos and the servers for the modem stuff Oct 16 01:13:30 mdsp is q6 Oct 16 01:13:32 12AJ Oct 16 01:13:42 (O or 0)8502 Oct 16 01:13:43 EBI inits the shared ram I would assume Oct 16 01:14:04 ka6sox: chip? Oct 16 01:14:16 maybe Q? Oct 16 01:15:01 wait EBI is something else, SMEMDUMP would be the shared ram Oct 16 01:15:31 SMT Oct 16 01:15:35 no tail for a Q Oct 16 01:15:40 ka6sox, i think its a much smaller chip. pretty sure it would be marked LK Oct 16 01:15:52 this is only 1/4" long Oct 16 01:15:58 its TINY Oct 16 01:16:16 other possible markings are GB, or AGM Oct 16 01:17:01 2.1x1.6mm Oct 16 01:17:06 ah, looks like some of these files are dumps Oct 16 01:17:25 ka6sox so smaller than 1/8" long Oct 16 01:17:26 when I compare two devices, many of the .BIN files differ, but all the .mbn files are identical (as expected) Oct 16 01:17:41 rwhitby: this could be used for fastboot Oct 16 01:17:58 I didn't know it was supported on here (save the ram to disk and load it at runtime) Oct 16 01:18:14 amss.mbn differs between ROW and ATT devices, but that's expected cause they have different modem firmware versions Oct 16 01:18:15 interesting timestamps Oct 16 01:18:24 ROW? Oct 16 01:18:29 EU Oct 16 01:19:24 jonpry, none of those designations are on any part Oct 16 01:19:46 this is the only one that even looks like it has balanced in/out Oct 16 01:20:08 hrm. picture? Oct 16 01:22:54 …man I've been running make for the past half hour lol Oct 16 01:25:07 okay, give me a few minutes to get the setup so I can get a pic Oct 16 01:26:02 ka6sox, sure thing. thanks Oct 16 01:42:40 jonpry, 12AJ (diamond) 8502 Oct 16 01:42:56 processor? Oct 16 01:43:07 oh the marks Oct 16 01:43:07 green--, I can't hold the lenses back to back steady enough Oct 16 01:43:30 (to take a picture) Oct 16 01:43:32 but it works Oct 16 01:44:55 i've never had much luck figuring out what the smt markings mean unless you know the manufacturer Oct 16 01:45:04 right Oct 16 01:45:12 the manuf has to be that diamond mark Oct 16 01:46:49 ka6sox: well, can you use some sort of tape I wonder? Oct 16 01:46:59 probably fine if not, it's not all that urgent Oct 16 01:47:29 the thing is that this mhl switch is like a pretty expensive part. .40 to 1.00 depending on the model. i have my doubts it would be populated if not used Oct 16 01:48:14 unless there were plans to use it, but the feature was not completed in time or something Oct 16 02:02:27 12AJ (diamond) 8502 Oct 16 02:02:45 even under 10X live view thats what it is Oct 16 02:03:01 WM8958E Oct 16 02:03:04 (too big) Oct 16 02:03:09 PB4AC Oct 16 02:03:18 PM8901 Oct 16 02:03:30 14CY83T Oct 16 02:03:38 TPS61187 Oct 16 02:03:45 PS61032 Oct 16 02:03:59 1824T-1121 Oct 16 02:04:04 53 Oct 16 02:04:08 FD Oct 16 02:06:05 those *are* the numbers that are tehre. Oct 16 02:06:24 8903 Oct 16 02:06:39 thats it? Oct 16 02:08:05 no, but a lot of the rest are in the PS sections Oct 16 02:08:30 2126 Oct 16 02:09:23 75211 Oct 16 02:10:00 1631 020M Oct 16 02:14:47 jonpry, nothing else matches what you are talking about Oct 16 02:15:03 either too few pins, or "bigger Oct 16 02:15:26 ic Oct 16 02:16:03 anyone have problems getting themes to work on 2.1? Oct 16 02:16:13 i wonder if its even necessary. like if somebody were to short the usb phy with the hdmi pins. muxing could be achieved via pinmux Oct 16 02:17:27 no luck here Oct 16 02:24:20 :) Oct 16 02:25:49 hmmm Oct 16 02:26:13 jonpry? Oct 16 02:34:01 ka6sox just trying to figure out how hdmi could possible work at this point Oct 16 02:42:45 jonpry, I was able to ID every chip Oct 16 02:43:31 as in the numbers or what they are? Oct 16 02:43:54 as in #'s Oct 16 02:44:09 nothing is erased or has a non-readable part. Oct 16 02:48:51 no LK's? Oct 16 02:49:20 nope Oct 16 02:58:56 jonpry, I zoomed in with the live view and read every chip Oct 16 02:59:04 no matter how many legs it had Oct 16 02:59:26 yeah i think there is not an MHL mux Oct 16 02:59:41 okay **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 16 02:59:56 2011