**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 24 02:59:59 2012 Sep 24 16:55:22 hiyaz Sep 24 18:16:37 sup ajay Sep 24 18:33:13 dwc-: still rockin the Pre3 on Tmo? Sep 24 18:34:15 That it's going to get hspa/fauxG is some pretty exciting news I'm assuming you and DKirker would be excited about! Sep 24 18:37:54 sanaking: Yeah! Well... My Pre3 is on an AT&T number... The GNex is on T-Mo. Sadly... T-Mo has crappy coverage in some areas.... Sep 24 18:39:43 I'm still rocking the pre2, actually :-p Sep 24 18:40:38 and yea, it'll be great if it gets H+ and they still leave me on the $4/mo unlimited data plan I have now =] Sep 24 18:41:21 dkirker: some areas, like your house? :) Sep 24 18:41:38 yeah.. :/ Sep 24 18:41:41 dwc-: oh! Why pre2 over pre3? (from my use, it seems the pre2 performs better, but not sure if that's just me) Sep 24 18:41:52 umm... inertia Sep 24 18:41:53 And the Caltrain route between Mountain View and Palo Alto.... Sep 24 18:42:08 dkirker: Doesn't TMo have wifi stations or something like that? Sep 24 18:42:12 (for your house) Sep 24 18:42:15 nope Sep 24 18:42:20 att's coverage def handles high-speed tower changes on caltrain better than tmo's Sep 24 18:42:29 at least between mountain view and san jose Sep 24 18:42:29 oh, specific tmobile phones have wifi capability, I think it was Sep 24 18:42:31 those would be a femtocell. They never came out with one. Sep 24 18:43:06 Their solution was Wifi calling, but that requires kernel changes and proprietary software on their handsets... Sep 24 18:43:19 ajay: I do actually prefer the size of the pre2, but I've been meaning to try the pre3 out more, it is definitely faster and better hardware, though the TMC plagues me a bit on the pre2, so I am a bit worried about the pre3 Sep 24 18:43:53 dkirker: are you opposed to having proprietary software? (Is that why you have a Nexus?) Sep 24 18:44:25 dwc-: hm, I forgot about TMC as I've not had any in awhile (I had a real bad bout for awhile). Tho recently I've been experiencing random reboots on both my phones :) Sep 24 18:44:37 isn't some of the goog android stuff "proprietary" anyways Sep 24 18:45:14 sanaking: It isn't that I oppose it. It is just that you can only use Wifi calling on devices that T-Mobile has released it for. Sep 24 18:45:26 My GNex is an unlocked non-Tmo phone, so no wifi calling. Sep 24 18:45:42 not sure if someone has hacked binaries onto it for ICS/JB Sep 24 18:46:30 hm, looks like the S3 has wifi calling, which is supposed to be a hot device. Sep 24 18:47:09 dkirker: hm, it seems like they'd want to do everything they can to get it on ALL handsets. But, I should try to remember to never confuse logic with how cell carriers operate (at least, not in the US :) Sep 24 18:47:21 dkirker: does your AT&T phone get better coverage at home/caltrain route? Sep 24 18:48:37 oh i never know what to do with netsplits.. am i here? I don't know! Sep 24 18:49:15 FWIW: http://airportal.de/ -- TMo 1900MHz spottings Sep 24 18:50:20 sanaking: Yes, AT&T has better coverage. Re: Well, the logic isn't quite proper. While T-Mo does try to support non-T-Mo phones (a la the iPhone), they can't up and add all of their features to all of the phones, ever. Sep 24 18:52:39 dkirker: i wasn't sure if all of their (own) phones had it even (since, looking at their page it seems a relatively short list) Sep 24 18:53:15 waaa Sep 24 18:54:43 dkirker: thanks for that link, holy crap Sep 24 18:55:22 * dwc- goes to the phone app and turns 3g on Sep 24 18:56:46 11:54 < dwc-> dkirker: thanks for that link, holy crap Sep 24 18:56:46 11:55 * dwc- goes to the phone app and turns 3g on Sep 24 18:57:03 what the hell is happening to my znc?... Sep 24 18:57:13 nothing. freenode is shitting a brick Sep 24 18:57:26 dwc-: yeah! There is a tower a few blocks from my apartment in Sunnyvale, and one that appears to cover my office in SF... Sep 24 18:59:21 have you picked up its coverage? Sep 24 19:00:38 on the off-chance I do find a spot, I suppose then I'll have to figure out how to pick up the requested codes in order to submit to the database Sep 24 19:01:39 none near where I live, but one on my way to work, and the downtown sunnyvale one might be worth a trip for lunch to see Sep 24 19:19:52 people keep messaging me on ebay about helping them with their gsm phones that are reported lost or stolen, i can't help them, but i'm curious -- can those phones be used abroad? Sep 24 19:27:35 It's too bad the VziPhone 5 comes GSM unlocked, but their Pre3 doesn't.. Sep 24 20:02:51 dwc-: I haven't tried any of them, yet. Sep 24 20:03:24 sanaking: I am wondering if that was maybe an Apple policy? It seems rather recent, no? Sep 24 20:03:44 I can't think of any US carrier that was ever "ok" with selling a phone unlocked out the door. Sep 24 20:13:41 dkirker: Personally, I don't think the vendors care AT ALL if the phones are locked or unlocked, it's the carriers that care Sep 24 20:20:39 sanaking: Yeah. Which is the reason I am likely to think that it was an Apple thing. Or Verizon is trying to win over AT&T customers, or something... Sep 24 20:24:54 You think Apple stuck it to Verizon? I did read that the sprint iphone came unlocked, but then released a sw update to relock it, so.. possible. Even if it was apple's doing*, i wonder why verizon has said it won't relock Sep 24 20:25:12 * whoever's "fault" it was, gutsy/good on them Sep 24 20:37:10 that little trackpad thingy in LunaCE is cute, btw! Sep 24 21:15:31 dkirker: was at an edge of the 3g spot on el camino, nothing showed up for me Sep 24 21:24:08 I am trying to get my iPhone 3GS to update to iOS 6... I am going to try my T-Mo SIM in my Pre3. Sep 24 22:16:27 dwc-: interesting (re LTE) Sep 24 22:33:06 It was funny how there was that computer at palm with the excel spreadsheet of Pre3/Black Veer unlock codes, so.. low-tech (amongst other complaints!) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 25 02:59:58 2012