**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 02:59:57 2011 Dec 14 03:12:38 lol. at least he's excited Dec 14 03:12:45 better than being negative Dec 14 03:15:42 Since the opensourcing announcement I haven't been able to log onto the webOS management page. Anyone know whether it has moved, or died? Dec 14 03:23:21 virtualscribe: palm.com/palmprofile working fine here Dec 14 03:29:37 Hmm Dec 14 03:29:44 wifi on my Pre3 is really off Dec 14 03:30:36 how so? Dec 14 03:30:44 I haven't had too many issues with mine Dec 14 03:32:16 wifi is really more stable on my PreĀ³ than on the crappy Telcel 3G service :) Dec 14 04:09:55 Thanks, Whitby; I'm based in Chicago in the US, and both the TouchPad/Veer give me a 500 website apache error. Dec 14 04:10:22 Good work on WebOS Internals; what are you going to do now that it's open sourced? Better or worse for you? Dec 14 04:15:27 better Dec 14 04:20:32 As an app dev for the TouchPad I hope their online store keeps functioning well. Whitby, we met when you gave a talk at OSCon in Portland, Oregon mid July. I like your enthusiasm. Dec 14 04:22:34 as far as I know, the app store is operating normally and no announcement of any change to that has been made Dec 14 04:23:16 since that is the main revenue stream for HP for webOS at the moment, I can't imagine them closing it down any time soon **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 06:20:29 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 06:22:15 2011 Dec 14 09:52:00 I'm big lammer :/ Dec 14 11:51:02 anyone know what a file called "/media/cryptofs/apps/DEBIAN/control" might've been generated by? it contains details about the "BFG Maps" catalog app Dec 14 11:51:34 by dpkg-deb Dec 14 11:52:19 or by some badly done manual unpacking of a .deb Dec 14 11:52:23 under normal usages, and lacking a Debian installation, what might've put that there? Dec 14 11:52:41 something that needs data from a .deb and sucks at unpacking it Dec 14 11:53:14 our packaging system wouldn't have done that though right Dec 14 11:53:36 i doubt it Dec 14 11:53:43 interesting mystery Dec 14 11:55:12 hmm. according to my file times, it either came from the bfg maps app, which would be bizarre, or it was installed with the bfg maps app, which would be .. only slightly less bizarre Dec 14 11:55:33 of course Dec 14 11:55:50 whoever built the bfg maps app package that *you used* could have accidentally put these files in that package Dec 14 11:55:53 you can probably check that Dec 14 12:09:37 bing maps? Dec 14 12:10:52 nope bfg maps Dec 14 15:34:06 if you uninstall preware does it automatically remove all patches? Dec 14 15:34:16 or is there a quick way to remove all the patches instead of going through each one by hand? Dec 14 15:41:58 no it does not Dec 14 15:43:30 EricBlade: you can try checking /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/ipkg/info Dec 14 16:16:42 h Dec 14 16:16:43 hi Dec 14 16:16:56 what are the advantages of installing ubuntu on touchpad, is it easy Dec 14 16:19:05 you might have to wait a bit, people are waking up in the US Dec 14 16:29:13 swisstomcat, it is 11:30am here in US Dec 14 16:30:39 east coast then Dec 14 17:23:43 * dwc- is still waking up Dec 14 17:24:09 I've been waking up for hours Dec 14 17:25:54 * scoutcamper discovered coffee. works well Dec 14 17:27:13 it's 6:20pm here, and I'm still waking upp Dec 14 17:27:16 up* Dec 14 17:27:19 not when you have it hooked up as an IV Dec 14 17:29:56 so... I won't notice anything except I'll have to make more trips to the can? Dec 14 18:45:43 rwhitby around? Dec 14 18:47:26 ccgx, rwhitby is sleeping Dec 14 18:47:56 ccgx, its 5:12AM for him Dec 14 18:48:03 already thought about that ^^ Dec 14 18:48:19 didnt know the exact time difference (; Dec 14 18:48:33 when is he normally around? Dec 14 18:49:54 2-ish hours Dec 14 18:50:06 ok Dec 14 18:59:01 daylight savings, australia... Dec 14 18:59:09 if I'm up - he should be up soon ;) Dec 14 21:39:14 morning Dec 14 21:39:40 if you say so :-\ :-D Dec 14 21:43:01 morning rwhitby Dec 14 21:55:30 http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/14/2635786/intel-mobile-restructure#85706366 is an interesting comment on an interesting story ... Dec 14 21:58:37 indeed Dec 14 21:59:44 rwhitby: quite... Dec 14 22:25:53 seems interesting, but i have a sneaking suspicion that nvidia is going to be the king of high powered mobiles for some time, and just a bunch of players in the low to medium powered arena Dec 14 22:26:47 but then, that's a from the perspective of a guy who makes his money in the gaming business Dec 14 22:26:52 hmmm..glib error Dec 14 22:27:06 Ran into it before and now i cant remember how i fixed it Dec 14 22:33:20 sup gentlemen and ladies Dec 14 22:34:28 hey Dec 14 22:35:04 had an interesting incident with my Pre2 Dec 14 22:35:12 Pre3*. the bluetooth audio keep cutting out Dec 14 22:35:28 when I received a text or opened up a menu (like the device menu) Dec 14 22:38:03 bnceo`, http://www.webosnation.com/prevent-bluetooth-audio-stutter-webos-2-2 ? Dec 14 22:39:12 yup. there it is Dec 14 22:39:35 in fact, I got the text when I was maybe 100 feet from my apt, but had to drive around to get to the parking lot Dec 14 22:41:25 rwhitby: that pre2 2.2.4 doctor, is there a way to fake it onto cmda pre2s? or is the modem stuff too deeply integrated? Dec 14 22:41:42 pre2 2.2.4 doctor is out Dec 14 22:41:46 you mean Verizon Pre2? Dec 14 22:41:57 officially >_> Dec 14 22:42:18 http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pre2/p224rod12052011/wrep224rod/webosdoctorp224pre2wr.jar official enough for you? Dec 14 22:42:35 rwhitby: sorry, was talking to bnceo`, officially verizon pre2s Dec 14 22:43:06 ah. So no auto update via system update? Dec 14 22:43:11 Just doctor? Dec 14 22:43:23 really what I'm asking is could I meta-doc my sprintfied frankenpre2? Dec 14 22:43:46 ah. good question. Dec 14 22:47:33 !! Dec 14 22:47:48 helloooo, nurse... errr doctor Dec 14 22:48:15 haha Dec 14 22:48:29 * dwc- taps feet impatiently Dec 14 22:48:32 61% [======================> ] 128,887,968 6.53M/s eta 13s Dec 14 22:49:56 hm, this one's not specificaly labeled with eu/una Dec 14 22:52:19 nope. Must be applicable to all Dec 14 22:53:09 Howdy :-) Dec 14 22:53:19 yo yo Dec 14 22:53:49 Twitter down for ya'll? Dec 14 22:54:05 yeah Dec 14 22:54:12 did you break it? Dec 14 22:54:45 dwc-: note the annotation on our webos doctor versions wiki page Dec 14 22:54:46 Abyssul-TP: try refreshing the page, it works from time to time Dec 14 22:54:51 Not intentionally Dec 14 22:55:18 summatusmentis: creating a 2.2.4 version of the frankenpre2 should be straight forward Dec 14 22:55:28 * Abyssul-TP waits patiently for sprint pre2 2.2.4 Dec 14 22:55:34 I see twitter fail whales all over the place Dec 14 22:55:50 ya. Would love to get my cousins the latest update on their Sprint Pre2s Dec 14 22:56:20 What about the reports that 2.2.4 is beta? Dec 14 22:56:46 Idk if i wanna update if all the complaints are true Dec 14 22:56:57 rwhitby: yea, I saw that after I commented Dec 14 22:57:05 you can always undo it! Dec 14 22:57:13 I know Dec 14 22:57:17 rwhitby: neat Dec 14 22:57:26 interestingly, I heard it was beta too, but to release a doctor that is beta is not normal Dec 14 22:57:49 I can understand a doctor for beta too... they need to test that also, not just OTA Dec 14 22:58:19 the package is final. the group of devices published to was the beta thing Dec 14 22:58:36 Doesnt seem right Dec 14 22:58:53 okie doke. In rod we trus Dec 14 22:58:56 trust* Dec 14 22:59:08 Lol wheres that pic :-P Dec 14 22:59:16 http://bit.ly/in-rod-we-trust Dec 14 22:59:21 * bnceo` sucks at photoshop Dec 14 22:59:32 good enough fo rme Dec 14 22:59:42 * summatusmentis waits patiently for sprint frankenpre2 meta-doctor Dec 14 22:59:48 just having that link available so fast is funny Dec 14 22:59:49 I'd do it myself, but it's finals week Dec 14 23:00:12 bnceo`: it's not a hard one to remember Dec 14 23:00:15 Any backstory to that pic rod or is it just photoshopped/stolen from google images? Dec 14 23:00:30 it's a real picture Dec 14 23:00:31 no photoshop needed, really Dec 14 23:01:48 (refers to the coach of the umich football team) Dec 14 23:02:56 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Rodriguez#Michigan Dec 14 23:03:18 So it was taken from google images :-P Dec 14 23:03:32 no, that's plainly on flickr :P Dec 14 23:04:00 * Abyssul-TP grumbles Dec 14 23:05:24 I couldnt doctor my pre2 now anyways. At work.. Dec 14 23:05:42 I just want thag sms bug fixed. Dec 14 23:06:47 just did my first text on my tablet via bluetooth Dec 14 23:06:53 this is killer Dec 14 23:07:00 what is the sms bug? Dec 14 23:11:57 Something triggers the pre2 to stop recieving sms unless u reboot Dec 14 23:13:27 there's plenty of 2.1.0/pre2 bugs to go around Dec 14 23:19:23 Dwc-, so true Dec 14 23:26:27 anyone here familiar with com.prenewbie.wifitpbrowser.service? Dec 14 23:27:45 i start sharing from within the app and want to upload files to my touchpad wirelessly but then it claims com.prenewbie.wifitpbrowser.service isnt running Dec 14 23:27:53 crap Dec 14 23:40:32 First thing i do when i get home? Modify the script for 2.2.4 if rod doesnt beat me to it Dec 14 23:57:31 hey LarrySteeze Dec 14 23:57:36 what's going on Dec 14 23:57:46 not much Dec 14 23:57:53 I'm starting to wonder if wrea has a script that greets me when I log on...:P Dec 15 00:40:04 maybe he's your stalker Dec 15 01:02:17 LOL Dec 15 01:02:22 we just got a bill from Sprint Dec 15 01:02:26 it was 32 pages long Dec 15 01:02:40 and it came in a special envelope Dec 15 01:02:46 o.O Dec 15 01:02:51 my bothers goals was accomplished Dec 15 01:02:53 I don't think I receive bills from sprint. Dec 15 01:03:10 in the mail, anyway Dec 15 01:03:22 ya they try and get people over to ebill or non verbose bills Dec 15 01:03:27 and they now force it on people Dec 15 01:03:42 they told my brother the days of longs bill were over Dec 15 01:03:54 so untill that date comes he purposefully is creating large bill Dec 15 01:04:06 I get the long bill, but via ebill Dec 15 01:04:17 runs a script to make 5 second calls all night long to the weather number Dec 15 01:04:20 I prefer it actually...I don't like to get mail that I never open Dec 15 01:04:36 my brother is just an asshole Dec 15 01:04:51 I would think they'd catch on to that script being that it calls the same number Dec 15 01:04:56 doesnt like it when companies change terms as the please Dec 15 01:05:12 not sure what they could do it about it Dec 15 01:05:20 and that the sheer volume of calls, I imagine it would fall under the "robo calling" idea that is outlawed in the TOS Dec 15 01:05:22 maybe we wants really up to date weather ;) Dec 15 01:05:30 Does anyone have the ipk for audiophile? I'd like to see if it runs on my pre3. Dec 15 01:05:51 I mean it's meant to prevent spam calls, but I'd imagine that's covered as well Dec 15 01:06:16 there is enough pause between calls that it should be a DOS attact Dec 15 01:06:56 I wasn't even thinking DOS, but that's a valid point as well Dec 15 01:18:26 they should burn the pdf to a cd and post it to him **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 15 02:59:57 2011