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Jan 01 03:29:07 <Brybry> the look on my face when I realize you can do luna-send -n 1 luna://com.palm.systemservice/getPreferences '{"keys":["x_palm_virtualkeyboard_settings"]}' instead of use sqlite and open up the database file manually =(
Jan 01 04:51:28 <BrettQ> so...anyone else having issues activating right now?
Jan 01 04:52:03 <PatrickC> rwhitby, dwc-, just got it from a friend. he couldnt fix it and was going to throw it out
Jan 01 04:52:16 <PatrickC> i only need it for small parts like the back. but was wondering what the issue was
Jan 01 04:55:43 <BrettQ> 3 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.firstuse/app/controllers/app-assistant.js.rej
Jan 01 04:56:04 <BrettQ> trying to build meta-doctor for touchpad and getting the message above
Jan 01 04:56:20 <BrettQ> any suggestions?
Jan 01 04:57:00 <BrettQ> son of a...not using sudo
Jan 01 04:57:06 * BrettQ faceHPs
Jan 01 04:57:52 <BrettQ> if that makes a difference
Jan 01 05:01:54 <|abbie|> Thanks. that made my night.
Jan 01 05:01:56 <|abbie|> :)
Jan 01 05:54:00 * PatrickC realized that the doctor is much easier then trying to flash a rom...
Jan 01 06:45:18 <jmoney4769> hey, I am trying to get Ubuntu chroot to work with xecurah, but when I select Ubuntu chroot to run, nothing happens. What should I do?
Jan 01 06:45:42 <PatrickC> do you have the ext3fs partition?
Jan 01 06:46:15 <jmoney4769> I do. A couple hours ago I doctored it with a 4gb partition
Jan 01 06:48:23 <dwc-> PatrickC_Away: ask him what he did with it before it broke
Jan 01 06:50:05 <jmoney4769> It didn't break. I just doctored it so that a partition could be set up
Jan 01 06:54:27 <oclet> sup
Jan 01 07:07:25 <jmoney4769> Hey everyone. I am trying to get Ubuntu chroot to work, but whenever I try to launch it through xecutah, nothing happens. I have the partition set up and mounted. What should I do now?
Jan 01 07:08:12 <|abbie|> did you set up the partition, mount it, install ubuntu and then try to launch it?
Jan 01 07:09:22 <jmoney4769> Does it have to be installed afterward? Oops. Do I have to reinstall xecutah too or just ubuntu?
Jan 01 07:09:31 <|abbie|> ubuntu
Jan 01 07:09:48 <jmoney4769> okay. Thank you very much :-)
Jan 01 07:27:53 <GNUtoo> hi PuffTheMagic
Jan 01 07:29:45 <GNUtoo> I finally got precomm working with the bootloader
Jan 01 07:29:50 <GNUtoo> the change is pretty minimal
Jan 01 07:30:05 <GNUtoo> but there is an issue: the caracters are echoed twice on the console
Jan 01 07:30:09 <GNUtoo> but sent only once
Jan 01 07:33:19 <dwc-> local echo?
Jan 01 07:34:24 <GNUtoo> yes something like that
Jan 01 07:36:33 <GNUtoo> the diff is pretty basic:
Jan 01 07:36:34 <GNUtoo> -                dev->state=STATE_LIMBO;
Jan 01 07:41:54 <GNUtoo> how to get klog now?
Jan 01 07:42:39 <GNUtoo> I don't mean the command (./precom get file://klog > klog) but rather the procedure
Jan 01 07:42:50 <GNUtoo> that is to say: is there a reset button
Jan 01 07:43:00 <GNUtoo> I guess that if I remove the battery klog is gone
Jan 01 07:43:12 <GNUtoo> apart if it writes it on a permanent memory
Jan 01 07:43:19 <GNUtoo> like for mtdoops for instance
Jan 01 08:56:08 <Jack87> Happy New Year!
Jan 01 11:20:28 <krushia> do any of you have a working ssh-agent setup dealing with password protected keys for deamons (ssh tunnels, sshfs, etc) on your webos device?
Jan 01 15:00:59 <PuffTheMagic_> GNUtoo: nice
Jan 01 15:01:43 <PuffTheMagic_> GNUtoo: i will move precom to github, then u can fork it and we can do a merge request
Jan 01 15:02:26 <PuffTheMagic_> actually
Jan 01 15:02:33 <PuffTheMagic_> im gonna wait for the main dev to do that
Jan 01 15:02:39 <PuffTheMagic_> or ask him if he wants to
Jan 01 15:04:31 <Shihatsu> happy new year guys!
Jan 01 15:05:18 <Shihatsu> does anybody know why i get no sms alert on my european gsm pre3?
Jan 01 15:05:47 <Shihatsu> or should i ask in the general channel? (came here almost automatically because this is where the gurus are)
Jan 01 15:21:36 <GNUtoo> PuffTheMagic_, ok thanks
Jan 01 16:53:56 <IceXtreme> Hi everyone happy new year
Jan 01 16:53:57 <IceXtreme> :)
Jan 01 17:49:29 <i3luefire> i am using linux mint debian edition and i am trying to upgrade my unused sprint palm pre minus to webos 2.0+ but on the step where i am supposed to connect the phone to my computer because the doctor has said to do so the next button stays greyed out and unavailable
Jan 01 17:49:40 <i3luefire> what is the problem?
Jan 01 17:57:00 <RagingMind> i3luefire, if it's a debian based system you probably don't have novacomd running even if it's installed
Jan 01 17:57:12 <RagingMind> so the doctor can't find your phone
Jan 01 17:57:38 <i3luefire> RagingMind: so how do i get novacomd started
Jan 01 17:57:50 <i3luefire> it is installed
Jan 01 17:58:41 <RagingMind> there are 2 ways, the quick and dirty is to run /opt/Palm/novacom/novacomd in a root terminal
Jan 01 17:59:03 <RagingMind> long term solution: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_Debian
Jan 01 17:59:34 <RagingMind> oh... first step   "ps ax | grep nova" to see if it's running and that this is your actual problem
Jan 01 18:00:33 <i3luefire> 21360 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --colour=auto nova
Jan 01 18:00:48 <i3luefire> that is the output
Jan 01 18:01:09 <RagingMind> if that's the only one, then novacomd isn't running
Jan 01 18:02:21 <i3luefire> ok it is working now
Jan 01 18:02:30 <i3luefire> RagingMind: thank you
Jan 01 18:03:11 <RagingMind> I hacked that init script together a while ago when I had the same issue
Jan 01 18:03:41 <i3luefire> RagingMind: crap. now i have the error that my device is not compatible with that webos version
Jan 01 18:03:58 <i3luefire> nice script btw
Jan 01 18:07:15 <RagingMind> i3luefire, it has issues... it doesn't handle stopping the daemon all that well
Jan 01 18:07:55 <RagingMind> I keep hoping someone with script kung-fu powers will clean it up a bit, heh
Jan 01 18:10:15 <i3luefire> i used the quick and dirty method anyway
Jan 01 18:16:29 <i3luefire> so is  my device actually not compatible with 2.0 or is that an indication i have screwed up somewhere
Jan 01 18:17:07 <RagingMind> i3luefire, what directions are you following?
Jan 01 18:17:29 <i3luefire> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade
Jan 01 18:18:31 <i3luefire> i even read the whole thing
Jan 01 18:18:35 <RagingMind> I installed 2.1 on my vzw pre+ with those directions, and I know people in this channel have used them to install on sprint pre-'s
Jan 01 18:18:59 <RagingMind> exactly what step on that wiki page does it fail at?
Jan 01 18:20:05 <i3luefire> the doctor step 4
Jan 01 18:20:26 <i3luefire> but..
Jan 01 18:22:27 <i3luefire> i get this on step 3 too i just assumed i should move forward
Jan 01 18:22:29 <i3luefire> http://pastebin.com/pNgDY4ih
Jan 01 18:22:49 <i3luefire> ignoring the errors at the bottom
Jan 01 18:27:06 <RagingMind> i3luefire, you need to install zip
Jan 01 18:27:27 <RagingMind> and any other missing utilities that metadoctor needs (listed on the meta-doc wiki page)
Jan 01 18:41:42 <i3luefire> RagingMind: thanks again
Jan 01 18:59:14 <krushia> i just did an "ipkg-opt install autossh" and ipkg pulled in openssh and openssl which overwrote the preware-installed version. out of curiosity, is there a way to prevent such accidentallies in the future?
Jan 01 19:01:00 <wrea> everyones back lol
Jan 01 19:01:32 <dwc-> that's fine, the optware one works
Jan 01 19:02:43 <krushia> i'm guessing the only big difference is preware variety uses upstart?
Jan 01 19:03:17 <krushia> and throws things in crypto
Jan 01 19:18:34 <ka6sox-away> krushia, yes, thats the way it works (and how even Palm does it for anything but system software)
Jan 01 20:16:57 <invalidopcode> does anyone have any suggestions for repairing a damaged sdcard partition on the touchpad?
Jan 01 20:24:02 * dwc- wishes his touchpad had an SD card
Jan 01 20:25:38 <invalidopcode> haha me two :P sorry, i mean the /media/internal partition or whatever it is
Jan 01 20:28:03 <dwc-> does it still boot? put it in usb drive mode and chkdsk/fsck from a usb host
Jan 01 20:40:00 <i3luefire> i cannot get my pre to let me log in
Jan 01 20:40:34 <|abbie|> to your palm profile?
Jan 01 20:40:39 <i3luefire> yes
Jan 01 20:41:24 <i3luefire> i have meta-doctored to 1.4.5.1 and back to 2.1 and back again. and again and again
Jan 01 20:41:59 <i3luefire> neither will allow me to log in to my palm profile or create a new one
Jan 01 20:43:05 <i3luefire> i have tried wifi only too
Jan 01 20:43:44 <i3luefire> because i do not have an account anymore with sprint
Jan 01 20:44:10 <invalidopcode> dwc-: yes, it does boot, i'll try that
Jan 01 20:50:33 <dwc-> i3luefire: try baking the wifi profiles into the doctor
Jan 01 20:51:07 <i3luefire> dwc-: how do you mean
Jan 01 20:51:27 <dwc-> open the Makefile
Jan 01 20:51:29 <dwc-> search for "WIFI"
Jan 01 20:51:39 <i3luefire> dwc-: the password for the wifi
Jan 01 20:52:09 <i3luefire> dwc-: which make file? 2.1
Jan 01 20:52:49 <dwc-> the one in the top-level of the meta-doctor checkout
Jan 01 20:53:00 <dwc-> that you use to generate your meta-doctor jar
Jan 01 20:53:29 <i3luefire> oh
Jan 01 20:54:36 <i3luefire> what do i need to do with the make file after i find wifi
Jan 01 20:54:55 <i3luefire> uncomment it
Jan 01 21:04:33 <invalidopcode> dwc-: not really working, chkdsk doesn't like it because it says the filesystem type is 'RAW' and fsck complains about "Seek to 27523022336:Invalid argument"
Jan 01 21:04:52 <dwc-> sounds like your fs is fubared
Jan 01 21:05:32 <dwc-> if there's nothing on it you need, reformatting it might be the quickest solution
Jan 01 21:05:52 <PuffTheMagic_> just push wTerm v0.1.9
Jan 01 21:06:04 <PuffTheMagic_> with customizable font sizes and other vttest complance fixes
Jan 01 21:06:17 <invalidopcode> dwc-: i can still read from it... so i could copy everything off, format it, and just copy everything back right?
Jan 01 21:07:48 <invalidopcode> dwc-: also what filesystem do i format it with? vfat/fat32?
Jan 01 21:10:41 <invalidopcode> -- disregard the last two questions
Jan 01 21:24:09 <i3luefire> wow the pre minus is about the slowest booting smartphone ever
Jan 01 21:24:25 <dwc-> I've heard the crackberries are pretty bad too
Jan 01 21:25:57 <i3luefire> so has the full source for webos been released yet?
Jan 01 21:26:11 <dwc-> no
Jan 01 21:28:35 <i3luefire> ok now i am at the home screen on version 2.1 but i used the script for 2.2.4
Jan 01 21:29:59 <i3luefire> and how do i sign into my palm account or create a new one on this thing the palm account is blank
Jan 01 21:54:52 <i3luefire> how do i sign into my palm account or create a new one on this thing the palm account is blank
Jan 01 21:57:33 <ka6sox> OT: ask in #webos
Jan 01 22:06:03 <EricBlade> i'd think he'd be better off in here, considering he is talking about a meta-doctor
Jan 01 22:13:15 <ka6sox> EricBlade, oh.
Jan 01 22:13:31 <ka6sox> I didn't see up above
Jan 01 22:13:37 <ka6sox> so didn't realize how he got there.
Jan 01 22:15:30 <ka6sox> my bad
Jan 01 22:19:55 <i3luefire> ok i have used meta-doctor to upgrade my sprint pre minus. i used ./scripts/test-sprint-pre-2.2.4 --wifi-only and i had the made these changes to my make file http://pastebin.com/hDWErY now i want to either create a new account or log into my  old one but i cant find anywhere to even attempt to do that since i did not get the usual first use prompts
Jan 01 22:25:02 <dwc-> iirc, activation/first use gets bypassed with --wifi-only
Jan 01 22:26:01 <dwc-> I think you might lose profile creation
Jan 01 22:26:25 <dwc-> see if the first use app is visible
Jan 01 22:27:09 <i3luefire> it isnt
Jan 01 22:27:18 <dwc-> ^ smarter question there that time, btw
Jan 01 22:27:28 <dwc-> but your pastebin seems not to exist
Jan 01 22:27:51 <i3luefire> http://pastebin.com/hDWErYdG
Jan 01 22:31:19 <i3luefire> well if i do not put in the --wifi-only i cannot get passed the create/sign in screen probably because no internet access because my wifi needs a password probably
Jan 01 22:31:46 <i3luefire> and i have no sprint account anymore
Jan 01 22:35:16 <dwc-> hmm, having trouble cloning the new repo
Jan 01 22:35:38 <ka6sox> dwc-, which one?
Jan 01 22:35:53 <dwc-> meta-doctor off github
Jan 01 22:36:09 <dwc-> hanging on
Jan 01 22:36:09 <dwc-> error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 504
Jan 01 22:36:14 <dwc-> I'll probably just have to try again later
Jan 01 22:37:10 <dwc-> or it's retrying itself, since it hasn't returned me to a shell prompt yet
Jan 01 22:37:38 <augiedoggie> the git:// url works fine
Jan 01 22:46:11 <jcsullins> dwc-: I have heard of github issues recently (w/ some other repos)
Jan 01 22:48:38 <PuffTheMagic_> issues?
Jan 01 22:51:10 <jcsullins> @cyanogen: We are having issues with the CM repositories on Github. You might not be able to sync. I opened an issue with Github.
Jan 01 22:52:19 <krushia> if i wanted to have a shell script start on boot, on webos 1.4.5, where would i go? i'm seeing 42 event.d/init.d/services/... directories
Jan 01 22:53:40 <ka6sox> krushia, do you care whether you modify the / partition? or do you want it to be compatible?
Jan 01 22:55:02 <krushia> well, maybe in 10 years i'll decide to ipk it... so best to use the cleanest route
Jan 01 22:55:13 <GNUtoo> hi, people seem to know very well the palm pre here: I wondered why(the cause) running mplayer in a chroot made the pre freeze:
Jan 01 22:55:17 <GNUtoo>  * silicon bug?
Jan 01 22:55:22 <GNUtoo>  * kernel bug?
Jan 01 22:55:49 <krushia> /var/palm/event.d/ maybe?
Jan 01 22:56:07 <krushia> seems odd to be under var
Jan 01 22:56:11 <ka6sox> krushia, I do believe that is where the stuff needs to be
Jan 01 22:56:21 <ka6sox> krushia, its writable...whereas the / is not
Jan 01 22:56:28 <krushia> alright, thanks
Jan 02 00:47:47 <krushia> latest openssh packages in preware have broken postinst
Jan 02 00:48:30 <ka6sox> krushia, post the error please?
Jan 02 00:48:35 <krushia> fails to install upstart script because there is no var directory i think
Jan 02 00:48:39 <krushia> k hang on
Jan 02 00:52:10 <krushia> http://pastebin.com/NEZgQZuB
Jan 02 00:53:20 <ka6sox> krushia, let me pull and see who/what happened.
Jan 02 00:54:15 <ka6sox> krushia, do you have alpha or beta feeds on?
Jan 02 00:55:17 <krushia> i have beta turned on, but this is in stable
Jan 02 00:55:32 <krushia> 5.9.1-1
Jan 02 00:56:11 <krushia> (for sftp)
Jan 02 00:56:24 <krushia> ssh is 5.9.1-2
Jan 02 01:00:10 <ka6sox> I think that this is a problem that just occured today.
Jan 02 01:00:27 <ka6sox> it will take me more time to investigate why this happened.
Jan 02 01:00:41 <ka6sox> but it is clearly broken.
Jan 02 01:15:05 <ka6sox> krushia, the var directory is made if not there.
Jan 02 01:15:18 <ka6sox> (if you are talkin about the APPID one.
Jan 02 01:15:19 <ka6sox> )
Jan 02 01:15:35 <ka6sox> a find followed by a mkdir -p
Jan 02 01:15:52 <krushia> well it didn't make it
Jan 02 01:18:13 <ka6sox> can you get me a directory listing of/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/mobi.optware.openssh/opt/ ?
Jan 02 01:18:41 <ka6sox> bbiaf...train time.
Jan 02 01:18:47 <ka6sox> (picking up family)
Jan 02 01:48:25 <krushia> nevermind... ssh install is fine
Jan 02 01:49:35 <krushia> there was a lock on a cryptofs directory, and the old sshd was stuck in d state
Jan 02 01:49:41 <krushia> had to reboot
Jan 02 01:50:18 <krushia> sorry about that
Jan 02 01:52:06 <krushia> good news is my tunnel to compressing http proxy is working fine now
Jan 02 01:55:47 <krushia> spoke too soon... freetether clobbers iptables
Jan 02 01:56:18 <krushia> I'll figure it out soon enough :)
Jan 02 02:06:08 <EricBlade> hmm. wterm looks .. nice
Jan 02 02:31:13 <krushia> new trick: alias man="ssh user@magicfuntooserverwithalloptwaremanpages man"
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