**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 02 02:59:57 2011 Dec 02 03:58:00 after the 2.1 upgrade, is my palm profile supposed to say 2.1? Dec 02 04:01:55 depends on which device you have Dec 02 04:02:07 as long as its not 9.9.9 Dec 02 04:03:40 pre minus Dec 02 04:04:10 if it's a sprint device, it should say 2.1 Dec 02 04:04:18 awesome Dec 02 04:04:33 for others, it may be 1.4.5 or 2.1, depending on whether that combination has to be masqued or not. Dec 02 04:04:46 the wiki page is very clear on what each option results in Dec 02 04:09:49 anyone ever made a task=manager app? Dec 02 04:11:22 os "task" or human "tasks" Dec 02 04:11:29 (me? no to both) Dec 02 04:12:12 os Dec 02 04:12:29 like jstop? Dec 02 04:12:38 never heard of it Dec 02 04:12:50 it's homebrew, check it out Dec 02 04:13:05 will do Dec 02 04:13:20 thanks for telling me Dec 02 04:18:32 someone ping me ot something Dec 02 04:18:38 xchat has this chan in red but nothing in my backlog Dec 02 04:22:53 PuffTheMagic, ping Dec 02 04:23:37 ya? Dec 02 04:24:21 nvm, misread what you just wrote Dec 02 04:24:33 Apparently I need more caffeine Dec 02 04:26:49 so if you misread what he wrote, does it come otu as what he meant? Dec 02 04:29:02 i failed to include a ? Dec 02 04:33:40 jStop reports 40MB memory usage. is that enough to delay an incoming phone call? Dec 02 04:34:32 how does memory usage translate into delay? Dec 02 04:35:20 dunno, i noticed i only get 5 seconds to pick up a phone call from the time the phone gets the call Dec 02 04:35:39 after that it says "missed call" Dec 02 05:42:54 Save/Restore has taken over the settings from my Pre3 to my TP... I didn't find out where Save/Restore stores its settings so I could reset them... does anyone know? Dec 02 05:46:07 that wouldn't have happened unless you copied stuff from your media partition over, and then done an explicit restore Dec 02 05:47:11 dwc-: hmm, yes... I probably did this... the problem is: Save/Restore tries now to backup from /var/luna/data/dbdata/PalmDatabase.db3 etc. so a lot of the backups fail Dec 02 05:47:23 (the suggestively named "saverestore" directory there to be exact) Dec 02 05:48:55 dwc-: /media/internals/saverestore is only the backup target, but not, where Save/Restore stores its preferences Dec 02 05:49:10 I'd simply like to wipe the preferences of Save/Restore, that's all Dec 02 05:52:36 I didn't think saverestore had any preferences to restore such that they could be overridden from a backup of its prefs Dec 02 05:52:42 from another device Dec 02 05:53:32 so I have the same "not saved" bits for the palm apps looking for the same file Dec 02 05:53:39 dwc-: didn't think so to, but it looks like it has... I have no other explanation for the behaviour trying to backp /var/luna/data/dbdata/PalmDatabase.db3 ... Dec 02 05:54:03 oh, ok.. so it's probably a Save/Restore bug and not due to some restored preferences... Dec 02 05:54:23 just delete the directory from /media/internal/saverestore Dec 02 05:54:35 for the things you don't want to be listed as candidates to reinstall Dec 02 05:54:49 it's not the restore, it's the saving Dec 02 05:54:56 rwhitby: that's what I already did, I was just confused by the entries in the "Save" list which fail Dec 02 05:55:21 those sound like a bug, can you report in the save/restore forum thread? Dec 02 05:55:34 rwhitby: ok, I'll report it there... thanks a lot so far! Dec 02 05:55:56 or you can remove the relevant scripts from /var/svc/org.webosinternals.saverestore/ Dec 02 05:57:44 this just reveals another bug... this time in Internalz Pro... :) gonna use XTerm Dec 02 05:58:04 Internalz Pro isn't actively maintained anymore, isn't it? Dec 02 05:59:18 what makes you say that? Dec 02 05:59:52 JayCanuck (it's developer) is still active on twitter Dec 02 06:00:18 rwhitby: oh, ok... must have gotten the wrong impression then... I'll notify him about the bug in IP Dec 02 06:08:26 folks Dec 02 06:09:56 hey bhuey Dec 02 06:10:08 hey how's it going ? Dec 02 06:10:16 good Dec 02 06:10:27 pretty quiet over here still folk still leaving Dec 02 06:10:49 =\ Dec 02 06:10:57 rwhitby: Save/Restore issue reported: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/237558-save-restore-community-development-86.html#post3256037 Dec 02 06:10:57 no shit Dec 02 06:11:20 eliasp_: th Dec 02 06:11:24 x Dec 02 06:11:27 :) Dec 02 07:11:45 rwhitby: how is sconix's advanced patch for veer/vzw generated? my pinyin patches for veer still fail. the ipk contains patch with .rej inside (before actually patching) Dec 02 07:12:02 sconix uploads to the repo directly Dec 02 07:14:02 is sconix subscribe to support@webos-internals.org? i'll mail the problem there Dec 02 07:14:24 ~seen sconix Dec 02 07:14:29 sconix <~sconix@a88-113-12-113.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 1d 3h 2m 25s ago, saying: 'but almost all daemons have the -f i.e. foreground option so you can make the upstart script without daemonizing the daemon, I think... well now good night, talk to you later'. Dec 02 07:28:24 morning guys Dec 02 07:28:34 hi Dec 02 07:29:28 using impostah for example, is there any way to make a pre 3 look like a pre/pre2 for the app catalog for a short time Dec 02 07:29:36 ? Dec 02 07:30:11 App Tuckerbox can install Pre/Pre2 apps on a Pre 3. Dec 02 07:30:38 Really? Any way I could get in? Dec 02 07:31:36 be leet, buy 200 paid apps.... Dec 02 07:31:42 lol Dec 02 07:31:56 not really^^ but I have 84 Dec 02 07:32:14 (of which about 30 are usable/installable on the pre3 -.-) Dec 02 07:32:18 * dwc- fails on the "use twitter" part I think Dec 02 07:32:47 I've only just actually started using the twitter account i made years ago Dec 02 07:34:52 i fail on the cant buy the apps i want front, so my numbers are way too low Dec 02 07:35:03 * dwc- "uses" his for taking amazon's mp3/video money Dec 02 07:36:04 (I wouldn't sellout and spam anyone if I did use it) Dec 02 07:36:35 * rwhitby may make exceptions for folks on IRC Dec 02 07:36:57 rwhitby: does it allow buying of apps? Dec 02 07:37:05 that are say not in the AU store? Dec 02 07:37:09 it's just annoying...two days ago i doctored my pre 3 to a fresh 2.2.0, now 9 more apps are not installable because they made them pre/pre2 only Dec 02 07:37:16 no. just installation of stuff you have already bought Dec 02 07:37:33 ahh that makes sense really Dec 02 07:37:40 well, that would help a lot already @rwhitby Dec 02 08:11:32 Carrier IQ, is that not a valid concern for webOS? Dec 02 08:21:01 precentral has an article on that Dec 02 08:21:06 sconix, working on pulse modules for 0.9.14 too Dec 02 08:36:33 Sorry, messing with seeing if i can get more than just quickoffice to run on my pixi Dec 02 08:36:50 rwhitby: any idea on my problem? ->pm Dec 02 08:58:46 QuickOffice is awesome on 1.4.5, now to try a few other non-criticals and then the browser :D Dec 02 09:02:33 VPN doesn't work, but it launches. It can't load the agents. I think maybe its a file that was in /palm/bin likely Dec 02 09:03:27 FTP tester doesnt work Dec 02 09:05:17 Installing Clock from Veer webOS fixed my non-working 1.4.5 clock! Dec 02 09:08:06 Should I attempt to upgrade the camera/browser apps? Dec 02 09:20:05 neither will launch pre-reboot, going to try other apps Dec 02 09:20:05 is there a possibility to buy an app (earth and legend) on a pre3 which was only published for the pre/pre2? Dec 02 09:20:25 if the app is marked as compatible for pre3, sure Dec 02 09:20:44 no, it's just for pre/pre3 Dec 02 09:20:50 er, pre2 Dec 02 09:21:19 So not marked as compatible? then it won't show up in the appstore Dec 02 09:21:28 you may be able to use Impostah to change the device id, not sure though Dec 02 09:21:29 nope Dec 02 09:21:30 i dont use impostah Dec 02 09:21:46 ya i thought about that Dec 02 09:21:56 but i dont know what to put in there Dec 02 09:21:56 and? did you try it? Dec 02 09:23:15 me either, i dont have a pre3 Dec 02 09:23:26 my pre2 is sitting here, but i dont want it to boot me off my pixi if i turn it on Dec 02 09:23:35 hmm... Dec 02 09:23:52 does impostah haev a help? maybe device ids are listed there Dec 02 09:25:34 HAH, text assist seems to work Dec 02 09:27:08 trying to hybridize webos 2.x onto my 1.4.5 pixi :D Dec 02 09:27:09 its fun Dec 02 09:27:16 i'll probably need to doctor this bitch soon haha Dec 02 09:47:04 is there a fix for the messaging app in 2.2.X? Dec 02 09:47:39 allows 1 exchange and then no more Dec 02 09:48:02 oh Sprint-Pre2 Dec 02 09:48:12 and pre3 too :D Dec 02 09:48:17 (vzw) Dec 02 09:50:27 no idea man Dec 02 09:50:32 the messaging on webos is a mess Dec 02 09:50:37 i cant even add an AIM account :| Dec 02 09:53:28 hm, its hard to tell if the apps are different between 1.4.5 and 2.x Dec 02 09:53:34 is the browser any different in webos 2.x? Dec 02 09:55:29 how about the camera app? Dec 02 09:55:32 any differences? Dec 02 09:57:11 hm, does webos replace modified system files with "ghost" image upon reboot? Dec 02 10:29:05 webos 2.x app cat works under 1.4.5 with no issues! Dec 02 10:30:42 hm, the preferences & accounts button is grayed so maybe not NO issues Dec 02 10:31:50 cant download apps for 2.x, it still reads your palm profile string correctly it seems. Its slicker than the 1.4.5 one though Dec 02 10:34:06 Saij_ what are you doing? Dec 02 10:34:49 systematically destroying my webos 1.4.5 install on my pixi+ by creating ipkgs off the webos 2.x apps from a Veer doctor and applying them to my device to see what works and what doesn't Dec 02 10:34:52 some success so far Dec 02 10:36:09 mh wasnt there a 2.x port by NuttyBunny? Dec 02 10:36:18 yeah, I dont want to run full-on 2.x Dec 02 10:36:27 Oo okay^ Dec 02 10:36:38 I prefer some aspects of 1.4.5, namely the fact that the pixi can sort of run it whereas it can barely run 2.x Dec 02 10:36:52 also, i cant stand the ugly launcher in 2.x :| Dec 02 10:37:12 but I may have to go 2.x way soon, I want me some functionality that 1.4.5 is missing Dec 02 10:37:35 so far clock and app store work, as well as quickofffice, updates, and software manager and wifi Dec 02 10:37:40 and how about a veer? they are really cheep Dec 02 10:37:45 VPN launches but fails to find files Dec 02 10:37:52 got one for my gf and it's really cool Dec 02 10:37:54 I've been trying to get a veer. my price cutoff is 50$ Dec 02 10:37:58 I HATE sliders Dec 02 10:38:03 the pixi is the perfect form factor IMO Dec 02 10:38:04 hm well Dec 02 10:38:09 but the hardware is shit Dec 02 10:38:11 its so anemic Dec 02 10:38:16 ya Dec 02 10:38:50 i'll get a veer soon, i need the hardware power it has Dec 02 10:38:54 its so slick, i love it Dec 02 10:39:01 just wish it was a fixed slate with full keyboard Dec 02 10:40:01 well...but it's a nice little toy though Dec 02 10:40:22 yeah Dec 02 10:40:31 I have a pre2 but its just sitting in its box C Dec 02 10:40:35 its too large for me Dec 02 10:41:33 what do you do with itß Dec 02 10:41:35 ? Dec 02 10:41:47 what, the pre2? Dec 02 10:41:55 bought it unlocked, used it for about 3 hours, put it back in its box Dec 02 10:42:03 it now holds up two sheets of paper Dec 02 10:42:18 xD Dec 02 10:42:29 if you dont need it anymore to hold the paper... ;) Dec 02 10:42:32 its gorgeous Dec 02 10:42:43 it has about 4-6 lazy pixels on its screen, that is the only defect Dec 02 10:42:49 if the screen isn't 100% black they go away Dec 02 10:43:03 ok Dec 02 10:43:06 how much would you wnat to pay? Its unlocked GSM in box Dec 02 10:43:20 mh i dont know what its worth Dec 02 10:43:33 haha Dec 02 10:43:34 me either Dec 02 10:43:50 i can only tell you what i paid Dec 02 10:44:23 so? Dec 02 10:44:34 115 Dec 02 10:48:47 hm no Dec 02 10:49:31 would've been only my rescue device if something happened to my pre3 Dec 02 10:49:45 sorry, that is what i paid for it Dec 02 10:50:05 they go for more than that on ebay Dec 02 10:50:10 but yeah, its useless to me as well Dec 02 10:50:15 ugly form factor, too fat Dec 02 10:50:17 sure, no problem Dec 02 10:50:19 how is the pre3? Dec 02 10:50:43 well, i had one and loved it. now i got the 3 and sold the 2 for 70$ ;) Dec 02 10:50:49 its an amazing device Dec 02 10:51:07 you sold your pre2 for 70? I got ganked! haha Dec 02 10:52:18 well, it was to a fellow developer and i got it for low as a dev device so... Dec 02 10:52:39 what do dev devices go for? I heard 50 for Veers Dec 02 10:52:47 I want to make an app, I just cant program well :C Dec 02 10:52:56 i'd even pay someone to make apps/patches for me Dec 02 10:52:59 ;) Dec 02 10:53:13 that's what i love in webOS Dec 02 10:53:14 hey speaking of, do you patch? Dec 02 10:53:24 programming apps is quite easy Dec 02 10:53:25 easy to program for, or so i've heard Dec 02 10:53:28 no, never did so Dec 02 10:53:29 basically just web Dec 02 10:53:36 ya Dec 02 10:53:50 well, tell me if you think this is possible Dec 02 10:54:02 an app that "whitelists" access to the 3g radio so that only messaging app can use it Dec 02 10:54:12 i want to be able to keep my 3g radio on without incurring a dataplan Dec 02 10:54:36 some kinda firewall? mh possible sure, somehow... Dec 02 10:54:49 you could emulate that using mode switcher Dec 02 10:55:14 never used that prog Dec 02 10:55:46 you could set 3g off as standard (would save energy too) Dec 02 10:56:12 and create a mode to activate it once an app (messaging for example) is started Dec 02 10:56:34 my concern is other apps in the background hopping on the radio Dec 02 10:56:39 for instance my email app, or etc Dec 02 10:56:49 i simply want them to never be able to pull data through 3g, only WiFi radio Dec 02 10:57:17 hm that too much for MS Dec 02 10:57:24 haha :P Dec 02 10:57:24 dont know how to do that Dec 02 10:57:32 figured, i make complex requests Dec 02 10:57:34 im bad that way Dec 02 10:57:40 ;) Dec 02 10:58:25 im going to be so surprised if this device works after this reboot Dec 02 10:58:26 haha Dec 02 10:58:32 xD Dec 02 10:58:45 its not bad so far, the new appcat is certainly nice Dec 02 10:58:50 where do you put in promo codes? Dec 02 10:58:52 well, most times it reverts appcat and so on back to normal Dec 02 10:58:53 i dont see that feature Dec 02 10:59:13 yeah, it reverted a lot of apps i "updated" Dec 02 10:59:16 if you buy an app you can choose wether to use code or buy Dec 02 10:59:16 annoying :C Dec 02 10:59:21 ahh nice okay Dec 02 11:00:06 how does it re-image the stock system applications? Dec 02 11:00:10 think there was a trick to prevent it from doing that... Dec 02 11:00:15 its pretty cool on the one hand, but its also annoying Dec 02 11:00:17 i dont know Dec 02 11:00:39 it fixed my broken clock, so i'm happy Dec 02 11:00:45 i was going to doctor just to fix that Dec 02 11:00:57 http://www.precentral.net/install-webos-2-1-app-catalog-webos-1-4-5-and-2-0-1-phones-not-you-too-can-use-promo-codes Dec 02 11:01:02 hm no trick Dec 02 11:01:10 Saij_, okay please fix the messaging app? Dec 02 11:02:10 damn,no trick indeed Dec 02 11:02:17 hm? how will i fix it? Dec 02 11:02:31 I'm no programmer :D I'm just trying to hackupdate this stupid pixi Dec 02 11:02:48 i paid NuttyBunny a donation to fix the Messaging Plugins that Greg Roll was maintaining Dec 02 11:03:07 +1 for that Dec 02 11:03:08 its been 8mo since I've been able to use any IM protocol on my webOS device, and frankly I'm pissed Dec 02 11:03:27 he's also gone incommunicado which I dont like Dec 02 11:03:57 its whatever though... i guess there are the 3rd party paid apps, but those have mixed reviews Dec 02 11:04:31 and they are expensive Dec 02 11:04:39 that too Dec 02 11:04:47 agile for icq, msn,... about 10$ Dec 02 11:04:50 i wish webOS had time/expire trials for apps Dec 02 11:04:57 ya absolutely Dec 02 11:05:28 did it at one point? Dec 02 11:05:53 well.... if the developers dont submit a trial - no Dec 02 11:06:09 should be mandatory :\ Dec 02 11:06:17 absolutely Dec 02 11:06:40 they could offer the full apps with a deadline of maybe 7 days of usage Dec 02 11:06:44 mundu is cheaper and apparently mostly sometimes works Dec 02 11:06:55 but i think that would be easily crackable Dec 02 11:06:57 even 7 days is a lot. I think android dropped it to 24hr or 1hr Dec 02 11:07:05 ya but mundu doesnt offer icq Dec 02 11:07:25 odd, ICQ is same as AIM Dec 02 11:07:59 OSCAR Dec 02 11:08:02 or used to be OSCAR Dec 02 11:08:14 ka6s0x, what device are you using? Dec 02 11:09:05 on webOS 1.x you could use synergy aim for icq, but not under 2.x ++ Dec 02 11:09:41 I thought synergy was not present in 1.x, only 2.x/3.x Dec 02 11:09:55 there were binary plugins though (the greg roll/nutty bunny) ones Dec 02 11:09:58 sure it was Dec 02 11:10:30 really? Dec 02 11:11:20 ya? it always was THE feature in webos ;) Dec 02 11:12:47 maybe it was plugins that was only 2.x/3.x Dec 02 11:12:56 maybe^ Dec 02 11:13:38 lets see what happens when i install Veer Messaging on my pixi :D Dec 02 11:13:47 god, this thing is going to implode Dec 02 11:13:58 poor pixi^ Dec 02 11:14:22 it asked for it haha Dec 02 11:14:37 i wanna get VPN working Dec 02 11:14:53 crap i killed the messaging client Dec 02 11:15:00 didnt work anyway :D Dec 02 11:15:07 ;) Dec 02 11:15:44 now to break email Dec 02 11:16:04 Saij_, Pre2 Dec 02 11:16:17 ah nice. You've tried the synergy plugins then, right? Dec 02 11:16:54 no Dec 02 11:17:05 I should look into those Dec 02 11:17:19 yeah Dec 02 11:17:21 the issue is it works for 1 exchange and then stops working. Dec 02 11:17:27 i've read that Dec 02 11:17:29 not sure they fix it Dec 02 11:17:35 someone had a hackish workaround Dec 02 11:18:10 did it involve Crowbars and Ball Peen Hammers? Dec 02 11:18:20 I think it was less hardware hackish :P Dec 02 11:18:32 I think it was something like forwarding the other exchange to a gmail or something insane Dec 02 11:19:35 since it appears as if google doesn't like webos anymore...and barely worked for gmail on the pre2...I kind of doubt thats gonna help much (and be REAL hacky) Dec 02 11:20:22 yeah man, sorry Dec 02 11:20:31 i dont use my pre2 at all haha, not too up on webos 2.x stuff Dec 02 11:23:09 i wish i could even get aim/gchat to work Dec 02 11:23:11 such a joke man Dec 02 11:23:19 even with the stupid plugins it wont work Dec 02 11:23:34 aim is not like an uncommon protocol Dec 02 11:23:38 atleast not in the US its not Dec 02 11:31:11 time to hunt for a veer Dec 02 17:43:36 ka6sox: I haven't had issues with the messaging app (pre2) ... haven't been really messaging on the pre3 yet Dec 02 17:45:46 dwc-: stupid question, how do I set enter (on messaging) to put on new paragraph instead of send message? Dec 02 17:49:08 you could probably patch the app to do that, but I don't know off-hand exactly Dec 02 17:49:22 there might be one to do that already Dec 02 17:49:40 I see, I'll lurk into forum again, I guess.. Dec 02 17:50:40 check preware, someone might have done that already Dec 02 18:24:42 woohoo! Dec 02 19:01:05 Mousey: ? Dec 02 19:05:00 hey Dec 02 19:05:09 is it a huge deal to get preware on a touchpad? Dec 02 19:09:38 no Dec 02 19:09:47 same as getting preware on a pre Dec 02 19:10:28 yay Dec 02 19:10:33 * Mousey huggles cxreg Dec 02 19:10:55 ... that's not creepy Dec 02 19:10:57 any news on the OS's future overlords? Dec 02 19:11:10 no, we're in limbo Dec 02 19:11:12 * Mousey 's been outta touch Dec 02 19:11:21 gods dammit Dec 02 19:11:34 (battlestar galactica speak, there) Dec 02 19:11:35 (not that that's a new spot for us to be) Dec 02 19:11:39 i fear it will be "you're all fired, merry christmas" Dec 02 19:11:54 nobody likes my kickstarter idea Dec 02 19:12:18 oh? Dec 02 19:12:18 =( Dec 02 19:12:28 how many hundreds of millions of dollars does kickstarter go up to? Dec 02 19:12:52 does HP really think it'll be that much? Dec 02 19:13:11 * oilsworkn has a $10 in his pocket Dec 02 19:13:17 i have 23! Dec 02 19:13:21 we're almost there! Dec 02 19:13:23 :D Dec 02 19:44:55 r0d3nt! Dec 02 20:46:39 hello Dec 02 21:52:04 hey ka6sox! just got a touchpad! Dec 02 21:52:44 kewlies! Dec 02 21:52:47 ^_^ Dec 02 21:52:53 i won't be putting android on it Dec 02 21:52:55 =P Dec 02 21:53:01 thanks. Dec 02 21:53:08 Xserver however ^_^ Dec 02 21:53:13 yes Dec 02 21:53:22 we LOVE it. Dec 02 21:53:25 ^_^ Dec 02 21:54:39 :D Dec 02 21:54:46 also, hi all, ka6sox ^.^ Dec 02 21:55:15 in traditional student style I disappear as the semester comes to an end... hehe :) Dec 02 21:55:33 yup yup....figured that. Dec 02 22:07:00 Wondering if anyone knows if i need to define different tokens on my verizon pre2 to swap an unlocked gsm comm board into it ? Dec 02 22:07:43 or if bypass model check /carrier check will be enough ? Dec 02 22:38:27 hmm im probably looking for this "meta-verizon-franken-unlocked-pre2-2.1.0" Dec 02 22:44:56 nope Dec 02 22:45:01 anyaround ? Dec 02 23:29:50 is there a difference between wirc in the app catalog or in preware? Dec 02 23:32:40 not that I know of... they have different App ID's Dec 02 23:32:43 but that's about it Dec 02 23:32:58 ok. thanks! Dec 02 23:32:59 get the app catalog one if you want to donate, if you don't want to donate get the preware one Dec 02 23:33:28 or get the preware one... decide you like it and then want to donate, remove the preware one and get the app cat one ;) Dec 02 23:33:41 thats what it thought, but i just wanted to make sure... i would donate but i got no money... just spent it all on a touchpad :P Dec 02 23:33:56 think of it as "try it before you buy it" but with no time limit or other restrictions Dec 02 23:34:21 haha awesome! Dec 02 23:35:45 I sneezed and threw out my back Dec 02 23:44:36 I would recommend not doing that anymore Dec 02 23:45:25 uggh getting the 12% doctoring problem Dec 02 23:46:12 CPU-specific initialization failed Dec 02 23:46:12 Dec 2, 2011 3:40:46 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController logPrint Dec 02 23:46:12 INFO: Trenchcoat: Broken pipe Dec 02 23:46:50 followed the "disconnects at 8% instructions" on the wiki Dec 02 23:46:55 still getting it Dec 02 23:47:15 tried running hte doctor in ubuntu and windows, with different cables and different usb ports.. Dec 02 23:47:27 did the mem boot thing.. Dec 02 23:47:39 nightburn: retry Dec 02 23:47:43 anyone have any other advice Dec 02 23:47:49 sometimes it takes 15 times to get past that Dec 02 23:47:57 i've retried probably 6 or 7 times now Dec 02 23:48:00 lol okay wow Dec 02 23:48:49 rwhitby: since i hvae your attention , id like to know how i can get my verizon pre2 meta doctored to work with unlocked gsm comm board? is there a script for that? Dec 02 23:48:57 do i need to do something specific with tokens? Dec 02 23:49:04 cryptk, it wasnt even a big sneeze. I feel 20 years older than I am now :P Dec 02 23:50:28 my last attempt at meta-doctoring it wouldn't let me sign into my profile. Dec 02 23:50:47 your best bet is to make it into a plain WR unlocked Pre 2. Dec 02 23:51:02 by changing the tokens Dec 02 23:51:13 which tokens? Dec 02 23:51:18 do i make carrier = "WR" ? Dec 02 23:51:26 and change model ? Dec 02 23:51:49 cuz that's what i've done on the current image im trying to get past 12% Dec 02 23:52:15 I made the model be P102UNA Dec 02 23:52:24 and carrier WR Dec 02 23:56:44 WHOO HOO finally past the 12% mark. lol Dec 02 23:56:59 i feel cracking open a beer now.. it's like winning the lottery Dec 02 23:57:16 mscoolnerd: yes. no SSL in the catalog version yet Dec 02 23:57:40 I've heard "it's in the next version" though ... for the last few months Dec 03 00:00:01 dwc ah, ok thanks Dec 03 00:06:12 also, has there been any recent work done to try to add XMPP (for facebook) accounts to the messaging app on the touchpad? Dec 03 00:13:17 rwhitby: any ideas on which tokens definitely need to be changed? My current attempt isn't work.. I only modified DMMODEL, PRODoID, and DMCARRIER Dec 03 00:15:51 https://www.google.com/search?q=webos+facebook+xmpp Dec 03 00:18:34 dwc: i have been looking around... but everything is either fro Webos 2 or it just installing a new chat client, but i would rather use the builtin chat client. i was asking, because it someone is working on it i wouldn't mind helping Dec 03 00:19:45 Does anyone have spare tokens from an unlocked pre2? heh Dec 03 00:25:14 nightburn: DMMODEL, PRODoID and DMCARRIER should be enough to then run the normal doctor on it. Dec 03 00:25:43 so after i've ran my meta doctor. run the original wr doctor again? Dec 03 00:27:27