**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 04 02:59:59 2012 Apr 04 14:43:13 Hi Apr 04 14:45:30 ha anyone heard about OWOP Project? Apr 04 14:46:03 *has Apr 04 14:48:23 One World One Picture? Apr 04 14:51:06 no... Open webOS Phone Apr 04 14:51:52 a project to create a joint venture Apr 04 14:52:16 to build smartphones with Open webOS Apr 04 14:55:55 sounds interesting. doubt it will happen. Apr 04 14:57:20 DMeister-IT, first we have to have Open webOS Apr 04 14:57:28 then we work on getting it onto phones :) Apr 04 14:59:06 ... Probably, but it isn't better to organize the first from the marketing side? Apr 04 14:59:26 to be ready, I mean... Apr 04 14:59:33 and who would be doing said marketing? Apr 04 14:59:57 are you talking about building actual phones? or just porting like Cyanogenmod did? (just using them as a reference) Apr 04 15:01:09 no I'm talking about prepare all system of a joint venture to create smartphones with p Apr 04 15:01:31 Open webOS, when HP will rilease it Apr 04 15:01:41 *release Apr 04 15:04:36 I'm personally more interested in well supported tablet distros than in smart phones (not that I would turn that down). Should be a somewhat easier nut to crack, since there are plenty of chinese factories churning out cheap android tablets that should have no problem running WebOS instead. Apr 04 15:05:36 Though I guess there are probably chinese factories churning out reference design smart phones for second and third tier manufacturers as well. Apr 04 15:08:18 I'm referring to the partnership with a Chinese company for the production of devices... Apr 04 15:08:39 neva gonna happen. Not enough money in it. Apr 04 15:09:17 but we'll can manage all administrative, managerial, ecc... Apr 04 15:09:58 oh phew, just got touchpad to finally take a charge after it being out for almost a week :( (didn't have time to really look into it until now, but..) Apr 04 15:10:04 yikes that was scary Apr 04 15:10:07 * dtzWill hugs his TP Apr 04 15:10:10 dtzWill hah Apr 04 15:10:23 It does like to just sit there if its left uncharged for a while Apr 04 15:10:28 never been so happy to see that damn glaring low-battery logo Apr 04 15:11:10 halfhalo: i use it a lot, it shouldn't have gone for more than a few days uncharged at a time :/--but regardless last week or so couldn't get it to do anything when hooked up to various chargers Apr 04 15:11:20 ahhhh so glad to see the gesture thing glowing ^.^ Apr 04 15:11:32 I think the TP on my desk is going to take like a week to charge since it hasn't seen a charge since.... january? Apr 04 15:11:36 hah Apr 04 15:11:47 I have had that happen before as well Apr 04 15:12:53 there's time to prepare something... If you are intersted read here ;) http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-open-source-devices/313705-owop-open-webos-phones-community.html Apr 04 15:14:22 it's a pre-pre-alpha project... Maybe we can make it a real project! Apr 04 15:15:52 join here if you are interested in project https://groups.google.com/group/owop Apr 04 15:16:18 I guess it depends on how hard / expensive it is to acquire generic handsets. (I'd assume you wouldn't start with a custom design). Apr 04 15:18:39 maybe i forgot an important part... All members of project initially do all as volunteers... Apr 04 15:21:24 (Which is one reason why I'd think tablets would be the easier target. There can be a natural progression from distribution for commercially available tablets, to commercial entities that provide those tablet with webOS pre-installed (the way some companies have resold laptops w/ Linux installed), to directly importing batches of generic tablets from manucturers, and finally to customized designs if the market bears out. Apr 04 15:22:24 the costs will be proportional to the confidence our investitors have in us... Apr 04 15:22:27 Would also make a really nice netbook platform as well, though there are probably still areas where keyboard control could be improved. Apr 04 15:25:33 tablet and other will then... HP probably will make an other tablet witn Open webOS... We doesn't want webOS' fragmentation Apr 04 15:28:39 we want a smartphone of success to revitalize webOS Apr 04 15:29:09 So long as there is a stable application platform, I'm less concerned about platform fragmentation. Apr 04 15:30:44 Attention: fragmentation for webOS is not as Android fragmentation! For webOS it means DEATH... Apr 04 15:31:19 that's what i think... Apr 04 15:32:55 as for iOS... Apr 04 15:33:13 and Apple km Apr 04 15:33:21 know that Apr 04 15:33:45 My ideal vision for the future is that applications aren't tied to platform at all, which is one of the main things that attracted me to webOS over the competition in the first place. Rather than provide a proprietary application stack like Apple and Google did, Palm created an operating platform and a seperate application platform, the latter of which is portable to other environments. Apr 04 15:35:21 so you are talking about an eco-system of app? Apr 04 15:36:26 or what? Apr 04 15:36:41 The portability of Enyo 2.0 and the new Nyx abstraction later are nicely further that division. Apr 04 15:37:49 if webOS will die... Otherwise why? Apr 04 15:38:20 Essentially. "Enyo everywhere". Push it as an app solution not just for webOS but for iOS and Android and the desktop. Apr 04 15:38:57 in order for webos to have any semblance of a comeback, you need devs. In order to get devs, you need a compelling reason to make apps for the platform, and make it easy at the same time. Enyo sorta hits both Apr 04 15:40:40 Yeah. It's hard to convince people to release apps for a marginal platform. Or to take a platform mainstream. Apr 04 15:41:56 I think the trend toward writing to the web instead of to platforms is inevitable regardless. Will Amazon continue to maintain specific apps for iOS and Android in perpetuity, or will they eventually tell people to just use Cloud reader. Apr 04 15:44:28 I know... But I don't think it's so easy: you cannot transplant a prosperous tree from a drainpipe to desert... Apr 04 15:44:46 it will die... Apr 04 15:47:34 anyway now I'm leave... If you want continue to talk, joint in our project, or pm me on Nation Forum (look for "DMeister") Apr 04 19:09:37 Jeez, that guy's still going on about owop? I bet he's going to sell, like, a million phones Apr 04 19:13:56 depends on how you define "phones" and "a million" Apr 04 20:11:08 and "sell" Apr 04 20:11:25 it's good to ahve people excited Apr 04 21:12:00 dwc-: yeah I think open webos, if/when it arrives, will be something we load onto phones sold with android Apr 04 21:12:11 err, phones/tablets Apr 04 21:13:05 and honestly that's fine with me, I bought PC's with windows on them that I've loaded linux on, I never once thought that said PC needed to be sold with Linux Apr 04 21:23:13 I imagine there's gonna be a beagle/panda board thing based on omap5. I wanna play with that :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 05 02:59:58 2012