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Jul 18 03:00:47 <bhuey> if HP would release more code you'd see more hacks
Jul 18 03:02:47 * bhuey wonder how their webkit development is going
Jul 18 03:03:39 <bhuey> would be nice to see it hit the community addition
Jul 18 03:17:00 <ka6sox-away> bhuey, yes, it "would" but that would require someone to have that itch to scratch...but is possible!
Jul 18 03:18:26 <fxspec06> i have itches, i just can't reach them =|
Jul 18 03:25:32 <tyrok_laptop> Just committed and pushed a change authored on my Palm Pre.  Problem is, it now lists the "author" as "root".
Jul 18 03:25:34 <tyrok_laptop> Tried amending the commit and ended up with another commit authored by "root".  Any way to clean that up and/or is that a problem?
Jul 18 03:26:17 <tyrok_laptop> Commit log is here: https://github.com/tyrok1/LunaSysMgr/commits/
Jul 18 03:26:35 <dwc-> it's your repo so you can just undo it if you want
Jul 18 03:26:50 <tyrok_laptop> Too new to git to know how to do that.  Any pointers?
Jul 18 03:27:58 <dwc-> sorry, too new to git to know how, just that it's possible
Jul 18 03:28:19 <dwc-> I do know you can use git config to set your name/email
Jul 18 03:29:02 <dwc-> pretty sure the patches could be cherry-picked/merged/fixed and reattributed at the same time too though
Jul 18 03:33:45 <tyrok_laptop> *facepalm* git revert just made the commit log mess worse.  Code's still fine, it's just the history that's messed up.
Jul 18 03:35:47 <dwc-> maybe rebase
Jul 18 03:36:26 <dwc-> rebase the root/undos/redo into one commit, and then re-push?
Jul 18 03:44:07 <tyrok_laptop> This is quickly becoming very much not worth it.  I just reverted the previous change.  I'm going to just recommit with a correct commit message.
Jul 18 04:09:14 <rwhitby> tyrok: read up on git rebase and git amend. never use git revert.
Jul 18 04:09:57 <rwhitby> since it's your repo, you can rewrite history with a push -f if you choose
Jul 18 04:13:48 <sandgorgon> hey guys, finally had some time to work on  woce and I did some small mods
Jul 18 04:14:41 <sandgorgon> very minor thing, I added 'CE' to the label so that it says 'HP webOS CE'
Jul 18 04:15:12 <sandgorgon> then as suggested by people who rock here, I got my feet wet reading the code at 'cards'
Jul 18 04:15:36 <sandgorgon> I modified the code so that when you tap on a previous and next group
Jul 18 04:15:57 <sandgorgon> it will maximize when they are tapped
Jul 18 04:16:17 <sandgorgon> the code I've been reading is soo clean
Jul 18 04:16:42 <sandgorgon> that REALLY helped me in a big way
Jul 18 04:18:06 <ka6sox> kk
Jul 18 04:18:19 <ka6sox> sandgorgon, do you have a repo where we can look @ this?
Jul 18 04:18:28 <ka6sox> (on github?)
Jul 18 04:28:21 <sandgorgon> I still have to set-up a repo at github sorry
Jul 18 04:28:51 <ka6sox> np...let us know when you have something there...
Jul 18 04:29:02 <ka6sox> its not a problem..take your time.
Jul 18 04:30:44 <sandgorgon> thanks
Jul 18 05:20:51 <eblade-synergy> Hmm
Jul 18 05:21:07 <ka6sox> hmmm?
Jul 18 05:21:51 <eblade-synergy> The messaging app is really weird.  It posted my irc chats a page down
Jul 18 05:22:18 <eblade-synergy> Presumably because of my login a few hours ago that it just sorted out
Jul 18 05:22:27 <ka6sox> that app needs rewriting...but I'm not sure it is even on the list
Jul 18 05:23:50 <eblade-synergy> "the list"?
Jul 18 05:24:17 <eblade-synergy> I know Ben said he wasn't even sure who was doing messaging anymore
Jul 18 05:24:43 <ka6sox> the list of apps for release...
Jul 18 05:24:52 <ka6sox> I've actually not seen a list of apps for it.
Jul 18 05:24:57 <ka6sox> (owo or anything)
Jul 18 05:25:15 <ka6sox> if this app is something we want to ask for regarding WOCE I can do that...
Jul 18 05:25:46 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, messanging might could be considered "Core Apps"
Jul 18 05:26:42 <ka6sox> your guess is as good as mine
Jul 18 05:27:14 <eblade-synergy> What app isn't a core app? Its not like HP supplied the kitchen sink
Jul 18 05:27:24 <eblade-synergy> Although they did supply a clock and a calculator.
Jul 18 05:27:29 <eblade-synergy> At least after 3.0.0
Jul 18 05:37:25 <eblade-synergy> I am at like the worlds most boring poker game
Jul 18 05:37:37 <ka6sox> yawn
Jul 18 05:55:29 <eblade-synergy> The bug with scroll touches going to the wrong place is not just after a screen blank
Jul 18 05:55:43 <eblade-synergy> I just had it happen under use
Jul 18 05:57:17 <eblade-synergy> Switched from PDF to email, and first touch after switch was wrong side
Jul 18 06:31:09 <bhuey> folks
Jul 18 06:31:18 * bhuey watches a program on super-hybrid cars
Jul 18 06:31:28 <bhuey> Frontline PBS
Jul 18 06:32:10 <ka6sox> bhuey
Jul 18 06:32:32 <bhuey> hey ka6sox
Jul 18 08:49:14 <dwc-> 22:27 < eblade-synergy> At least after 3.0.0
Jul 18 08:49:23 <dwc-> I had a clock and calculator in 2.x?
Jul 18 09:02:10 <ka6sox> and a messaging app too!
Jul 18 09:24:49 <EricBlade> dwc-: yeah, when i opened up my last unopened touchpad just before christmas, it came with 3.0.0 on it, and i was quite surprised to not locate a clock
Jul 18 09:25:06 <EricBlade> but when i updated it to 3.0.2, there it was.
Jul 18 09:25:38 <EricBlade> several weeks ago i was actually mortified to discover that iOS does not appear to include either a clock or a calculator.
Jul 18 09:29:38 <EricBlade> wth, i have a busy spinner over my exhibition app
Jul 18 09:30:11 <EricBlade> cleared exhibition, and luna crashed
Jul 18 12:09:49 <tyrok_phone> Are there any classes in particular that would be especially helpful to have documented?
Jul 18 12:57:05 <ShiftyAxel_TP> morning all
Jul 18 14:03:04 <ka6sox-away> morning shifty
Jul 18 14:08:34 <ShiftyAxel> morning ka6sox
Jul 18 14:08:54 <ShiftyAxel> have you seen the new enyojs.com? it's looking rather nice
Jul 18 14:11:20 <ka6sox> no, didn't see that one yet.
Jul 18 14:22:53 <ShiftyAxel> interesting
Jul 18 14:23:00 <ShiftyAxel> https://github.com/isis-project/isis2
Jul 18 14:23:11 <ShiftyAxel> project file suggests that it's a WebKit2 build
Jul 18 14:26:09 <ka6sox> yum...
Jul 18 14:26:54 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, have you looked @ dukiedrew's code to see what, if anything, is needed to tweaksify it?
Jul 18 14:29:40 <ShiftyAxel> just having a peek now, looks like it should be fairly straightforward
Jul 18 14:29:54 <ShiftyAxel> though all his modifications are in one branch, which might get a little messy
Jul 18 14:30:30 <ka6sox> morning tyrok_phone
Jul 18 14:32:36 <ShiftyAxel> also, there may be a few conflicts between patches when they all get merged together, more specifically EricBlade's left/right swipe gesture
Jul 18 14:36:52 <ka6sox> what, if anything, does EricBlade's L/R patch need for Tweakifying?
Jul 18 14:38:03 <ShiftyAxel> a json and a couple of if statements should do
Jul 18 14:38:30 <ka6sox> ah okay...
Jul 18 14:38:31 <ka6sox> good
Jul 18 14:38:31 <ShiftyAxel> i'm guessing we want to tweaksify everything we can?
Jul 18 14:38:46 <ka6sox> yup...
Jul 18 14:39:26 <ka6sox> I think sconix was going to try to take a peek @ your tweaks-3.0.0 stuff today if he got time.
Jul 18 14:42:16 <ShiftyAxel> excellent, then we can roll on with the other stuff
Jul 18 14:42:43 <ShiftyAxel> i think we may need to talk with dukiedrew about his stuff though, some of it doesn't seem ready for primetime yet
Jul 18 14:43:25 <ka6sox> okay we can add that later then.
Jul 18 14:44:23 <ShiftyAxel> sounds good
Jul 18 14:44:59 <ShiftyAxel> i think trying to merge everything at once would cause something of a pile-up, probably best to get some of it settled in master before applying the more advanced modifications
Jul 18 14:45:29 <ShiftyAxel> i tested all my stuff together last night too, seems good but my luna-touch branch still has some issues, so that one may have to wait as well
Jul 18 14:54:39 <ka6sox> we need to get your stuff and ericblade's to play nice together...
Jul 18 14:54:54 <ka6sox> iirc you were switching back and forth with those.
Jul 18 14:57:59 <ShiftyAxel> i think it's all good now
Jul 18 14:58:41 <ShiftyAxel> i untangled my code from the stock code, so it doesn't delete anything or mess with anything that it doesn't need to
Jul 18 15:22:07 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, ty.
Jul 18 16:35:51 <ShiftyAxel> yay, another bug in luna-touch squashed
Jul 18 16:50:59 <ka6sox> :)
Jul 18 17:09:17 <HaDAk_> which bug?
Jul 18 17:09:59 <ShiftyAxel> open card -> keep minimized -> open universal search -> tap something -> tap falls through to card view and maximizes the current card
Jul 18 17:10:23 <ShiftyAxel> fixed it by having Just Type eat tap events
Jul 18 17:10:39 <ShiftyAxel> though now it's giving me a strange, intermittent focus issue with the keyboard...
Jul 18 17:11:54 <HaDAk_> where are the commits for this: http://www.webosnation.com/webos-community-edition-gets-card-stack-management-makes-sense
Jul 18 17:11:57 <HaDAk_> i'd like to try it out
Jul 18 17:15:38 <ShiftyAxel> https://www.github.com/dukiedrew/LunaSysMgr
Jul 18 17:15:55 <HaDAk_> sweet
Jul 18 17:16:07 <ShiftyAxel> all his stuff is in one monolithic master branch
Jul 18 17:16:32 <ShiftyAxel> so you'll also get (iirc) the card tabs thing, keyboard hysteresis and a big 'duke' logo on the keyboard
Jul 18 17:22:50 <ShiftyAxel> have any of you guys noticed odd behaviour if you stop, replace and then start luna without turning the screen on?
Jul 18 17:23:37 <ShiftyAxel> my TP just sort of hangs until i hold the home button, at which point it continues the start process and eventually the glowing HP appears
Jul 18 18:10:29 <ka6sox> ugh..102 tommorrow.
Jul 18 18:10:32 <ka6sox> oops
Jul 18 18:23:11 <halfhalo> ewwwww
Jul 18 21:01:04 <tyrok_laptop> Browsable online Doxygen output of latest docs commits: http://tyrok1.github.com/LunaSysMgr/
Jul 18 21:02:11 <tyrok_laptop> I have to update it manually, so it'll probably quite often lag behind the master branch as far as keeping up with current commits goes.
Jul 18 21:06:54 <ka6sox> verry nice
Jul 18 21:11:02 <rwhitby> tyrok_laptop: nice work
Jul 18 21:11:22 <tyrok_laptop> Thanks!
Jul 18 21:11:56 <rwhitby> ShiftyAxel: once dukiedrew sees other patches ending up as tweakable options in a preware release, he'll be incentivised to split up and submit his stuff along the same lines
Jul 18 21:21:07 <tyrok_laptop> Just commmitted docs for HostBase.  Looks like the Doxygen output lags a bit even behind when I commit new versions of it.
Jul 18 21:23:48 <fahhem> tyrok_laptop: webOS Services has something for nyxlib and auto-generating docs online, I wonder if they'll add LunaSysMgr (http://webosservices.com/doc/nyx/)
Jul 18 21:25:10 <tyrok_laptop> fahhem: Huh...haven't seen that before.  Looks like they use Doxygen as well.
Jul 18 21:25:58 <fahhem> yeah, want me to contact them about adding LunaSysMgr?
Jul 18 21:26:07 <fahhem> so there isn't a duplication of effort?
Jul 18 21:26:53 <tyrok_laptop> They haven't posted anything since March.  Are they still active?
Jul 18 21:27:39 <fahhem> yeah, but there hasn't been any response from the community so they put it on the backburner
Jul 18 21:27:47 <tyrok_laptop> I guess you could go ahead and contact them if you want.  It's open source.  They can view it and keep up with it anyway.
Jul 18 21:29:55 <tyrok_laptop> fahhem: To clarify, do you mean that they already have LunaSysMgr documented and you'd like to see if they could contribute what they have, or that you'd like to let them know about the docs I'm building?
Jul 18 21:30:28 <fahhem> oh, the doxygen stuff
Jul 18 21:30:57 <fahhem> I wasn't aware you were adding the docs yourself
Jul 18 21:31:38 <tyrok_laptop> Yeah.  LunaSysMgr has next to no documentation.  I'm going through and basically documenting what each class/method does.
Jul 18 21:31:57 <tyrok_laptop> And each variable.  And a few other things.  But mostly the classes.
Jul 18 21:32:09 <fahhem> ah, okay
Jul 18 21:32:31 <tyrok_laptop> fahhem: See also: https://github.com/tyrok1/LunaSysMgr/
Jul 18 21:32:35 <fahhem> would you mind if they had a copy next to the /doc/nyx/ stuff they already have with your docs?
Jul 18 21:33:51 <bhuey> folks
Jul 18 21:34:27 <tyrok_laptop> fahhem: It's open source.  I'd be honored.  But I would recommend they link back to mine since I'm actively working on it and it'll be a bit more up-to-date.
Jul 18 21:38:25 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> rwhitby: indeed, this seems a good approach to take
Jul 18 21:46:54 <fahhem> tyrok_laptop: I'll make sure they put that link somewhere in their header template
Jul 18 22:10:13 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> has anyone here compiled Isis under ubuntu?
Jul 18 22:22:03 <HaDAk> i have. it crashes as soon as you try to enter a url
Jul 18 22:22:06 <HaDAk> at least, it did for me
Jul 18 22:23:27 <dwc-> I have, mine works
Jul 18 22:32:44 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> did it take forever to download WebKit for you guys?
Jul 18 22:32:57 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> Mine's been downloading for hours
Jul 18 22:42:13 <HaDAk> webkit is very large
Jul 18 22:42:31 <HaDAk> it took several minutes at 6 megabytes/sec
Jul 18 22:51:34 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> yeah, gigabytes large
Jul 18 22:52:04 <ShiftyAxel-Pre> sounds like you have a mighty fine internet connection- mine's been dawdling around 500kb/s
Jul 18 23:10:41 <dwc-> ShiftyAxel-Pre: cloning off github?
Jul 18 23:10:50 <ShiftyAxel> running build.sh
Jul 18 23:10:55 <dwc-> make sure you're using git:// and not https://
Jul 18 23:11:02 <ShiftyAxel> it's only just finished resolving the deltas, woe is me
Jul 18 23:12:30 <ShiftyAxel> in my experience git fails when trying to use anything other than git://
Jul 18 23:14:32 <ShiftyAxel> and how is chrome so small when webkit is so freakin' massive?
Jul 18 23:14:37 * ShiftyAxel is thoroughly mystified
Jul 18 23:17:16 <ShiftyAxel> ..actually wait, i'm an idiot. libraries.
Jul 19 00:13:16 <eblade-synergy> Hey we got a problem with flash support now, maybe
Jul 19 00:13:55 <eblade-synergy> Going fullscreen with flash inside an app, increases the screen size beyond the screen boundaries
Jul 19 00:58:03 <ShiftyAxel> i'm calling it a night, later all
Jul 19 01:20:59 <eblade-synergy> Anyone else maybe able to confirm?
Jul 19 01:26:15 <eblade-synergy> Proposal: an option for dashboards to not display on lock screen.  Might be easy if the lock screen uses a second instance of the dash container.
Jul 19 01:26:39 <eblade-synergy> Individual dashboards, developer specified not user
Jul 19 01:27:24 <eblade-synergy> So you can have dash apps that aren't useful from lock not show
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