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Nov 01 05:02:52 <foad_> will new preware version update over old preware version or do I have to uninstall old preware version first?
Nov 01 05:03:32 <dwc-> update it from preware
Nov 01 05:05:10 <foad_> thank you, will try
Nov 01 05:05:52 <rwhitby> note that the Preware wiki page specifically covers that point
Nov 01 05:06:16 <rwhitby> foad_: perhaps you might like to read that documentation page to get lots of other good information too
Nov 01 05:07:43 <foad_> I found webod survival kit wiki
Nov 01 05:09:27 <foad_> OK I see within preware updates, thank you
Nov 01 05:14:53 <foad_> all updated OK except "muffle system logging" received update error
Nov 01 05:17:02 <rwhitby> yep, the "Important Notes" in the patching section of http://bit.ly/phd-ac mentions that
Nov 01 05:17:47 <foad_> thank you
Nov 01 06:23:03 <arief> do I need to remove patches / apps from preware before updating to 3.0.4 from 3.0.2 ?
Nov 01 06:57:18 <ka6sox> arief, always good to remove patches first as the often break.
Nov 01 06:57:50 <ka6sox> s/the/they/
Nov 01 06:57:52 <infobot> ka6sox meant: arief, always good to remove patches first as they often break.
Nov 01 06:58:45 <arief> infobot is pretty cool bot.
Nov 01 06:58:57 <ka6sox> yup
Nov 01 07:02:57 <dwc-> you can have preware save the list of your patches first though
Nov 01 07:03:09 <keith> hrm, I got a pre3 vzw and tried to install uberkernel and it told me that the kernel is not in a default state so couldn't install it
Nov 01 07:03:09 <dwc-> and use that to try to reinstall them all
Nov 01 07:03:16 <keith> but it is the default kernel..
Nov 01 07:05:14 <arief> dwc-: That's very good tips. How to save the list?
Nov 01 07:09:53 <dwc-> from the dropdown menu, "saved package list"
Nov 01 07:10:05 <dwc-> update it before you upgrade
Nov 01 07:10:30 <dwc-> well, update it, remove your patches, upgrade to 3.0.4, use the "install all" to try to bring them back
Nov 01 07:14:28 <keith> i guess i gotta doctor
Nov 01 07:14:29 <keith> :(
Nov 01 07:18:10 <arief> dwc-: it installed to the /media/internal right? so the list of patches won't be lost when doctoring
Nov 01 07:19:22 <arief> s/installed/is saved
Nov 01 07:19:44 <arief> s/installed/is saved/
Nov 01 07:19:45 <infobot> arief meant: s/is saved/is saved
Nov 01 07:20:06 <arief> dwc-: it installed to the /media/internal right? so the list of patches won't be lost when doctoring
Nov 01 07:20:07 <arief> s/installed/is saved/
Nov 01 07:20:08 <infobot> arief meant: dwc-: it is saved to the /media/internal right? so the list of patches won't be lost when doctoring
Nov 01 07:21:21 <hucksy> keith: install the recovery kernel, then uberkernel
Nov 01 07:44:34 <keith> wheres the rocvery kernel?
Nov 01 07:44:46 <keith> or do you mean the palm one? i only see two on my list
Nov 01 07:46:18 <keith> nice it is the palm kernel
Nov 01 07:46:47 <hucksy> yep
Nov 01 07:47:40 <hucksy> not exactly the build for your webos 2.2 version, but i had the same problem and it worked for my
Nov 01 07:47:47 <hucksy> s/my/me
Nov 01 08:11:52 <LunohoD> dtzWill: we can make a patch, that will change the key code in the qmap file
Nov 01 08:30:05 <rwhitby> keith: what version of webOS is on that device?  click on the version number in device info to get the build number
Nov 01 08:30:15 <Shorty_> mm
Nov 01 15:14:43 <keith> rwhitby: 2.2.3 1218. I now got uberkernel installed, but still dont have the screenstate governors or any oc settings in govnah
Nov 01 17:28:18 <Doug8796> hey guys.. just got my touchpad.. is the latest warhog kernel out for 3.0.4?
Nov 01 17:29:02 <dwc-> yes.
Nov 01 17:29:18 <jtrucks> Doug8796: cool!
Nov 01 17:30:07 <Doug8796> do i need to compile it myself or is there a precompiled kernel?
Nov 01 17:31:41 <jtrucks> it's in preware's feeds
Nov 01 17:32:05 <dwc-> you can always compile your own kernels
Nov 01 17:32:06 <Doug8796> it allows for 1.9ghz right?
Nov 01 17:32:32 <dwc-> not all hardware will go to 1.9
Nov 01 17:32:39 <jcsullins> Doug8796: u will need to enable beta and/or alpha feeds
Nov 01 17:33:34 <Doug8796> dwc i understand that
Nov 01 17:34:27 <jtrucks> I'd be nervous about overclocking that high.
Nov 01 17:34:41 <jtrucks> I can't afford to buy a new tablet and new TPs aren't exactly easy to find :P
Nov 01 17:40:00 <Doug8796> so tp is more efficient in 3.0.4 right?
Nov 01 17:51:00 <jtrucks> yes
Nov 01 17:51:03 <jtrucks> very much so.
Nov 01 17:51:17 <jtrucks> more than just kernel tweaks, so installing a non-stock kernel just makes it even better
Nov 01 17:51:28 <jtrucks> still have to kill dropped packet logging and turn down system logging.
Nov 01 17:51:35 <jtrucks> but it's a lot snappier
Nov 01 18:36:40 <Doug8796> im trying to enable beta and alpha
Nov 01 18:40:20 <sethronTP> ~testing feeds
Nov 01 18:40:20 <infobot> nothing
Nov 01 18:44:29 <Doug8796> damn so i have to open command line :|
Nov 01 18:47:56 <dwc-> ~testing-feeds
Nov 01 18:47:57 <infobot> i guess testing-feeds is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://testing.preware.org - always use that URL and never copy any of the instructions anywhere else.
Nov 01 18:48:10 <ka6sox> Doug8796, maybe you might not want to do that then :D
Nov 01 18:48:11 <dwc-> if a command line scares you
Nov 01 18:48:29 <dwc-> you might want to reconsider being a tester
Nov 01 18:48:36 <Doug8796> command line killed my parents
Nov 01 18:48:59 <dwc-> well, just fyi, if you need to fix anything that a beta test breaks, you'll probably need to make use of it
Nov 01 18:59:45 <grep_awesome> Doug8796: there are over 9000 ways to screw up if you aren't comfortable with command line, be careful
Nov 01 21:37:34 <SkyRyder> Hi
Nov 01 21:37:42 <SkyRyder> I have a broken palm pixi
Nov 01 21:37:49 <SkyRyder> the touch screen is unresponsive
Nov 01 21:38:03 <SkyRyder> is there a way i can transfer contacts without the use of the touchscreen
Nov 01 21:39:18 <kai_office> SkyRyder: Is it enough that your contacts are stored in the palm cloud?
Nov 01 21:39:26 <kai_office> Or do you need to sync your contacts to another non-webOS device?
Nov 01 21:40:26 <SkyRyder> no im syncing it to a palm pixi plus
Nov 01 21:41:51 <SkyRyder> how do i access it on the palm cloud
Nov 01 21:42:18 <SkyRyder> i never backedup to the cloud
Nov 01 21:42:26 <SkyRyder> because i dind't have a data plan
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