**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 09 02:59:59 2013 Mar 09 04:16:55 anyone around? got a question Mar 09 04:17:04 i think i already know the answer, but figure i'll double check Mar 09 04:17:22 specifically looking for someone like rod, tom, or scoutcamper Mar 09 04:18:36 ~asktoask Mar 09 04:18:37 Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can. Mar 09 04:18:43 :) Mar 09 04:18:48 hehe :) forgot about that rule Mar 09 04:19:04 looking to possibly make a self-installing app, err.... make the possibility Mar 09 04:19:13 i.e. install it without preware, or terminal, or even dev mode Mar 09 04:19:21 but, that would require a vulnerability, right? Mar 09 04:19:31 cause if so, the project is dropped (by me at least) Mar 09 04:22:10 so installed how then? Mar 09 04:22:44 in a way somewhat like jailbreakme used to on iOS Mar 09 04:22:54 basically install the IPK without the user having to use dev mode Mar 09 04:23:03 as some are affraid of dev mode, even the use of the word Mar 09 04:24:38 not familar with jailbreakme Mar 09 04:25:04 it was an on-device jailbreak solution, didn't have to plug into a computer Mar 09 04:26:00 really, it's for if i want to distribute an app, and someone can install a third-party app without preware, or something of the like Mar 09 04:26:08 hmm .. app catalog? Mar 09 04:26:47 well, could work. mainly wanting to do it as a proof-of-concept Mar 09 04:26:55 (friend asked me to ask if it could be possible) Mar 09 04:28:10 I'll wait for an expert to tell you it's not ... Mar 09 04:28:47 i told him i didn't think it was possible without finding a secutiry exploit, he wanted me to confirm with the experts :) Mar 09 04:30:46 PatrickC|Away: i dont think you can... you can download ipk via the browser, but it needs preware or the commandline installer to install it Mar 09 04:31:08 but im no expert Mar 09 05:44:46 PatrickC: WOSQI - devmode is required to use that too ... Mar 09 21:23:04 PatrickC|Away: there's a possibility of doing it if dev mode is enabled, depending on what local ports novacom might use. though some might rightly consider it a vulnerability if apps can get root no matter how it's done Mar 10 01:36:54 destinal: hmm.... would that not be the equivelent of using WOSQI? i mean, if dev mode is on then you can access it from any computer with the SDK/Novacom, or via wifi with the installed tool Mar 10 01:37:06 so wouldn't it be somewhat the same if you just did it via a port? Mar 10 01:42:15 PatrickC|Away: my take on it- not possible, and it would be foolish to condone such a thing Mar 10 01:42:25 fwiw :P Mar 10 01:42:31 ShiftyAxel: that's what i was thinking :P Mar 10 01:42:40 i didn't want to find an exploit and then expose it Mar 10 01:42:45 if that is what it would require Mar 10 02:55:07 ShiftyAxel: that's where IMO open webos should have a switch like android to install stuff from the web.. or well, if it ships with preware, preware has the same option Mar 10 02:56:08 let the user make the choice whether they want not to have gatekeepers **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 10 02:59:58 2013