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Apr 11 04:10:11 <bhuey> rwhitby: yeah wondering how the removal of Sam is going to change things
Apr 11 04:10:23 <bhuey> PuffTheMagic: yeah about to do that
Apr 11 04:58:40 <rwhitby> bhuey: no idea
Apr 11 06:36:15 <bhuey> forgot to add... good freak'n riddence :)
Apr 11 22:50:30 * DougReeder waves hello
Apr 11 22:51:33 <DougReeder> If I just want to update a Verizon Pre 2 to 2.2, should I use the meta-doctor script "super-verizon-pre2-2.2.4" or "test-verizon-pre2-2.2.4" ?
Apr 11 22:54:00 <DougReeder> Is "super" the standard script, and "test" experimental?
Apr 11 23:04:57 <pc-world> DougReeder: this channel seems to be dead :-/
Apr 11 23:06:18 <DougReeder> Not uncommon
Apr 11 23:06:50 <DougReeder> Have you upgraded a Verizon Pre2 to 2.2.4?
Apr 11 23:08:07 <RagingMind> not dead... just in limbo
Apr 11 23:08:18 <DougReeder> I did it on my dev WR Pre2 and it was fine, but I don't want to screw up with my personal Pre2
Apr 11 23:08:34 <pc-world> DougReeder: I have an unlocked Pre2, got 2.2.4 OTA; though maybe I should have stayed on 2.1
Apr 11 23:08:56 <DougReeder> Why?
Apr 11 23:09:37 <DougReeder> Hmm, maybe my dev Pre2 got the OTA; I don't remember.
Apr 11 23:10:14 <pc-world> e.g. phone app (Enyo) is crap
Apr 11 23:10:37 <DougReeder> Hmm, that's unpromising.
Apr 11 23:10:58 <DougReeder> But without 2.2, how would you run Zap Photoshare? :-)
Apr 11 23:11:04 <pc-world> it's very laggy at least
Apr 11 23:11:24 <DougReeder> The phone app has always been laggy for me.
Apr 11 23:11:35 <pc-world> zap photoshare?
Apr 11 23:11:57 <DougReeder> http://outlinetracker.com/zapphotoshare/index.html
Apr 11 23:19:35 <DougReeder> 2.2 allows apps to open ports in the firewall, which is essential for running a web server.
Apr 11 23:20:05 <pc-world> DougReeder: ah I remember, there was a bug in the firewall API on webOS 2.1
Apr 11 23:20:17 <DougReeder> [nods]
Apr 11 23:21:12 <DougReeder> It's doubly a shame that 2.2 hasn't been released for the Veer - Zap is perfect for a small phone.
Apr 11 23:21:57 <DougReeder> ...with Touch-to-share, Zap on the Veer would be even cooler than the Pre3.
Apr 11 23:22:17 <pc-world> isn't there an "unofficial" release of Veer 2.2?
Apr 11 23:22:40 <DougReeder> Useing illegally shared ROMs
Apr 11 23:22:51 <DougReeder> [sighs]
Apr 11 23:23:02 <pc-world> well if there isn't an option...
Apr 11 23:23:10 <DougReeder> ... and buggy, too. I heard.
Apr 11 23:23:21 <pc-world> webOS is buggy either way ;)
Apr 11 23:23:29 <DougReeder> [nods]
Apr 11 23:24:32 <DougReeder> I'm hoping someone at HP uses a Veer (besides Jon Rubenstein, of course) sees Zap, and pushes to get 2.2 released for the Veer.
Apr 11 23:25:05 <DougReeder> A pleasant (if unlikely) scenario, you have to admit.
Apr 11 23:27:43 <pc-world> one can dream :P
Apr 11 23:28:03 <pc-world> why not just use USB?
Apr 11 23:28:57 <DougReeder> I don't know of any stock devices that supprt HTTP over USB, but everything with wifi does.
Apr 11 23:29:05 <DougReeder> And no cables!
Apr 11 23:30:39 <pc-world> USB mass storage device -> your favorite photo viewer?
Apr 11 23:31:18 <DougReeder> [shrugs] worksfine for desktop computers, but not for tablets.
Apr 11 23:31:52 <DougReeder> ... and USB mode block out all other functions.
Apr 11 23:33:22 <pc-world> that remembers me that once I wanted to write an FTP server app for webOS
Apr 11 23:34:30 <DougReeder> You could, but what's the use case?
Apr 11 23:35:52 <pc-world> you could access your files wireless and it wouldn't block anything else
Apr 11 23:35:52 <pc-world> but I probably won't do that anymore, sales counts aren't just worth the effort (anymore)
Apr 11 23:37:47 <DougReeder> [nods]
Apr 11 23:41:10 <pc-world> [nods] [quits] :D
Apr 11 23:51:38 <DougReeder> Huh, I wonder what triggered that?
Apr 12 00:30:52 <DougReeder> meta-doctor is updating my personal device now -- wish me luck!
Apr 12 00:53:13 <DougReeder_> My personal device has rebooted!
Apr 12 01:01:05 <mberg> Meh.  Reminds me - I need to prep to send my Pre2 in.
Apr 12 01:05:49 <DougReeder> Send it in where? Why?
Apr 12 01:48:58 <rooster> exit
Apr 12 01:49:04 <rooster> quit
Apr 12 01:52:40 <mberg> I managed to trip and shatter the screen.
Apr 12 01:53:18 <mberg> Surprisingly it still works.  I just need to be careful about glass splinters.  :)
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