**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 13 03:00:02 2012 Oct 13 18:47:30 dwc-: doesn't help that the new webOS architect doesn't have a clue about the system he has inherited. Oct 13 18:54:35 gandhijee_, I know that not to be true. Oct 13 19:10:30 ka6sox: are you Steve Winston? Oct 13 19:12:49 no, I am not. Oct 13 19:17:11 have you interacted with steve or any of his team? Oct 13 19:17:22 extensively Oct 13 19:17:55 i had questions from my engineers to them, we got back conflicting answers from them over a 2 week time span Oct 13 19:18:47 about different parts of the system Oct 13 19:19:51 ie didn't know the touchpad is self supported loading of node modules Oct 13 19:24:41 gandhijee_, is that a reason to trash him in public in this forum? Oct 13 19:24:56 he is working on OpenWebOS...not 3.0.5 Touchpad stuff. Oct 13 19:25:57 and I have been working with Touchpad since it was first introduced and I did not know that node module loading was enabled. Oct 13 19:30:28 does that make me clueless as well? Oct 13 20:43:33 ka6sox: so like i said the system he inherited. that fine he is working on the openWebOS stuff and i understand that takes precedence. but its not a reason for him not to know about the details of the system that he is basing off of. it is his responsibility to know them. but to your point he is working on the OpenWebOS stuff Oct 13 20:48:26 are you developing for Legacy 3.0.5? Oct 13 20:49:05 yes at their request Oct 13 20:57:49 then I might suggest a private email about his subject might be more appropriate than a public rant in a non-HP channel. Oct 13 20:57:58 s/his/this/ Oct 13 20:58:01 ka6sox meant: then I might suggest a private email about this subject might be more appropriate than a public rant in a non-HP channel. Oct 13 20:59:44 i apologize i didn't intend it to be a rant against him or the HP team in that regard, just frustration on trying to get information that i thought would be easily and ready available. Oct 13 21:01:10 gandhijee_, give the level of intensive development and the Brain Loss that HP has suffered over the last number of months it is not surprising to me that there is some confusion on Legacy Issues. Oct 13 21:01:33 s/give/given/ Oct 13 21:01:34 ka6sox meant: gandhijee_, given the level of intensive development and the Brain Loss that HP has suffered over the last number of months it is not surprising to me that there is some confusion on Legacy Issues. Oct 13 21:02:17 s/Brain Loss/Institutional Memory/ Oct 13 21:02:17 ka6sox meant: gandhijee_, give the level of intensive development and the Institutional Memory that HP has suffered over the last number of months it is not surprising to me that there is some confusion on Legacy Issues. Oct 13 21:15:52 i thought that drain happened before meg came on board and she kinda stopped that. then again i haven't really been keeping up with any type of news so i dunno. Oct 13 21:26:23 I don't know of any node developers...the only one I knew has moved on... Oct 13 21:26:59 its ok, i think i finally figured it out. i can post it if it would be worth while for someone Oct 13 21:28:55 yes, its always helpful to post things so people don't have to duplicate effort. Oct 13 23:18:45 * dwc- has no idea what gandhijee_ was referring to or why it was directed at me, but it seems like ka6sox has resolved it, whatever it is Oct 13 23:18:59 morning dwc- Oct 13 23:24:18 hello patrick Oct 13 23:48:37 so i've had ubuntu 11.10 chroot installed and i'm having trouble getting root privelages. could somebody help me out? the sudo command does nothing Oct 13 23:51:49 "sudo: unable to resolf host HPTouchpad" Oct 14 00:17:40 where are you doing this? Oct 14 00:17:47 inside the chroot? Oct 14 00:52:01 yeah inside chroot Oct 14 00:52:04 using terminal **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 14 03:00:02 2012