**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 05 02:59:59 2012 Aug 05 03:32:46 hi all. i need help setting up widk on linux mint 12. i'm using the instructions on http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK. i'm at the part where you set up scratchbox. i ran make setup but the file won't download the doctors. Aug 05 03:34:01 i get Resolving palm.cdnetworks.net... failed: Name or service not known. Aug 05 03:35:47 i understand that the website for the doctors has change. will someone walk me through modifying the makefile to point to the new website for the doctors Aug 05 03:36:22 ...or if anyone has a modified makefile they could send me i would greatly appreciate it Aug 05 04:11:21 ok, i figured out how to get the doctors and modified the script. everything installed fine but when I try to build doom as a test i get this: grep: /srv/preware/cross-compile/rootfs/armv7/usr/lib/ipkg/info/glib-2.0.list: No such file or directory Aug 05 04:11:56 ../../../support/stage-rootfs.mk:5: *** "No libraries found in /srv/preware/cross-compile/rootfs/armv7/usr/lib/ipkg/info/glib-2.0.list". Stop. Aug 05 04:40:03 Is anyone here? Aug 05 04:40:11 GodGinrai: kind of Aug 05 04:40:40 k4ever: hmm interesting, I don't have any mint boxes to try it out on but it's based on ubuntu so should be close to the official thing Aug 05 04:40:44 I'm new to the community, just got a Pre 3 on friday :D Aug 05 04:41:09 GodGinrai: cool! welcome :) Aug 05 04:42:45 destinal: it's not the mint box that is the problem. hp has changed the download sites to just about everything and the wiki/packages/files have not been up to reflect the new download sites. Aug 05 04:42:56 k4ever: ahhh Aug 05 04:43:46 That's strange :\ Aug 05 04:43:54 and ty, destinal Aug 05 04:44:08 k4ever: so, one thing you could do is figure out the proper links and update things / submit patches etc Aug 05 04:44:48 the community is all of us Aug 05 04:47:27 destinal: i'm trying to update the links, but i'm hopelessly lost. i can't figure out how many makefiles are effected. Aug 05 04:47:49 k4ever: the webos-ports build process might have examples of fixed makefiles since it has to retrieve jars and so on Aug 05 04:48:03 (webos-ports is to build the new open source webos stuff) Aug 05 04:49:17 Sad to hear about the Open WebOS release not targeting Pre3 and touchpad as well :( Hopefully we'll be able to make the necessary changes once the code is released to get it to work w/ the old binaries Aug 05 04:50:05 GodGinrai: yeah it seems like it should be possible to get it working one way or the other (though it may require some closed source bits, perhaps the 2.x doctors etc) Aug 05 04:50:17 as you say Aug 05 04:51:36 Yea, I've seen similar methods employed to work with closed-source drivers before, so I don't expect that it won't happen. The real question is how soon Aug 05 04:52:48 btw, I'm trying to use the Synergy Messaging plugins on my phone, and am kind of baffled by it. Do you guys use it? Aug 05 04:55:05 my guess is that having the ability to build a complete system will be necessary, as well as probably either building some Nyx modules, or lifting the code out of the CE system manager Aug 05 04:56:28 in fact, as I'm thinking about it more and more, and that we've already had a limited amount of success making the CE system manager operate on webOS 2.. we can probably take it's hardware stuff and apply it. at least to get the touchpad working. Aug 05 04:57:35 ^ is that in reference to getting Open WebOS working w/ the Legacy devices? Aug 05 05:02:22 yes Aug 05 05:03:05 k, just making sure. Wasn't sure if you were talking about updating the links Aug 05 05:03:24 I thought you werre at first and was like: "That's pretty intense just to update links" Aug 05 05:03:35 *were Aug 05 05:06:18 EricBlade1: right, the real question is whether the community will want to maintain WOCE in parallel with OWO maybe like various different versions of linux were maintained at once Aug 05 05:06:48 OWO itself could be backported too of course Aug 05 05:06:54 i guess that depends on how successful we are (if) at getting the whole thing running on it Aug 05 05:07:27 I think they will, because OWO specifically is the one that is getting the support to be ported to other devices, so will be the one which will *supposedly* get the most changes Aug 05 05:07:58 from the guy doing documentation's description, though, it sounds like, especially after the more recent WON articles, we should be able to at least get it running on touchpad using a combination of CE and owo Aug 05 05:08:32 note my judicious use of "if" and "sounds like" in case i'm totally wrong. Aug 05 05:09:20 recent WON articles? I didn't notice any that pertained to this. I'll need to check the front page Aug 05 05:10:24 GodGinrai: the recent ones have been pretty negative towards HP for not officially supporting any HP or Palm hardware in open webos Aug 05 05:11:21 That's fine, I can make my own judgement. :P I understand the negativity, but I also understand that there are obviously reasons for what they are doing Aug 05 05:11:23 my feeling is the community will still be able to do it but newer hardware shipping with new kernels and open source friendly drivers will be an easier target so I understand why they decided to go that way Aug 05 05:11:30 whether they are good reasons remains to be seen Aug 05 05:11:48 has anyone had any success building widk recently? Aug 05 05:12:03 widk? Aug 05 05:12:13 ~widk Aug 05 05:12:15 [widk] http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK Aug 05 05:12:29 ah Aug 05 05:12:38 beat me to it. Aug 05 05:12:40 also, neat bot Aug 05 05:12:46 ~help Aug 05 05:12:49 aw Aug 05 05:12:54 infobot: help Aug 05 05:12:57 it is not building right for me. Aug 05 05:13:02 infobot: help Aug 05 05:13:06 ah, thanks Aug 05 05:13:40 GodGinrai: /msg infobot help works Aug 05 05:13:46 the page is outdated. hp has move some of the files that the scripts/makefiles point to Aug 05 05:14:03 i can't get doom to build Aug 05 05:14:13 the first one worked for me. Thanks, tho Aug 05 05:14:22 join #webos-ports Aug 05 05:18:44 what Aug 05 05:18:57 widk isn't a -ports project Aug 05 05:19:47 Patrick|sleepy_A. Don't be dumb. WIDK is _webos-internals_ devkit. not webos ports devkit. Aug 05 05:24:53 i just need help getting it to work Aug 05 05:28:39 ~LSM Aug 05 05:28:41 from memory, lsm is linux software map Linux Security Module (http://lsm.immunix.org/) Aug 05 05:31:55 wow, guess i'm going to install the windows pdk and build my stuff there. wasted 4 hours trying to get pdk working on linux. not worth it Aug 05 05:33:03 infobot: you're not very up to date, buddy Aug 05 05:33:04 no *you're* not very up to date, buddy Aug 05 05:33:07 :| Aug 05 05:34:16 k4ever: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/pdk/building-for-the-device.html Aug 05 05:34:34 thank you x10 Aug 05 06:55:54 for all the fuss that was made about 11 months ago on the threads about the mod kernels that weren't enabling the second core on the touchpad properly .. considering that my kernel log spam includes a whole lot of junk about not being able to start the second core, i gotta believe there was something to that Aug 05 06:56:38 of course, right as i say that, it finally brings the second core online lol Aug 05 07:50:41 hi all. Aug 05 07:52:08 got the webos sdk and pdk up and running on windows 7. how do i compile an sdl app from source using the pdk in windows? i can't seem to find any instructions except how to build the simple app. Aug 05 07:54:11 if someone would point me to some step by step instructions i would greatly appreciate it. i have the source code for sdldoom that i want to try and build as a test **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 06 02:59:57 2012