**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 13 02:59:58 2012
Jun 13 03:30:33 <b-man`> hello, I've been working on porting the Magenta project (Linux/Darwin hybrid kernel - http://crna.cc/) to the HP TouchPad, and I'm having trouble debugging output
Jun 13 03:30:41 <b-man`> Is there any way to gain access to the device's serial console?
Jun 13 06:02:26 <workboots> man what a ball busta
Jun 13 06:04:51 <workboots> id imagine you guys get asked the same questions all the time
Jun 13 06:05:06 <workboots> i think ive made some progress but it still aludes me
Jun 13 06:05:45 <workboots> the info has to be in some script that runs at burn
Jun 13 06:17:36 <ka6sox> on what?
Jun 13 07:15:28 <EricBlade> we're not mindreaders, people ..
Jun 13 13:08:40 <Lazar_Dobrescu> sharepoint
Jun 13 15:53:22 <DrOwl> Whoo Hoo, today i finally got a TP =)
Jun 13 15:53:44 <DrOwl> Not opened it yet, still at work =(
Jun 13 15:54:12 <DrOwl> why does time not fly when you want to have fun
Jun 13 15:54:45 <pc-world> DrOwl: congrats :)
Jun 13 15:54:49 <DrOwl> only got my R_Pi yesterday too but that will have to wait
Jun 13 15:55:41 <DrOwl> thanks pc-world =)
Jun 13 15:56:03 <DrOwl> i was hoping for a 64 but they are not around much
Jun 13 15:56:58 <pc-world> ah, you get it from Palm directly?
Jun 13 15:57:28 <pc-world> *got
Jun 13 15:59:19 <DrOwl> nope eBay!
Jun 13 15:59:42 <DrOwl> Humm  does novaterm for windows come in the sdk, i have been on Linux untill now!
Jun 13 15:59:57 <DrOwl> started new job which means new laptop!
Jun 13 16:00:05 <pc-world> yeah, I think it's included in the SDK
Jun 13 16:00:09 <DrOwl> cool
Jun 13 16:01:39 <pc-world> though you can download it directly from http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html too
Jun 13 16:02:25 <DrOwl> Op i forgot about that page =)
Jun 13 16:02:55 <DrOwl> also just saw that HP gave openwebos its own website now =)
Jun 13 16:03:07 <DrOwl> looks to be marketing it well =)
Jun 13 16:06:27 <DrOwl> people keep calling me crazzy for loving webos, i just grin
Jun 13 16:23:05 <summatusmentis> it's a great OS
Jun 13 16:23:12 <summatusmentis> the app support not so much
Jun 13 16:23:37 <summatusmentis> I really wish that company that was claiming android apps on webOS would follow-through
Jun 13 16:40:55 <rrix> summatusmentis: I think they want HP to buy them or license it, which, well... all i can say is "lol"
Jun 13 16:41:37 <pc-world> rrix: I assume the same
Jun 13 16:41:45 <pc-world> I don't think we will ever see this
Jun 13 17:04:00 * bigbluehat is charging his LifeDrive...just 'cause
Jun 13 17:11:46 <summatusmentis> rrix: who wants HP to buy what?
Jun 13 17:12:44 <rrix> summatusmentis: those android app dorks want HP to buy them/license it
Jun 13 17:12:50 <summatusmentis> oooh
Jun 13 17:12:53 <summatusmentis> that thing
Jun 13 17:12:54 <summatusmentis> right
Jun 13 17:13:03 <summatusmentis> yeah, I agree, definitely not happening
Jun 13 17:13:05 <rrix> bigbluehat: Oh man, rocking it old school
Jun 13 17:13:09 <rrix> I should get my T|X booting
Jun 13 17:14:08 <bigbluehat> rrix: :) yeah man
Jun 13 17:14:13 <bigbluehat> trying to figure out what to do with it :)
Jun 13 17:14:16 * bigbluehat has loads of dead tech
Jun 13 17:14:24 <bigbluehat> and wants to resurrect them all...somehow
Jun 13 17:14:30 <bigbluehat> and build an army of zombies...or something
Jun 13 17:14:44 <rrix> My Lifedrive doesn't even boot any more :\
Jun 13 17:14:55 <rrix> I wonder if hackndev linux would still boot on the T|X
Jun 13 17:15:05 <rrix> having a 300mhz arm cpu with some gpios would be nice
Jun 13 17:16:02 <Stskeeps> rrix: how'd the mer hacking go btw?
Jun 13 17:16:13 <summatusmentis> I have an old zaurus 5500 around here somewhere
Jun 13 17:16:59 <rrix> Stskeeps: I couldn't get ts_srv working and then I got a job that's currently 50 hr a week :(
Jun 13 17:17:20 <rrix> Stskeeps: I still have everything laying around and am going to try again soonish, this project ends at the end of the month
Jun 13 17:17:31 <Stskeeps> rrix: :nod:
Jun 13 17:17:52 <rrix> pesky bills and whatnot
Jun 13 17:18:04 <Stskeeps> yeah, jobs matter :P
Jun 13 17:18:36 <stbuehler> which partitions does meta-doctor clear? im zeroing media right now (i want to wipe it)
Jun 13 17:28:30 <bigbluehat> rrix: http://github.com/hackndev
Jun 13 17:29:02 * bigbluehat thinks Stskeeps needs to get Mer running on the LifeDrive ;)
Jun 13 17:29:10 <Stskeeps> i have no idea what a lifedrive is
Jun 13 17:29:11 <Stskeeps> :P
Jun 13 17:29:22 <bigbluehat> rrix: what was the last Palm OS available for LifeDrive (if you know)
Jun 13 17:29:25 <bigbluehat> 4? or 5?
Jun 13 17:29:27 <bigbluehat> :)
Jun 13 17:29:35 <bigbluehat> well you can't have mine, these things are scarce! ;)
Jun 13 17:29:36 <rrix> bigbluehat: 5.4.9
Jun 13 17:29:43 <rrix> Garnet
Jun 13 17:29:50 <bigbluehat> is that what it shipped with?
Jun 13 17:30:00 <rrix> Yup
Jun 13 17:30:02 <bigbluehat> pretty sure my N800 has a Garnet emulator
Jun 13 17:30:03 <bigbluehat> k
Jun 13 17:30:09 <bigbluehat> this could be interesting :)
Jun 13 17:30:58 * bigbluehat needs several lives to get to try/build All The Things™
Jun 13 17:31:02 <summatusmentis> I don't see why the N800 having an emulator matters
Jun 13 17:32:11 <bigbluehat> I have an N800 :)
Jun 13 17:32:20 <bigbluehat> mostly looking for commonalities
Jun 13 17:32:31 <bigbluehat> like, can I run Python on All Of Them and do HTTP
Jun 13 17:32:36 <bigbluehat> *anything* at this point
Jun 13 17:32:39 <bigbluehat> doesn't have to be that
Jun 13 17:33:59 <bigbluehat> I like sync (as a concept) and am sad about the real costs of "tech churn"
Jun 13 17:34:14 <bigbluehat> mostly looking for a way to have or build apps on all these defunct things that can play together
Jun 13 17:34:20 <bigbluehat> simple stuff, mostly
Jun 13 17:34:25 <bigbluehat> todo lists, notes, photos, etc
Jun 13 17:34:31 <bigbluehat> the stuff Apple's inventing for 10.8! :D
Jun 13 17:36:50 <summatusmentis> you should look into funambol
Jun 13 17:37:17 <summatusmentis> a lot of "old" devices have support (or can be made to)
Jun 13 17:37:35 <bigbluehat> ah, right! forgot about that
Jun 13 17:37:50 <bigbluehat> I used to dream about having this much tech...now it just molders under my desk...
Jun 13 17:37:56 <rrix> Good old funambol
Jun 13 17:38:18 <summatusmentis> I could never get it to work right with gmail
Jun 13 18:40:46 <bigbluehat> so is funambol available on the lifedrive? http://funambol.com/solutions/supported-devices-palm.php
Jun 13 18:40:49 <bigbluehat> doesn't seem to be ^^
Jun 13 18:56:57 <acidhax> yay my treo pro
Jun 13 22:11:05 <DrOwl> humm does the touchpad need some perticular version if novacom
Jun 13 22:16:01 <RagingMind> DrOwl, just a recent-ish version
Jun 13 22:19:43 <DrOwl> would 13 be a recnet version
Jun 13 22:45:57 <dwc-> try updating
Jun 13 22:51:20 <bakka> hi there
Jun 13 22:52:39 <bakka> can somebody help me?
Jun 13 22:53:16 <dwc-> with?
Jun 13 22:54:08 <bakka> hi dwc , i accidentally format my palm!
Jun 13 22:54:24 <bakka> and i search a way to unformat it
Jun 13 22:54:47 <dwc-> what do you mean "format"
Jun 13 22:55:18 <bakka> i found the repair utility on webnation but the link doesnt seems to work
Jun 13 22:55:52 <bakka> i mean i mistook it with my flash drive
Jun 13 22:56:05 <bakka> -_-'
Jun 13 22:57:04 <bakka> all the media are lost exept my contact!
Jun 13 23:00:00 <dwc-> please be more descriptive? I'm guessing you mean you connected it to something and then ran a format utility on a computer?
Jun 13 23:01:58 <bakka> yes i connected it to windows  and was creating a linux usb device at the same time
Jun 13 23:02:33 <bakka> *linux usb stick
Jun 13 23:03:10 <bakka>  and then i clicked on format but my palm was formated instead
Jun 13 23:04:06 <dwc-> so did it *just* get formatted, or was new data (an ISO) just written all over it?
Jun 13 23:04:24 <bakka> so now i lost my data exept my contacts and all the apps i had are gone but i can still tsee
Jun 13 23:04:43 <bakka> i can still see the shortcut
Jun 13 23:05:05 <bakka> i just formatted it
Jun 13 23:05:40 <bakka> so now i search for the webos repair tool on webosnation
Jun 13 23:05:51 <bakka> but the mirror link is dead
Jun 13 23:06:07 <dwc-> the apps can be reinstalled later, but what you need to do before you write any data to it is to find some sort of undelete/unformat tool for FAT32 filesystems
Jun 13 23:06:17 <dwc-> and recover it to your computer
Jun 13 23:06:36 <dwc-> unfortunately, I don't have any experience with doing that
Jun 13 23:06:55 <bakka> ohh that's unfortunate
Jun 13 23:07:51 <dwc-> there's nothing wrong with the device's base operating system, so any webos-specific repair utilities won't be of much help
Jun 13 23:08:14 <bakka> ok
Jun 13 23:08:45 <dwc-> also what you might want to keep in mind is which operating system and what options were used when formatting
Jun 13 23:09:25 <dwc-> if it's really important data, you might want to consider finding a business that specializes in data recovery
Jun 13 23:09:27 <bakka> but i think of doctored it later because now i cant connect my device wirelessly
Jun 13 23:09:55 <bakka> ok
Jun 13 23:10:27 <bakka> thank you
Jun 13 23:10:54 <dwc-> the more you write to it (doctoring, etc) the less likely you are to recover data from it
Jun 13 23:10:57 <dwc-> best of luck to you
Jun 13 23:12:43 <dwc-> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec might help
Jun 13 23:14:11 <bakka> yeah i already have it but i wanted to ask for the webos repair  utility first , thank you again dwc
Jun 13 23:20:11 <RagingMind> bakka, if you formatted it then most undelete utilities wont help much.  you'd have to get something that scans the raw file system and tries to reassemble the data
Jun 13 23:20:18 <RagingMind> you're not likely to recover much though
Jun 14 02:06:19 <ctbeiser> I know this isn't 100% the right place, but I sent an email to the "Phoenix Communications International" guys a couple days ago, and their reply makes it pretty clear that they're never going to get anywhere with anything.
Jun 14 02:09:25 <dtzWill> ctbeiser: ? :)
Jun 14 02:09:28 <ctbeiser> http://cl.ly/HNfI This is the email they sent. I told them I was an interaction designer, and apparently they want to task me on building new webOS hardware, rather than, I don't know, improving webOS's interaction design.
Jun 14 02:09:51 <ctbeiser> That they're even thinking about new webOS hardware is pretty outrageous.
Jun 14 02:10:44 <ctbeiser> The number of red flags there is just ridiculous.
Jun 14 02:15:43 <LarrySteeze> ctbeiser: you going to be on a while?
Jun 14 02:16:13 <ctbeiser> LarrySteeze: I don't see why not.
Jun 14 02:17:21 <LarrySteeze> ok. sounds good. I'll message you in a minute
Jun 14 02:17:43 <LarrySteeze> not about phoenix, I have nothing to do with that...I'm just interested in your intentions
Jun 14 02:21:29 <ctbeiser> Alright.
Jun 14 02:45:03 <JBSeo> hi
Jun 14 02:45:41 <wrea> ctbeiser, doesnt make much sense
Jun 14 02:47:40 <LarrySteeze> wrea: I suspect the people within phoenix don't consist mostly of people you'd find in this room
Jun 14 02:47:56 <wrea> Yeah
Jun 14 02:48:17 <LarrySteeze> I suspect they interpreted interaction design as device design...because you know....they share the word design.
Jun 14 02:49:16 <wrea> That was my thinking
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