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Aug 21 20:11:48 <mvecera> Hello everybody
Aug 21 20:12:15 <mvecera> I just have a quick question, does anybody happen to know whether te information at preware.org is still up-to-date?
Aug 21 20:12:39 <mvecera> I cannot find any preware app in the catalog on a new hp veer...
Aug 21 20:20:36 <Garfonso> preware never was in the official app catalog.
Aug 21 20:20:58 <Garfonso> you'll need to install webos quick install on a PC and install preware from that.
Aug 21 20:21:11 <Garfonso> ah, and enable developer mode.
Aug 21 20:24:58 <mvecera> the problem is that none of the ways now works - the sdk cannot be downloaded anymore, the standalone installer fails...
Aug 21 20:26:17 <mvecera> preware.org reads The best way to learn how to install Preware and other great homebrew applications, 		   patches, themes and custom kernels is to download the Preware Homebrew Documentation 		   app from the official HP webOS App Catalog
Aug 21 20:26:21 <Garfonso> there is a thread where you can get the SDK in webosnation forum => developer subforum. Have a look there.
Aug 21 20:26:26 <mvecera> so this confuses me
Aug 21 20:26:47 <mvecera> I see, thanks
Aug 21 20:27:01 <Garfonso> yes, the preware homebrew documentation should still be obtainable from the app cat. But that does not include preware, but only the documentation ;)
Aug 21 20:27:23 <Garfonso> sorry, forgot about the SDK.. of course that is a bit confusing right now. :(
Aug 21 20:29:16 <mvecera> on my veer I even cannot find the doc app in catalog, plus it seems like every second query of the catalog fails
Aug 21 20:29:29 <mvecera> never mind, I found the links for sdk downloads on the forum
Aug 21 20:29:35 <mvecera> thank you for your help!
Aug 21 22:52:03 <dwc-> you don't need the full sdk, just novacom
Aug 21 22:52:15 <dwc-> opensource.palm.com redirs to a place with it, though it seems slow
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