**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 06 02:59:58 2012
Feb 06 07:07:56 <PuffTheMagic> wterm 0.3.999 is in the feeds
Feb 06 07:13:49 <RagingMind> PuffTheMagic, any hope of support for 2.1.0?  a decent terminal would be enough for me to try 2.2.4 on my Pre+
Feb 06 08:42:40 <Jack87> PuffTheMagic, i have a stock unlocked pre2 (no service attached to it)
Feb 06 08:42:59 <Jack87> did you need testing with something?
Feb 06 09:13:44 <RichT23> PuffTheMagic: Im still having issues with wterm and my Pre3
Feb 06 09:14:05 <RichT23> the dot on my keyboard seems to delete
Feb 06 10:55:32 <masterhit> amiga stuff anyone? 09:32 < Apple][fan> bedtime
Feb 06 10:55:35 <masterhit> oops
Feb 06 10:55:42 <masterhit> http://www.ebay.de/sch/masterhit1/m.html?item=130643085473
Feb 06 10:55:49 <masterhit> amiga stuff anyone?
Feb 06 14:06:08 <YeahRight> it seems my touchpad autoupdated to 3.0.5 while i didnt remove any preware patches yet..what is the best way to proceed now?
Feb 06 14:07:58 <YeahRight> Should i run Emergency Patch Recovery ? and will AUSMT System Verification be of any use? If so how can i use that?
Feb 06 14:17:26 <YeahRight> rwhitby you maybe around sir?
Feb 06 14:35:44 <PuffTheMagic> RagingMind, check the alpha feed for 2.1 support
Feb 06 14:37:21 <YeahRight> PuffTheMagic are you able to give me some advice maybe?
Feb 06 14:39:59 <PuffTheMagic> wrt to patches, prob not
Feb 06 14:41:03 <YeahRight> ok
Feb 06 15:14:39 <michpo69> Hi
Feb 06 15:14:53 <michpo69> Anybody online?
Feb 06 15:15:14 <michpo69> Okey, I can wait
Feb 06 15:19:34 <Compn> just aks your question bro
Feb 06 15:20:15 <michpo69> Hi
Feb 06 15:21:26 <michpo69> This is my thread
Feb 06 15:21:28 <michpo69> http://forums.webosnation.com/palm-pre-2/311384-sigining-problem-wi-fi-30h-no-action-read-more.html
Feb 06 15:21:31 <michpo69> But
Feb 06 15:21:54 <michpo69> Someone called me and It stopped
Feb 06 15:23:11 <michpo69> I restarted the phone, and some of apps are there, some apps disappeared
Feb 06 15:26:48 <RagingMind> hmm... trying wterm and luna crashed, but it just crashed a couple minutes ago too and all I did was pull it off my touchstone
Feb 06 15:35:03 <michpo69> I have just putted 4GB files on webos quick install, and it thinks, but does nothing
Feb 06 15:35:25 <michpo69> And I can't press + or any else
Feb 06 16:12:52 <YeahRight> where am i supposed to find webos-ausmt.log after having installed  AUSMT System Verification? it doesnt seem to be there (USB mode)
Feb 06 16:18:05 <RagingMind> is there a reason that the supernes save/restore script saves all the game roms?
Feb 06 16:47:06 <masterhit>  heya. anybody an idea on how to turn on irtual keyboard
Feb 06 16:47:06 <masterhit>                    while a bluetooth keyboard is turned on?
Feb 06 19:59:36 <YeahRight> where am i supposed to find webos-ausmt.log after having installed  AUSMT System Verification? it doesnt seem to be there (USB mode)
Feb 06 22:10:47 <rwhitby> YeahRight: have you installed any patches?
Feb 06 22:12:23 <YeahRight> hi rwhitby
Feb 06 22:12:28 <YeahRight> thanks for adressing me
Feb 06 22:12:41 <YeahRight> yeah i had installed several patches
Feb 06 22:12:41 <Trent> Hello
Feb 06 22:12:48 <rwhitby> have, not had
Feb 06 22:12:59 <rwhitby> have you installed any AUSMT patches (e.g. from the 3.0.5 feed)
Feb 06 22:12:59 <YeahRight> well i didnt remove any
Feb 06 22:13:04 <YeahRight> no
Feb 06 22:13:14 <YeahRight> i'm talking about the old patches
Feb 06 22:13:20 <YeahRight> for 3.0.4
Feb 06 22:13:22 <Trent> I am a french HP Pre 3 user, sorry for my bad english.
Feb 06 22:13:54 <YeahRight> my question was this originally: it seems my touchpad autoupdated to 3.0.5 while i didnt remove any preware patches yet..what is the best way to proceed now?
Feb 06 22:14:14 <YeahRight> i didnt know HP could just update webos without me giving permission
Feb 06 22:14:22 <rwhitby> same as always. Saved Packages list, EPR, reinstall patches.
Feb 06 22:14:33 <Trent> I want use the amp key on xeutah / xterm on HP Pre 3, but i can't :(
Feb 06 22:14:40 <rwhitby> AUSMT is not used in Pre 3 patches yet
Feb 06 22:15:12 <YeahRight> shouldnt AUSMT System Verification tell me that i got those old patches installed?
Feb 06 22:15:14 <Trent> Why print the amp (&) on xterm with pre keyboard ?
Feb 06 22:17:21 <rwhitby> no, Pre 3 patches are not AUSMT
Feb 06 22:19:39 <YeahRight> shouldnt AUSMT System Verification tell me that i got those old patches installed?
Feb 06 22:22:35 <rwhitby> those old patches were based on AUPT, not AUSMT.  It may or may not tell you, I don't know.
Feb 06 22:24:42 <YeahRight> it didnt tell me anything after installing
Feb 06 22:24:57 <YeahRight> no webos-ausmt.log either
Feb 06 22:25:15 <YeahRight> "Simply install this package and if you receive an error that means that there is some unknown or outdated file modification or patch installation."
Feb 06 22:25:37 <YeahRight> that made me expect to get some output
Feb 06 22:26:11 <rwhitby> have you run what I said yet?
Feb 06 22:27:21 <YeahRight> EPR you mean? not yet..will do now
Feb 06 22:27:31 <rwhitby> I mean what I said
Feb 06 22:27:36 <rwhitby> 08:44 rwhitby: same as always. Saved Packages list, EPR, reinstall patches.
Feb 06 22:28:36 <YeahRight> i updated the "saved packages list" if that's what you mean
Feb 06 22:29:07 <YeahRight> so next step would be EPR (it has been awhile so i it's no routine thing for me :P )
Feb 06 22:30:05 <YeahRight> thats correct right?
Feb 06 22:31:17 <dwc-> yes
Feb 06 22:32:34 <YeahRight> i also had another kernel installed..the autoupdate to 3.0.5 has installed a stock kernel again i suppose?
Feb 06 22:34:17 <dwc-> well, if you're patrickc, you didn't get a "stock kernel", you got "no kernel"
Feb 06 22:34:21 <dwc-> but yes
Feb 06 22:34:29 <dwc-> I'd expect so
Feb 06 22:36:10 <YeahRight> patrick?
Feb 06 22:43:06 <YeahRight> should i remove EPR directly after it has run which it does when installing?
Feb 06 22:45:19 <YeahRight> and i guess i should reboot before reinstalling the patches?
Feb 06 22:45:49 <YeahRight> and how will i know that the saved patches list will installed 3.0.5 compatible patches?
Feb 06 22:52:54 <YeahRight> could someone maybe answer those 3 questions even if they may sound stupid? :P
Feb 06 22:53:41 <dwc-> the saved packages list saves packageids, iirc so as long as those don't change you'll get the new versions of the patches
Feb 06 22:53:57 <dwc-> unless they don't exist yet
Feb 06 22:54:18 <YeahRight> ah ok
Feb 06 22:54:30 <YeahRight> and if they dont exist yet?
Feb 06 22:55:27 <YeahRight> they will be skipped?
Feb 06 23:27:27 <YeahRight> i didnt reboot my touchpad yet after the autoupdate to 3.0.5 and preware still shows F4 phantom kernel installed..should i remove it first before rebooting?
Feb 06 23:30:33 <YeahRight> weird thing is Govnah only shows Palm Default?
Feb 06 23:45:25 <YeahRight> When i try to remove F4 Phantom it says The webOS version has changed, leaving kernel as-is. And below that: Kernel removed: Device Restart IS required. Sounds contradictionary to me...?
Feb 06 23:58:12 <dwc-> what happens if you reboot
Feb 07 00:04:21 <YeahRight> it rebooted fine
Feb 07 00:04:50 <YeahRight> but i dont understand why preware tells me I still got a F4 kernel installed and Govnah doesnt have the profile for it
Feb 07 00:21:12 <rwhitby> having a kernel package registered as being installed (and then overwritten by an OTA update) and having the files actually still there and operating, are two very different things.
Feb 07 00:21:58 <rwhitby> If you install something, and don't uninstall it, and then overwrite the files that were installed (but not change the record of installation by uninstalling it), then what do you expect to happen?
Feb 07 00:24:07 <YeahRight> ah ofcourse..sorry..completley clear now
Feb 07 00:28:43 <rwhitby> For that final restart message to be correct, the kernel installation would need to correctly recognise all the different situations, and send some sort of status back to Preware, and then Preware would need to understand each of those status messages and do the right thing.
Feb 07 00:28:56 <rwhitby> Much simply just to say "Do a device restart, cause it may be needed"
Feb 07 00:29:01 <rwhitby> s/simply/simpler/
Feb 07 00:29:02 <infobot> rwhitby meant: Much simpler just to say "Do a device restart, cause it may be needed"
Feb 07 00:45:45 <bhuey> folk
Feb 07 00:45:47 <bhuey> folks
Feb 07 00:49:05 <halfhalo> hola
Feb 07 00:55:38 <YeahRight> right rwhitby
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