**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 07 02:59:57 2011 Dec 07 03:14:38 wrea: thanks Dec 07 03:14:55 wrea: now if my website could just display images...maybe it'd welcome me back as well Dec 07 06:21:38 Hello... could I trouble you guys with a question on my Sprint Franken Pre2 transition? Won't go into USB Recovery mode... Dec 07 06:22:56 I gues it is kinda late though... Dec 07 06:25:30 tried both volume up and using the 'R' key 1000 times... no luck at all... Dec 07 06:25:46 completely powered it off, right? Dec 07 06:26:02 yes... Dec 07 06:26:04 wait, doesn't boot at all or boots up and ignores you Dec 07 06:26:24 just hangs at the "no battery" icon Dec 07 06:26:42 can't get into recovery mode at all... Dec 07 06:26:55 have you seen http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover Dec 07 06:27:03 needs more power to get into recovery methinks Dec 07 06:28:01 yes, but the device won't go into recovery mode... so that directs me to the emergency bootloader recovery page Dec 07 06:28:23 It is plugged into the wall, not the PC Dec 07 06:28:43 is the battery charged at all? Dec 07 06:29:07 I have two of them, one charged to 100% the other to ~85% Dec 07 06:30:09 can pre1 or pre2 do touch to share? Dec 07 06:30:14 no Dec 07 06:30:30 now you have me wondering if I did in fact shut it completely down... Dec 07 06:30:48 Let's assume Imistakenly did not... Dec 07 06:31:19 pull the battery Dec 07 06:31:32 Done. Dec 07 06:31:43 unplug from the wall Dec 07 06:31:51 (though it should do that on its own after the battery pull by now) Dec 07 06:31:51 Thats what I always do for recovery mode. except on the veer. because its weird. Dec 07 06:31:52 done Dec 07 06:33:47 followed the steps outlined in the wiki... plug into the wall... battery icon appears... hold volume up... insert battery while still holding volume up... keep holding volume up until usb icon appears... Dec 07 06:34:02 except the USB icon never shows up... Dec 07 06:34:43 I am stumped... Dec 07 06:35:40 I also posted a thread on precentral about it: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/308197-sprint-franken-pre2-wont-go-into-recovery-usb-mode.html Dec 07 06:37:45 Anyone have any thoughts? Dec 07 06:42:01 Recap: swapped comm board from activated Sprint pre- into a Verizon Pre2. Won'g go into USB recovery mode. Dec 07 06:42:26 Swapping radio back and starting process over to make I didn't miss anything... Dec 07 06:53:12 Just swapped the verizon board back into the pre2 and it worked just fine... so the original Pre2 configuration works. No to put my sprint Pre- back together... Dec 07 07:02:57 Just got the Sprint comm board back in the original Pre- and it is currently booting... No idea why this would work now... Dec 07 07:03:26 "wouldn't" work, that is Dec 07 07:07:25 rwhitby, no rush, but whenever you can, could you look over https://github.com/willrea/build. Focusing mostly on libdaemon, dbus, avahi and modules-0.9.22. Dec 07 07:08:43 I'd usually be on longer tonight, but im trying to fight off getting sick, so if you have suggestions just pm me Dec 07 07:10:54 rwhitby: please remove Company-Nick divider - Veer, CN ISO date format - Veer, Search Contacts in PinYin - Veer, Sort Contacts by PinYin - Veer, Chinese PinYin Framework - Veer, Sync Fix for Stable Upload - Veer. none of the patch/ipk is ever generated correctly Dec 07 07:11:54 and will never correct, if 2.1.2 is not a separate supported version by patches.webos-internals.org system Dec 07 07:14:25 moo: done Dec 07 07:15:23 wrea: first glance looks good Dec 07 07:16:31 thx Dec 07 07:22:46 moo: next veer webOS version, we'll make it separate Dec 07 07:25:57 :) Dec 07 07:27:37 rwhitby, Good. :) I know I'll be having issues when trying to get avahi to work on 1.4.x devices Dec 07 07:33:46 * dwc- knocks on wood Dec 07 07:36:23 I had to remove the system.conf patch from palm to get the zeroconf and raop modules to load. So I'll need to figure out how to get it to work with the patch for the 1.4.x devices Dec 07 07:36:51 Dunno why, looks like the patch would allow anything to connect Dec 07 07:45:00 would also help if i had a 1.4.x device to test with Dec 07 08:31:05 hi, i'm building custom kernel for hp veer device. but how can i build the wifi dhd.ko module? there seems no dhd module the stock kernel source? Dec 07 08:32:21 http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/2.1.2/dhd.tgz Dec 07 08:32:29 http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/2.1.2/dhd-patches.gz Dec 07 08:33:37 wrea: thanks :) Dec 07 08:38:34 wrea: the dhd.tgz is a patched package, right? Dec 07 08:39:31 no, you'll need to apply the patche(s) in dhd-patches.gz Dec 07 08:40:12 but since its a module if you just want to modify the kernel, you shouldnt need to mess with dhd Dec 07 08:40:30 wrea: patch -p1 < ../dhd-patches always returns 'Reverse' operation suggestion Dec 07 08:41:55 wrea: i just disabled the kernel debug in .config, veer boots with new kernel, wifi can't open now Dec 07 08:42:59 iirc, they messed that one up Dec 07 08:43:28 dmesg shows lots of 'unknown symbol xxx' msg if opening wifi Dec 07 09:06:02 fyodor_: are you starting with a WebOS Internals kernel? Dec 07 09:08:12 rwhitby: not yet, i just make uImage on veer stock kernel Dec 07 09:09:08 fyodor_: well, there are at least 3 examples of custom Veer kernels that work, and we didn't have to do anything special with dhd Dec 07 09:09:33 so you might like to start with one of those - they are all built from the same source and build Makefiles Dec 07 09:10:47 (note that a number of kernel modules are binary without source, so you don't want to be changing the ABI if you want those to work) Dec 07 09:11:20 (that's the most common mistake with folks building their own kernels - change a debug CONFIG symbol and binary modules no longer work) Dec 07 09:12:45 so the ABI should not be changed? i'm wondering to rebuild the kernel with debug msg enabled. Dec 07 09:13:51 some CONFIG symbols can be changed, but be warned that some that you think you should be able to change with impunity will stop binary modules working Dec 07 09:14:26 I would suggest starting from a working kernel compile, and then only changing one thing at a time. Dec 07 09:15:17 * rwhitby points to http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Building_Apps_and_Kernels Dec 07 09:15:28 i built the android kernel with wifi module before, so i thought webos would be the same. :D Dec 07 09:15:56 * rwhitby chuckles Dec 07 09:16:18 so much for sleeping Dec 07 09:16:24 no knowledge or experience from android can be used in webOS, and vice versa. Dec 07 09:17:37 * rwhitby bbl Dec 07 09:17:56 rwhitby: i'v checked the git of webos-internals, there are only kernel patches hosted on it, where is the whole kernel source tree? Dec 07 11:06:43 hello Dec 07 11:10:30 hi Dec 07 14:40:33 rwhitby: the patch i requested to remove, is still on http://patches.webos-internals.org/?do=submit_update Dec 07 17:18:08 morning, y'all Dec 07 17:19:09 morning chuqui Dec 07 17:23:15 morning Dec 07 17:30:42 mornin Dec 07 19:11:02 sconix: ping?? Dec 07 19:12:40 NuttyBunny: jep Dec 07 19:13:09 hey, do you have Pre3? Dec 07 19:13:50 yep Dec 07 19:14:30 cool, a spare one as well? to install the messaging plugins and figure out why the newly created accounts won't appear in the accounts list when you press the status button? :D Dec 07 19:15:00 I am really swamped at the moment, otherwise I could try Dec 07 19:15:04 I create a new account, but it doesn't appear. I've restarted the messaging app (jstop -> kill, restart), and nothing Dec 07 19:15:17 I have almost none freetime during this week, next week I am back to normal life Dec 07 19:15:27 hmmm... ok, I'll try to look into it :D Dec 07 19:15:35 but doesn't it tell that something is missing from the account info Dec 07 19:15:43 maybe compare them with impostah to those that are showing Dec 07 19:16:08 right, thanks, will do that! :) Dec 07 19:16:22 if you still need help next week then ping me again Dec 07 19:17:27 ok, thanks :) Dec 07 19:25:47 weird, they seem to be correctly defined, type MESSAGING, subtype IM Dec 07 19:31:08 gonna reboot the phone :) .. brb Dec 07 19:49:58 sconix: argh, does appear in Pre2, does not appear in Pre3 :( (both use the messaging patches). I need someone with a virgin pre3 to test :D Dec 07 20:09:34 * NuttyBunny updates all the patches in the Pre2, hoping to break the messaging plugins :D Dec 07 20:17:25 Oh webOS gods, I summon you!!! Is there a luna-send command to force a messaging login to all accounts at once? Dec 07 23:29:18 hi all ! Dec 07 23:29:26 hey openblacboc **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 07 23:52:25 2011 Dec 08 01:39:12 why would save/restore not load the packages? Dec 08 01:39:22 been loading for about 5 minutes Dec 08 02:20:41 patrickc: did you install from feeds or build yourself? Dec 08 02:20:50 from the feeds Dec 08 02:21:22 i just left it for about 10-15 minutes and it still didnt load Dec 08 02:23:16 reinstall it, making sure there are no scripts left behind when you uninstall it Dec 08 02:23:34 scripts being the saverestore directory? Dec 08 02:23:45 scripts Dec 08 02:23:49 not saved data Dec 08 02:25:10 those would be in /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications ? Dec 08 02:27:24 if you don't know where they are, then you haven't touched them, so don't worry about it Dec 08 02:27:34 ok cool Dec 08 02:27:50 i uninstalled it and im rebooting just to make sure that everything is removed. then ill try again Dec 08 02:27:52 thanks rwhitby Dec 08 02:39:28 the assumption that "if you don't where it is, you haven't touched it" doesn't always hold true Dec 08 02:41:23 is there a way to run save/restore without actually loading up the application? as i uninstalled/rebooted/reinstalled and it still cant find any installed packages and the spinner wont stop spinning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 08 02:59:57 2011