**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 10 02:59:58 2012 Jul 10 05:41:58 mmmm.... atoms... Jul 10 06:10:37 looks like using an actual full screen button in a flash app on CE will completely crash your sys Jul 10 06:11:13 yyup Jul 10 06:11:44 yet not trigger a reset either Jul 10 06:36:41 guys, upon installing woce, I noticed that I have issues with maximizing youtube videos, has anyone encountered this? Jul 10 06:37:38 the UI is in some weird state where there are no updates to the window Jul 10 06:37:55 and there are random lines/color on the screen Jul 10 06:38:08 probably Jul 10 06:38:57 woce is a WIP... Jul 10 06:40:53 gotcha, I thought I'd raise that issue in the case that someones hit that too Jul 10 06:41:28 I don't know if its just me, but woce feels 'more fluid and responsive' Jul 10 06:42:21 no complaints there of course Jul 10 06:44:16 :D Jul 10 06:45:10 by the time shiftyaxel and others get done with it I suspect it will be moreso. Jul 10 06:45:17 (fluid and responsive) Jul 10 06:45:41 very cool Jul 10 06:46:13 does anyone have a particular smallish task that this noob can help out with for the woce? Jul 10 06:47:39 fix the full screen flash and pdk issue? :) Jul 10 06:48:02 actually, a smallish one that I'd like Jul 10 06:48:05 dukiedrew: well, it goes excessively slowly, i didn't give it time to try to straighten itself out, just rebooted it Jul 10 06:48:17 is to be able to close or select cards on the side Jul 10 06:48:28 not just the center card Jul 10 06:48:41 i thought you could do that Jul 10 06:50:04 negative on mine Jul 10 06:54:23 I get it, so that you can select a side card and then make that 'active' immediately and 'full screen' Jul 10 06:54:52 in lieu of the current behavior where you select a side card, it goes to the center, and then you tap it to make it full screen Jul 10 06:55:24 if it could also print money as well that would be great. Jul 10 06:56:18 :) Jul 10 06:58:16 haha Jul 10 06:58:18 yeah Jul 10 07:00:14 hmm Jul 10 07:03:48 so first step for me then is to read up on how the card behavior is done, and try to get an understanding of that Jul 10 07:04:40 its a start/direction for me to get more familiar with the code Jul 10 07:06:08 sure Jul 10 07:06:10 are you familiar with Qt? Jul 10 07:06:52 a bit but not enough compared to you other guys for sure Jul 10 07:07:29 well, the card handling is mainly done in /lunaui/cards Jul 10 07:08:02 CardWindowManager & CardWindowManagerStates are probably your targets Jul 10 07:08:21 particularly the state "MinimizeState" Jul 10 07:10:07 got it Jul 10 07:10:51 have fun Jul 10 07:10:57 gnite Jul 10 07:11:01 I'll start digging, thanks! Jul 10 07:11:25 gnite guys... Jul 10 07:11:45 \quit Jul 10 09:16:51 folks Jul 10 09:22:19 hola Jul 10 12:24:54 morning all Jul 10 12:45:04 yay, home time Jul 10 12:45:06 later all! Jul 10 12:45:15 later cryptk Jul 10 13:43:18 i really need to remember to halt vagrant before i shutdown... Jul 10 13:43:25 it keeps breaking my virtual machines Jul 10 13:58:56 lol, awesome Jul 10 13:59:05 http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=HP+Windsornot&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=DDX8T-V9xp_yA46AzYEJ&biw=1280&bih=738&sei=DjX8T57vCtP98QPCuuWJBw Jul 10 13:59:16 second row is the 'TAKE MY MONEY' meme Jul 10 14:52:02 morning ShiftyAxel Jul 10 14:52:12 morning ka6sox Jul 10 14:52:22 how are things? Jul 10 14:52:34 one eye open Jul 10 14:53:01 lying in wait? Jul 10 14:53:36 would it be possible for you to start with EricBlade1's patch and then add new bits that implement yours in such a way that we can have one or the other? Jul 10 14:54:14 what I am hoping for is more atomic patches Jul 10 14:58:16 I think that should be doable Jul 10 14:59:02 the basic Idea is that we want to be able to do separate things or combined (if they aren't mutually exclusive) Jul 10 14:59:28 I was planning to add bottom-of-the-screen gesture area style stuff when tabletUi is set false, how do you think that should handle it? Jul 10 15:00:04 tabletUi false is for phones? Jul 10 15:00:09 * ka6sox doesn't know Jul 10 15:04:50 sort of Jul 10 15:05:07 on 2.2.4 I don't think it makes a difference, the UI is hardcoded to be phone-y Jul 10 15:05:42 but on 3.0, if you set tabletUi to false in luna-platform.conf it switches to (what appears to be) the 2.2.4 phone UI rebuilt using 3.0 Luna Jul 10 15:05:56 I figure it'd be useful to have for the possible future/the funsies Jul 10 15:07:51 I remember some article about that using the emulator. or maybe that was just forcing the screen size to be smaller? Jul 10 15:08:04 that was screen size iirc Jul 10 15:08:13 made it use the phone keyboard and stuff Jul 10 15:08:24 would have been interesting to see it in tabletUi=false actually Jul 10 15:08:29 *scheme, plot* Jul 10 15:09:33 okay...this is interesting but I would put this in the category "experimental" unless we are suddenly going to have our TPs making cell calls :D Jul 10 15:09:55 ka6sox: EricBlade's patch appears to have absorbed all his other commits as well Jul 10 15:10:01 shall I just go from the latest? Jul 10 15:10:47 jas Jul 10 15:10:48 or restrict it to the relevant functionality? it shouldn't be too hard to reimpliment his gesture system into my current code with a couple of choice if statemennts Jul 10 15:14:45 who is the graphics driver guru? Jul 10 15:16:12 dunno...nobody has come forward claiming that... Jul 10 15:17:31 I'm thinking of the webOS 2.0 days when there were efforts to get it on the older phones. someone was playing with the driver blobs Jul 10 15:20:13 sconix: hello? is anybody out there? just nod if you can hear me, is there anyone home? Jul 10 15:20:22 [/floyd] Jul 10 15:20:55 "I have great respect for the band...btw..which one of you is Pink?" Jul 10 15:21:09 Bob Geldof! Jul 10 15:24:07 morning all. Jul 10 15:24:21 morning amnoth Jul 10 15:25:38 morning amnoth Jul 10 15:37:13 right, i've re-merged EricBlade's screen gestures into my patch Jul 10 15:37:23 FOR THE ULTIMATE IN GESTURE DETECTING GOODNESS Jul 10 15:37:29 and perhaps slight overkill :D Jul 10 15:43:54 Cool. Jul 10 15:47:52 amnoth: would you be interested in testing an animations modification that i've been working on? Jul 10 15:48:31 it started as a little project to make the launcher more responsive to go with the new gesture system, but i made a few other tweaks as well Jul 10 15:49:05 though, it does involve both a new luna build and a new .conf file Jul 10 15:49:09 which is faff-y Jul 10 15:49:19 sure. Jul 10 15:50:00 well, it is fine to just use the .conf file Jul 10 15:50:23 but luna'll fall back to 35fps because it uses a different FPS definition Jul 10 15:50:31 which would be preferable? Jul 10 15:51:08 (35fps is default, the new one pushes it to 60) Jul 10 15:51:09 I'll test whatever sir. Mainly because I didn't see what the question was... Jul 10 15:51:33 in short: easy way or hard way? :P Jul 10 15:51:50 Doesn't matter to me. Which ever gives you better info. Jul 10 15:52:11 Or which ever I can understand by your typing... Jul 10 15:53:50 ka6sox: it would appear that EricBlade's gesture method never actually gets a chance to back my one up with initial testing, mine detects them all first Jul 10 15:54:01 amnoth: one sec, i'll quickly update the git repo and send you a link Jul 10 15:54:09 it's easier to test than building a whole new luna :D Jul 10 15:57:00 amnoth: https://raw.github.com/ShiftyAxel/LunaSysMgr/snappy-animations/conf/lunaAnimations.conf Jul 10 15:57:15 back up /etc/palm/lunaAnimations.conf on your TP Jul 10 15:57:19 then replace it with that Jul 10 15:57:29 restart luna, and revel in the newness Jul 10 15:58:06 and by newness i mean 'i tweaked the launcher and screen rotating animations. do you like them?' Jul 10 16:02:46 ok, what am I looking for? Jul 10 16:03:28 opening the launcher should feel snappier Jul 10 16:03:44 animations in general should be nice and smooth, at least with few cards open Jul 10 16:03:54 rotating the screen should have a smoother animation too Jul 10 16:04:07 just the conf update does this? Jul 10 16:04:10 yup Jul 10 16:04:17 you can fiddle with it yourself on-device Jul 10 16:04:47 I guess it's working…maybe I just don't pay attn to the lag... Jul 10 16:04:58 haha, possibly Jul 10 16:05:13 i notice the small things Jul 10 16:05:40 the rotation is better I think. Jul 10 16:05:48 the conf itself is just a bunch of Duration/Curve definitions, Duration is in ms and Curve is an integer representing an easing function (linear, cubic, exponential, etc) Jul 10 16:05:50 It's more of a transition than a flip. Jul 10 16:06:12 yeah, i made it a few ms slower, and it now runs at 60fps instead of being locked to 20 Jul 10 16:06:46 for some reason luna runs most things at 'normalFPS' which is 35 by default, but the rotation and loading glow animations run at 'slowFPS' which is 20 Jul 10 16:07:00 that conf defines both at 60 Jul 10 16:07:20 and one of my branches rewrites things to use one 'lunaFPS' value Jul 10 16:09:31 Fun. I'm just content with my little changes thus far lol. You guys are getting way deeper than me so far. Jul 10 16:10:10 as it happens i've known about lunaAnimations for ages, I've written Preware patches that modify it before iirc Jul 10 16:10:25 :D Jul 10 16:10:26 Cool. Jul 10 16:15:37 I think my computer doesn't like me anymore. Its had make -j4 for lsm-ce run way to many times in the past week. Jul 10 16:17:16 ShiftyAxel: I keep wanting to make videos and do a thumbs up at the end... Jul 10 16:18:50 amnoth: :D it's catching on! Jul 10 16:19:09 i need to find a party popper and put that at the end of my next one Jul 10 16:19:48 halfhalo: mine knows that feeling too Jul 10 16:20:04 halfhalo: what does lsm-ce do? Jul 10 16:20:20 lunasysmgr ce edition Jul 10 16:20:46 on a desktop? Jul 10 16:21:15 building on a desktop... for a touchpad... Jul 10 16:21:22 all the cool kids are doing it. Jul 10 16:21:54 ah, i got all excited thinking it was luna running under x86 :p Jul 10 16:22:03 nup Jul 10 16:22:27 trying to get out a working pdk fix for you peeps. Jul 10 16:23:17 yay! Jul 10 16:24:30 yay the second! Jul 10 16:25:37 yay the thiwaitasecond. Jul 10 16:29:43 stuff is taking a shockingly long time to download... Jul 10 16:30:48 qt and the patches etc? Jul 10 16:30:49 hmm, this works but I don't understand why lol. Jul 10 16:30:53 yeah, they take a forever Jul 10 16:30:56 amnoth: what works? Jul 10 16:31:30 not qt/patches, those were nigh instantaneous. Its everything else. Jul 10 16:31:34 I updated CardWindowManager::handleMouseReleaseMinimized to flows the window or maximize it depending on where the card is. Jul 10 16:31:59 close not flows Jul 10 16:32:02 ka6sox: good news on the prefs front, it's easy to hook it into something similar to sysUiEnableNextPrevGestures, doing that for now Jul 10 16:32:26 amnoth: interesting, so you can interact with cards regardless of where they are onscreen? Jul 10 16:32:32 aka 'the sensible, nice behaviour' Jul 10 16:32:44 pr.center().y() > boundingRect().center().y() Jul 10 16:33:20 So afar can tell, pr is the window I'm dragging, the other is the screen itself. Jul 10 16:33:41 ShiftyAxel, kewl Jul 10 16:34:14 so you can close it? Jul 10 16:34:29 nice Jul 10 16:34:31 that one maximizes. Jul 10 16:34:44 That's what confuses me. I thought it would be the other way around. Jul 10 16:35:01 hmm Jul 10 16:35:10 you're saying it is picking the right card Jul 10 16:35:13 but doing the wrong thing? Jul 10 16:35:31 Well, it works now. I just flip flopped the >< Jul 10 16:35:34 lol < > Jul 10 16:36:03 hmm Jul 10 16:36:11 what are the values of pr & boundingRect() ? Jul 10 16:36:12 But I read that as if the y of the center of my dragged card was less than the center of the screen max it Jul 10 16:36:17 idk Jul 10 16:36:28 add something like: Jul 10 16:36:34 qCritical() << pr << boundingRect(); Jul 10 16:36:38 and then check the logs for that Jul 10 16:37:22 Hmm, where do I read the logs? Jul 10 16:37:25 dukiedrew: how does one log properly? Jul 10 16:37:41 my main problem during luna dev has been doing it blind Jul 10 16:37:42 so when i run linux Jul 10 16:37:51 with the device connected Jul 10 16:37:59 in the terminal i type "novaterm" Jul 10 16:38:01 and that gives me a prompt on the device Jul 10 16:38:05 at which point I type Jul 10 16:38:09 tail -f /var/log/messages Jul 10 16:38:13 or in this case Jul 10 16:38:23 tail -f /var/log/messages | grep "ritical" Jul 10 16:38:42 qCritical should be high enough if you have your logs set pretty high Jul 10 16:38:50 (ie background logs) Jul 10 16:39:30 if you want to turn up/down LunaSysMgr's existing logs, I can explain that too Jul 10 16:40:12 also, if your program doesn't compile b/c it can't find qCritical(), add #include to the top Jul 10 16:42:10 -212 0 Jul 10 16:42:14 So up is -? Jul 10 16:42:31 potentially? Jul 10 16:42:37 also, check it with the device flipped Jul 10 16:42:55 screen coordinates are all in relation to speakers-down i believe Jul 10 16:43:07 you have to translate them if you want to check in other orientations Jul 10 16:43:07 always neg Jul 10 16:43:21 sometimes coordinates are "mapped" Jul 10 16:43:21 though that might only be for event handling Jul 10 16:43:24 in that case it's okay Jul 10 16:43:26 tail -f /var/log/messages |grep crit to just show crit events helps btw Jul 10 16:43:33 sweet Jul 10 16:43:37 thanks for the advice :) Jul 10 16:43:42 Thanks for the tip there drew, that will help a lot lol Jul 10 16:44:05 Well, that explains why it works like that at least. Jul 10 16:44:32 the one issue w/ that command is sometimes it hits a limit Jul 10 16:44:37 so every so often CTRL+C Jul 10 16:44:40 and re-run tail -f Jul 10 16:47:30 Heh, learning is fun. Jul 10 16:47:40 Now to fix the flicking as well. Jul 10 16:48:15 and groups >< Jul 10 16:48:21 amnoth: are you doing this in a git repo? Jul 10 16:48:29 No sir. Jul 10 16:48:48 I guess I should be huh... Jul 10 16:51:01 hell yeah Jul 10 16:51:06 you're on OSX, right? Jul 10 16:51:10 Indeed. Jul 10 16:51:18 http://mac.github.com/ Jul 10 16:51:26 such a useful tool, got me into git Jul 10 16:51:30 easy peasy to use Jul 10 16:51:47 so long as you think before you commit, because that shit ain't reversible Jul 10 16:51:50 >_> Jul 10 16:51:50 kk, I'll take a look sir. Jul 10 16:55:55 * halfhalo knows how to reverse a commit. Jul 10 16:57:36 * ShiftyAxel bows in reverence Jul 10 16:58:21 well, you can reverse them yes Jul 10 16:58:27 but not without record Jul 10 16:58:41 sure you can. Jul 10 16:58:49 I once clogged up a repo with ~50 'reverted' 'unreverted' commits :( Jul 10 16:58:54 :O Jul 10 16:58:56 ninja Jul 10 16:59:19 simplest way? git reset HEAD^ --hard; git push origin -f iirc Jul 10 16:59:41 ah yes, terminal commands Jul 10 16:59:55 i'm often worried that i'll screw something up if i interact with git via terminal Jul 10 17:00:52 terminal is your friend Jul 10 17:01:00 it is most of the time Jul 10 17:01:04 but git is scary Jul 10 17:01:12 also bbiab, gotta make some dinner Jul 10 17:06:37 ok, satisfied with that I guess…now what... Jul 10 17:09:33 * amnoth looks for dukiedrew's group flick handle.... Jul 10 17:10:33 still trying to figure out your "tabs" Jul 10 17:11:21 hmm Jul 10 17:11:32 the flick handle that closes cards? Jul 10 17:11:36 or the flick handle that goes to card view Jul 10 17:11:49 The flick that closes when in your tab view. Jul 10 17:12:32 Love your tabs btw Jul 10 17:13:10 void CardWindowManager::handleFlickGestureGroup(QGestureEvent* event) Jul 10 17:13:48 all the event handling can be found in CardWindowManagerStates Jul 10 17:13:58 search for "GroupState::" Jul 10 17:14:18 and then from there you can find which function in CardWindowManager that it calls Jul 10 17:14:40 thanks, yeah feel to improve :) Jul 10 17:15:12 i like it too...just need to cancel out events if you start your touch from the edge Jul 10 17:15:22 that annoys me Jul 10 17:15:42 what do you mean? Jul 10 17:16:28 so, if you have a browser window open Jul 10 17:16:36 and you flick from the side to go to tabbed card view Jul 10 17:16:38 that happens, Jul 10 17:16:44 but the flick is also registered in the browser window Jul 10 17:16:56 and thus the browser screen gets dragged a little bit before the flick is registered Jul 10 17:17:09 oh the scrolling that happens. Jul 10 17:17:23 i'd like it such that any event that *starts* from an edge doesn't get propagated down to the card level Jul 10 17:17:32 I see. Jul 10 17:20:43 What is dock mode? Jul 10 17:22:13 the wireless charging device I think? Jul 10 17:22:28 kk, just checking Jul 10 17:22:28 touchstone Jul 10 17:23:41 Touchstones are nice Jul 10 17:24:55 Hehe, seeing fabs and want to think fake tabs... Jul 10 17:34:12 well, let's hope I don't break anything with github here... Jul 10 17:35:05 dkirker is here! Jul 10 17:38:31 i return! Jul 10 17:38:45 Good, I don't understand github lol Jul 10 17:38:58 wb btw >.> Jul 10 17:39:33 Oh, I forked from your Luna… ? Jul 10 17:40:02 me? Jul 10 17:40:18 https://github.com/amnoth/ Jul 10 17:40:31 says I forked yours... Jul 10 17:40:47 again, I hate learning... Jul 10 17:40:58 nice carbon copy you got there :) Jul 10 17:41:08 Not want I wanted... Jul 10 17:41:22 what were you looking for? Jul 10 17:41:34 I was trying to fork the base... Jul 10 17:41:38 oic Jul 10 17:41:41 So I guess I should delete this... Jul 10 17:41:43 yeah Jul 10 17:41:54 you'll be wanting to fork the webOS-Ports one i think Jul 10 17:42:12 though i think ka6sox is setting up some sort of system for categorizing pull requests Jul 10 17:42:21 Heh, thought that's what I did. Jul 10 17:43:06 Soo, I'm at https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr that right? Jul 10 17:43:27 try https://github.com/webos-ports/LunaSysMgr Jul 10 17:43:31 Or this one?https://github.com/webOS-ports/LunaSysMgr Jul 10 17:43:37 kk Jul 10 17:43:38 that one Jul 10 17:43:56 and just click fork in the top right, right? Jul 10 17:44:01 yup Jul 10 17:44:12 hot forking action ensued Jul 10 17:44:19 I feel like I just did that... Jul 10 17:44:51 well, at least it says the right thing here... Jul 10 17:45:02 indeed, the end result is the same Jul 10 17:45:12 but it has the correct upstream now Jul 10 17:45:17 (webos-ports) Jul 10 18:21:35 amnoth, what is your change? Jul 10 18:21:45 ? Jul 10 18:22:05 Please tell me I didn't do something dumb on github already? Jul 10 18:22:20 nope Jul 10 18:22:26 not at all...you are doing well. Jul 10 18:22:43 Whew, what change are you referring to? Jul 10 18:24:05 did you have mods? Jul 10 18:24:29 Oh, I've just been messing with a few things. So far very minor tweaks. Jul 10 18:24:37 Disabled the home button. >.> Jul 10 18:25:16 Made flick down (kinda) maximize a window. Jul 10 18:25:17 I don't see any published commits for you Jul 10 18:25:25 share! :) Jul 10 18:25:31 ShiftyAxel: still learning this github thing. Jul 10 18:25:45 Not seeing how to switch between branch code locally yet. Jul 10 18:25:49 never used this before. Jul 10 18:26:18 open the repo in github for mac -> click branch view -> make new branches -> switch Jul 10 18:27:06 I made a test-branch. what do I edit locally though? Jul 10 18:27:19 git branch Jul 10 18:27:28 git checkout -b test-branch Jul 10 18:27:32 iirc Jul 10 18:28:05 You edit the files in the github folder Jul 10 18:28:15 it tracks them all for you, changes appear in the commit view Jul 10 18:28:38 switching branches changes the files inside the folder Jul 10 18:29:25 Oh. Jul 10 18:29:51 Interesting. So whatever branch I have selected in the gui is what I'm editing locally? Jul 10 18:29:55 amnoth, Jul 10 18:30:07 to switch branches create a branch Jul 10 18:30:17 then git checkout -b branchname Jul 10 18:30:20 amnoth: yeah Jul 10 18:30:43 Well, I''ll give the a whirl. Worst case it blows up. Jul 10 18:30:50 naw Jul 10 18:31:19 amnoth, http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/ch04.html Jul 10 18:31:39 http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Branching-Basic-Branching-and-Merging Jul 10 18:31:46 both of those explain it.... Jul 10 18:31:50 tyvm. Jul 10 18:32:00 as far as merging goes...thats a horse of a different colour.... Jul 10 18:34:12 ShiftyAxel, EricBlade once we can get you guys and sconix together then we can integrate better... Jul 10 18:34:49 ka6sox, EricBlade: indeed, that'll be major progress Jul 10 18:35:16 sorry for last night, my evening got bit longer than I thought Jul 10 18:35:49 but I am usually free around this time Jul 10 18:35:52 sconix: it's all good Jul 10 18:36:16 we could throw around some preliminary ideas and present them to EricBlade when he appears? Jul 10 18:36:28 sure Jul 10 18:37:47 "EricBlade's patch appears to have absorbed all his other commits as well" ... yeah, what the hell is up with that? I know there's some way to edit what commits are entered .. but i can't find it .. and why did it automatically suck in the later commits? Jul 10 18:38:28 EricBlade: I believe it's because you were working in master, it pulls in the entire branch Jul 10 18:38:53 also, morning EricBlade, up for hashing out the Luna prefs stuff with me and sconix? Jul 10 18:39:06 change the commit range for the pull req/patch. problem solved Jul 10 18:41:21 sconix: I've managed to integrate my patch and EricBlade's into the same branch, and added a hook to Preferences.cpp, same place as the Advanced Gestures preference Jul 10 18:41:43 sconix: would it be possible for Tweaks to interface with Preferences.cpp, or do you think a separate app would be in order? Jul 10 18:41:52 halfhalo: i can't find the option to change the commit range, unless i open a new pull request, and then the option is greyed out Jul 10 18:44:17 ShiftyAxel: I am just taking a peek in the Luna source code etc. so give me a sec to get myself a bit familiar of the situation Jul 10 18:44:30 i really think we should be able to use the system settings service that i was talking about a few days ago, enforce a mandatory prefix on setting names so they don't potentially get clobbered on the offchance there's anyone who's actually used that service, and .. i don't particularly care if we write a new app and swallow it into AIO, use tweaks, or patch the existing apps Jul 10 18:45:25 you mean the system settings service that manages the systempreferences+ Jul 10 18:45:26 ? Jul 10 18:46:24 YEEEAAAAHHHHHYEA Jul 10 18:46:59 if yes then that would work nicely I think Jul 10 18:47:18 not that hard to even extend the Tweaks to support system preferences if wanted Jul 10 18:48:07 halfhalo: Did Lil Jon yust enter the room? Jul 10 18:48:34 sconix: I like that idea, if Tweaks were to become the catch-all system prefs app Jul 10 18:49:07 sconix: Though perhaps add icons to the interface entries, to me it seems a little bit plain at the moment Jul 10 18:49:33 jeah I had plans to include a support for defining system prefs in the json so that tweaks could then manage them as well but never had the real need / time Jul 10 18:50:16 sconix: can I assist in any way? Jul 10 18:50:51 sconix: I can do c++ and js, though i probably don't have quite as much experience as some Jul 10 18:51:02 yeah that's the one. i had dug through the code the other day to figure out what all was needed to add a watch for a new preference to Luna's settings code, but i probably should've noted it somewhere though :| Jul 10 18:51:14 well its not like it would take lot of effort so if I could find time to do I could do it myself, but at the moment I am super busy with work stuff Jul 10 18:51:33 rewriting almost everything at work with enyojs so I have my plate rather full :) Jul 10 18:52:19 but if you get the system prefs stuff working in Luna I certainly would like to try to find the time to extend tweaks to give you easy interface for those settings Jul 10 18:54:16 yay @enyo Jul 10 18:54:46 this is the only webos channel where i miss a large volume of stuff when i go to sleep.. did i miss anything good Jul 10 18:55:06 sconix: well, define 'get the system prefs stuff working' Jul 10 18:55:25 atm it does work, there's just nothing to change the preference Jul 10 18:55:54 I mean if you get the Luna store its preferences into system prefs, tweaks is only needed to give nice interface for end user to change the settings Jul 10 18:56:19 oh you mean its already doing it Jul 10 18:56:21 yeah Jul 10 18:56:37 ah sorry not fully up to speed of the situation :) Jul 10 18:56:39 i based it off the Advanced Gestures setting in Screen & Lock- it uses the same api Jul 10 18:57:19 ShiftyAxel: There's my crappy code sir. Jul 10 18:57:39 so i guess it would just be a matter of using the same code, only with 'sysUiGestureDetection' instead of 'sysUiEnableNextPrevGestures' Jul 10 18:58:21 well I could definitely whip up something quickly for tweaks during next week if wanted, this week I just can not since I have weekend trip coming Jul 10 19:00:13 sconix: go for it when you've got the time, i don't know how tweaks works v.well, but i'll let you know if i decided to fiddle and make any progress Jul 10 19:00:38 amnoth: nice, it looks good to me Jul 10 19:01:02 ShiftyAxel: So is there an easy way for me to merge your no button into that test branch? Jul 10 19:01:55 back in the day my idea was to have the interface have tweaks and prefs views and the prefs views would be just system preferences which are defined through the json files as the tweaks are, i.e. just tell tweaks what keys to manage from system prefs and how to categorize them etc. Jul 10 19:02:16 I mean interface of Tweaks Jul 10 19:02:25 sconix: I like that also Jul 10 19:02:34 Hmm, interesting Jul 10 19:03:39 so actually the needed code is not that much since I think the json files could take the same format so just add config key to tell that its a system prefs and then support for reading/changing system prefs into tweaks and thats it Jul 10 19:04:08 then when ever new config keys gets taken into use no need to change the code just the json file Jul 10 19:06:20 sconix: do you have a git repo for tweaks? Jul 10 19:06:50 it sits in the github Jul 10 19:07:11 at least it was under wosi, its been a while since I have touched webos stuff :) Jul 10 19:07:12 cool, i'll take a peek at some point Jul 10 19:07:31 i know the feeling, i used to write patches a fair bit Jul 10 19:07:46