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Dec 06 04:30:41 <rwhitby> HP has no issue with Preware or the Muffle Logging patch.
Dec 06 05:06:44 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: nice
Dec 06 05:06:57 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: they should just build it in to webOS then.
Dec 06 05:08:16 <rwhitby> there's a wide spectrum from actively litigate to passively ignore to openly support to actively support to begrudgingly integrate to actively subsume
Dec 06 05:09:56 <VICODANAX> LOL
Dec 06 05:09:59 <VICODANAX> you are a trip
Dec 06 06:07:07 <wrea> sconix, looks like node-dbus works 1.4.x and maybe 1.2.x
Dec 06 06:36:58 <jcsullins> b-man`: (or anyone else) -- I've created a channel ##touchpad-dev for discussing issues re: native ports (ubuntu, archlinux, etc.) to touchpad
Dec 06 07:07:05 <earthnative> so I'm relatively new to webOS, still testing my pre3... am frustrated by the lack of granularity on volume. Is that likely to be adjustable? (say, preware patch?)
Dec 06 07:10:12 <earthnative> (if this is the wrong place to ask, or an obvious 'too hard', that's cool. it's just my current irk :)
Dec 06 07:15:49 * EricBlade1 gives earthnative some extra volume granules
Dec 06 07:17:07 <hewball> earthnative: touchvol might help
Dec 06 07:21:16 <earthnative> ahh, it certainly does. (it's very poorly formatted to the pre3 screen, but it let's me set slightly softer than the built-in softest. thankyou :)
Dec 06 07:23:22 <hewball> only other option is alsamixer, but thats not an app type use
Dec 06 07:26:04 <earthnative> oh, I'm far from afraid to get my hands dirty... but nor do I want to open xterm to adjust the volume :)
Dec 06 07:28:08 <earthnative> ahh, there is a device menu megamix with a volume slider too... though ipkg is giving me postint errors on that at the moment :/
Dec 06 08:04:03 <VanillaSlice> morning, quick question. any way to install preware on a WiFi only touchpad v3.0.4 with out using a computer?
Dec 06 08:06:20 <wrea> rwhitby, when you get a chance can you change my group on the wiki to human. My id is Wrea
Dec 06 08:07:40 <VanillaSlice> following the guide here http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/219156-preware-standalone-installer.html is proving difficult on injury 11.10
Dec 06 08:08:03 <VanillaSlice> -injury ubuntu
Dec 06 13:20:24 <rwhitby> wrea: done
Dec 06 16:04:36 <wrea> rwhitby, thanks
Dec 06 18:45:01 <PaNeL> hello
Dec 06 18:51:44 <grep_awesome> hey panel
Dec 06 18:52:34 <PaNeL> enjoying new touchstone :) great thing
Dec 06 18:54:14 <grep_awesome> nice man! I wish I could justify the money
Dec 06 18:56:10 <PaNeL> my wife asked me for christmas gift for me :))
Dec 06 18:57:26 <grep_awesome> lucky man
Dec 06 19:03:32 <PaNeL> yes, i have best woman :)
Dec 06 19:05:44 <grep_awesome> I might have to disagree with you on that. My wife is pretty great :D
Dec 06 19:07:02 <PaNeL> christmas is comming, i have donated webos-internals, it' only small support, but next year I will donate again
Dec 06 19:08:03 <grep_awesome> that's awesome!
Dec 06 19:08:45 <PaNeL> grep_awesome :) we are lucky both :) we have great womans
Dec 06 19:10:12 <PaNeL> i had some donations from people liked my apps and I'm forwarding ;)
Dec 06 19:11:24 <grep_awesome> I haven't taken any donations on my apps b/c I didn't want any pressure to perfrom...
Dec 06 19:11:29 <grep_awesome> *perform
Dec 06 19:11:43 <grep_awesome> I have a full time job and I do contracting, so my play time is soo limited
Dec 06 19:15:56 <PaNeL> I have fulltime too, but webos is so super
Dec 06 19:16:14 <grep_awesome> it really is, kind of a stress reliever to work on it
Dec 06 19:36:48 <PaNeL> we have some troubles with water
Dec 06 19:36:55 <PaNeL> on our street
Dec 06 19:37:13 <grep_awesome> how so?
Dec 06 19:37:20 <PaNeL> i have to go to my mother to get some back up water
Dec 06 19:37:43 <PaNeL> there was some accident on street with tubes
Dec 06 19:37:57 <PaNeL> water wa spilling from ground
Dec 06 19:38:00 <grep_awesome> ah, that's no good
Dec 06 19:38:20 <PaNeL> i don't know how long it will take
Dec 06 19:42:26 <PaNeL> ok, bye then
Dec 06 21:14:09 <nomad84> hello
Dec 06 21:14:55 <wrea> hi
Dec 06 21:18:20 <nomad84> I'm looking for some help, I've got an att hp veer and it works a little bit weird on tmo network
Dec 06 21:18:48 <wrea> weird?
Dec 06 21:19:01 <nomad84> it keeps loosing signal when I launch the app catalog
Dec 06 21:24:33 <wrea> no apps for you
Dec 06 21:27:23 <nomad84> it works via wifi.. but it's annoying
Dec 06 21:28:51 <wrea> it should work fine, although not as fast as if you were on att's network
Dec 06 21:32:22 <nomad84> it does not.. I would be more than happy to install "vanilla" webos on it, but I can't find any instructions for that
Dec 06 21:40:46 <DarkdowN> hey oh..!
Dec 06 21:47:23 <DarkdowN> hey looking to have wifi available on first boot w/o doctoring, thoughts?
Dec 06 21:49:37 <dwc-> nomad84: signal shouldn't be affected by what app is running
Dec 06 21:55:23 <nomad84> dwc-: yep, I meant loosing data connection
Dec 06 21:57:42 <Davide-NYC> Hello all, I would like to download an app in the app catalog that is specified for webos 2.1.0. I'm running 2.2.3 on a Pre3. I'm fairly certain the app will be compatible. Is there any way to 'persuade' the HP catalog that I am running a webos 2.1.0 device?
Dec 06 21:58:32 <dwc-> can you try to contact the developer and ask them to mark the app as available for the pre3?
Dec 06 21:58:46 <DMeister-IT> what app is?
Dec 06 21:58:53 <Davide-NYC> http://www.precentral.net/gtask
Dec 06 22:01:58 <Davide-NYC> https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=info.xming.gtask
Dec 06 22:04:57 <DMeister-IT> I'm trying to extract the ipk...
Dec 06 22:05:04 <DMeister-IT> but if U leave... xD
Dec 06 22:07:18 <DMeister-IT> hey davide I'm trying to extract this ipk
Dec 06 22:07:22 <DMeister-IT> if U wait...
Dec 06 22:07:35 <Davide-NYC> Hey, thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.
Dec 06 22:07:49 <Davide-NYC> Are you doing this using a device or an emulator?
Dec 06 22:10:07 <DMeister-IT> my pre with 2.1
Dec 06 22:11:18 <DMeister-IT> only... i'm reboot it, because it was discharge
Dec 06 22:11:29 <DMeister-IT> *rebooting
Dec 06 22:11:42 <Davide-NYC> There must be a way to spoof the catalog somehow.
Dec 06 22:11:49 <DMeister-IT> so wait 5/10 minutes
Dec 06 22:12:15 <Davide-NYC> will do. thanks
Dec 06 22:12:20 <DMeister-IT> ... it isn't the only bug catalog have...unfortunately
Dec 06 22:12:40 <DMeister-IT> Davide, are U italian?
Dec 06 22:14:18 <Davide-NYC> Si
Dec 06 22:14:29 <DMeister-IT> ahh perfetto... anche io ahahah
Dec 06 22:14:41 <DMeister-IT> (IT sta per quello)
Dec 06 22:14:41 <Davide-NYC> Per via di NYC trent'anni fa.
Dec 06 22:14:55 <Davide-NYC> we should take th eitalian offline.
Dec 06 22:15:09 <DMeister-IT> oh I think too
Dec 06 22:16:22 <DMeister-IT> I am waiting to wake up my pre, from discharge... some minutes :)
Dec 06 22:31:41 <DMeister-IT> Davide I've do all
Dec 06 22:32:17 <DarkdowN> i think you should bring the spanish online instead :)
Dec 06 22:32:39 <DMeister-IT> now i'm uploading on mediafire
Dec 06 22:33:04 <Davide-NYC> grazie mille!
Dec 06 22:33:10 <DMeister-IT> this is for U, Davide http://www.mediafire.com/?ts1r14179k148q5
Dec 06 22:33:39 <DMeister-IT> viecci a trovare sulla community italiana! basta che cerchi su google
Dec 06 22:33:54 <DMeister-IT> webos + italia :D
Dec 06 22:34:43 <DMeister-IT> I hope it work fine...
Dec 06 22:34:49 <DMeister-IT> fammi sapere :D
Dec 06 22:38:09 <Davide-NYC> I am happy to report that gtasks works as it should
Dec 06 22:38:25 <Davide-NYC> Thank you DMeister-IT!
Dec 06 22:38:28 <DMeister-IT> good :)
Dec 06 22:39:35 <Davide-NYC> saluti da nueva york
Dec 06 22:39:51 <DMeister-IT> :D saluti da Roma :D
Dec 06 22:59:04 <wrea> hi LarrySteeze
Dec 06 22:59:16 <LarrySteeze> wrea: what's crackin?
Dec 06 23:00:12 <wrea> not too much, working on adding pulseaudio modules
Dec 06 23:01:01 <LarrySteeze> cool
Dec 06 23:01:28 <LarrySteeze> what exactly are you looking to do with pulseaudio?
Dec 06 23:01:44 <wrea> adding modules that dont come with the devices
Dec 06 23:02:05 <wrea> rtp, raop(airtunes) and zeroconf
Dec 06 23:02:25 <LarrySteeze> ah
Dec 06 23:02:31 <LarrySteeze> that's cool
Dec 06 23:03:06 <wrea> unfortunately any devices older than the pre3 or tp dont get raop. Unless someone wants to try backporting
Dec 06 23:03:08 <LarrySteeze> I've been gone too long
Dec 06 23:03:19 <LarrySteeze> Sadly, I'm still waiting for my pre 3
Dec 06 23:08:04 <wrea> bummer
Dec 06 23:08:36 <LarrySteeze> and I'm getting mad at my dns server for not letting me write dns data
Dec 06 23:09:40 <wrea> kicking it sometimes helps :P
Dec 06 23:11:56 <LarrySteeze> I don't tempt its' temper.
Dec 06 23:12:38 <wrea> Yeah, it might go HAL 5000 on you
Dec 06 23:13:06 <LarrySteeze> it would, but it's unfortunately been upgraded to the 10000 version. It knows how to use nukes strategically
Dec 06 23:16:01 <dwc-> ah-hem, that looks suspiciously like redistributing software
Dec 06 23:16:04 <dwc-> oh, they're gone
Dec 06 23:17:39 <LarrySteeze> 'eh?
Dec 06 23:17:50 <LarrySteeze> dwc-: what'd I miss?
Dec 06 23:32:03 <dwc-> nothing important
Dec 06 23:32:47 <wrea> yeah, it sure did
Dec 07 00:24:03 <Cache_> Hey all. Unboxing a Touchpad. Any 'first step' advice?
Dec 07 00:25:04 <threezero> set it up
Dec 07 00:25:14 <threezero> use it for a few days before you go android
Dec 07 00:25:18 <threezero> webos is really sumthing different
Dec 07 00:25:22 <threezero> if u havn't use it before
Dec 07 00:26:48 <Cache_> I'm running a launch week  Pre-, have Preware installed. Love WebOS, but WebOS 3.0 will be new to me. 3.04 that is.
Dec 07 00:27:27 <bnceo> load it up. dev mode it
Dec 07 00:27:28 <threezero> tp's 3.0 is the first experience i have with webos
Dec 07 00:27:38 <threezero> i'm so sad hp fuck it up
Dec 07 00:27:39 <bnceo> put uber kernal and some mojo patches and watch that thing fly
Dec 07 00:27:43 <bnceo> oh and turn off logging
Dec 07 00:28:03 <Cache_> Xactly the advice I was looking for, Thx bnceo! Aces.
Dec 07 00:28:23 <summatusmentis> make sure you upgrade it to 3.0.4 if it's not coming that way
Dec 07 00:28:30 <bnceo> I've tried every tablet man and only iPad beats it on experience. Galaxy Tab is bleh. Transformer is the smoothest of them all
Dec 07 00:28:52 <Cache_> Dexedrine tabs were the best.
Dec 07 00:30:19 <threezero> dexedrine?
Dec 07 00:30:42 <threezero> ipad is great too bad it doesn't have flash
Dec 07 00:30:53 <threezero> would have brought 1 in a heartbeat if it has flash
Dec 07 00:31:05 <earthnative> personally, the lack of flash is one thing I think Jobs got 100% correct
Dec 07 00:31:15 <Cache_> Amphetamine tabs. Dated reference.
Dec 07 00:31:31 <threezero> flash is slow and clunky
Dec 07 00:31:31 <earthnative> hmm, I should look at UberKernel for my pre3 I suppose... :)
Dec 07 00:31:34 <summatusmentis> I almost never use flash on my touchpad
Dec 07 00:31:37 <threezero> outdated
Dec 07 00:31:47 <threezero> but i watch streaming video alot
Dec 07 00:31:56 <bnceo> loving HTML5 video more and more
Dec 07 00:31:57 <threezero> and megavideo etc just wont give up flash
Dec 07 00:32:14 <summatusmentis> mm
Dec 07 00:35:03 <threezero> although i really enjoy the experience of tinkering with my touchpad
Dec 07 00:35:41 <threezero> ubuntu + android + webos is sumthing ipad will never be able to do
Dec 07 00:35:55 <threezero> although i havn't manage to get ubuntu set up on the tp yet
Dec 07 00:53:48 <threezero> justin.tv isn't displaying properly for me
Dec 07 00:53:59 <threezero> is there a fix.
Dec 07 00:54:24 <threezero> use to be fine on cm7 now on a3 i can't scrolling down when I'm on a channel page
Dec 07 00:59:44 <dwc-> that sounds like an android problem ...
Dec 07 01:05:01 <threezero> yea wrong place lol
Dec 07 01:31:50 <Freman> is it possible to get the wifi password out of this thing (even via xterm)?
Dec 07 01:33:45 <dwc-> what wifi password out of what thing
Dec 07 01:35:18 <Freman> wifi password out of my touchpad (I've forgotten what it is since setting it up and I cbf setting a new one)
Dec 07 01:36:24 <dwc-> wep? iwconfig
Dec 07 01:37:33 <Freman> wpa
Dec 07 02:38:26 <bnceo> anyone around?
Dec 07 02:41:56 <wrea> wb LarrySteeze
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