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Jul 08 05:59:51 <eblade_pre3> morning guys
Jul 08 07:13:50 <sandgorgon> just went through the wiki to install woce, and with guidance from dukiedrew and rwhitby, I am now running my own LunaSysMgr!
Jul 08 07:14:41 <sandgorgon> if I wasn't drinking already earlier, this would have been a great excuse to down another bottle of beer :-)
Jul 08 07:18:16 <sandgorgon> creating an acct for the wiki and hoping to add the notes regarding installing the sdk/pdk and to have the device in developer mode when doing the install
Jul 08 07:21:47 <eblade_pre3> :) yay more new people :)
Jul 08 07:23:16 <sandgorgon> I appreciate the welcome! :)
Jul 08 07:26:21 <sandgorgon> So I've created an account already  but the page is protected?
Jul 08 07:26:40 <rwhitby> sandgorgon: what is your wiki username?
Jul 08 07:26:47 <sandgorgon> Sandgorgon
Jul 08 07:27:10 <rwhitby> try now
Jul 08 07:27:59 <sandgorgon> beautiful! I can edit the page now, thank you very much!
Jul 08 08:03:34 <sandgorgon> I've got the wiki page updated with more notes on installing a new LunaSysMgr, calling it a night, have a good one you guys...
Jul 08 13:05:40 <ShiftyAxel> morning all
Jul 08 15:13:18 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: I'm attempting a rewrite of my gesture rewrite to use a recognizer
Jul 08 15:18:52 <ShiftyAxel> It appears that gestures are defined purely in the gestures folder, with no need to add them to sysmgr.pro
Jul 08 15:20:34 <ShiftyAxel> The SysMgr<Something>Gesture entry in the gesture header defines it's name, as used by grabGesture in whatever source file needs to use it, most notably WindowServer.cpp
Jul 08 15:21:19 <ShiftyAxel> it's also registered for the first (and only) time in WindowServer with registerRecognizer(<ClassName>)
Jul 08 15:22:13 <ShiftyAxel> All events are available to the gesture recognizer, which filters them out with <static_cast>s
Jul 08 15:22:45 <ShiftyAxel> So you can have keyboard gestures, orientation gestures, whatever you like… which is pretty sweet
Jul 08 15:29:43 <ShiftyAxel> No wait, I'm an idiot, it still needs to go in sysmgr.pro
Jul 08 15:29:54 <ShiftyAxel> For some reason find wasn't working properly
Jul 08 15:43:45 <ShiftyAxel> And I'm getting 'not defined in this scope' errors on compile, I wonder if SysMgrGestureScreenEdgeFlick and friends are compiled into the Qt build/patch
Jul 08 15:48:44 <ShiftyAxel> aha, grep -r 'SysMgrGesture' * inside woce-build reveals a whole bunch of stuff inside the qt folders, like a SysMgrGesture enum
Jul 08 15:48:53 <ShiftyAxel> looks like i'll have to find a way to impliment my own custom one
Jul 08 15:57:57 <ShiftyAxel> Hmm, or I may leave it.. I'm not down with modifying the Qt sources too
Jul 08 16:11:21 <EricBlade1> my guess is that it should be possible to register new ones inside Luna
Jul 08 16:56:52 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: I believe it is, but I'm having trouble figuring out how. They seem to have extended the Qt:: namespace with a bunch of their own gesture definitions, as Qt::PinchGesture etc are undocumented.
Jul 08 16:57:34 <ShiftyAxel> The API doc states that it should be QtPinchGesture, stuff like that
Jul 08 19:56:38 <EricBlade1> hmm
Jul 08 19:57:13 <EricBlade1> ShiftyAxel: i saw yesterday Ben was trying to help with the pdk breakage .. that get anywhere?
Jul 08 19:57:51 <ShiftyAxel> No results as yet, it's not something i've been working on
Jul 08 19:58:23 <ShiftyAxel> I just figured he'd know something, so i asked :)
Jul 08 21:27:01 <EricBlade1> that guy knows so much it's crazy, but sometimes getting that info from him is .. difficult.
Jul 08 22:39:51 <EricBlade1> if anyone wants to look into this, i don't know if Luna includes the display manager, but I think it might ..
Jul 08 22:40:10 <EricBlade1> if it does, it might be worth checking to see if the display manager resets the timer properly when it is forced on
Jul 08 22:40:50 <EricBlade1> i just discovered thanks to an odd disconnection of device, that the palm-install runs palm://com.palm.display/control/setState {state:"on"}
Jul 08 22:41:22 <EricBlade1> and it has frustrated me for months, when I'm developing, and I install an app, and the display turns on, and then turns right back off.
Jul 09 00:43:52 <EricBlade1> wow it really does take less time to cold boot my VM than to restore a saved image o.O
Jul 09 00:46:09 <summatusmentis> EricBlade1: getting info out of who?
Jul 09 00:46:51 <EricBlade1> Ben
Jul 09 00:47:03 <summatusmentis> yeah, I've noticed that too
Jul 09 00:47:18 <summatusmentis> he answers questions he thinks you're asking, but not questions you're actually asking
Jul 09 00:47:44 <EricBlade1> and doesn't frequently offer any more information than enough to answer the question
Jul 09 00:48:13 <summatusmentis> mmm
Jul 09 00:48:21 <EricBlade1> sometimes he's good on that, i've seen him post some really helpful things, but other times, it's like "ok .. now what question do i ask next"
Jul 09 01:56:59 <ka6sox-away> evening....
Jul 09 01:57:48 <rrix> Howdy ka6sox
Jul 09 01:57:53 <rrix> How was your weekend?
Jul 09 01:58:44 <ka6sox> long, HOT..fun
Jul 09 01:58:51 <rrix> :)
Jul 09 02:01:13 <ka6sox> still in recovery mode
Jul 09 02:04:09 <ka6sox> where is the Mer projects pages?
Jul 09 02:04:24 <ka6sox> I keep hearing about this project but Haven't found them yet.
Jul 09 02:06:09 <ka6sox> how is rrix doing?
Jul 09 02:06:23 <rrix> http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/Touchpad?
Jul 09 02:06:26 <rrix> http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/Touchpad ?
Jul 09 02:06:58 <rrix> ka6sox: I'm quite alright. Spent all weekend toying with EnyoJS and Phonegap
Jul 09 02:08:36 <ka6sox> excellent...
Jul 09 02:09:16 <rrix> Ended up hitting some dead ends
Jul 09 02:09:37 <rrix> What I should have been doing was offloading the rest of my data off my ssd and on to my server...
Jul 09 02:10:21 <ka6sox> that should be quick
Jul 09 02:10:45 <rrix> It should, but I have to do it over ethernet or directly over usb
Jul 09 02:10:54 <rrix> if I push a lot of data over my wifi card it shuts down
Jul 09 02:13:09 <EricBlade> wow.. don't ever try to ls-monitor your touchpad while it's playing music .. holy cow
Jul 09 02:13:41 <ka6sox> he he
Jul 09 02:13:52 <ka6sox> ah, okay
Jul 09 02:14:07 <rrix> haha
Jul 09 02:14:20 <ka6sox> EricBlade, did you ever get any response from Ben?
Jul 09 02:14:22 <EricBlade> i did just discover that it should in theory be possible to subscribe to com.palm.mediad to get status information that isn't normally produced by the HTML5 stuff as it should be
Jul 09 02:14:24 <ka6sox> (about PDK apps)
Jul 09 02:14:33 <EricBlade> ka6sox: i saw that shifty and someone else were talking to him
Jul 09 02:14:55 <ka6sox> EricBlade, thanks...I'll ask shifty when next I see him.
Jul 09 02:15:06 <EricBlade> he had said a bit ago that they hadn't realy got anywhere
Jul 09 02:33:14 <ka6sox> ah, thanks
Jul 09 02:34:16 <ka6sox> anything else *new*?
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