**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 26 02:59:58 2012
Jun 26 04:14:29 <webosfan> the beta for 2.0.1 for sprint was available for devs a quite a while back, this is maybe a dumb question, but is there any way someone who's not a dev could get this?
Jun 26 04:15:21 <webosfan> i understand if it's not possible
Jun 26 13:24:59 <EricBlade> vinylfreak89: you need to be in recovery mode for mem boot to work
Jun 26 13:25:46 <vinylfreak89> i am
Jun 26 13:25:53 <vinylfreak89> im trying to reformat the whole thing
Jun 26 13:26:03 <vinylfreak89> i finally got it booting
Jun 26 13:26:05 <vinylfreak89> but it KPd
Jun 26 13:26:25 <vinylfreak89> is there any other way to use novaterm commands other than novaterm
Jun 26 13:26:30 <vinylfreak89> it will not run no matter what i do on windows 8
Jun 26 13:28:22 <vinylfreak89> nvm i got it
Jun 26 13:28:23 <vinylfreak89> :)
Jun 26 13:33:12 <Lazar_Dobrescu> change your \ for / ? :p
Jun 26 18:54:40 <swisstomcat> Open webOS June Update - Community Edition released! http://t.co/7aH0sNPd
Jun 26 18:55:25 <rrix> woo
Jun 26 18:55:36 * Stskeeps tries to comprehend what it means
Jun 26 18:57:42 <swisstomcat> it's basically code released to enable modifications of webOS for the touchpad
Jun 26 18:58:01 <bigbluehat> yeah. love it
Jun 26 18:58:03 <bigbluehat> thanks!
Jun 26 18:58:13 <Stskeeps> okay, the wiki page is frankly completely locked down though :P
Jun 26 18:58:33 <swisstomcat> yeah, i assume it will be updated as well now
Jun 26 18:59:56 * rrix gently pokes ka6sox 
Jun 26 19:00:22 <scoutcamper> wiki's are all updated :)
Jun 26 19:00:45 <Stskeeps> might be updated, but is responding access denied in many areas :P
Jun 26 19:00:50 <rrix> hehe
Jun 26 19:00:56 <Stskeeps> such as WOCE_build_instructions
Jun 26 19:02:37 <rrix> why doesn't the openwebosblog post link to http://opensource.palm.com/WOCE/index.html?
Jun 26 19:12:50 <acidhax> damn, no access ;)
Jun 26 19:13:09 <acidhax> too bad I have no touchpad
Jun 26 19:13:10 <Stskeeps> rrix: good question
Jun 26 20:03:48 <dwc-> hm, just luna?
Jun 26 20:03:51 <dwc-> surprised it's only 15mb
Jun 26 20:05:34 <dwc-> rrix: assuming the blog hasn't been updated, it -does- link to it... "The source code can be found here."
Jun 26 20:06:25 <rrix> must have been updated >_>
Jun 26 20:07:08 <ka6sox> ya, they fixed it
Jun 26 20:09:57 <dwc-> so, fearless leader, tell us more about what we can do with this
Jun 26 20:10:15 <dwc-> is luna really all we need?
Jun 26 20:10:40 <ka6sox> dwc-, ?
Jun 26 20:10:44 <ka6sox> who are you talking about?
Jun 26 20:10:48 <acidhax> how to build for x86 to put on microsoft surface tablet
Jun 26 20:11:02 <acidhax> :P
Jun 26 20:11:17 <acidhax> -or- run webos in a VM in a metro app
Jun 26 20:11:20 <acidhax> lol
Jun 26 20:11:20 <ka6sox> off topic
Jun 26 20:11:28 <dwc-> webos-WOCE is just luna-sysmgr?
Jun 26 20:12:07 <ka6sox> thats what was released today
Jun 26 20:12:29 <dwc-> oh, so rest is still due by sept
Jun 26 20:13:14 <dwc-> maybe I'm confused because I didn't read carefully enough
Jun 26 20:18:01 <dwc-> yea, ok, this is luna, for touchpad, possibly(?) for older releases as well?
Jun 26 20:18:15 * dwc- spots a luna-sysmgr/conf/luna-* for some hardware he doesn't recognize the codenames of
Jun 26 20:18:45 <bigbluehat> ka6sox: will there be a git repo for this?
Jun 26 20:18:55 <bigbluehat> juggling .tgz won't scale so good ;)
Jun 26 20:19:55 <wrea> github.com/woce
Jun 26 20:19:57 <dwc-> hmm, chile, windsornot, 800x480
Jun 26 20:20:04 <bigbluehat> heh...silly me
Jun 26 20:20:10 <bigbluehat> tnx wrea
Jun 26 20:20:52 <bigbluehat> wrea: there's more in these, I'd think: http://opensource.palm.com/WOCE/index.html
Jun 26 20:20:53 <RagingMind> windsornot looks like it coulda been a keyboardless phone?
Jun 26 20:20:58 <bigbluehat> maybe they're on their way up
Jun 26 20:21:42 <wrea> seems like Tom is having issues with github atm
Jun 26 20:22:00 <dwc-> ragingmind: chile as well?
Jun 26 20:22:17 <dwc-> chile also appears to have an atheros wifi chipset
Jun 26 20:22:59 <RagingMind> actually it doesn't launch phone app...
Jun 26 20:23:33 <dwc-> Push from tarball [halfhalo]
Jun 26 20:26:14 <RagingMind> chile looks like a keyboardless phone, mantaray is what people called the supposed photo of a prototype of such a phone
Jun 26 20:26:28 <dwc-> mantaray is the pre3
Jun 26 20:26:45 <RagingMind> oh, hmm
Jun 26 20:27:03 <dwc-> topaz I think is the TP go
Jun 26 20:27:39 <ka6sox> topaz is the Touchpad
Jun 26 20:27:42 <RagingMind> I thought topaz was the regular tp?
Jun 26 20:28:11 <dwc-> LunaSysMgr is missing the Makefile.Ubuntu referenced in its build
Jun 26 20:29:00 <RagingMind> and windsornot does have the phone app.  I'm trying to read too much at once.  oops
Jun 26 20:29:09 <wrea> Topaz regular tp, opal was the Go
Jun 26 20:29:15 <dwc-> oh, nevermind... need to run qmake
Jun 26 20:45:26 <halfhalo> what about the githubs?
Jun 26 20:49:07 <cvillers> i thought tenderloin was the touchpad?
Jun 26 20:49:21 <cvillers> at least that's what the android guys call it
Jun 26 20:58:23 <EricBlade> i hope we get more than info about hardware we'll never see from this ;) all that stuff was in the other luna that was released too
Jun 26 21:24:48 <dwc-> other luna?
Jun 26 21:25:29 <dwc-> oh
Jun 26 21:45:11 <ka6sox> other luna?
Jun 26 22:46:31 <bhuey> hey ka6sox
Jun 26 22:46:37 <ka6sox> heya
Jun 26 22:47:47 <bhuey> just saw that article
Jun 26 22:48:00 <ka6sox> article?
Jun 26 22:48:08 <bhuey> precentral
Jun 26 22:48:13 <bhuey> mentioned you specifically
Jun 26 22:48:22 <ka6sox> I didn't duck.
Jun 27 00:03:59 <egaudet> what's new
Jun 27 00:06:09 <egaudet> can we start porting to new phones yet?
Jun 27 01:15:41 <vinylfreak89> how do you completely erase and reflash the touchpad
Jun 27 01:16:44 <ka6sox> for what reason?
Jun 27 01:16:47 <ka6sox> security?
Jun 27 01:16:50 <vinylfreak89> no
Jun 27 01:17:03 <vinylfreak89> i'm running a custom kernel that has always worked
Jun 27 01:17:07 <vinylfreak89> and now all of a sudden it is KPing
Jun 27 01:17:20 <vinylfreak89> nothing else has changed
Jun 27 01:17:30 <vinylfreak89> so I want to wipe and repartition the whole LVM
Jun 27 01:19:20 <vinylfreak89> is there a version of this for the 16 GB version
Jun 27 01:19:21 <vinylfreak89> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover
Jun 27 01:19:28 <vinylfreak89> at the very bottom of the page
Jun 27 01:19:42 <vinylfreak89> and/or is there any other more complete wipe
Jun 27 01:23:02 <ka6sox> if its a kernel..then you can use the doctor...
Jun 27 01:23:06 <ka6sox> that will fix it for sure
Jun 27 01:23:59 <vinylfreak89> tried it
Jun 27 01:24:03 <vinylfreak89> it still KPs
Jun 27 01:24:10 <vinylfreak89> let me rephrase
Jun 27 01:24:13 <vinylfreak89> its a custom boot image
Jun 27 01:24:18 <vinylfreak89> its not a kernel that runs webos
Jun 27 01:44:32 <vinylfreak89> great
Jun 27 01:44:37 <vinylfreak89> so i followed those instructions
Jun 27 01:44:44 <vinylfreak89> changing the extents to match mine
Jun 27 01:44:47 <vinylfreak89> now doctor wont run
Jun 27 01:45:56 <ka6sox> if it has to do with anything Android we can't help you.
Jun 27 01:47:25 <vinylfreak89> now it doesn't
Jun 27 01:47:36 <vinylfreak89> now it has to just do with getting the thing booting in to web os
Jun 27 01:48:42 <vinylfreak89> http://pastebin.com/9ize20Cg
Jun 27 01:50:50 <vinylfreak89> here is what webos doctor is outputting
Jun 27 01:50:50 <vinylfreak89> http://pastebin.com/sBg2UAMF
Jun 27 01:51:17 <Robius> what causes the google sync notification to never finish. constantly syncs
Jun 27 01:51:45 <vinylfreak89> ka6sox u have any ideas?
Jun 27 01:51:56 <ka6sox> dinner..later (or my wife will kill me)
Jun 27 01:52:10 <vinylfreak89> ok
Jun 27 02:02:07 <vinylfreak89> fixed
Jun 27 02:43:25 <Skull> #channels
Jun 27 02:43:43 <Skull> exit
Jun 27 02:43:46 <Skull> disconnect
Jun 27 02:43:53 <Skull> logout
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