**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 02:59:57 2011 Oct 18 03:04:58 so anyone working on some kinda patch? Oct 18 03:15:31 question..should i have compcache enabled? what are the benefits? Oct 18 03:18:30 hey guys quick question Oct 18 03:18:59 are you guys having issues with preware? Oct 18 03:19:11 I can't seem to update i Oct 18 03:19:26 or download any packages Oct 18 03:22:13 shavo0915: is this a new problem? or did you just install preware Oct 18 03:23:20 hola alguien para chat Oct 18 03:23:54 I had installed preware about a month ago and now it doesn't want to do anything anymore on my touchpad Oct 18 03:24:16 oh...ok...i dont know much about tp Oct 18 03:25:46 anyone have any ideas? Oct 18 03:30:07 thanks anyway guys Oct 18 05:28:40 shavo0915: ping Oct 18 08:31:03 hi Oct 18 08:31:20 PDK on linux related pages need some updates no ? Oct 18 08:32:05 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PDK_on_Linux this one is not relevant anymore as there is an official pdk now(since some months) Oct 18 08:40:40 hello Oct 18 08:40:54 mi name is camila Oct 18 08:51:51 Does the WIDK is still relevant since an official PDK has been released ? Oct 18 09:52:30 I'm interested in prepping my 2.1 doctor with the sprint nav ipk, flash, and flash patch. how would I go about doing this? Oct 18 09:55:37 wire crashed Oct 18 09:55:46 *wirc Oct 18 09:58:34 so, anyone have an idea on the ipks? Oct 18 13:25:29 hi, i created a wiki account, but I'm unable to edit a page, what should I do to enable that? Oct 18 13:43:32 just wanted to add link to the new doctor version 3.04 Oct 18 13:50:13 god, i hate it when screw tops simply decide to shred off. Oct 18 14:07:10 3.0.4 is out Oct 18 14:07:14 start downloading :) Oct 18 14:10:48 what's about preware, patches and uberkernel? Oct 18 14:11:19 is it safe to update with ueberkernel installed? Oct 18 14:13:28 always run EPR and remove kernels/themes before an update. just to be safe Oct 18 14:13:34 I always* Oct 18 14:13:44 EPR? Oct 18 14:13:54 Emergency Patch Recovery Oct 18 14:14:09 ok Oct 18 14:14:45 I wonder if the current ueberkernel can be installed after the update Oct 18 14:15:14 only once the source code for the kernel is released Oct 18 14:27:53 yaaaaaaaaaay 3.0.4 77 Oct 18 14:27:58 PatrickC: ^.^ :D Oct 18 14:28:07 YEAH! Oct 18 14:28:16 time to break the android install then fix it haha Oct 18 14:28:21 * dtzWill bbl late for meeting xD :D Oct 18 14:28:24 hahaha re:android Oct 18 14:28:44 yeah, that'll be fun. i'm sure they'll pick up the changes soon enough. Oct 18 14:29:07 yeah Oct 18 14:55:11 I have 3.0.4 installed. should I be seeing 3.0.2 kernels? Oct 18 14:55:23 i dont think it deletes anything Oct 18 14:56:06 it tells it to pull the 3.0.4 feeds Oct 18 14:56:14 which is why I'm asking. Oct 18 15:00:09 is there a changelog for 3.0.4 or something? Oct 18 15:01:17 Is it safe to update to 3.0.4? Oct 18 15:01:21 WIll I lose anything? Oct 18 15:02:07 LunohoD: check webOSRoundup Oct 18 15:02:10 oldtopman: nope Oct 18 15:02:25 run the emergency patch recovery, remove all themes and kernels before update Oct 18 15:03:13 nope to safe, or losing anything? Oct 18 15:03:26 its safe Oct 18 15:03:34 nope to losing anything :) Oct 18 15:03:35 And I don't have kernels or themes installed, do I still need to run EPR? Oct 18 15:03:43 yes Oct 18 15:04:01 brb Oct 18 15:45:11 If anyone is here that was here when I was last night, I finally got a solution to my Veer profile. I had to use novaterm to bypass first-use, set up wifi, re-enable first-use, kill Luna, and finally I could log in Oct 18 15:45:22 They make it easy don't they? ;) Oct 18 15:50:29 When do I run Emergency Patch Recovery? Right before, or right afterwards? Oct 18 15:50:44 I'm also assuming that this won't remove my apps Oct 18 15:53:47 I'll be here for a while :P Oct 18 15:59:24 oldtopman: idk about 'best practice', but i just updated it in-place and everything is fine. Oct 18 15:59:55 patches are wrong (in the sense that they're installed, but aren't active for files that the update overwrote) but that's how AUPT is supposed to work--fail gracefully Oct 18 16:00:17 all apps/etc still there--this should be uncondtionally true Oct 18 16:00:21 (non-destructive update) Oct 18 16:00:31 and i had uberkernel installed, which also gracefullly was replaced by the OTA Oct 18 16:00:59 leaving AUPT patches installed means when they're updated things can work neatly Oct 18 16:01:59 jebus Oct 18 16:02:19 swapping touchpad parts proved to be harder than i first thought Oct 18 16:06:55 after updating to 3.0.4 preware won't open anymore. gets stuck on "reading saved package list" rebooting now to see if that fixes it Oct 18 16:07:57 fwiw it opens/seems to work here. Oct 18 16:08:10 not that that helps you particularly, but doesn't seem like a universal failure. Oct 18 16:10:40 hi Oct 18 16:11:23 on touchpad : anyone got the command to mount the ubuntuchroot user's partition on the CM7 android ? Oct 18 16:11:58 Douilspee, would be better to ask someone in one of the android channels Oct 18 16:12:08 the lv should be in /dev/store Oct 18 16:12:11 mount it someplace Oct 18 16:12:45 if i copy the line from webos fstab to andro fstab it will work ? Oct 18 16:12:53 nope Oct 18 16:13:02 yes it is something like /dev/store etc Oct 18 16:17:02 anyone around who can edit the webos doctor versions page? Oct 18 16:20:13 myanth: you can Oct 18 16:20:24 I'm not a "human" Oct 18 16:20:27 so I cannot Oct 18 16:20:39 I'm not in the groups "Human, Editors" Oct 18 16:20:53 hmm. they must have changed it Oct 18 16:21:02 you shouldn't (or used to not have to be) one Oct 18 16:21:04 lemme see Oct 18 16:22:01 I have the touchpad official 3.0.4 webdoctor link Oct 18 16:22:39 lemme get someone to update it Oct 18 16:23:19 link: http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/touchpad/p304rod10182011/wd304wifi/webosdoctorp304hstnhwifi.jar Oct 18 16:27:28 thx Oct 18 16:28:23 halfhalo: you have edit rights on the webos-internals wiki? Oct 18 16:29:28 the HP catalog flashed a "choose shopping country" screen at my for a moment before dumping me at some terms and conditions Oct 18 16:29:52 same here Oct 18 16:33:37 So, this is my first ota Oct 18 16:34:04 h Oct 18 16:34:19 Sorry, having typing issues this morning Oct 18 16:36:17 I don't even know how to ask. Do I lose all my optware/preware work if I run the ota update? Oct 18 16:36:57 I had just updated my saved package list before updating to 3.0.4 Oct 18 16:38:53 * halfhalo doesn't do wiki's Oct 18 16:39:18 Oh, right. There probably is a wiki entry about this sort of thing, huh. Oct 18 16:39:35 I'll poke around over there Oct 18 16:40:05 Nice, I wake up to a webos update Oct 18 16:50:43 Well, I looked around on the wiki, can't find a general info page about applying ota updates when one is homebrew'd up. How destructive is the update process? Oct 18 16:51:20 elfurbe: assume your kernel will be replaced with stock and patches won't work any longer. Oct 18 16:51:52 other than that, i think generally things should be fine. YMMV i suppose, somoene mine care to offer you a more authoritative or stronger assertion about things if you stick around :) Oct 18 16:53:27 I figured on the kernel and patches, but I won't lose any of my optware packages or folders I've made in cryptofs or anything goofy like that? Oct 18 16:53:52 Oh, also, is it best to uninstall all patches before an update or just let it wipe them out? Oct 18 16:57:31 wiki updated, I confirmed the url by reading it out of the jnlp palm shoved at me Oct 18 17:01:15 rebooting work. now preware opens Oct 18 17:01:30 *worked Oct 18 17:01:42 ka6sox: # Perform captcha triggering actions without having to go through the captcha (skipcaptcha) Oct 18 17:01:47 # skipcaptha (skipcaptha) Oct 18 17:01:55 maybe that's why? Oct 18 17:02:15 but I am seeing verson 3.0.2 patches and kernels Oct 18 17:02:30 I'm gonna hold off on installing anything for a while :) Oct 18 18:18:23 is there any way to install preware from the browser or xterm Oct 18 18:19:21 none_: j/w how do you have xterm on the device w/o preware? Oct 18 18:19:32 because I had it Oct 18 18:19:41 then had to alpha beta feeds Oct 18 18:19:46 and had to remove Oct 18 18:19:55 and yes--although I can't give you a guide offhand atm. you can offline install the ipk, and probably need to run the post-inst by hand or something. Oct 18 18:20:26 does internalz have any way to load ipk from url Oct 18 18:20:46 the browser goes to view the hex or whatnot instead of dling Oct 18 18:27:53 Hrm. Annoying. Durn system update just seems to be sitting at a spinner. Oct 18 18:30:53 hey everyone. Really weird problem, govnah is not showing any higher frequency above 1.188 GHz. Used with uberkernal and now I just installed warthog and same thing. It used to allow me to oc to resistivecorpse 1.5 with uber Oct 18 18:31:45 scottyyf, what version of webos? Oct 18 18:31:54 3.0.2 Oct 18 18:32:39 you rebooted, right? Oct 18 18:33:22 several times, reinstalled govnah also Oct 18 18:34:35 is there a way to delete govnah preference files? I feel like that might do something, but I song know Oct 18 18:37:12 it stoped letting me go higher than 1.188 after I tried the android in a card by that Chinese ddvdloper Oct 18 18:37:47 oh... that may have done some weird funky stuff to your TP Oct 18 18:38:25 I suggest doctoring it if that's what started your kernel issues (remembering to save your stuff of course) Oct 18 18:39:05 I know :( I figured it would be safe since it was just an app in a card Oct 18 18:40:25 it may run that way, but depending on how it's installed it could tamper with just about anything on your TP's root file system Oct 18 18:41:12 dang, okay thanks.. I'll doctor Oct 18 18:41:25 and 3.0.4 is out now, but I definitely recommend backing up your stuff (with save restore) and doctoring before updating Oct 18 18:42:20 there is a 3.0.4 doctor out too Oct 18 18:45:04 is 3.0.4 official release or testing? What about 3.0.3? Oct 18 18:45:13 official. no 3.0.3 Oct 18 18:46:49 3.0.4 is official (I updated OTA this morning) Oct 18 18:48:58 dtzWill: 3.0.4 breaks your rotation detection! and makes me sad. Oct 18 18:50:35 M25: what about my rotation detection? Oct 18 18:50:38 oh in xserver? curious. Oct 18 18:53:27 yeah, I used it almost exclusively in portrait mode Oct 18 18:53:32 also, it breaks a number of patches Oct 18 18:53:55 uberkernel, custom browser gestures, email launch with folders minimized Oct 18 18:54:16 on the plus side though, the contacts app is now lightning fast Oct 18 19:07:15 hey the url on the wiki for 3.0.4 77 doctor is wrong Oct 18 19:07:23 should be http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/touchpad/p304rod10182011/wd304wifi/webosdoctorp304hstnhwifi.jar i don't have a wiki login tho Oct 18 19:10:53 what i'm not a human or editor D: Oct 18 19:11:05 but but but i have a number of wiki pages D: Oct 18 19:11:21 oh well, sounds like it's a known issue. Oct 18 19:11:29 domo arigato mr roboto Oct 18 19:27:41 can anyone help me get the enyo version of wirc? i have no idea where to look for it Oct 18 19:28:55 i googled it and found http://cwl.cogsci.rpi.edu/wIRC-Enyo/ Oct 18 19:29:00 but ymmv Oct 18 19:29:13 thats not the latest version Oct 18 19:29:16 for all i know Oct 18 19:29:19 and its not starting up on my tp Oct 18 19:29:22 ^ Oct 18 19:30:28 hey guys Oct 18 19:31:10 good evening from germany Oct 18 19:35:42 nebula can you make any sense of this? http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/213722-wirc-webos-irc-client-15.html#post3187657 Oct 18 19:37:07 the testing feed? Oct 18 19:37:17 i have testing feeds enabled ofc Oct 18 19:37:22 but no idea what he means with announcement app Oct 18 19:39:41 owa: if you have the old testing feeds, there's an announcement which tells you to look at beta.preware.org i think, to change them to the new testing feed system Oct 18 19:40:10 the old feeds dont get updated Oct 18 19:40:34 i see, im already using the new feeds though Oct 18 19:41:03 then installing wirc should get you the current version Oct 18 19:41:12 yeah i have the current wirc version Oct 18 19:41:14 0.4.7 Oct 18 19:41:16 but i want the enyo version of it Oct 18 19:41:19 0.0.9 Oct 18 19:41:27 http://ompldr.org/vYTRpeQ Oct 18 19:42:11 isnt this the paid version? Oct 18 19:44:42 really? Oct 18 19:44:54 i thought so, ya Oct 18 19:45:02 :| Oct 18 19:46:10 paid version says Oct 18 19:46:12 hm no, the app catalog description says enyo rewrite in progress Oct 18 19:46:14 v. 0.4.6 Oct 18 19:46:17 yeah Oct 18 19:46:21 ya Oct 18 19:48:19 maybe its in the alpha feeds? Oct 18 19:49:39 have them Oct 18 19:49:42 and its not in there Oct 18 19:50:11 strange.. not public then. git? Oct 18 19:50:44 http://git.webos-internals.org/enyo/wirc/ Oct 18 19:50:45 i guess Oct 18 19:51:24 self-compile ;) Oct 18 20:03:22 does anyone know, is it recommended to remove oc kernels before updating to 3.0.4 on hp touchpad? Oct 18 20:03:51 greetings,carbon based bipeds.. Oct 18 20:05:19 always remove custom kernels before updating, just to be sure. Oct 18 20:05:50 update 3.0.4 not showing up in my to, nor does uberkernel Oct 18 20:06:08 tp Oct 18 20:06:34 thanks :) Oct 18 20:07:03 and is uberkernel compatible with 3.0.4? can i reinstall after update? Oct 18 20:07:51 not showing in feed for my tp... Oct 18 20:07:55 all kernels will be updated in 24h. check back tomorrow. Oct 18 20:10:55 ok, thanks again! Oct 18 20:25:07 strange things happening... Oct 18 20:43:43 whoops, copy/pasted fail Oct 18 20:44:52 wonder how, I swear I copied the url I used to download Oct 18 20:45:18 dwc-: i believe it changed. Oct 18 20:45:40 easy explanation hehe :) Oct 18 20:45:47 oh, that makes me feel a little better then :p Oct 18 20:46:00 probably silly question, after doing system update to 3.0.4, does one just need to reinstall any kernel-related preware packages to get them going again? Oct 18 20:46:24 think they need to be updated by author Oct 18 20:46:42 ok, makes sense Oct 18 20:46:54 someone isn't following @webosinternals on twitter to get this information in the first 24h after an update ... Oct 18 20:47:12 i accidentally updated to 3.0.4 while i ran phantom kernel Oct 18 20:47:26 meaning i should be following on twitter? Oct 18 20:47:35 yep Oct 18 20:47:40 i can do that :-D, ty Oct 18 20:48:00 anyone know why sometimes my pre2 (sprint) stops receiving text msg ? untill i do a reset and then they are magicly there with timestamp and everything ... only major issue with my pre2 Oct 18 20:48:05 did i break anything? Oct 18 20:48:09 ah Oct 18 20:48:09 nope Oct 18 20:48:14 this is the channel i have been looking for Oct 18 20:48:28 how is everyone Oct 18 20:48:38 great Oct 18 20:48:48 enjoying the new ota? :) Oct 18 20:49:04 its nice Oct 18 20:49:24 not sure if i broke anything.. Oct 18 20:49:26 wish uberkernel worked :/ Oct 18 20:49:32 give it a cpl days Oct 18 20:49:40 yeah i will Oct 18 20:49:40 hehe Oct 18 20:49:40 it will be back in no time Oct 18 20:49:49 im sure Oct 18 20:50:02 i still havent checked if the updated killed the cm7 dual boot .. prob didnt Oct 18 20:50:10 VICODANAX: if you're going to complain in the first 24h after a webOS update, please leave the channel now Oct 18 20:50:40 there are a number of people spending their free time updating stuff. complaints are NOT welcome Oct 18 20:51:06 rwhitby: any chance for a Fuel update to enable Pre3 access? Oct 18 20:51:59 rwhitby: not complaining, very happy, got the message. Oct 18 20:52:33 ice8lue: talk to the developer of fuel Oct 18 20:53:03 howdy everyone Oct 18 20:53:13 name might be similar, but isn't Oct 18 20:53:18 hey Oct 18 20:53:34 dwc: oh ;) sorry then Oct 18 20:53:36 creation were you at OSCON? Oct 18 20:53:43 ziplock503: i was Oct 18 20:53:54 i had lunch with you ... well you ate Oct 18 20:54:07 lol Oct 18 20:54:11 creationix: nice node version :) Oct 18 20:54:16 good thing to do at lunch Oct 18 20:54:20 rwhitby: thanks! Oct 18 20:54:26 sorry it took so long Oct 18 20:54:28 pff id rather tear open a pre2 lol Oct 18 20:54:57 I'm having trouble doing a simple loopback mount on my device Oct 18 20:55:09 I'm using uberkernel on the fresh 3.0.4 ota Oct 18 20:55:19 is there anything special I need to know about this combo? Oct 18 20:55:21 * uNiXpSyChO runs away.... Oct 18 20:55:27 lol Oct 18 20:55:51 I did see that optware somehow is using /dev/loop0 successfully Oct 18 20:55:57 but I can't seem to add a new one Oct 18 20:56:09 mount: mounting /dev/loop1 on . failed: Invalid argument Oct 18 20:56:26 creationix: I'm not sure the palm kernel supports more than one Oct 18 20:56:58 I'm pretty sure I had optware and my chroot on my device with the pre-release 3.04 Oct 18 20:57:10 did optware recently change to create it's own loopback? Oct 18 20:57:18 with loopfs or ext3fs partition? Oct 18 20:57:29 ext4fs Oct 18 20:57:46 hmm, maybe it was ext3fs before Oct 18 20:57:51 optware used to be a bind mount, now it either uses /media/ext3fs or a newly created loopfs image Oct 18 20:58:25 I've got /dev/loop0 on /opt type ext3 Oct 18 20:58:37 /dev/loop0: [0011]:3 (/media/cryptofs/optware.ext3) Oct 18 20:59:12 maybe i should just create a /media/ext3fs partition Oct 18 20:59:19 seems that's what everything wants to use Oct 18 20:59:31 anyone know why sometimes i stop receving texts on my pre2 ? i have to restart to see if i missed any. Oct 18 20:59:41 isn't there a tool you guys make that re-partitions the device? Oct 18 21:00:16 creationix: it's in development Oct 18 21:00:33 meta-doctor does it automatically Oct 18 21:00:39 can I just use lvm commands from the bash shell? Oct 18 21:00:44 or is it super arcane syntax Oct 18 21:01:02 yeah, you can do that. probably a wiki page for it somewhere Oct 18 21:01:18 don't forget to resize the fat before resizing the LVM Oct 18 21:01:55 hmm, metadoctor sounds easier Oct 18 21:03:49 that's the idea ;) Oct 18 21:04:11 hmm, can it re-partition without flashing me back to 3.0.2? Oct 18 21:04:50 creationix: a 3.0.4 doctor is out for wifi touchpad Oct 18 21:05:01 that's good Oct 18 21:05:21 ok, I see, meta-doctor has all it's options in a huge makefile Oct 18 21:05:42 so for the text msg bug im talking about would it have to be fixed within the meta-doctor build?? hmm wonder when that last update was Oct 18 21:24:26 can someone help me Oct 18 21:25:04 * Douilspee helps Oct 18 21:25:31 I cannot see any patches on preware . I have 1.8.3 downloaded through quickinstall Oct 18 21:26:12 u need modify sources maybe Oct 18 21:26:29 to something like beta Oct 18 21:26:29 I had originally had preware and decided to webOS doctor it to reinstall everything Oct 18 21:26:53 on my feeds all are on and up to date on 3.0.4 Oct 18 21:26:56 preware changed organisation of repo Oct 18 21:27:21 u should find the faq Oct 18 21:28:03 what does that mean? The pre before I reset and erased it with worked Oct 18 21:28:21 aw905: why would you assume that patches have been ported to 3.0.4 yet? Oct 18 21:28:46 I don't even know what that means.. Lol Oct 18 21:28:54 I jus wanted get it to work Oct 18 21:29:29 how can I fix this I tried reinstalling several times and nothing's working Oct 18 21:30:03 can someone help me? Oct 18 21:30:12 https://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/126381753337253888 Oct 18 21:31:22 hmm, metadoctor doesn't like me Oct 18 21:31:39 but it was the default feeds it was installed with Oct 18 21:31:49 well, time to learn lvm Oct 18 21:32:02 how come before I restarted the pre ware worked Oct 18 21:32:31 looks like removing touchplayer fixed the problem with 3.0.4 update Oct 18 21:33:24 can someone please help me Oct 18 21:34:24 I jus want to get the patches and kernels to work.. Everything worked fine until I restarted my tp Oct 18 21:35:43 aw905: https://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/126381753337253888 Oct 18 21:36:09 wow. someone doesnt want to read the response Oct 18 21:36:29 can you explain to me what that even means lol Oct 18 21:36:46 it means you must deinstall preware now as you are too stupid to read Oct 18 21:37:00 * scoutcamper lols Oct 18 21:37:15 lol lol lol Oct 18 21:37:19 * uNiXpSyChO just puked Oct 18 21:37:33 stbuehler, you have made my day, thank you. Oct 18 21:37:43 yw :) Oct 18 21:37:47 why do I need to do it mow? Oct 18 21:38:24 I'm not very be with technology terms is it not only happening to my pre ware Oct 18 21:38:53 sorry guys.. Thanks for the help Oct 18 21:39:33 aw905: oO. it means you shouldn't touch patches/themes/kernels now, try again in a few days. Oct 18 21:39:56 so for the text msg bug im talking about would it have to be fixed within the meta-doctor build?? hmm wonder when that last update was Oct 18 21:39:58 ok, lvm sucks back to fixing metadoctor Oct 18 21:40:05 maybe I have the wrong doctor image Oct 18 21:40:10 the patch stage is where it failed Oct 18 21:40:25 creationix: pastebin - could be a real error Oct 18 21:40:42 oh okay thanks.. So everyone's preware is currently not working not jus mine correct? Oct 18 21:40:51 rwhitby: how do I get the full error? I just see: Oct 18 21:40:53 make[1]: *** [build/touchpad-p304hstnh-wifi-3.0.4/.patched] Error 1 Oct 18 21:41:11 I did have to rename my downloaded jar file Oct 18 21:41:13 and the reason mine worked before I restarted was because it wasn't 3.0.4? Oct 18 21:41:54 aw905: yes Oct 18 21:42:17 btw, does the boot image have to be a 200x200 tga or is the size flexible? Oct 18 21:42:19 give it time grasshopper Oct 18 21:43:08 aw905: webOS internals doesn't get new releases any sooner than anyone else does. They need to ensure that everything will work properly, and potentially fix things with new releases Oct 18 21:43:18 oh ok. If I restored my tp with webosdoctor and didn't get rid of the patches and etc does it affect my tp? Oct 18 21:44:02 I http the n extra launcher tabs patch with games ans homebrew and when I restored it they were still there Oct 18 21:45:01 thanks for the replys Oct 18 21:45:08 creationix: git pull, my bad Oct 18 21:45:24 nice Oct 18 21:45:52 so about that boot image, I want to do a custom one, but I would like to know the constraints Oct 18 21:46:03 not sure Oct 18 21:46:19 we matched dimensions and size as original I think Oct 18 21:46:40 you no like our penguin? ;) Oct 18 21:46:54 I like the penguin Oct 18 21:47:33 but kinda reminds me of the Asian site qq Oct 18 21:47:57 penguin is cool Oct 18 21:48:02 but I want the node logo Oct 18 21:48:06 just for fun Oct 18 21:48:14 ok, I'll sticl to 200x200 for now Oct 18 21:48:18 maybe later I'll experiment Oct 18 21:48:21 *stick Oct 18 21:49:25 aw905: what site are you referring to? Oct 18 21:49:37 so what should I do for the last time rwhitby. Uninstall pre ware and wait couple days to see if patches and others work? Oct 18 21:49:54 aw905: just wait. you don't have to uninstall. Oct 18 21:50:21 a lot of people in Asia uses it I think its called wa with penguin it is used for I'm and games etc Oct 18 21:50:39 http://creationix.com/touchpad-node.png :) Oct 18 21:50:50 called qq* Oct 18 21:51:09 * creationix was a graphics designer in a past life long ago. Only the technical skills remain, not the art Oct 18 21:51:13 http://www.imqq.com/ Oct 18 21:51:31 when did preware start to not work btw Oct 18 21:51:39 today Oct 18 21:51:43 preware is working perfectly Oct 18 21:51:47 with TP Oct 18 21:51:50 update Oct 18 21:51:54 doesn't it kinda look like that penguin? Oct 18 21:52:05 penguin came from linux Oct 18 21:52:16 aw905: it works fine. the issue is patches and custom stuff has to be set up for each version of webos Oct 18 21:52:18 it's your assumption that kernels and patches will be instantly available for a new webOS version which is the thing which broken Oct 18 21:52:23 yea I know jus sayin Oct 18 21:52:51 oh I see I didn't know there was an update on webOS because I didn't have to do a system update Oct 18 21:53:13 how did you get 3.0.4? Oct 18 21:53:29 its ota update Oct 18 21:53:36 duh Oct 18 21:53:42 he knows lol Oct 18 21:53:44 that's the same thing as a system update .... Oct 18 21:54:13 it was already updated i m not users.. Wen was the webOS update? Oct 18 21:54:21 sure* Oct 18 21:54:22 today Oct 18 21:54:50 oh really no wonder.. Wow sorry guys I had no clue now I get it Oct 18 21:55:14 no worries take a cpl days for all the devs to get to it Oct 18 21:55:21 that's why the apps n etc work.. Ahhhhh Oct 18 21:56:13 thanks guys for the help Oct 18 21:57:02 alright, here goes nothing, I'm running my custom doctor... Oct 18 21:57:03 to debuting airlock and dwc Oct 18 21:57:09 now that I understand metadoctor, it's pretty cool Oct 18 21:57:29 heck ya Oct 18 21:57:30 Oct 18 21:58:00 good luck creationix Oct 18 21:58:26 what are some things I could for now? Oct 18 21:58:42 surf the web Oct 18 21:58:45 I already did the clear log minimalize Oct 18 21:59:09 id wait for preware to tinker with your TP Oct 18 21:59:35 haha okay thanks Oct 18 21:59:53 could I get you email for future questions? Oct 18 22:00:18 twitter is a good place to get help ... mine is @ziploc24 Oct 18 22:01:01 ok I don't have an account Oct 18 22:01:21 its free and very good to have also follow @webos-internals Oct 18 22:01:43 alright sounds good thanks guys again Oct 18 22:02:14 np Oct 18 22:03:54