**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 29 02:59:59 2012 Jun 29 06:13:45 * rrix finished the last task of this contract, hopefully and will have time to play with WOCE this weekend :3 Jun 29 07:25:54 how did you all end up with a /var/luna/data/.passcode ? I don't have one of those on my touchpad Jun 29 07:43:26 esca: i think that's only if you have a PIN protecting your touchpad Jun 29 08:10:30 folks Jun 29 13:52:59 * EricBlade returns, much to your chagrin Jun 29 14:02:46 EricBlade, naw.... Jun 29 14:03:04 :) Jun 29 14:14:51 EricBlade, for now I think I'd like to put your #4 in the build instructions. Jun 29 14:15:09 rather than automate this. Jun 29 14:16:16 please do :) Jun 29 14:17:32 thanks Jun 29 14:20:27 hmm. some people have built the patched lunasysmgr and are sending it out Jun 29 14:21:34 and webosnation credited sugardave :) heh Jun 29 14:22:55 "sending it out"? Jun 29 14:23:13 this ought to get interesting. Jun 29 14:23:32 we can't prevent "roms" from getting out... Jun 29 14:25:18 bbiaw Jun 29 14:26:14 nope, we sure can't. a link to a patched binary is going around the twitters today Jun 29 16:28:20 folks Jun 29 17:12:12 nj eblade Jun 29 17:12:27 ty Jun 29 17:13:42 amazing how something so simple can make you a local hero Jun 29 17:29:52 might have a potential issue with build process Jun 29 17:30:29 it looks like the Src/input folder isn't being built - not sure how it is that it's building it without it Jun 29 17:49:26 ok i don't know what this LunaSysMgr is actually using for input, but it's definitely not the code that we've been supplied Jun 29 17:51:23 so many webos channels... Jun 29 17:51:29 so few users Jun 29 17:51:39 :) Jun 29 17:52:10 ...so little time :) Jun 29 17:54:13 alright, well, that little sidetrack blows up my next idea Jun 29 17:57:27 * EricBlade wonders if ka6sox or lemketron-away might be familiar with that area at all? the Src/input dir Jun 29 18:01:46 blows up? Jun 29 18:05:27 ok, background: was going to try to add a parameter to the flick gestures that would give Luna how many touches are on for it, so it can tell multi-finger swipes. I think I can do it in Src/input/hiddtp_qws.cpp .. however, the code in there does not build .. plenty of errors that seem to indicate that that code doesn't match up to the rest of the code we have Jun 29 18:07:15 it could very well be that the code to do input is remnant code and no longer used inside lsm Jun 29 18:20:07 hmm. ok, yeah, it does look like that Jun 29 18:20:42 there's a define HAVE_QPA that we're using, i'm not sure exactly what it means, but it seems to indicate to use some source of input that isn't the input code in the source Jun 29 18:57:12 ok i'm out of ideas Jun 29 18:58:26 hey ka6sox Jun 29 20:40:31 anyone looking at taking webos into mainline Angstrom or as a layer to oe-core? Jun 29 20:56:20 another thing we're probably going to need, if we add any features for devs to LunaSysMgr, is a way to determine if they are present Jun 29 20:58:31 my initial thought would be registering a service call to handle it, somewhere outside of the palm domain so it doesn't fall afoul of the catalog scanner Jun 29 21:15:16 EricBlade: I do believe that there are facilities to ask the system if a feature exists. If not, shouldn't be hard to implement. One can use system preferences to toggle features, too. Jun 29 21:28:50 dkirker: hmm. i'm not ringing any bells on that, although i'm not an Encyclopedia de webOS at this time - any idea what facility you might be thinking of? Jun 29 21:29:33 I'd have to search some of the cob webs in my brain (and I seriously almost read that as cob webos when I re-read it... :P ) Jun 29 21:30:53 I think you could even create a token for it that is installed in the installation script Jun 29 21:31:01 and then one can check if the token exists. Jun 29 21:36:55 sounds like wizardry Jun 29 21:37:19 though i think it might make more sense to check for something like that at runtime rather than install time Jun 29 21:40:47 EricBlade: Well, I guess maybe I am misinterpreting this. I am reading that you are wanting an app to check to see if the installed LunaSysMgr supports a feature? Jun 29 21:43:14 When you install the LunaSysMgr ipk you create special files in a special directory (I need to scratch my brain for it, but it is where all of the tokens exist, in /tmp me thinks). There is a service command you can call to read the values of certain tokens, which tell you about device features, etc. At uninstall time you can change the tokens or remove them. Jun 29 21:49:39 yes, that is what i'm looking for. i see what you're saying. that would require working out how we do the ipk packaging, since right now we're just copying over the LunaSysMgr bin Jun 29 22:12:28 dkirker: how about a system preference ? Jun 29 22:13:44 A system preference could tell you if something is enabled or disabled, but not if a capability exists. Jun 29 22:14:31 I mean, I suppose you could save some json, first param tells you the features exists or not, second param enables or disables it. Jun 29 22:15:02 existence of param = existence of feature. Jun 29 22:15:30 and /etc/prefs is the directory you where thinking about Jun 29 22:15:41 Yeah. That would be true. As long as you remove it when LunaSysMgr is removed. Shouldn't be hard. Jun 29 23:22:53 i <3 open source Jun 29 23:50:03 hey all, anybody have a pin/password protected touchpad with the Palm LunaSysMgr still? Jun 29 23:57:40 i don't keep mine passworded Jun 29 23:59:40 me neither Jun 29 23:59:56 I think you can lock the emulator though Jun 30 00:00:59 it's probably a bad sign that when i triggered the code i was working on just now, i found myself staring at the HP logo Jun 30 00:02:18 heh Jun 30 00:03:39 i am definitely calcualting some math in the wrong directions Jun 30 00:03:45 or something quite similar to that Jun 30 00:06:59 i don't imagine anyone happens to know if there's a quick way to access the Window class that an App is contained in, or vice versa? Jun 30 00:09:49 in js there'd just be a window object wouldn't there? Jun 30 00:11:32 working in C++ is a little more difficult to track down :) Jun 30 01:46:12 hey guys Jun 30 01:56:11 hmm. looks like we've got some potential problems with CE vs stock Luna Jun 30 01:57:21 People are noting that xecutah no longer works, and that the web browser's input box clears itself when tapping on it instead of putting the cursor at the end of the box or selecting the existing text Jun 30 02:00:49 interesting Jun 30 02:01:12 since the lunasysmgr should be close, but not identical, to the one shipped on device Jun 30 02:07:33 * PatrickC is going to fix his borked touchpad on sunday, then play time begins! :) Jun 30 02:07:46 well, helping people test time, i don't think im ready to dig into changing Luna yet lol Jun 30 02:08:14 i can def confirm that the browser address input is acting funky Jun 30 02:21:54 Xecutah seems to act.. different. Jun 30 02:23:07 i just started an Xterm, and while it eventually started, when I go into card view, and come back, it has an overlay of what looks like the Flash Player video button on top of the Xecutah window .. if i tap the play button, then it shows the xterm. Jun 30 02:23:22 and it opened a second card which stayed in blink-mode forever **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 30 02:59:58 2012