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Sep 10 08:29:12 <MahRain> one question, what is the Isis browser, how does this relate to qtwebkit and is this going to improve the webOS browsing experience?
Sep 10 13:30:53 <tkim> hello?
Sep 10 13:30:56 <pc-world> tkim: hi
Sep 10 13:31:36 <tkim> I wAnt to install WOCE on my touchpad
Sep 10 13:32:03 <pc-world> tkim: http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/317427-lunace-4-x.html
Sep 10 13:37:17 <tkim> hmm what is the beta feed url for lunace
Sep 10 13:38:39 <pc-world> tkim: did you enable the beta feeds as described on http://testing.preware.org/ ?
Sep 10 13:39:16 <tkim> Yes
Sep 10 13:40:13 <pc-world> "You need the beta-woce feed installed to find LunaCE"
Sep 10 13:40:32 <tkim> Although I enabled beta feeds a while ago
Sep 10 13:40:41 <pc-world> did you upgrade to the latest Preware version?
Sep 10 13:40:57 <pc-world> if so, then open "Manage Feeds" and enable "beta-woce"
Sep 10 13:41:02 <tkim> Probably not
Sep 10 13:41:25 <pc-world> "You'll also need to be running Preware 1.9.12 and Tweaks 3."
Sep 10 13:41:40 <tkim> k installing now, thanks a bunch
Sep 10 13:45:53 <tkim> So I need to run a webOS doctor before installing? I saw that post said something about removing the PIN but I'm not sure what that is
Sep 10 13:49:23 <pc-world> tkim: you don't need to...
Sep 10 13:49:34 <pc-world> if you've PIN-locked your device you need to remove your PIN before
Sep 10 13:50:42 <DrOwl> I had to restart luna after removing my PIN too
Sep 10 13:52:15 <tkim> Ah nvm guess just complaining because unceasing in factory condition so I just first installed palmluna
Sep 10 13:52:56 <DrOwl> tkim: yes some patches need uninstalling first
Sep 10 13:58:11 <pc-world> DrOwl: Luna restart after removing PIN shouldn't be necessary
Sep 10 13:58:36 <pc-world> and mainly only patches that modify LunaSysMgr need to be installed, not regular Preware patches
Sep 10 14:17:54 <DrOwl> pc-world: after removing my PIN the preware install kept telling me i needed to remove the pin
Sep 10 14:18:18 <DrOwl> i dont remember what patches i had installed but there was someing it didnt like
Sep 10 18:54:48 <pc-world> is it just me, or is http://ipkg.preware.org/ down?
Sep 10 18:55:05 <pc-world> (it can't find the DNS entry)
Sep 10 18:56:00 <pc-world> can't access preware.org too...
Sep 10 18:56:45 <scoutcamper> servers arent down, i just checked
Sep 10 18:56:56 <scoutcamper> rwhitby, ka6sox-away, dns issue?
Sep 10 18:57:44 <pc-world> hmm, strange... I'll try to restart our router
Sep 10 18:57:52 <summatusmentis> looks like it was registered through GoDaddy, and GoDaddy is apparently down right now
Sep 10 18:58:16 <scoutcamper> yes, my other godaddy websites that i pay for are down
Sep 10 18:59:44 <pc-world> well, okay... http://twitter.com/GoDaddy "Status Alert: Hey, all. We're aware of the trouble people are having with our site. We're working on it."
Sep 10 19:00:05 <pc-world> 25min ago and *not* resolved... wtf
Sep 10 19:01:39 <GodGinrai> that's because Godaddy sucks XD
Sep 10 19:06:07 <pc-world> Go Daddy / wikipedia: "In 2010, it reached more than 45 million domain names under management"
Sep 10 19:06:07 <pc-world> so, since 30min 40 *million* websites are down?!
Sep 10 19:06:19 <pc-world> *45
Sep 10 19:08:37 <pc-world> works for me now...
Sep 10 22:35:16 <DrOwl> oh dear, dns with godaddy shudder... may I sugest finding an alternative provider. that's not based on todays joy ether
Sep 10 22:37:10 * DrOwl has belt with many a dns provider and would say godaddy was the second worst
Sep 10 22:37:20 <DrOwl> ^delt
Sep 10 22:38:41 <rwhitby> who's the best?
Sep 10 22:41:37 <DrOwl> humm best is subjective, really depends on what you want and how may domains you have
Sep 10 22:42:24 <DrOwl> I'm guessing they were providing the dns servers and registra
Sep 10 22:44:16 <DrOwl> I have my personal names with internet.bs
Sep 10 22:46:14 <DrOwl> for work with uk domains we went directly to nomnet for registra
Sep 10 22:48:27 <DrOwl> networksolutions are good for .com's etc
Sep 10 22:49:09 <DrOwl> but I do my own dns servers and at $work we did our own too
Sep 10 22:49:17 <scoutcamper> i use dreamhost and godaddy for my personal domains, they are about equal
Sep 10 22:50:27 <DrOwl> bulkregister are also very good we used them a lot at $work
Sep 10 22:51:58 <DrOwl> dns server are very easy to set up and manage if you have servers already
Sep 11 00:55:16 <andrew__> Does anyone know if its possible to metadoctor a sprint franken pre2 to an at&t pre2 (by switching out the comm board with a att pre+)?
Sep 11 00:55:24 <andrew__> i went ahead and swapped the boards but it says that the doctor I built following the webosinternals guide isn't compatible with the phone connected
Sep 11 00:55:41 <ShawnSnyder> guys what do i do this step with? "Finally, we need to edit the file. Use vi to open /usr/palm/applications/com.handson.app.nfl/appinfo.json"
Sep 11 00:56:31 <andrew__> shawn you
Sep 11 00:56:49 <ShawnSnyder> ?
Sep 11 00:56:50 <andrew__> might want to refrence what you are trying to do as far as "step # what in what process"
Sep 11 00:57:04 <ShawnSnyder> http://www.hadak.org/2009/07/29/remove-the-nfl-app-from-the-pre/#more-135
Sep 11 00:57:12 <ShawnSnyder> step 4
Sep 11 00:59:27 <andrew__> do you have vi installed?
Sep 11 00:59:38 <HaDAk> you rang?
Sep 11 00:59:49 <ShawnSnyder> what vi?
Sep 11 00:59:49 <ShawnSnyder> whats*
Sep 11 00:59:55 <HaDAk> a text editor
Sep 11 01:00:14 <ShawnSnyder> from? web or phone catalog?
Sep 11 01:00:33 <andrew__> for your computer
Sep 11 01:00:42 <HaDAk> it's installed on your phone. use the cli.
Sep 11 01:01:16 <ShawnSnyder> the wut. god i feel so stupid
Sep 11 01:02:01 <HaDAk> command line interface.
Sep 11 01:02:12 <ShawnSnyder> just type vi?
Sep 11 01:02:21 <HaDAk> just type vi and the file you want to open
Sep 11 01:02:23 <HaDAk> vi thefile
Sep 11 01:02:55 <ShawnSnyder> inplace of the file i put the directory inside the palm?
Sep 11 01:03:29 <ShawnSnyder> thefile*
Sep 11 01:04:03 <HaDAk> try again
Sep 11 01:04:16 <HaDAk> also, my article is out of date, depending on what device you're working on.
Sep 11 01:04:25 <ShawnSnyder> Palm Pixi Plus
Sep 11 01:04:28 <HaDAk> if it's the touchpad, you'll need to look in /media/cryptofs
Sep 11 01:04:33 <HaDAk> i don't know about a pixi. i don't own one.
Sep 11 01:05:00 <andrew__> wouldn't it just be easier to use novaterm to execute commands on the device?
Sep 11 01:05:32 <HaDAk> that's the way i set it up
Sep 11 01:06:04 <andrew__> shawn i would recommend reading this: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_Using_Novaterm
Sep 11 01:07:41 <andrew__> I'm guessing that nobody has any suggestions for my metadoctor issue?
Sep 11 01:08:44 <ajguns> ok...
Sep 11 01:11:25 <ShawnSnyder> GOT IT. thanks guys! very helpful
Sep 11 01:13:11 <ShawnSnyder> is there a file manager to view files as root on my PC from within the phone. like view root pre files on my PC
Sep 11 01:17:19 <HaDAk> no
Sep 11 01:17:40 <HaDAk> although, technically you could install an ssh server and use winscp
Sep 11 01:25:37 <ShawnSnyder> http://i.imgur.com/FIJc4.png it wont let me edit it now. cant type
Sep 11 01:28:10 <ShawnSnyder> i hit i and it wont go down stays at the top
Sep 11 01:28:40 <andrew__> in vi you need to hit : to enter edit mode
Sep 11 01:28:55 <ShawnSnyder> :i?
Sep 11 01:29:19 <andrew__> http://www.cs.rit.edu/~cslab/vi.html
Sep 11 01:29:23 <andrew__> just :
Sep 11 02:27:39 <rwhitby> andrew__: yes, it is possible to metadoctor a sprint franken pre2 to an at&t pre2 (by switching out the comm board with a att pre+)
Sep 11 02:28:12 <rwhitby> but you will need to do some manual token manipulations to do so - I don't think there is a prewritten script for that scenario.
Sep 11 02:35:42 <andrew__> update:
Sep 11 02:36:07 <andrew__> i couldn't get it to run so I manually hard reset by doing power sym and orange
Sep 11 02:36:27 <andrew__> and the AT&T sim card worked without metadoctoring
Sep 11 02:37:09 <andrew__> it still is running the previous sprint franken pre2 metadoctor according to version number and is updating to 2.24 now
Sep 11 02:37:23 <andrew__> 3G and Phone/SMS are working
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