**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 21 02:59:57 2012
Jan 21 03:57:31 <bnceo`tp> sup
Jan 21 03:58:15 <bnceo`tp> anyone know why I only see one patch in preware on my 3.0.5 touchpad?
Jan 21 04:12:14 <rwhitby> cause that's all that has been ported to 3.0.5 so far
Jan 21 04:38:38 <rwhitby> an non-US app tuckerbox users around?
Jan 21 04:41:05 <Hewball> rwhitby: does another AU user help
Jan 21 04:41:12 <rwhitby> yes
Jan 21 04:41:29 <rwhitby> can you please test app tuckerbox 1.0.3 from the beta-apps feed?
Jan 21 04:43:48 <rwhitby> Hewball: what locale is your device set to?  en_US or en_AU
Jan 21 04:51:49 <Hewball> everything is set to AU im pretty sire
Jan 21 04:51:51 <Hewball> sure
Jan 21 04:52:54 <Hewball> it gve me AU in the locale drop down it app tuckerbox
Jan 21 04:56:34 <Hewball> yeps my palm catalog it set to feeds/palm-cataloge/en_AU now
Jan 21 05:02:54 <rwhitby> Hewball: so all good?
Jan 21 05:03:05 <rwhitby> (not that you'll see anything different between en_US and en_AU(
Jan 21 05:03:18 <Hewball> seems to be feeds are all working and downloading
Jan 21 05:03:31 <rwhitby> thanks
Jan 21 07:28:36 <hyper> hello all
Jan 21 07:55:48 <dwc-> hi
Jan 21 10:08:43 <EricBlade> rwhitby: do you think we'll be able to make the palm-* stuff run via wifi someday?
Jan 21 10:18:17 <dwc-> you could already write a "palm-install" to cat ipk | ssh device "cat > ipk ; ipkg install ... ipk"
Jan 21 10:21:18 <EricBlade> oh damn i'm having the sound problem in CM7 now.
Jan 21 10:57:24 <cryptk> EricBlade, one thing to keep in mind about all of the palm- utilities that interact with the device, they work over novacom
Jan 21 10:57:38 <cryptk> novacom literally just creates a pipe between the device and the computer
Jan 21 10:58:09 <cryptk> I have been able to have MP3's stored on my phone, and using novacom, cat the MP3, and then pipe it into mplayer on my computer and have it play on my computer
Jan 21 11:07:51 <divilis> hi all, could we use the forward guesture to enable fullscreen mode in terminal( WebOS app).
Jan 21 11:21:54 <bhuey> folks
Jan 21 11:28:21 <cryptk> hola
Jan 21 11:35:11 <nomad84> hello
Jan 21 12:37:10 <digity> what's a good TCP Congestion to use??
Jan 21 13:03:10 <zaur-ibr> hi,how can I download application by impostah?
Jan 21 13:04:08 <zaur-ibr> do anybody know it?
Jan 21 13:11:29 <cryptk> zaur-ibr, go to App Catalog in impostah
Jan 21 13:11:45 <cryptk> then at the bottom you can put in the appid of the application and tap install
Jan 21 13:12:00 <cryptk> that will only work though for apps that are either free, or paid, but you have already purchased them
Jan 21 13:12:11 <cryptk> it will not allow you to install a paid app that you have not paid for.
Jan 21 13:21:59 <zaur-ibr> thanks for answer,but it can't show me apps
Jan 21 13:28:23 <cryptk> zaur-ibr, impostah can't show you apps, it can only install an app with the appid you give it
Jan 21 13:28:34 <cryptk> are you thinking of apptuckerbox maybe?
Jan 21 13:28:46 <cryptk> that's the app that enables getting the palm-catalog feed back into preware
Jan 21 13:32:45 <zaur-ibr> cryptk,I just open apps,and only can save.but can't install
Jan 21 13:33:57 <zaur-ibr> and I see I'd,but don't understand "appid",what does it mean?
Jan 21 13:34:47 <cryptk> the appid is a unique identifier for all webos applications
Jan 21 13:34:58 <cryptk> for example, the appid for preware is ord.webosinternals.preware
Jan 21 13:35:10 <cryptk> s/ord.webosinternals.preware/org.webosinternals.preware/
Jan 21 13:35:18 <cryptk> meant to type org there, lol
Jan 21 13:35:35 <cryptk> in order to install an application with impostah, you would need to know the applications appid
Jan 21 13:35:49 <cryptk> what application is it that you are trying to install?
Jan 21 13:37:57 <zaur-ibr> oh,wait a little,please
Jan 21 13:40:50 <zaur-ibr> com.apptech.bookreaderfree
Jan 21 13:41:18 <cryptk> ok, put that into impostah where it has the text box for appid, and then tap on install application
Jan 21 13:41:50 <cryptk> in Impostah, click on App Catalog, then scroll down to the "Application Installation" section
Jan 21 13:42:19 <zaur-ibr> ok,I'll try
Jan 21 13:42:25 <cryptk> well, out in the appid, then tap "Get Application Info" then tap "Install Application"
Jan 21 13:45:04 <zaur-ibr> thanks,friend,I'd learn,thanks very much
Jan 21 13:45:11 <cryptk> no problem ;)
Jan 21 13:47:11 <zaur-ibr> but what is the promo code?do you know?
Jan 21 13:47:40 <cryptk> a promo code is something that an app developer can make to give out a free copy of an application
Jan 21 13:47:51 <cryptk> the promo code section in impostah lets you check if a promo code is still valid
Jan 21 13:52:48 <zaur-ibr> I see,thanks again
Jan 21 16:49:08 <EricBlade> cryptk: interesting.
Jan 21 17:00:37 <Guest25768> hey guys does anyone here work on WOSQI dev?
Jan 21 17:01:01 <dwc-> no
Jan 21 17:02:14 <dwc-> WOSQI is not a webos-internals project and the author is not here
Jan 21 17:02:32 <Guest25768> okay cool thank you.
Jan 21 17:25:50 <alonglost> is there a way to completely erase all the partitions on a touchpad
Jan 21 17:32:48 <alonglost> my device is stuck at 8% in the doctor and i can't find the uimage from the jar
Jan 21 17:33:03 <alonglost> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover#Doctor_disconnects_at_8.25
Jan 21 17:36:50 <dwc-> the uImage is in the webOS.tar
Jan 21 18:06:49 <alonglost> which one do i use
Jan 21 18:06:53 <alonglost> dwc
Jan 21 18:07:42 <alonglost> dwc-
Jan 21 18:41:56 <alonglost> yesterday i managed to erase the whole media partition on my touchpad. the computer won't recognize it and when it does boot it only has the browser.
Jan 21 18:42:28 <alonglost> i need a surefire way to format the whole thing to factory default, partitions and all
Jan 21 19:57:32 <dwc-> alonglost: I only see one uImage
Jan 21 19:57:49 <dwc-> and the answer to your other question is at the bottom of the page you cited
Jan 21 22:55:41 <slamdunksaliby> guys i need some serious help...
Jan 21 22:55:53 <LarrySteeze> what's up?
Jan 21 22:57:04 <slamdunksaliby> my touchpad wont charge with the correct usb cable nor connect to the computer...it says device malfunction...im trying to doctor my touchpad before i run out of battery but ii cant even connect it to anything
Jan 21 22:58:19 <slamdunksaliby> this happened after installing cm9 i know i was asking for it but is there anyway to fix this problem?
Jan 21 22:58:33 <slamdunksaliby> ive uninstalled cm9 and still no luck
Jan 21 23:00:33 <LarrySteeze> ok, I can help
Jan 21 23:00:39 <LarrySteeze> err
Jan 21 23:00:55 <LarrySteeze> slamdunksaliby: if you stay here I can help :P
Jan 21 23:01:04 <slamdunksaliby> sorry haha
Jan 21 23:01:11 <LarrySteeze> I won't be able to respond quickly, because I'm doing a few things but I can
Jan 21 23:01:41 <slamdunksaliby> ok thank you soo much i just need an expert cuz i know most cant help ith this issue
Jan 21 23:02:21 <LarrySteeze> so what says device malfunction, your computer?
Jan 21 23:02:39 <slamdunksaliby> btw ive tried my friends touchpad and it charges and connects fine
Jan 21 23:02:41 <slamdunksaliby> yes
Jan 21 23:03:10 <LarrySteeze> have you tried booting into usb mode?
Jan 21 23:03:15 <slamdunksaliby> i went to preware and removed android but im guessing it was from cm9
Jan 21 23:03:28 <slamdunksaliby> yes and it still doesnt read it! lol im stuck
Jan 21 23:03:37 <LarrySteeze> wait, webos still boots?
Jan 21 23:03:52 <slamdunksaliby> yeah but it wont charge nor connect to a computer
Jan 21 23:04:01 <slamdunksaliby> its at 50 percent right now
Jan 21 23:04:42 <LarrySteeze> it won't charge when plugged into the wall?
Jan 21 23:05:26 <slamdunksaliby> yeah it says the voltage isnt high enough but im using the cable and charger that came with it! my friends touchpad charges with the same cable!
Jan 21 23:05:46 <LarrySteeze> that's a little odd
Jan 21 23:06:03 <slamdunksaliby> it is most certainly i know this is probably a first
Jan 21 23:06:28 <LarrySteeze> normally I would say it sounds like a hardware issue, but it sounds like something *could* have happened with webos, though I don't know how
Jan 21 23:06:39 <LarrySteeze> what patches do you have installed?
Jan 21 23:07:20 <slamdunksaliby> yeah know the touchpad inside out in terms of troubleshooting but the problem is i cant even doctor the fix it
Jan 21 23:07:36 <LarrySteeze> but if it doesn't recognize it in usb mode, that's strange too
Jan 21 23:07:41 <slamdunksaliby> i have no patches i have recently doctored to 3.0.5 and have played with cm9
Jan 21 23:08:03 <LarrySteeze> I'm assuming you tried novaterm?
Jan 21 23:08:55 <LarrySteeze> is it linux or windows you're communicating with the TP through?
Jan 21 23:09:11 <LarrySteeze> or mac
Jan 21 23:09:32 <slamdunksaliby> ive tried to reinstall the novaterm drivers...the problem is that my friends touchpad still connects fine...its windows 7 64 bit
Jan 21 23:10:21 <LarrySteeze> i understand you've connected other deviecs to your same computer, but have you tried connecting your device to another computer?
Jan 21 23:10:44 <slamdunksaliby> i tried that to! still no luck with a windows vista 32 bit
Jan 21 23:10:45 <LarrySteeze> this would help identify whether it is your device or just the communication between the two
Jan 21 23:11:06 <slamdunksaliby> its my device im almost 100 percent certain
Jan 21 23:11:13 <LarrySteeze> did you try a factory reset?
Jan 21 23:11:23 <LarrySteeze> and does it charge on a touchstone?
Jan 21 23:11:35 <slamdunksaliby> yup i did a secure erase and my device is almost done with a secure fulll erase
Jan 21 23:11:37 <rwhitby> put it into recovery mode and doctor it
Jan 21 23:11:49 <rwhitby> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover
Jan 21 23:12:09 <slamdunksaliby> when i put it into recovery mode rod it doesnt recognize the driver
Jan 21 23:12:36 <LarrySteeze> rwhitby: have you had experience where it's recognized in recovery mode but not in USB mode?
Jan 21 23:12:39 <rwhitby> then the issue is with your computer, cause Android doesn't change the bootloader (which is what you are talking to in recovery mode)
Jan 21 23:13:03 <slamdunksaliby> it doesnt recognize any mode
Jan 21 23:13:24 <slamdunksaliby> ive tried my friends and it charges and is recognized on the computer
Jan 21 23:13:36 <LarrySteeze> I am more under the imperssion something happened to the hardware on your touchpad
Jan 21 23:13:52 <slamdunksaliby> yeah but idk how to tell hp that haha
Jan 21 23:13:53 <LarrySteeze> the usb port itself
Jan 21 23:14:01 <slamdunksaliby> thats why im going to u guys :P
Jan 21 23:14:20 <slamdunksaliby> so ur saying the cm9 thing is a coincidence?
Jan 21 23:14:26 <LarrySteeze> I think so
Jan 21 23:14:47 <rwhitby> I still suspect the host computer
Jan 21 23:15:00 <rwhitby> especially if it's windows
Jan 21 23:15:02 <LarrySteeze> rwhitby: he tried it on two different computers
Jan 21 23:15:20 <LarrySteeze> slamdunksaliby: do you know how to use virtualbox?
Jan 21 23:15:31 <LarrySteeze> or do you dual-boot by chance/
Jan 21 23:15:40 <rwhitby> LarrySteeze: the chance of it being able to get into recovery mode, and the USB not working to flash it, is extremely remote
Jan 21 23:15:52 <rwhitby> LarrySteeze: there are so many other more plausible reasons
Jan 21 23:16:07 <slamdunksaliby> i have virtual box but i dont know how to use it that well
Jan 21 23:16:10 <LarrySteeze> rwhitby: he can't connect via usb on the computer nor can he charge it via usb
Jan 21 23:16:27 <LarrySteeze> with the wall adapter
Jan 21 23:16:35 <slamdunksaliby> is there anything i can put into xterm to help solve the problem
Jan 21 23:16:59 <LarrySteeze> it's strange to me that it would be a host issue AND a wall charger issue
Jan 21 23:17:05 <rwhitby> LarrySteeze: yes, I hear the symptoms.  But I haven't seen a photo of it in recovery mode, nor a photo of another device in recovery mode being recognised by a doctor on the same computer with the same cable.
Jan 21 23:17:31 <rwhitby> I never believe what people tell me about computer problems.  It's always wrong or an opinion based on incorrect assumptions.
Jan 21 23:17:41 <LarrySteeze> heh
Jan 21 23:17:42 <rwhitby> I only believe cold hard objective proof.
Jan 21 23:17:49 <slamdunksaliby> i promise rod ive tried like everything
Jan 21 23:18:00 <slamdunksaliby> i know this thing inside and out
Jan 21 23:18:11 <rwhitby> slamdunksaliby: what OS on the host computer?
Jan 21 23:18:25 <slamdunksaliby> windows 7 64 bit
Jan 21 23:18:36 <rwhitby> that in itself accounts for over 95% of problems.
Jan 21 23:18:37 <LarrySteeze> rwhitby: you mean like when I had gotten usb tethering working within a few weeks of the pre- being released only to realize i had wifi enabled? >.<
Jan 21 23:19:06 <slamdunksaliby> is there anyway to doctor without usb connection?
Jan 21 23:19:09 <rwhitby> no
Jan 21 23:19:12 <LarrySteeze> no
Jan 21 23:19:13 <LarrySteeze> but
Jan 21 23:19:20 <LarrySteeze> ubuntu is pretty easy to use
Jan 21 23:19:45 <LarrySteeze> and you can partition a small part of your hard drive
Jan 21 23:19:50 <slamdunksaliby> ive used ubuntu on my touchpad
Jan 21 23:20:07 <rwhitby> LarrySteeze: I also have no proof that slamdunksaliby's definition of "recovery mode" matches mine
Jan 21 23:20:07 <LarrySteeze> chroot?
Jan 21 23:20:11 <slamdunksaliby> i made the 1.9 virtual image from my touchpad
Jan 21 23:20:18 <LarrySteeze> that's a good point
Jan 21 23:20:28 <slamdunksaliby> it was lxde
Jan 21 23:20:34 <LarrySteeze> slamdunksaliby: how are you entering recovery mode?
Jan 21 23:20:44 <slamdunksaliby> recovery mode is holding the home and volume up while its turning on
Jan 21 23:20:55 <rwhitby> ok
Jan 21 23:21:05 <slamdunksaliby> and it shows a usb symbol
Jan 21 23:21:36 <LarrySteeze> which I always (incorrectly) call usb mode
Jan 21 23:22:02 <slamdunksaliby> ok yeah those i too different things i know and both dont work
Jan 21 23:22:38 <rwhitby> and debugging this stuff in win7 64b is almost impossible
Jan 21 23:22:42 <slamdunksaliby> the secure full erase didnt seem to work either
Jan 21 23:23:42 <slamdunksaliby> whi have a feeling if this touchpad runs out of battery i wont ever be able to turn it on and charge it
Jan 21 23:25:06 <slamdunksaliby> rod i know u deal with people on a daily basis who doesnt know what there doing...but im pretty certain ive tried everything
Jan 21 23:27:03 <LarrySteeze> slamdunksaliby: have you tried doctoring from linux?
Jan 21 23:27:45 <slamdunksaliby> no i havent i can try but im not certain how to get linux running on windows...i only knew on the touchpad :/
Jan 21 23:28:08 <LarrySteeze> well you could do it via virtual box
Jan 21 23:28:29 <LarrySteeze> but if you're having issues within windows, it's almost better to just run it natively
Jan 21 23:29:25 <rwhitby> slamdunksaliby: the issue is that I simply can't remotely debug something connected to windows, since I hardly ever use windows myself.
Jan 21 23:29:42 <LarrySteeze> you can either use the windows installer (i've never had any issues, but some people don't trust it) or install it the 'standard' way
Jan 21 23:30:01 <rwhitby> slamdunksaliby: if you had it connected to a native linux box, or a macosx laptop, then I'd attempt to debug it
Jan 21 23:31:07 <rwhitby> slamdunksaliby: but I know of no failure mode where installing android could affect a recovery mode doctoring starting (it could stop it from completing, but not from starting)
Jan 21 23:31:07 <slamdunksaliby> ok i see what u mean...what are the easiest steps to make a small linux partition on windows?
Jan 21 23:31:31 <LarrySteeze> and by the way, for the record, I'd say rod talks to people who know what they're talking about more than not
Jan 21 23:31:38 <LarrySteeze> slamdunksaliby: I can help you with that too
Jan 21 23:31:49 <LarrySteeze> let me get you a link
Jan 21 23:32:08 <slamdunksaliby> oh ok haha i just know people on the forums ask dumb questions sometimes :P
Jan 21 23:32:21 <slamdunksaliby> like they dont read first
Jan 21 23:32:41 <LarrySteeze> keep in mind who rod works with though
Jan 21 23:32:45 <rwhitby> slamdunksaliby: also, if you do a power+home total shutdown and put it on a touchstone, it should trickle charge
Jan 21 23:33:15 <LarrySteeze> I'm still unclear whether or not slamdunksaliby has a touchstone. I've asked a few times to no response O.o
Jan 21 23:33:15 <slamdunksaliby> thats another problem i donthave a touchstone :/
Jan 21 23:33:19 <rwhitby> if that doesn't work, then either the hardware is screwed, or your bootloader is toast.  if you can see the USB logo on the screen in recovery mode, then your bootloader is not toast.
Jan 21 23:33:34 <rwhitby> same should work through a usb cable
Jan 21 23:33:37 <dwc-> power+home total shutdown?
Jan 21 23:33:39 <LarrySteeze> I'm doubting he's touched the bootloader
Jan 21 23:33:53 <LarrySteeze> dwc-: pushing and holding power and home shuts it down completely
Jan 21 23:33:57 <rwhitby> dwc-: hold power+home on a touchpad for 20+ seconds
Jan 21 23:34:12 <dwc-> oh, see I thought that rebooted it
Jan 21 23:34:26 * dwc- obviously hasn't actually done it, just told other people to do it :x
Jan 21 23:34:29 <LarrySteeze> it "reboots" it if you push the power again afterwards
Jan 21 23:34:47 <rwhitby> LarrySteeze: yes, the bootloader being involved in this problem can be discounted, since the USB logo is being seen
Jan 21 23:34:57 <slamdunksaliby> if i press the home and power it just boots
Jan 21 23:35:00 <LarrySteeze> slamdunksaliby: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
Jan 21 23:35:11 <LarrySteeze> that is the easiest way for you to install it...and should work with no issue
Jan 21 23:35:21 <LarrySteeze> I have personally never had any issues with that method
Jan 21 23:35:43 <slamdunksaliby> ok thanks larry and how big is the partition?
Jan 21 23:36:42 <LarrySteeze> for your uses, I would just accept all of the default options
Jan 21 23:37:35 <slamdunksaliby> ok its downloading
Jan 21 23:38:08 <slamdunksaliby> now installing
Jan 21 23:38:49 <slamdunksaliby> will will it be an icon on windows or in the startup screen?
Jan 21 23:42:04 <LarrySteeze> you'll want to reboot and then boot into ubuntu
Jan 21 23:42:19 <LarrySteeze> make sure you install an irc program from ubuntu
Jan 21 23:42:39 <slamdunksaliby> under synaptic package manager?
Jan 21 23:43:45 <LarrySteeze> use whatever method you prefer
Jan 21 23:44:53 <LarrySteeze> package managers are easy
Jan 21 23:47:15 <slamdunksaliby> when i plug in the touchpad the driver syays unknown device if that helps
Jan 21 23:47:56 <LarrySteeze> are you using two computers?
Jan 21 23:48:18 <slamdunksaliby> on both of the computers ive tried it said that
Jan 21 23:49:05 <slamdunksaliby> also im using webchat.freenode.net so couldnt i just use that in the browser for ubuntu?
Jan 21 23:49:18 <LarrySteeze> you could
Jan 21 23:49:49 <slamdunksaliby> ok cool i really appreciate ur help
Jan 21 23:51:21 <slamdunksaliby> so when ubuntu is finished installing and my computer restarts do i have to press an f key to select ubuntu?
Jan 21 23:51:57 <LarrySteeze> it should ask you what OS you want to boot and give you a timeout countdown
Jan 21 23:52:12 <slamdunksaliby> also the doctor for linux is the same or different? and how would rod debug my issue?
Jan 21 23:53:19 <LarrySteeze> what it'll really do is see if it's a windows issue or not
Jan 21 23:53:59 <slamdunksaliby> what would i need to provide him though?
Jan 21 23:54:14 <LarrySteeze> he'll chime in from time to time
Jan 21 23:54:23 <slamdunksaliby> haha ok
Jan 21 23:57:06 <slamdunksaliby> i guess ill just let u know when its almost done so i can reboot and then rejoin hopefully a browser is preinstalled
Jan 21 23:57:17 <LarrySteeze> ok
Jan 21 23:59:00 <slamdunksaliby> btw cm9 has had charging issues and it only supported mtp and no usb mount
Jan 22 00:00:07 * rwhitby is off to the beach
Jan 22 00:01:04 <halfhalo> funfun!
Jan 22 00:32:31 <slamdunksaliby> okay!
Jan 22 00:33:08 <slamdunksaliby> i got it but it have me a permissions error but it still worked
Jan 22 00:33:08 <slamdunksaliby> im in ubuntu
Jan 22 00:34:57 <slamdunksaliby> maybe i didnt run as administratot but nevertheless im on
Jan 22 00:36:29 <jcsullins> slamdunksaliby: you probably want to install novacom on unbuntu ...
Jan 22 00:37:03 <slamdunksaliby> okay haha thats why nothin happeed :p do i use webos quickinstall?
Jan 22 00:37:56 <jcsullins> yeah, that should work
Jan 22 00:54:44 <slamdunksaliby> imm having internet troubles :(
Jan 22 00:55:06 <slamdunksaliby> so i cant get novaterm installed on ubuntu
Jan 22 00:56:11 <slamdunksaliby> ?
Jan 22 00:56:16 <jcsullins> slamdunksaliby: does ubuntu connect to internet at all?
Jan 22 00:56:34 <slamdunksaliby> its having issues
Jan 22 00:57:54 <slamdunksaliby> idk why my internet is going in and out
Jan 22 00:58:13 <jcsullins> slamdunksaliby: you are on here via ubuntu?
Jan 22 00:58:38 <slamdunksaliby> yes
Jan 22 00:58:55 <jcsullins> ok, so it's connected to internet
Jan 22 01:02:22 <LarrySteeze> how do you know it is going in and out?
Jan 22 01:02:58 <LarrySteeze> you haven't been connected and disconnected to irc
Jan 22 01:03:10 <jcsullins> lol
Jan 22 01:03:11 <LarrySteeze> *sigh*
Jan 22 01:03:29 <jcsullins> interesting timing
Jan 22 01:03:34 <LarrySteeze> I *am* wearing shorts, but I refuse to eat them.
Jan 22 01:10:53 <LarrySteeze> no logging back on?
Jan 22 01:16:47 <jsaliby93> Finally! hah got a program
Jan 22 01:16:58 <alonglost> can anyone help me get an ipk for tailor
Jan 22 01:18:35 <jsaliby93> this is slamdunksaliby btw
Jan 22 01:18:35 <jsaliby93> Larry u there?
Jan 22 01:18:57 <alonglost> look benahd, i just need someone to mediafire an ipk for me
Jan 22 01:19:02 <alonglost> i royally fucked my touchpad today
Jan 22 01:19:51 <alonglost> deleted the whole media partition, now when it boots i only get the browser
Jan 22 01:19:53 <alonglost> won't hookup via usb
Jan 22 01:20:06 <alonglost> and couldn't find tailor on the alpha feeds in the first place
Jan 22 01:23:28 <LarrySteeze> I'm here
Jan 22 01:23:35 <LarrySteeze> on and off, anyway
Jan 22 01:24:00 <jsaliby93> Larry or rod if u guys could help me get the novacom drivers installed thatd be great :)
Jan 22 01:24:38 <jsaliby93> my touchpad doesnt do anything when i plug it in so im guessing i need the drivers
Jan 22 01:25:29 <LarrySteeze> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover
Jan 22 01:26:15 <jsaliby93> ubuntu wont open the .jar file
Jan 22 01:27:49 <jsaliby93> how do i open a .jar file in ubuntu
Jan 22 01:29:58 <LarrySteeze> double click on it
Jan 22 01:30:03 <directhex> do you have a jre installed?
Jan 22 01:30:46 <directhex> search ubuntu software centre for "jre"
Jan 22 01:30:59 <jsaliby93> ok
Jan 22 01:33:48 <jsaliby93> hopefully this works :)
Jan 22 01:36:03 <jsaliby93> so when this program installs the jar file should open?
Jan 22 01:43:30 <dwc-> no, bad
Jan 22 01:43:47 <dwc-> run the dr from a command line so you get the output
Jan 22 01:52:07 <jsaliby93> command line?
Jan 22 01:53:34 <LarrySteeze> terminal
Jan 22 01:54:46 <jsaliby93> Larry u still there lol
Jan 22 01:58:16 <LarrySteeze> sup
Jan 22 01:59:36 <jsaliby93> ok yeah i installed the drivers through quick install
Jan 22 01:59:56 <jsaliby93> no resposnse when i plug it in
Jan 22 02:00:46 <LarrySteeze> did you follow http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover ?
Jan 22 02:03:24 <LarrySteeze> scoutcamper: have you been hiding from me?
Jan 22 02:03:34 <jsaliby93> like doctor it? im confused i instaled the novacom drivers through webos quick install but ubuntu doesnt recognize my device
Jan 22 02:07:55 <LarrySteeze> scoutcamper is more well-versed with ubuntu so I'm trying to get him to chime in :P
Jan 22 02:08:34 <scoutcamper> hmmm
Jan 22 02:08:58 <scoutcamper> reading backlog
Jan 22 02:09:27 <jsaliby93> ubuntu still doesnt recognize my device as connected
Jan 22 02:10:16 <jsaliby93> ok :)
Jan 22 02:10:47 <jsaliby93> downloading a doctor 3.0.4 to try
Jan 22 02:14:38 <jsaliby93> uhh this is frustrating
Jan 22 02:16:20 <LarrySteeze> what response does the doctor give you from the command prompt?
Jan 22 02:16:23 <LarrySteeze> err terminql
Jan 22 02:16:25 <LarrySteeze> terminal
Jan 22 02:17:57 <dwc-> example: http://pastebin.com/xvm9KN7
Jan 22 02:19:38 <jsaliby93> still downloading....wait is there a way to access windows files through ubuntu?
Jan 22 02:20:30 <LarrySteeze> http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu
Jan 22 02:22:24 <jsaliby93> ill just wait for the download to finish lol
Jan 22 02:24:00 <jsaliby93> looks complicated
Jan 22 02:26:00 <jsaliby93> im guessing the error will be tht no device is connected :/
Jan 22 02:26:52 <jsaliby93> maybe rod will come back :)
Jan 22 02:31:42 <jsaliby93> almost done downloading yay
Jan 22 02:34:47 <jsaliby93> ok done now how do i show in termminal?
Jan 22 02:35:23 <LarrySteeze> show in terminal?
Jan 22 02:35:27 <LarrySteeze> do you mean open in terminal?
Jan 22 02:35:43 <LarrySteeze> think of terminal like command
Jan 22 02:36:03 <LarrySteeze> it's the same idea as cmd
Jan 22 02:36:07 <jsaliby93> it just says connect ur device to a usb cable
Jan 22 02:36:12 <jsaliby93> it didntt work
Jan 22 02:36:48 <LarrySteeze> you installed the novacom drivers?
Jan 22 02:38:46 <jsaliby93> yes i did still doesnt recognise
Jan 22 02:39:09 <LarrySteeze> I'm still thinking it's a harware issue
Jan 22 02:39:24 <LarrySteeze> s/I'm still/I still
Jan 22 02:39:56 <LarrySteeze> but scoutcamper is more well versed at the ubuntu stuff like I said
Jan 22 02:40:27 <LarrySteeze> so I'd rather someone who's able to help more appropriately answer linux questions
Jan 22 02:40:37 <LarrySteeze> scoutcamper: you still around?
Jan 22 02:41:16 <LarrySteeze> dwc-?
Jan 22 02:41:28 <jsaliby93> its fine man ive had it ill just call hp and say it isnt charging but i woont tell em about the cm9 part ;P
Jan 22 02:41:57 <LarrySteeze> you've been here a couple hours...I would hate for you to leave without an answer
Jan 22 02:42:18 <jsaliby93> ok ok haha more like 4 :P
Jan 22 02:42:36 <LarrySteeze> though I still stand by my original diagnosis ~_~
Jan 22 02:43:06 <jsaliby93> mine is still under warranty so they offer advanced exchange :)
Jan 22 02:43:24 <LarrySteeze> but you tried running the doctor in ubuntu while in recovery mode, right?
Jan 22 02:43:30 <jsaliby93> yes
Jan 22 02:43:52 <LarrySteeze> where is everyone? scale?
Jan 22 02:44:28 <LarrySteeze> PuffTheMagic: around?
Jan 22 02:44:34 <jsaliby93> idk what else to do
Jan 22 02:45:03 <PuffTheMagic> ya
Jan 22 02:45:14 <jsaliby93> rod?
Jan 22 02:45:14 <jsaliby93> haha saurik is here too?!
Jan 22 02:46:00 <jsaliby93> hey PuffTheMagic i desperately need the help
Jan 22 02:46:12 * PuffTheMagic doesnt like the sound of this
Jan 22 02:46:15 <LarrySteeze> lol
Jan 22 02:46:56 <LarrySteeze> I've come to the conclusion that his microusb port on his touchpad somehow korked itself...but rwhitby (who isn't around) seems to think otherwise
Jan 22 02:47:04 <LarrySteeze> I thought you may be able to offer some insight
Jan 22 02:47:41 <jsaliby93> i guess it has nothing to do with cm9 even though there are charging issues
Jan 22 02:47:42 <PuffTheMagic> is this a referb TP or one that came from the "2nd run"
Jan 22 02:48:38 <PuffTheMagic> ??
Jan 22 02:48:48 <PuffTheMagic> the 2nd runs / referbs have shit cables
Jan 22 02:48:58 <PuffTheMagic> use HP's online support
Jan 22 02:49:09 <PuffTheMagic> they will over night you a new cable and charger
Jan 22 02:49:14 <PuffTheMagic> with out blinking an eye
Jan 22 02:49:18 <PuffTheMagic> they know they are fucked
Jan 22 02:49:50 <jsaliby93> refurb
Jan 22 02:50:25 <jsaliby93> ive gone through a repair, refurbish, and usb cable replacement
Jan 22 02:50:46 <jsaliby93> its not that though my friends touchpad works with my charger
Jan 22 02:50:59 <PuffTheMagic> and same cable?
Jan 22 02:52:14 <jsaliby93> yes sir
Jan 22 02:52:37 <jsaliby93> its very strange and it wont charge nor connect to the computer in usb mode or recovery
Jan 22 02:52:45 <PuffTheMagic> hmm
Jan 22 02:52:53 <PuffTheMagic> repair #2 then?
Jan 22 02:54:08 <jsaliby93> ive tried muerstiple cables and comput
Jan 22 02:54:12 <jsaliby93> multiple
Jan 22 02:54:27 <jsaliby93> no its a first refurbished
Jan 22 02:55:19 <jsaliby93> this is my second unit
Jan 22 02:55:19 <jsaliby93> i had cm9 i was guessing it was from that
Jan 22 02:55:30 <jsaliby93> i know iwas dumb enough to put it on there
Jan 22 02:55:45 <jsaliby93> it did having charging problems
Jan 22 02:57:44 <jsaliby93> i guess i will call hp support and get another touchpad with advanced replacement again
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