**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 01 02:59:59 2012 Mar 01 03:19:25 anyone have any idea why the download button in preware wouldn't work? Mar 01 03:20:07 preware installs and loads ok. updates the catalog Mar 01 03:20:21 but when I try to install something it just sits there Mar 01 19:37:52 so it doesnt matter which meta doctor I build- meta-att-preplus-2.1.0 test-att-preplus-2.2.4 or even the att-1.4.5 stock doctor- java -jar doctor.jar just opens a window- the right size for the doctor windows- then just hangs :/ Mar 01 19:39:44 what output? Mar 01 19:39:58 on the stock doctor Mar 01 19:40:19 last is it determining the locale Mar 01 19:40:28 same as the others Mar 01 19:40:37 or at least being verbose about what locale its using. Mar 01 19:41:27 I want to say Ive run the doctor on this machine before but its possible I havent. same machine, different operating system. Mar 01 19:41:50 so it hasn't even talked to the device yet, sounds like it might be a java problem, not a doctor problem Mar 01 19:41:54 what JVM is this Mar 01 19:42:35 oracle 7-3 Mar 01 19:42:51 yeah I dont think its a novaterm thing. that was installed before and working Mar 01 19:42:53 on what OS? Mar 01 19:43:01 um arch? *checks Mar 01 19:43:12 so linux Mar 01 19:43:19 yeah. Mar 01 19:43:51 I might say pick up the sun 1.6 latest and try with that Mar 01 19:44:48 yeah Im just noticing how this is an aur version of the jre not the 'official' package Mar 01 19:44:52 I've not personally run it under java7 Mar 01 19:44:53 aur? Mar 01 19:45:13 aur = arch linux community contributed packages Mar 01 19:45:49 well, I was mostly asking about the JVM because I know some programs don't work under openjdk (not sure if webosdr is one) Mar 01 19:46:01 but I know I've run it under 1.6 official Mar 01 19:46:03 *nod* Mar 01 19:46:23 (and god help you if you have the rhel/centos default of gcj) Mar 01 19:47:30 I think its oracle's yeah. Mar 01 19:47:40 cause I see openjdk available Mar 01 19:47:47 and I see openjdk 6 Mar 01 19:47:50 but not oracle 6 Mar 01 19:47:56 or sun or whoevers that was then Mar 01 19:48:45 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html Mar 01 19:48:48 Java SE 6 Update 31 Mar 01 19:48:56 AH-HA java 6 meant to run alongside an install of java7 Mar 01 19:48:57 excellent Mar 01 19:49:01 heh thanks Mar 01 19:49:11 I did see the 'fake-java' pacakge where the user installs their own Mar 01 19:49:12 well, dunno, depends on what sort of pkg you get I suppose Mar 01 19:49:36 on many systems, I skip the .rpm and just unpack my own from their .bin Mar 01 19:49:53 but usually the packages can co-exist Mar 01 19:50:07 *nod* they have a few packages for installing 6 alongside 7 Mar 01 19:50:10 debian does it pretty well too Mar 01 19:50:29 this machine needs to be rebuilt into debian but not until the owner gets back to town. arch is janky Mar 01 19:50:46 but I have 3 (3!) pres with which to play with linphone and hopefully get it to a stable place Mar 01 19:50:51 is there a solution out there for this - http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad-tips-information-resources/291698-tp-browswer-wont-download-files-2.html Mar 01 20:50:29 is the dev of mode-switcher sometimes on here. i think i have a bugreport for the veer Mar 01 20:53:36 basically: it seems like mode-switcher is using most of the cpu-time available. so it's probably in a loop somewhere. i don't mind helping out, but spending much time on this myself is far from optimal (it'll take me ages to figure out everything that someone with internal knowledge can just point me to). i can easily test-run on my veer and help to debug. i have a terminal open from my pc to my veer. Mar 01 22:23:50 oh well. same issue when using java 6 Mar 01 22:45:19 HP hasn't actually released the source code yet, correct? Mar 01 22:48:22 some, not all Mar 01 22:51:50 Takyoji: https://github.com/enyojs is the place to look so far Mar 01 22:53:32 and isis-project: https://github.com/isis-project/ Mar 01 22:54:17 sugardave: oh, i didn't know hp published that, i thought they only 'helped out' Mar 01 22:54:20 because those are just the more user-facing components of WebOS and so on Mar 01 22:54:48 madnificent: pretty sure that was an internal thing....but maybe I am wrong on that Mar 01 22:55:09 sugardave: you may be right Mar 01 22:55:25 I'm curious of the internals, and how reasonable it would be to actually get IPv6 support in the system (rather than them leaving out IPv6 from compilation in the kernel, as HP has done) Mar 01 22:55:33 Takyoji: internals will be released later this year Mar 01 22:56:01 Takyoji: current roadmap has beta release of Open webOS in August and a 1.0 release in September Mar 01 22:56:38 also, out of curiosity, I assume WebOS has it's own custom graphical system beyond X11, correct? Mar 01 22:56:46 alright Mar 01 22:57:44 afaik, there's nothing to stop you from building an ipv6 kernel Mar 01 22:58:03 Well you can, but it won't get beyond the boot screen, last I recall Mar 01 22:58:38 couldn't you do it as a module? Mar 01 22:58:39 Takyoji: there's the uberkernel, you could use their kernel build script and adapt it to your needs. Mar 01 22:59:15 http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/242551-ipv6-support-via-kmod.html Mar 01 23:01:06 that post is 2 years old Mar 01 23:01:48 so that couldn't even have been 1.4.0 Mar 01 23:02:04 or maybe 1.4.0 but not 2.x+ for sure Mar 01 23:02:07 I'm on webOS 2.1.0, with contemplation on jumping back to webOS 1 due to instability, so I assume it would apply Mar 01 23:02:58 and as it stands, there's still no support, I can just ask again and get the same answer: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=10028 Mar 01 23:05:21 compile it in, see what breaks Mar 01 23:05:52 my guess is autoconfig might even work out of the box Mar 01 23:06:28 as those people have said, you obviously won't get an GUI configuration for it Mar 01 23:07:14 The kernel can most certainly handle it, yes, and associate and everything, and system components may break though being only written for IPv4 Mar 01 23:07:30 So any suggested approach for such? Mar 01 23:08:56 for compiling or getting a compiled copy of the kernel module, etc Mar 01 23:09:20 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Building_Apps_and_Kernels Mar 02 01:32:04 http://developer.palm.com/blog/2012/02/sams-blog-march-deliverables/ is interesting. wonder how "Nyx" will work Mar 02 01:32:36 from the press release though it looks like open webos will be much different from webos 3.x Mar 02 01:32:56 (at least under the hood) Mar 02 01:37:06 yeah, though they seem to be putting effort into maintaining some degree of api compatibility Mar 02 01:37:53 I suspect a bunch of this is trying to replace some of the components that have IP-encumbered licensed tech with modified open source stuff that can do the same job Mar 02 01:38:14 the switch to a standard kernel, Nyx, and LevelDB especially look like that **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 02 02:59:58 2012