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Oct 26 03:02:11 <ka6sox> hewball, can you give us Diffs?
Oct 26 03:02:32 <ka6sox> much easier to figure out who is on First than reading 8 pages of stuff :D
Oct 26 03:03:28 <hewball> true
Oct 26 03:04:04 <dwc-> Guest20099: yours comes to a screeching halt? mine would become unusable at about 12:10am and reboot sometime after that
Oct 26 03:04:13 <wrea> I might try building avahi for kicks
Oct 26 03:04:19 <dwc-> turning off/on backups fixed it for me though
Oct 26 03:04:38 <dwc-> it seemed to be something server-side related
Oct 26 03:04:42 <wrea> Been a while since I last packaged it up
Oct 26 03:05:51 <Guest20099> dwc: I did that but it keeps hanging on the backup about 3/4 of the way...never completes...then hangs up and requires a battery pull
Oct 26 03:05:56 <hewball> http://pastie.org/2759850  diff of internal playing and a2dp playing
Oct 26 03:06:21 <dwc-> are you familiar with strace/top?
Oct 26 03:06:50 <wrea> much better
Oct 26 03:07:15 <Guest20099> dwc: I am familiar with top...
Oct 26 03:07:50 <Guest20099> dwc: but that will likely point to the backup process..right?
Oct 26 03:07:57 <linuxnewb> has anyone tried updating the Muffle System Logging?
Oct 26 03:08:02 <dwc-> I'm expecting it to...
Oct 26 03:08:13 <linuxnewb> keep getting an error on the touchpad
Oct 26 03:08:24 <dwc-> leave top running when you turn off the backups
Oct 26 03:08:46 <dwc-> and make sure the i-forget-the-name accounts.backup.js or something like that?
Oct 26 03:09:01 <dwc-> make sure it terminates after you turn off the backups
Oct 26 03:09:02 <ka6sox> hewball, thats pretty straight forward then.
Oct 26 03:09:13 <dwc-> before you turn backups back on
Oct 26 03:09:35 <Guest20099> dwc: turning off the backups does not resolve the issue....a reboot is required...
Oct 26 03:09:56 <dwc-> turning off the backups seems to be what triggers the deletion
Oct 26 03:10:09 <dwc-> at least, that's what strace output suggested to me at the time
Oct 26 03:10:34 <hewball> ka6sox: looks as if its just pulseaudio config needed now, and some way to switch inputs in pulseaudio
Oct 26 03:11:42 <Guest20099> dwc: hmmm...I will run some experiments tomorrow...when I get some time....thanks for the tips....
Oct 26 03:12:24 <dwc-> I don't know what caused it to stop working, but attaching to a backup process was doing a lot of stuff on the server side and using up a lot of memory on the client side, which is what would eventually cause my phone reboots
Oct 26 03:13:36 <Guest20099> dwc: the problem is that the backup never completes....and that is what brings everything to a halt....its a though it backing up too much data or the server is not responding..
Oct 26 03:14:15 <dwc-> yes, backups not completing was the symptom on my phone too
Oct 26 03:14:51 <Guest20099> dwc: I wonder if there is a backup space limit....
Oct 26 03:14:51 <dwc-> my personal suspicion (didn't trace through code to check) was that it was looking at what was on the server (perhaps to try to only send diffs?)
Oct 26 03:15:04 <dwc-> and as it iterated through those, ran out of memory on the client side for some reason
Oct 26 03:15:24 <dwc-> when I turned off the backups, and let it delete everything off the server
Oct 26 03:15:34 <dwc-> that operation succeeded fine
Oct 26 03:15:47 <dwc-> and then when I turned backups back on, the backups started working again, and I haven't had a problem with it since
Oct 26 03:16:34 <ka6sox> hewball, what version of webOS are you targetting this for?
Oct 26 03:16:49 <hewball> this is on touchpad, 3.0.4 atm
Oct 26 03:16:50 <Guest20099> dwc: good theory...maybe the data is corrupt on the server side
Oct 26 03:16:58 <ka6sox> if its TP iirc Alsa is used so you can switch it thered.
Oct 26 03:17:45 <Guest20099> dwc: the delete seems to complete..
Oct 26 03:17:50 <hewball> i used alsamixer to make sure card was working
Oct 26 03:18:13 <hewball> and unmute it
Oct 26 03:18:57 <dwc-> check for the running js process, and make sure it's done
Oct 26 03:19:16 <ka6sox> so it should have changed states in the Sink from suspended to running
Oct 26 03:20:42 <hewball> i wasnt using pulse to play it, just aplay in cli
Oct 26 03:20:52 <ka6sox> ah, okay
Oct 26 03:20:53 <hewball> i havnt changed any pulseaudio config yet
Oct 26 03:21:01 <ka6sox> kk
Oct 26 03:21:03 <hewball> thats now what i need to work out
Oct 26 03:21:43 <hewball> but its looking promising :D
Oct 26 03:21:53 <ka6sox> are you using an external module for the USB sound device or is it compiled in?
Oct 26 03:22:21 <hewball> compiled in new kernel
Oct 26 03:22:44 <ka6sox> okay, so USB_AUDIO=y
Oct 26 03:22:54 <hewball> yeah there was that and more
Oct 26 03:23:00 <ka6sox> and then another module (the one that matches the actual device)
Oct 26 03:23:36 <ka6sox> kk
Oct 26 03:24:25 <hewball> +CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=y
Oct 26 03:24:25 <hewball> +CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=y
Oct 26 03:24:25 <hewball> +CONFIG_SND_USB=y
Oct 26 03:24:25 <hewball> +CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO=y
Oct 26 03:24:25 <hewball> +# CONFIG_SND_USB_UA101 is not set
Oct 26 03:24:27 <hewball> +# CONFIG_SND_USB_CAIAQ is not set
Oct 26 03:24:41 <hewball> thats the diff between the f15c.config and my custom
Oct 26 03:25:11 <ka6sox> kk....
Oct 26 03:25:14 <dwc-> if those are modular, should probably go in as a module to save memory
Oct 26 03:25:27 <dwc-> for all the rest of us without external usb sound cards
Oct 26 03:25:33 <hewball> i dont think it allowed me to, cant remember
Oct 26 03:25:37 <ka6sox> hewball, when you have it all working send the diff of that as a patch we can integrate.
Oct 26 03:26:37 <ka6sox> compcache is a module, and we load and unload it (or at least we did)
Oct 26 03:27:13 <hewball> USB Audio/MIDI driver  allows as module, usbaudio didnt
Oct 26 03:27:44 <ka6sox> that is usually just a connector
Oct 26 03:27:47 <dwc-> that sounds right
Oct 26 03:27:57 <ka6sox> then the "drivers" for the various cards attach to that.
Oct 26 03:28:22 <ka6sox> bbiaf
Oct 26 03:28:29 <hewball> makes sense
Oct 26 03:28:49 <wrea> SND_USB_AUDIO should be allowable as a module afaik
Oct 26 03:28:49 <hewball> the headset in using is a USB HID device so its standard
Oct 26 03:30:00 <wrea> bbl
Oct 26 03:30:46 <ka6sox> hewball, isnt that for the source side (mic)?
Oct 26 03:30:51 <ka6sox> the HID
Oct 26 03:31:03 <hewball> i dont think so
Oct 26 03:32:57 <hewball> i thought there was a HID standard for output input and controls
Oct 26 03:34:33 <ka6sox> I played with OSS a while back...and now PocketSphinx but only dealt with Alsa on that now.
Oct 26 03:35:23 <ka6sox> since PocketSphinx uses the PCM.
Oct 26 03:35:58 <hewball> yeah, i learnt about the USB HID, as the ipad supports that for output too, pretty much what im trying to replicate on the touchpad
Oct 26 03:36:14 <ka6sox> kk
Oct 26 03:36:24 <hewball> no volume controll support but, output
Oct 26 03:37:24 <ka6sox> I'm playing with normalization and compression now...not getting the results I want yet.
Oct 26 04:18:49 <Abyssul> How does one go about packaging a theme into a .ipk
Oct 26 04:24:33 <rwhitby> I believe the Theme Manager wiki page has info on that
Oct 26 04:34:28 <ziplock503> pre3 has been shipped woot !!
Oct 26 04:36:38 <siestacat> hi
Oct 26 04:36:50 <siestacat> can I run my pixi on two networks?
Oct 26 04:37:00 <siestacat> dual NAM style?
Oct 26 04:37:17 <siestacat> pageplus for voice, vzw for data?
Oct 26 04:46:17 <rwhitby> depends whether you are a qualcomm modem firmware developer or not
Oct 26 04:46:53 <Log1x> lol
Oct 26 04:48:13 <siestacat> uh
Oct 26 04:48:44 <siestacat> so there's notjing already established for dual NAM setups?
Oct 26 04:49:07 <ka6sox> siestacat, what carrier does that?
Oct 26 04:49:34 <siestacat> ka6sox : huh?
Oct 26 04:50:00 <siestacat> others have gotten pageplus/verizon dual nam setups working with other phones
Oct 26 04:50:14 <ka6sox> okay this phone is not setup to do that, that I know of.
Oct 26 04:50:22 <ka6sox> see rwhitby's comment
Oct 26 04:50:27 <siestacat> I saw
Oct 26 04:50:30 <siestacat> crap
Oct 26 04:50:52 <siestacat> was hoping to take advantage of vzws free 5gb of tether for free
Oct 26 04:51:13 <rwhitby> ask them how to do it then ;)
Oct 26 04:51:40 <siestacat> I don't have verizon
Oct 26 04:51:55 <hewball> cdma.... Glad telstra got rid of that
Oct 26 04:52:10 <dwc-> why would vzw let non-customers tether 5gb for free?
Oct 26 04:52:29 <siestacat> I would become a customer with some prepaid crap
Oct 26 04:52:32 <siestacat> on second nam
Oct 26 04:52:50 <siestacat> trying to avoid buying a mifi for my touchpad
Oct 26 04:52:52 <rwhitby> as a potential customer, they should talk to you.
Oct 26 04:52:56 <dwc-> wait, so on prepaid they would just give you 5gb? that doesn't make sense too me
Oct 26 04:53:06 <rwhitby> unless they don't consider what you are suggesting to be kosher
Oct 26 04:53:23 <siestacat> they give 5gb of tether to any pixi/pre owner
Oct 26 04:53:45 <ka6sox> whether you have a contract with them or not?
Oct 26 04:54:12 <siestacat> I'd need a plan
Oct 26 04:54:15 <siestacat> not a contract
Oct 26 04:54:31 <ka6sox> okay then you would already be a customer and this convo is moot.
Oct 26 04:55:01 <siestacat> anyone know the cheapest way to tether anything to my touchpad for mobile broadband?
Oct 26 04:55:07 <dwc-> this? http://blog.palm.com/palm/2010/04/no-fooling-with-these-april-savings-tips-1.html?
Oct 26 04:56:02 <wrea> back
Oct 26 04:56:26 <siestacat> dwc-: yep that
Oct 26 04:56:31 <siestacat> still works
Oct 26 04:56:39 <dwc-> guess you should ask them about it then
Oct 26 05:10:20 <siestacat> anyone know cheapest mifi type device I can use for my touchpad?
Oct 26 05:10:56 <rwhitby> siestacat: please see the topic of this channel. #touchpad would be an appropriate place for questions like that
Oct 26 05:12:01 <siestacat> alright, though it would also be used for my #pixi, another #webos device
Oct 26 05:16:27 <ka6sox> pixi + freetether.
Oct 26 05:17:12 <rko> hello
Oct 26 05:18:34 <ka6sox> okay time to pack and drive...can't avoid it any longer :(
Oct 26 05:19:34 <rwhitby> siestacat: yes, there are many things that are done on webOS devices that are off topic in a development channel about webOS internals.
Oct 26 05:23:52 <rko> anyone know how to calibrate the accelerometer in the touchpad?
Oct 26 05:27:56 <ka6sox> rko, not without significant expense.
Oct 26 05:32:54 <rko> hmmm
Oct 26 05:33:07 <rwhitby> well, you could check the values in the tokens
Oct 26 05:33:55 <rko> how do I get to the command prompt to view the tokens?
Oct 26 05:33:56 * ka6sox thinks of calibrating against external reference...forgot to look @ tokens.
Oct 26 05:35:20 <rwhitby> rko: I suggest a significant amount more of self-directed research, since getting to the command line will be the least of your concerns if you want to change the acceleration calibration tokens.
Oct 26 06:14:07 <wrea> hewball, looks like i got avahi compiled
Oct 26 06:14:53 <hewball> awsome
Oct 26 06:15:53 <wrea> disabled libdaemon since that is the only thing that isnt on the tp stock
Oct 26 06:56:09 <hewball> damn....
Oct 26 06:56:21 <hewball> why didnt i try that earlier
Oct 26 06:58:26 <hewball> /etc/pulseaudio/system.pa     changed to line load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0 sink_name=pcm_output mmap=1 tsched=1 channels=2    to use hw:1 restarted pulseaudio and it works
Oct 26 06:58:36 <hewball> no problems making this work now
Oct 26 07:02:15 <wrea> :)
Oct 26 07:03:04 <hewball> its not nice, but it works
Oct 26 07:03:22 <hewball> im sure there is a nicer way to do it
Oct 26 07:06:12 <wrea> http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/CLI ?
Oct 26 07:09:20 <hewball> yeah pacmd gives me No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.
Oct 26 07:11:50 <wrea> Cant use pacmd when in system wide daemon then :\
Oct 26 07:11:53 <wrea> Thats a bummer
Oct 26 07:12:06 <hewball> yeps
Oct 26 07:14:10 <wrea> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/WhatIsWrongWithSystemMode
Oct 26 07:17:08 <hewball> so maybe what i did it correct then, change the output card and then restart, maybe do it via a hotplug script or similar
Oct 26 07:17:41 <wrea> Yeah
Oct 26 07:28:48 <wrea> hewball, pactl ?
Oct 26 07:29:14 <hewball> wrea: what about it?
Oct 26 07:29:34 <wrea> Works with system mode an looks like it works similarly to pacmd
Oct 26 07:30:15 <hewball> it does work yeah, thats how i got list out :D
Oct 26 07:31:05 <hewball> move-sink-input ID SINK    that might work
Oct 26 07:31:18 <wrea> just saw that too
Oct 26 07:33:57 <hewball> yeah that must be what a2dp is doing
Oct 26 07:34:08 <hewball> running that to change sink input
Oct 26 07:37:56 <wrea> Would make the most sense
Oct 26 07:38:53 <wrea> Hmm, palm hasn't released the new source for pulse or sndfile
Oct 26 07:42:33 <wrea> pulse has updated source to 0.9.22 with the 2.2.x source, but libsndfile isnt updated along with it
Oct 26 07:43:13 <wrea> Pulse chokes because it needs >= 1.0.20
Oct 26 08:35:03 <hewball> wrea: from #pulseaudio really need the module-udev-detect to do it correctly
Oct 26 10:36:38 <hi> how to remove preware
Oct 26 10:37:44 <Guest33682> koi to bataey yaar
Oct 26 11:42:58 <think3r> hi, I'm about to try to install ubuntuchroot on my touchpad and I just want to make sure I'm correctly following the instructions for Meta Doctor. I've installed MetaDoctor on my PC (Ubuntu) and downloaded the latest WebOS Doctor file for the touchpad, this is where it all gets a little fuzzy...
Oct 26 11:45:19 <think3r> what do I do from here and where do I find the Makefile?
Oct 26 11:57:01 <think3r> OK, I've found the makefile and I'm running WebOS doctor. All I wanted to do was edit create the partition so I've uncommented that and added touchpad as the device and wifi as the carrier,
Oct 26 14:29:58 <hiddenpremise> Is there a better way other than a child_proc.exec("reboot") to restart a touchpad?
Oct 26 14:39:19 <dwc-> https://github.com/webos-internals/patches/blob/webos-3.0.2/notifications/notifications-advanced-reset-options.patch
Oct 26 14:39:33 <dwc-> suggests there might be a shutdown/reboot service call
Oct 26 14:40:59 <hiddenpremise> dwc-: thanks! I'll check it out
Oct 26 15:15:15 <Darkmagister> thanks all for your support, i don't know why and how, but now with 2 different profile, touch to share work, i leave the pre3 on my touchpad and wualà, touch to share, i have try in the same way for 2 days and nothing, now work :D really good
Oct 26 15:23:48 <EricBlade> so, last night, i installed touchplayer, which does not show up anywhere on my touchpad .. and now preware won't start, getting the "completely stuck" at "reading saved package list".  previously, it used to occasionally be slightly slow at that spot, now it is apparently stuck (unless slightly slow has moved from minutes into tens of minutes)
Oct 26 15:34:11 * EricBlade shrugs. now it went through
Oct 26 15:34:22 <EricBlade> about 20 minutes or so
Oct 26 15:37:39 <Soruk> Usual advice I've seen for that is to reboot the TP. WebOS 3.0.4 bug apparently.
Oct 26 16:00:07 <maypo52> have my TP connected tp my pc, have webos quick install v.4.3.1 running so I can install preware but i cant find it in the list. where is it?
Oct 26 16:00:28 <hiddenpremise> in the apps tab, just earch for "Preware"
Oct 26 16:01:01 <maypo52> did that...not there
Oct 26 16:02:05 <maypo52> dumb question...if it is already installed on TP will it still show up in list or not?
Oct 26 16:02:05 <hiddenpremise> hmm, do you have anything like twitpic where you could post a screenshot?
Oct 26 16:02:11 <hiddenpremise> it will not
Oct 26 16:02:30 <maypo52> AH! thank you :-)
Oct 26 16:03:10 <hiddenpremise> np :)
Oct 26 16:03:54 <maypo52> so any apps that are installed from wosqi will not be kisted if there are already installed. right?
Oct 26 16:04:08 <hiddenpremise> right, that includes patches
Oct 26 16:04:17 <maypo52> thanks again
Oct 26 16:04:19 <hiddenpremise> you can see them if you go to "manage device" (I believe that's right)
Oct 26 16:04:30 <hiddenpremise> no prob, happy homebrewing
Oct 26 16:04:53 <maypo52> cya
Oct 26 16:28:36 <Crix-> i'm having trouble with arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc with macports. i'm using lion, should i just go get it from CodeSourcery and build myself?
Oct 26 16:47:19 <wrea> hewball, Yeah, I need libdaemon afterall :P
Oct 26 17:05:36 <Abyssul> Anyone else occasionally get a "cannot send message. try again" for sms sending?
Oct 26 17:05:45 <Abyssul> Trying to sift through the logs and find a lead
Oct 26 17:37:53 <dwc-> Crix-: doesn't the palm sdk for os x include an arm toolchain?
Oct 26 17:39:34 <Crix-> i just figured that out, added to path and i'm better now
Oct 26 17:43:21 <dwc-> cool
Oct 26 18:22:08 <klausa> wi21
Oct 26 18:22:10 <klausa> Fuck.
Oct 26 18:22:12 <klausa> Sorry.
Oct 26 18:31:50 <Frost> that's a bit short for a password, don't you think?
Oct 26 18:41:08 <Abyssul> lol.
Oct 26 18:41:13 <somehereinyourhe> anyone in?
Oct 26 18:41:29 <Abyssul> Quiet game!
Oct 26 18:43:27 <somehereinyourhe> don't care about games that much. What I do care about is figuring out how to override my pre+ as to access enyo apps from a webOS 2 device. Anyone willing to help?
Oct 26 18:52:36 <dwc-> install the maps app
Oct 26 18:53:34 <somehereinyourhe> I have, but there's nothing new in the app catalog
Oct 26 18:55:51 <EricBlade> that doesn't automatically give you access to Enyo apps, the apps are still pretty much all flagged as being for 2.2+
Oct 26 18:56:31 <EricBlade> there's been some talk of some apps updated for older devices with Enyo popping up soon though
Oct 26 18:56:48 <EricBlade> as soon as i flag down a device, i'll figure out a way to get mine going
Oct 26 18:57:31 <somehereinyourhe> I'll have to keep an eye out then, or try extracting apps from the Pre3 doctor.
Oct 26 18:58:28 <klausa> Frost: That's not a password.
Oct 26 18:58:38 <klausa> That's failed attempt at /win 21
Oct 26 18:58:40 <Frost> klausa: good for you ;)
Oct 26 19:04:48 <Abyssul> What's the point of the Sprint meta doctor for 2.1 if the Verizon 2.1 pre2 doctor works as well?
Oct 26 19:13:55 <acfrazier> curious how there's no channel for SDK usage.
Oct 26 19:15:28 <Darkmagister> why on the touchpad there're not any 3d game demo ?? for example i can not try need for speed
Oct 26 19:16:59 <acfrazier> well, since #cyanogenmod-touchpad doesn't know.. is there a reason why I'm getting "failed to connect to server" in novacom on linux?
Oct 26 19:18:48 <acfrazier> nvm, fixed that.. now it can't find my device.
Oct 26 19:20:42 <acfrazier> but it's clearly being seen by the system..
Oct 26 19:20:48 <acfrazier> [73478.788675] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access     HP       webOS-device     0327 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
Oct 26 19:26:19 <Frost> acfrazier: it might be related to your libusb version
Oct 26 19:26:44 <Frost> what distro and what libusb version are you using?
Oct 26 19:27:30 <acfrazier> Arch64, and according to this.. version 1.0.8-1
Oct 26 19:27:50 <acfrazier> I do have the lib32 version installed, since it appears novacom is 32-bit
Oct 26 19:29:04 <acfrazier> and the 64-bit is also isntalled, same 1.0.8-1 version
Oct 26 19:29:46 <Frost> did it work before, and have you tried this: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_archlinux
Oct 26 19:32:06 <acfrazier> ah, sweet.
Oct 26 19:32:09 <acfrazier> works with that AUR package.
Oct 26 19:32:29 <Frost> the wiki is a great place :)
Oct 26 19:35:37 <wrea> been almost 5 years since I last used Arch
Oct 26 19:35:58 <Frost> same here
Oct 26 21:09:08 <wrea> hewball, I got avahi compiled. Just need to work on some packaging things like an upstart script
Oct 27 00:10:14 <Darkmagister> how can i add a ssl certificate manually ? because i'm tring to add an imap account with ssl but the certificate is not correct, and i can not touch it, so i'm receiving an error, can i add it in some way ?? i have a touchpad
Oct 27 00:10:53 <klausa> you must have .pem file, copy it over to your touchpad and install it manually
Oct 27 00:10:58 <klausa> Pain in the ass.
Oct 27 00:11:14 <Darkmagister> how can i take the pem file ???
Oct 27 00:11:51 <Darkmagister> you know if there a way to download the pem file from a ssl imap server ?
Oct 27 00:14:59 <Darkmagister> there's a bug on the photo application (i don't know if also is in other app) if i send a photo from there, the signature of the email is the default one not the custom, i have to choose the other emaila ccount and come back to have the correct signature
Oct 27 00:24:33 <dwc-> Darkmagister: openssl s_client will show it to you
Oct 27 00:24:44 <cat-xeger> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bhorowitz/~3/4k7xTblHr0I/#rssowlmlink
Oct 27 00:24:51 <cat-xeger> Whoops, sorry.
Oct 27 00:24:58 <Darkmagister> dwc- ok, let me try
Oct 27 00:25:56 <Darkmagister> because i've never used it so i don't know how it's work
Oct 27 00:35:05 <Darkmagister> gethostbyname failure
Oct 27 00:35:05 <Darkmagister> connect:errno=0
Oct 27 00:35:22 <Darkmagister> using openssl s_client -connect host:465
Oct 27 00:44:05 <dwc-> then your dns is broke
Oct 27 00:47:36 <Darkmagister> mmm now it's work, and i was able to retreive the certificate, now work :D thanks for the help
Oct 27 00:50:12 <Darkmagister> ok same thing in the pre3
Oct 27 00:51:35 <Darkmagister> you know if i have to take the pem file on the data partition or if i can remove it ?
Oct 27 00:52:25 <dwc-> I dunno what you did with it to make it work, so that's hard to answer
Oct 27 01:07:18 <Darkmagister> i only copy to media internal the pem file open the certificate app, add it trust it and finish
Oct 27 01:07:49 <Darkmagister> now i have to go to sleep see you all tomorrow with more questions :D bye and thanks
Oct 27 01:26:57 <mberg> Hrm.
Oct 27 01:27:07 <mberg> novaterm into my own device, fine
Oct 27 01:27:17 <mberg> noveterm into my wife's, "unable to find device"
Oct 27 01:38:39 <mberg> Oh, wait.  I never put hers into developer mode.
Oct 27 01:38:46 <mberg> *slaps forehead*
Oct 27 01:39:48 <trout> speaking of novaterm, is anyone working on a proper terminal ipk or patching SDLTerminal for touchpad?
Oct 27 01:43:18 <wrea> xecutah + xterm works pretty well
Oct 27 01:46:38 <nate_> what is this?
Oct 27 02:06:17 <jmichaelx> anyone else getting ipkg 'unreversed patch' errors upon trying to upgrade (or remove) the dropped packet patch?
Oct 27 02:16:06 <mberg> Okay, gotta say, bless you Palm for using JSON for your database and providing command line tools for querying.
Oct 27 02:17:19 * mberg just recovered some docs writepadhd appeared to eat with one luna-send command and two lines of ruby.
Oct 27 02:30:05 <ashi_> neat
Oct 27 02:30:44 <jmichaelx> anyone else getting ipkg 'unreversed patch' errors upon trying to upgrade (or remove) the dropped packet patch?
Oct 27 02:31:35 <mberg> This is actually sufficient to dump the docs: luna-send -n 1 -a com.avnerarbel.writepadhdr luna://com.palm.db/find '{"query":{"from":"enyo.writepadhddb:1"}}'
Oct 27 02:31:56 * mberg hasn't tried applying that patch.
Oct 27 02:44:32 <fudge_i3> hi all
Oct 27 02:45:52 <fudge_i3> anyone can gimme a logical explanation why my pree dosent catch phone calls
Oct 27 02:51:50 <cat-xeger> sunspots
Oct 27 02:58:54 <fudge_i3> any way i can figure out the imei of my phone
Oct 27 02:59:04 <fudge_i3> esn* wihtout looking at the sticker
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