**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 30 02:59:58 2012
May 30 05:26:10 <cenobyte_> hello everyone, my Pre's got here today and I like them, but I thought they would have webOS 2.x
May 30 05:26:23 <cenobyte_> i later read that's not officially supported
May 30 05:27:02 <cenobyte_> I am looking for anyone with webOS 2.x on a Pre or Pre + to tell me if it is worth it or not (I have 2 Pre+'s)
May 30 05:27:34 <cenobyte_> is there a more reliable PDF reader? Is webos2 more system intensive?
May 30 05:30:35 <cenobyte_> i mainly ask for my mom, who wants a better PDF reader and document viewer
May 30 05:30:52 <cenobyte_> the ones on webos 1.4.5.1 fail her, she says
May 30 05:50:46 <EricBlade> i can't speak for how much improved it is or not cenobyte_, but imo the pre+ runs 2.1 just fine
May 30 05:53:25 <cenobyte_> so does that void the warranty to change it to webos 2
May 30 05:53:28 <cenobyte_> ?
May 30 05:53:45 <cenobyte_> and does it read all pdf's you throw at it well>
May 30 05:53:47 <cenobyte_> ?
May 30 06:28:55 <rrix> cenobyte_: it does void the warranty yes
May 30 06:36:48 <cenobyte_> would you say you recommend upgrading to webOS 2?
May 30 06:37:56 <rwhitby> on a Pre+, yes.  on a Pre, no.
May 30 06:42:05 <cenobyte_> ok, thank you- i thought everyone was gone
May 30 06:42:16 <cenobyte_> yep, these are pre +'s
May 30 06:42:30 <cenobyte_> is it because of the storage? does it take more space?
May 30 06:43:04 <Robius> ram and cpu
May 30 06:43:53 <Robius> i run 2.1 on my Pre but it's sluggish
May 30 06:44:01 <cenobyte_> i thought it was the same cpu and double ram
May 30 06:44:34 <cenobyte_> is it as sluggish as pixi with webos 1.4.5.1?
May 30 06:45:06 <Robius> don't recall
May 30 06:45:10 * Robius out
May 30 06:46:11 <cenobyte_> well i'll keep that in mind thanks out
May 30 15:38:36 <Robius> is there a working twitter client on the pre3? carbon doesn't load the timeline anymore
May 30 15:46:04 <summatusmentis> I'm using Project Macaw on my pre2
May 30 16:11:53 <cvillers> agreed, macaw is a pretty good client
May 31 00:15:28 <invalidopcode> so is there a way to bypass activation on a pre3 and still a palm profile an all that? would that be a job for the metadoctor?
May 31 00:17:35 <dtzWill> invalidopcode: metadoc for sure will do it.  otherwise dev mode +... well in double-checking my memory found http://www.webosnation.com/bypass-activation-webos-2-x
May 31 00:18:17 <invalidopcode> ah thank you very much dtzWill
May 31 00:18:21 <dtzWill> which should do what you want.  devmode to skip activation, then impostah to activate via wifi, or log into profile, etc
May 31 00:18:27 <dtzWill> invalidopcode: np at all, GL :)
May 31 00:31:36 <invalidopcode> dtzWill: but to update to the latest system version I still have to use doctor, correct?
May 31 00:32:03 <dtzWill> invalidopcode: ? Can you not update via OTA/etc?
May 31 00:32:21 <dtzWill> (you might be right, but I don't know of any reason for that to be the case)
May 31 00:32:28 <invalidopcode> dtzWill: nope... i think i saw it listed as an effect of devmode
May 31 00:32:48 <dtzWill> oh i see. https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developing_on_an_unactivated_device.html mentions that.
May 31 00:32:52 <invalidopcode> that's okay, I don't mind. I've just had bad experiences with the doctor, so i don't really trust it :P
May 31 00:33:02 <dtzWill> i think if you do activate it via impostah you should be fine.
May 31 00:33:09 <dtzWill> invalidopcode: what problem are  you solving by doing this? lack of a data plan?
May 31 00:33:19 <invalidopcode> lack of a SIM card
May 31 00:33:37 <invalidopcode> I got it as a dev device
May 31 00:33:37 <rwhitby> just #*DEVMODE# it and then log into a profile with Impostah
May 31 00:33:48 <invalidopcode> rwhitby: I did that
May 31 00:34:01 <invalidopcode> but when I go to do a system update, it says can not connect
May 31 00:34:05 <dtzWill> yay rwhitby to the rescue. alright well i gotta run, GL invalidopcode :)
May 31 00:34:13 <dtzWill> invalidopcode: enable wifi? :P ;)
May 31 00:34:20 <invalidopcode> okay thanks for the help dtzWill
May 31 00:34:23 <rwhitby> do you have app catalog access?
May 31 00:34:24 <invalidopcode> and I'm not that dumb :P
May 31 00:34:35 <invalidopcode> rwhitby: technically, but it won't download any apps
May 31 00:34:48 <rwhitby> is it an email verified profile?
May 31 00:34:50 <invalidopcode> the device is on version 2.2.0
May 31 00:35:01 <invalidopcode> its the same profile i use for my touchpad
May 31 00:35:29 <invalidopcode> im just going to go ahead and doctor it with the latest version
May 31 00:35:58 <rwhitby> good plan
May 31 00:36:36 <invalidopcode> lets hope this goes better then last time i tried to doctor something :P
May 31 00:56:15 <dwc-> if you're going to update you might as well just doctor first
May 31 00:56:28 <dwc-> imho
May 31 00:57:10 <invalidopcode> oh good, it doctored successfully :)
May 31 00:57:38 * invalidopcode is relieved
May 31 01:08:15 <invalidopcode> okay everything seems to be working well now, thank you rwhitby, dwc-, and dtzWill for the help :)
May 31 01:08:26 <rwhitby> cheers
May 31 01:24:44 <bhuey> folks
May 31 01:24:48 <bhuey> hey rwhitby
May 31 01:31:19 <rwhitby> hey bhuey
May 31 01:33:32 <ka6sox> hiya folk
May 31 01:42:31 <oil> phxdevices.com eh?
May 31 01:43:27 <ka6sox> are the devices made of ash?
May 31 01:43:32 <ka6sox> or tears?
May 31 01:43:37 <ka6sox> or feathers?
May 31 02:00:06 <rwhitby> oil: yeah, dunno who they are.  domain registration points to Zukny on precentral forums.
May 31 02:10:41 <oil> hm
May 31 02:11:12 <oil> rwhitby: how goes community managing? :)
May 31 02:11:41 * ka6sox refrains from snarky remark...
May 31 02:27:40 <rwhitby> oil: it gets easier every day ...
May 31 02:28:10 <oil> heh
May 31 02:41:40 <PatrickC> so Phoenix Devices isn't part of WOSI?
May 31 02:41:57 * PatrickC thought it was for some reason
May 31 02:46:03 <ka6sox> PatrickC, where did you get *that* impression?
May 31 02:46:30 <PatrickC> well, I thought that Phoenix was the people who ported webOS to the Evo 3D earlier..
May 31 02:46:49 <ka6sox> Where does it say "Phoenix Devices, A divison of WebOS-Internals"?
May 31 02:47:14 <PatrickC> It didn't, but when a friend sent me the link while driving that is what i thought of
May 31 02:47:26 <PatrickC> then i read the backlog here, and the info that webOS Nation had.. lol
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