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Apr 07 14:40:24 <Proximity> Hi webos-internals, I'm about to build a meta-doctor for pre2 2.2.4 and switching from NA to EU device I'd like to exchange /proc/nduid in the doctor to keep ndrive. When in the build process can I exchange the file?
Apr 07 15:11:14 <ka6sox> Proximity, the person who might be able to help with this is sleping now and might be up in 7hrs...
Apr 07 15:11:30 <ka6sox> maybe 8
Apr 07 15:13:21 <Proximity> ah. ok. thanks for the info. I won't wake him  ; D
Apr 07 15:25:42 <dwc-> I thought the nduid would be fixed for a device?
Apr 07 15:33:30 <ka6sox> it should be
Apr 07 15:33:58 <ka6sox> however if its possible then we can get things moving :)
Apr 07 15:37:14 <dwc-> but there shouldn't be any hardware swapping for a NA->EU device, right?
Apr 07 15:37:20 <dwc-> so shouldn't it not change anyways?
Apr 07 18:28:55 <crypticmofo> getting pre 2 in like 5 days
Apr 07 18:29:05 <crypticmofo> im excited i been away to long i realy missed the notification system
Apr 07 18:40:38 <crypticmofo> the pre 2 does it have good battery compred to the pre plus ?
Apr 07 19:00:58 <ka6sox> crypticmofo, I think they identical.
Apr 07 19:52:58 <crypticmofo> ok
Apr 07 19:53:09 <crypticmofo> i remember having the palm pre plus webos 2.0 was just coming out
Apr 07 19:53:18 <crypticmofo> and the palm pre 2 only devs got them
Apr 07 19:53:21 <crypticmofo> how long ago was that ?
Apr 07 19:54:14 <PatrickC|Away> crypticmofo: where have we seen eachother before?
Apr 07 19:54:42 <crypticmofo> dunno
Apr 07 19:54:45 <crypticmofo> after life ?
Apr 07 19:54:49 <PatrickC|Away> Android?
Apr 07 19:54:54 <crypticmofo> probably
Apr 07 19:55:02 <PatrickC|Away> that was a few years ago (dev units). and reguarding the batterys, it's around the same life, if not a little better
Apr 07 19:55:21 <crypticmofo> same thing as android
Apr 07 19:55:24 <PatrickC|Away> trying to think of which android channel i know you from.... i'm in abour 20
Apr 07 19:55:25 <PatrickC|Away> :P
Apr 07 19:55:28 <crypticmofo> turn everything off to eliminate battery ?
Apr 07 19:57:42 <crypticmofo> sound about right ?
Apr 07 19:58:03 <ka6sox> just like any mobile device
Apr 07 19:58:07 <crypticmofo> yea
Apr 07 19:58:08 <PatrickC|Away> basically... turn on airplane mode to make the battery last longer
Apr 07 19:58:18 <crypticmofo> yea and not get any text or anything
Apr 07 19:58:20 <crypticmofo> can't do that
Apr 07 19:58:41 <ka6sox> only leave on what you need
Apr 07 19:58:41 <PatrickC|Away> i did that for the longest time :) till i frankenpre'd
Apr 07 19:58:59 <PatrickC|Away> i had wifi, bluetooth, and gps on only. lasted around 1-2 days w/o a charge
Apr 07 21:49:17 <rwhitby> Proximity: nduid is a CPU hardware attribute.  It cannot be changed.  However, Impostah can override it for some applications.
Apr 07 23:05:22 <Proximity> rwhitby: Thank you for the insight information. I'll use the "common" way with writing into ndrive jail on startup.  Is there a way to add ipks into my custom doctor to be installed right away? Like enyo without maps, , the classic-container from the inst
Apr 07 23:05:22 <Proximity> ructions of arthur thornton, amazonservice & app?
Apr 07 23:09:55 <rwhitby> Proximity: packages, no.  root tarballs, yes.
Apr 07 23:13:37 <Proximity> Ok. thanks. I think I can find out about root tarballs at webos-internals.org. I'll get back later . : )
Apr 07 23:36:44 <Proximity> rwhitby: Ok. so, basicly I unpack the ipks, bring the files in the right structure and tar it up with the P flag to get the leading / and I'm good to go. right?
Apr 07 23:45:37 <Proximity> and I cannot overwrite /proc/nduid with the root tarball, but can I overwrite /usr/lib/libpdl.so in the root tarball?
Apr 08 00:40:10 <rwhitby> Proximity: sounds right
Apr 08 00:44:09 <Proximity> rwhitby: great : )  I will try that tomorrow. Thanks again and have a nice start into the week.
Apr 08 00:56:21 <crypticmofo> what are some good tips as soon as i get my palm
Apr 08 00:56:25 <crypticmofo> im assuming install preware
Apr 08 00:56:35 <crypticmofo> the install as much battery saving apps ?
Apr 08 00:57:48 <crypticmofo> or any good tips for me ?
Apr 08 01:02:10 <ka6sox> same thing as before...turn off EVERYTHING you don't need
Apr 08 01:04:22 <crypticmofo> lol
Apr 08 01:07:21 <ka6sox> crypticmofo, do you expect the laws of physics to be repealed for you?
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