**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 11 02:59:58 2012 Sep 11 15:32:03 i notice that all webos devices i have consume *a lot* of energy when they're not certain which network they should connect to for data transfer. being 2G, 3G or wifi. if anyone wants to make a cool difference, it would be nice if the device wouldn't constantly try to discover what networks are out there, but only periodically do it (and perhaps when the device is turned on, dunno) Sep 11 15:42:34 madnificent, that isn't a webOS characteristic..its the same for ALL devices it seems. Sep 11 16:03:26 ka6sox: we should be able to change it, i believe. and i have the feeling that Android devices are less susceptible to the problem Sep 11 16:03:45 the word feeling is important in that sentence though Sep 11 16:04:50 it seems, at least in the GSM region, that places where the phone needs to switch between 2G and 3G consume a lot of power, same goes for wifi on/off. whilst it's quite ok if you only enable 2G and turn off wifi Sep 11 16:05:26 how would you propose we do this? Sep 11 16:06:31 you can disable wifi and disable 3g. so i'd say that if it is connected to either system, all others are turned off for a (possibly configurable) amount of time (defaulting to a minute, or possibly a tad more) Sep 11 16:18:57 for existing webOS (3.0.5) we have no sources for this... Sep 11 16:19:19 mode-switcher can access te settings Sep 11 16:19:30 I've not seen any indication of how we are going to support this at all (phone, wifi, bt control) Sep 11 16:19:34 so we should be able to access it, no? though that's not 3.0.5 Sep 11 16:19:52 for OW Sep 11 16:20:56 madnificent, a writeup on how to do this with modeswitcher or even a mod to modeswitcher would probably be accepted too :D Sep 11 16:21:00 i don't know what we can access there, i have no clue how close we are to running that on an actual phone which can call and all that, so i also don't have a clue how useful it'd be Sep 11 16:22:05 i don't think it's 'right' to solve it with mode-switcher. and i think mode-switcher lacks the primitive to try something every once in a while (which should be the simple part) Sep 11 16:22:53 with OW its a clean slate...you can write an app that would implement this correctly :D Sep 11 16:23:29 ka6sox: i take my words back, mode-switcher can discover that a wifi network was found, not 2G/3G (but i'm certain we can check which mode we're using as it's shown in the upper-right corner) Sep 11 16:24:09 * madnificent doesn't work on systems he can't access (if/when OW runs on something i own, chances are i'll look into it further) Sep 11 16:24:14 my question wasn't geared towards OW Sep 11 16:24:33 ok Sep 11 16:25:01 (not trying to be a bitch about it, even though it sounds a tad harsh) Sep 11 16:27:43 I wish you luck on getting this solved... Sep 11 16:30:01 hi Sep 11 16:30:05 Can anyone help me to pass an argument to a button from another scene? Sep 11 16:30:33 newbie level O_o Sep 11 16:31:09 ares Sep 11 16:31:36 ka6sox: o wait, no. you got me wrong. it was something i considered to be an interesting feature to have. something that, when someone came along and saw the opportunity because they were working on the same code-base), could be interested in taking up. :) Sep 11 16:31:47 ka6sox: it's not something that's ruining my personal life or anything :) Sep 11 16:32:25 bert0x: i think #webos may be better suited to answer it. i don't really know anything about ares. Sep 11 16:32:27 I see...so this is "something someone could fix...if they happen to want to"? Sep 11 16:32:35 ka6sox: check! Sep 11 16:32:46 thk! Sep 11 16:33:04 ka6sox: and i'm interested in helping out with minor things in case that would happen, obviously. Sep 11 16:33:25 (i would try harder if i'd have the time, but i know that will not happen) Sep 11 16:33:38 ok Sep 11 19:31:08 can someone tell me why this didnt work? http://i.imgur.com/d1kCb.png Sep 11 19:47:45 Greetings Sep 11 19:48:30 Does anyone know how to bulk remove calendar entries in the 'undefined' state in a webOS 2.2.4 phone? I can use Impostah to remove them them 1 by 1. There's over 3,000 items I want to remove. http://pastebin.com/QhxdHzL5 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 12 02:59:58 2012