**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 05 02:59:59 2012 Aug 05 03:03:00 * rrix is taking a step away Aug 05 03:03:58 I will be hopping on wirc shortly Aug 05 03:05:55 * dtzWill removes all patches, hehe Aug 05 03:06:04 well most, anyway Aug 05 03:06:32 not sure if my retile animation fail is due to that or not Aug 05 03:09:51 uh oh... Aug 05 03:10:29 haha most of these patches are by shifty :) (ty! :D) Aug 05 03:10:41 ka6sox-enyo: uh oh? Aug 05 03:11:15 removing the patches Aug 05 03:11:54 it probably was just the "disable reticle" (err whatever it's called) patch not playing nice with the changes Aug 05 03:12:24 but also I replaced my lunaanimations.conf entirely, so anything that relied on changed entries there would break. Aug 05 03:12:52 but yeah I imagine misc other patches won't play nice with this... Aug 05 03:15:02 hmmm Aug 05 03:15:08 hmm. Aug 05 03:15:24 we do need a patch to make the tap indicator tweakable don't we Aug 05 03:16:28 would be nice :) Aug 05 03:16:46 hey so I might've done something wrong, but the top-left of my screen has garbage on it now D: Aug 05 03:16:59 basically where the drop-down menu normally would go Aug 05 03:18:08 any thoughts on what might cause that? Aug 05 03:18:23 uh oh... Aug 05 03:18:35 EricBlade1, yup Aug 05 03:20:12 dtzWill, let me ask rrix to come and answer. Aug 05 03:20:24 ka6sox-enyo, -enyo? Aug 05 03:20:26 at the event? Aug 05 03:20:40 yes Aug 05 03:21:04 ah nice! wish i could have been there :/ Aug 05 03:21:40 yup... Aug 05 03:21:59 haha whatcha guys doing? oh I see y'all are at the event cool Aug 05 03:22:04 what all is it? a massive enyo hackathon? Aug 05 03:22:27 There's an Enyo event going on somewhere? Aug 05 03:22:38 yep Aug 05 03:23:28 Ah: http://enyohackathon.eventbrite.com/ Aug 05 03:23:31 dtzWill, what's up? Aug 05 03:24:13 dtzWill: hey Aug 05 03:25:02 mkay well I can't seem to open my top-right drop-down either. could be something silly on my device, time to chase this down... Aug 05 03:25:07 destinal: hey! :) Aug 05 03:25:48 rrixsox: oh just the resulting luna has misc bugs and I'm trying to figure out what might cause them. most unexpected is the top-left portion of my screen is now a mostly-black bit of garbage Aug 05 03:25:53 dtzWill: how's it going? got builds of OWO LSM going or is this WOCE? Aug 05 03:26:02 aka looks like some manner of memory corruption or uninitalized data Aug 05 03:26:35 dtzWill, shit :( Aug 05 03:26:47 rrixsox: you've become a hybrid entity! Aug 05 03:26:51 dtzWill, that's what happened to me when I put that together Aug 05 03:27:12 destinal, borrowing tom's box Aug 05 03:27:23 rrixsox: :( well okay so at least someone else saw this, and it's unlikely device-specific then Aug 05 03:27:40 dtzWill: OWO LSM? Aug 05 03:27:45 destinal: WOCE Aug 05 03:27:46 sorry :) Aug 05 03:27:48 ah ok Aug 05 03:28:02 dtzWill, It was workin when I built it today :( Aug 05 03:28:25 rrixsox: errr was it working or not when you put tings together? Do you mean previously you saw this, but today you did not? Aug 05 03:29:57 dtzWill, I had that issue when i built 1.5wk ago Aug 05 03:30:01 but not today Aug 05 03:30:10 I think it has something to do with the order in which the merge happens Aug 05 03:30:58 dtzWill, pls push your stuff up to a branch on your github Aug 05 03:31:17 I will diff it against my code and see what is wrong Aug 05 03:31:20 er, different Aug 05 03:31:27 so I admit this is lazy of me since I could do the research myself, but is there a point to using vagrant? Aug 05 03:31:30 I can almost guarantee that git is munging the merge Aug 05 03:31:35 * destinal is a bit behind recent developments Aug 05 03:31:41 destinal, a standard build env that is the same for everyone Aug 05 03:32:31 dtzWill, we have to run and do stuff I'll be back shortly Aug 05 03:34:39 * destinal loves 11 megabyte per second downloads of virtualbox etc (and likes to brag about it) :) Aug 05 03:35:06 I think the main killer app for FiOS currently is bragging rights, really Aug 05 03:43:22 rrix, ka6sox-enyo: already in the merge_all branch on my fork: https://github.com/dtzWill/LunaSysMgr/tree/merge_all Aug 05 03:43:34 rrix: ty re:diff'ing that's a great idea Aug 05 03:44:34 well tweaks is complaining "configuration could not be saved since the service returned an error!" Aug 05 03:44:52 so I have a feeling that might be related :) Aug 05 03:46:29 my part of SystemUiController looks right Aug 05 03:47:20 yeah I have a very unhappy touchpad, haha. quite possibly PEBKAC :3 Aug 05 03:47:34 EricBlade1: great, good to hear and ty for checking :) Aug 05 03:48:09 trying to hit the 'shutdown' button (after holding power for a few seconds) resulted in me managing to interact with a brightness slider Aug 05 03:48:25 despite the top-right drop-down never actually appearing or being drawn. hehe. Aug 05 03:49:36 in Preferences.cpp you've got the sysUiEnableAppSwitchGestures twice though deep in the getPreferencesCallback function Aug 05 03:49:54 eek! Aug 05 03:50:06 Well, got a script now that I can run under 64-bit Ubuntu to build an extremely minimal 32-bit Ubuntu install in a chroot under it and install a OWO-LSM build environment to it. Inside the build environment is a script that downloads, builds, and installs it. Aug 05 03:50:09 Not fully 100% tested yet (haven't let the build finish) but you can try it out here if you want: https://github.com/tyrok1/luna-sysmgr-build-on-64bit Aug 05 03:50:12 one at 859 other at 889 Aug 05 03:50:27 ah that was merged automatically, bah Aug 05 03:50:49 okay well *fixy* Aug 05 03:50:56 Keep in mind that build/install script has to be run as root to work properly. Aug 05 03:51:37 EricBlade1: but that shouldn't /hurt/ anything right, just redundant? Aug 05 03:51:38 tyrok: so i take you weren't able to get it to build in 64-bit then? Aug 05 03:51:40 There are a few advantages to it over a VM - it can leverage the full processor power, RAM, and hard drive of the host environment. Very little overhead. But you still get a 32-bit environment. Aug 05 03:51:56 dtzWill: i wouldn't expect so. but you never know. Aug 05 03:52:18 EricBlade1: Nope. Need to have glib 64-bit and 32-bit coexist, which Ubuntu packages don't let you do, IIRC. Aug 05 03:52:29 EricBlade1: fair enough :) Aug 05 03:53:15 tyrok: well, i'm able to build luna-CE on the system Aug 05 03:53:22 so my guess is that it can be fixed Aug 05 03:53:39 EricBlade1: Except, IIRC, you're not having to build Qt for that. Aug 05 03:53:49 we do a qt build Aug 05 03:53:51 in CE Aug 05 03:53:54 don't we? Aug 05 03:54:09 Huh. I didn't think so. I don't think I ever actually got it to build, though. Aug 05 03:54:17 But I don't remember seeing it in the makefiles. Aug 05 03:55:55 At any rate, with that script, it should only take two commands to have OWO-LSM built and installed - one to run the script and one to run the build script it installs to the chroot. Aug 05 03:56:11 Once you install the 32-bit environment, it doesn't need to do it again, so the build script is separate. Aug 05 03:58:25 There's a .gitignore file in there now that excludes the 32-bit environment from your git clone, in case anyone wants to change something and commit back to the repo. Aug 05 03:59:52 rehi Aug 05 03:59:53 dtzWill: looking now Aug 05 04:01:29 Christ on a stick Aug 05 04:02:55 dtzWill: This is missing a patch Aug 05 04:03:23 lunaAnimations.conf is missing a bunch of stuff Aug 05 04:03:41 oh Aug 05 04:03:46 I'm in the wrong branch Aug 05 04:03:48 fuck me Aug 05 04:04:50 tyrok: awesome! Aug 05 04:05:40 destinal: Working for 'ya, then? Aug 05 04:05:59 * tyrok hasn't tested it a whole lot yet. :) Aug 05 04:07:01 Oh, one other caveat with that script: right now it only works on Ubuntu and probably Debian. It needs to be able to apt-get install debootstrap to work properly. Aug 05 04:07:10 dtzWill, PEBKAC only works if you have a keyboard connected, but PEBSAC just doesn't have the same ring to it :( Aug 05 04:07:20 tyrok: requires a linux host then though right? I'm on OSX so the vagrant thing probably works better for me at the moment :) Aug 05 04:07:33 tyrok, have you looked into multiarch? though I'm not sure if the current release of ubuntu supports it Aug 05 04:07:43 destinal: Yep. That's a major advantage of Vagrant. Aug 05 04:08:11 RagingMind: Yes, I took a look at that. The problem is that the dev package for glib cannot have the 64-bit and 32-bit versions coexisting on the same system. Aug 05 04:08:25 The libraries themselves - yeah, no problem. But the dev package doesn't work. Aug 05 04:08:38 ah Aug 05 04:09:24 Christ on a stick. Aug 05 04:09:32 as soon as I can afford it I think I'm going to buy a few Phenom II X6's and motherboards Aug 05 04:09:36 I've thought about playing with odd combinations with multiarch and qemu-user, but I've been too distracted to try. Aug 05 04:10:33 RagingMind: I have little doubt it'd work fine on Gentoo (which I usually use on this machine), but that comes with its own set of likely weirdness due to fewer people using it to build that. Aug 05 04:10:39 dtzWill: you around? Aug 05 04:10:45 rrix: kinda :). sup? Aug 05 04:10:57 RagingMind: Gentoo works great, but I expect there are probably some Ubuntu-specific things in the makefiles. Aug 05 04:11:06 dtzWill: Can you revert your merge of https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/pull/11 ? Aug 05 04:11:11 and test a build with that? Aug 05 04:11:56 rrix: sure Aug 05 04:12:06 I think I forgot to merge that one so :x Aug 05 04:14:06 I'm out for the night. See 'ya! Aug 05 04:14:31 tyrok: Good night! Aug 05 04:18:57 ok so this vagrant thing is actually pretty cool. I had an idea like this a long time ago re standardized git-hosted VM difs but they've implemented it really well Aug 05 04:19:25 Yup Aug 05 04:24:44 ArthurThronton! Aug 05 04:24:51 sucks Aug 05 04:24:53 EricBalde Aug 05 04:24:55 I mean.. what. Aug 05 04:25:14 Uh, Eric? I think you mean... Thornton :) Aug 05 04:25:16 rrix! Aug 05 04:25:23 ArthurThornton: yes, yes Aug 05 04:25:23 rirx* Aug 05 04:25:27 gigity gigity!!!! Aug 05 04:25:34 dkikrer! Aug 05 04:25:38 oh god Aug 05 04:25:40 hippies Aug 05 04:25:41 dirker Aug 05 04:25:43 i'm known for being able to type rather quickly considering im ostly only use four fingers for it, but i'm not known for accuracy Aug 05 04:25:44 they are everywhere Aug 05 04:25:52 halfahlo! Aug 05 04:25:53 hippies?! Aug 05 04:25:56 * EricBlade1 lets his hair down Aug 05 04:26:38 * dkirker pulls out a doobie Aug 05 04:26:46 *puff* *puff* *puff* Aug 05 04:26:47 * rrix pulls out a boobie Aug 05 04:26:53 rrix: yours? Aug 05 04:26:58 bah unable to get default luna to boot, whoopsy. doctor time. overdue anyway. Aug 05 04:27:06 dtzWill: ruh roh Aug 05 04:27:11 Sowwy :( Aug 05 04:27:19 doobie >> boobie Aug 05 04:27:25 NO Aug 05 04:27:26 WRONG Aug 05 04:27:31 YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK Aug 05 04:27:34 GOODBUY Aug 05 04:27:38 BESTBUY Aug 05 04:27:44 *goodbye Aug 05 04:27:53 we can go to best buy. Aug 05 04:27:55 GOODBUY AT BESTBUY Aug 05 04:27:59 it will end in tears Aug 05 04:28:01 halfhalo, it seems you are the weakest link :-P Aug 05 04:29:04 i saw a touchpad at a best buy about a month ago Aug 05 04:29:44 EricBlade1: sounds like a goodbuy Aug 05 04:29:46 * rrix ducks Aug 05 04:39:57 * rrix builds dtzWill's branch so he can fix his stuffs Aug 05 04:56:05 rrix: lmk how it goes! once my device is restored i'll poke at it also :) Aug 05 04:56:22 my device was in a bad state re:patches/theme manager beta/etc so it's possible I had something wonky on my end Aug 05 04:56:40 dtzWill: Take care of that, I'll round things up over here :) Aug 05 04:57:12 well at this point I'm just waiting for device to do its profile-restore thing, but ty :D Aug 05 04:57:38 don't think I've ever restored my touchpad before--the experience is pretty nice, got to pick which backup to copy and such :) Aug 05 04:57:54 hehe Aug 05 04:57:59 build is done Aug 05 04:58:05 * rrix install-all.sh Aug 05 04:59:08 rrix: is this install-all.sh avail somewhere? Might be good to install same way :) Aug 05 05:02:34 haha nooooo I have way too many garbage apps on my profile, this'll take forever :3 Aug 05 05:03:36 dtzWill: what's your build env? you in vagrant? Aug 05 05:03:39 my build worked fine Aug 05 05:03:48 :(* Aug 05 05:03:55 (my build of your code) Aug 05 05:04:22 rrix: not vagrant, stock woce. interesting. I'd go with "your device was fudged" over "your build env was bad" but I suppose we'll find out soon once I get my device good for dev again :) Aug 05 05:04:28 rrix: great to hear, though! :D Aug 05 05:04:34 dtzWill: Yeah, indeed :) Aug 05 05:04:49 if you guys have something i can push over to my dev pad, i can give it a look Aug 05 05:05:50 won just made a post that we should see a CE release in "a few weeks minimum" Aug 05 05:09:04 EricBlade1: dtzWill's merge_all branch Aug 05 05:09:26 got a binary? my builder is broke Aug 05 05:09:54 I can stick it up, hang on Aug 05 05:10:29 EricBlade1: what platform are you on primarily? Aug 05 05:10:53 i use windows, my CE was building on my ubuntu 64, and now i have a ubuntu 32 for building owos Aug 05 05:10:57 ok Aug 05 05:11:04 * rrix sticks it in a zip instead of tarball Aug 05 05:12:49 EricBlade1: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33831745/LSM-CE.zip Aug 05 05:13:02 404! Aug 05 05:13:14 what the shit "copy to dropbox and make public" menu item Aug 05 05:14:42 It's a private file, hang on :x Aug 05 05:14:48 I'm on halfhalo's shitty wifi :P Aug 05 05:15:36 shadup Aug 05 05:15:39 its not that bad Aug 05 05:15:41 well Aug 05 05:15:43 it is Aug 05 05:15:45 nevermind Aug 05 05:16:50 hi all. Aug 05 05:17:11 mornin dukie Aug 05 05:17:14 i'm having trouble with the the instructions for building widk Aug 05 05:17:42 morning EBlade Aug 05 05:17:52 widk? Aug 05 05:18:31 morning dukiedrew Aug 05 05:18:38 ~widk Aug 05 05:18:47 mornin' rrix Aug 05 05:18:53 is tyrok still awake? Aug 05 05:18:55 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK Aug 05 05:19:25 EricBlade1: no Aug 05 05:20:31 EricBlade1: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33831745/LSM-CE.zip ? Aug 05 05:20:38 i want to recompile some sdl apps to webos using pdk Aug 05 05:21:22 got it. let's do a tarball though if we need to do that again, if it's more than one file, k Aug 05 05:21:38 guess it doesn't matter, touchpad has unzip Aug 05 05:21:51 lol Aug 05 05:22:06 EricBlade1: I didn't know you were putting it right on the device :x Aug 05 05:22:15 it was a lot more effort for me to remember how to zipball :) Aug 05 05:22:32 k4ever: We're not really the folks for that, I'm not sure why Patrick|sleepy_A thought so :x Aug 05 05:22:44 k4ever: I would hang out in -internals, maybe wait for some of those folks to wake up Aug 05 05:22:51 i think patrick was trying to join this channel, not answer the question Aug 05 05:22:57 lol Aug 05 05:24:04 ok, see the post in the other channel chastising patrick for sending me here Aug 05 05:26:54 k4ever: in any case, the wipdk was built before the official pdk, you may have better luck with the official pdk Aug 05 05:27:02 rrix: is the version/code you were testing at the end of today located anywhere? Aug 05 05:27:04 you may not, though. i've never done any native stuff Aug 05 05:27:25 ok, first thing that i see, is that this LSM seems to be working ,at least as far as startup goes. Aug 05 05:27:27 dukiedrew: Its local, let me push it Aug 05 05:27:33 we're about to go grab foods Aug 05 05:27:39 does the official pdk run on linux? Aug 05 05:27:46 yeup Aug 05 05:27:50 I don't see the change applying the system name to the carrier banner, was that moved to a preference? Aug 05 05:27:52 it's included in the sdk Aug 05 05:27:59 i didn't update my json's because i can't remember the path Aug 05 05:28:47 heh Aug 05 05:28:56 EricBlade1: I'm not sure, maybe I missed a pull request? :x Aug 05 05:31:16 I just pushed my code to rrix:my_merge Aug 05 05:31:36 looks like it's working to me Aug 05 05:31:38 wow, guess i'm going to install the windows pdk and build my stuff there. wasted 4 hours trying to get pdk working on linux. not worth it Aug 05 05:32:06 except for infinite card cycling - that should allow me to go wraparound on the card list? Aug 05 05:32:15 k4ever: The PDK is included in the linux SDK Aug 05 05:32:35 EricBlade1: we need to play with dukiedrew's patches still, I'm going to do that when I get back from nomming Aug 05 05:32:49 where's nom? dennys? Aug 05 05:33:12 LOL Aug 05 05:33:17 cool. are there any instructions on how to build sdl apps with the official version? Aug 05 05:33:30 YES Aug 05 05:33:43 DENNYS Aug 05 05:33:45 AGAIN Aug 05 05:33:49 SECOND TIME TODAY Aug 05 05:33:58 where is Dennys? Aug 05 05:34:07 well Aug 05 05:34:16 people are yelling about dennys Aug 05 05:34:20 saying not again Aug 05 05:34:37 and yet they're discussing it Aug 05 05:34:40 its the dennys on mathilda near nokia Aug 05 05:34:41 lol Aug 05 05:35:36 if downtown MV let me know Aug 05 05:35:49 downtown sunnyvale Aug 05 05:35:56 which is where we are going Aug 05 05:35:59 apparently Aug 05 05:36:05 poor in n out :( Aug 05 05:36:15 or innout Aug 05 05:36:27 innout Aug 05 05:36:32 yum Aug 05 05:36:42 dukiedrew: meet us at innout Aug 05 05:36:55 el camino near grant? Aug 05 05:37:00 are they even open this late? Aug 05 05:37:06 they close at 01:30 Aug 05 05:37:12 ha Aug 05 05:37:42 yeah in n out rocks Aug 05 05:37:50 604 East El Camino Real Aug 05 05:38:49 * dukiedrew debates driving by one in n out to go to another in n out Aug 05 05:39:14 dukiedrew: clearly it matters where the people are lol Aug 05 05:39:49 ha, ok what time? Aug 05 05:39:50 now? Aug 05 05:40:03 yes! Aug 05 05:40:14 now Aug 05 05:40:30 fine Aug 05 05:40:30 very now.. Aug 05 05:40:34 ok well that blowed up EVERYTHING Aug 05 05:40:36 just kidding Aug 05 05:40:47 Donald's milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard Aug 05 05:40:53 i accidentally kicked my power switch Aug 05 05:41:05 aside from the infinite cards not working, what i do see worked Aug 05 05:41:13 * rrix hits ArthurThornton Aug 05 05:41:18 repeatedly Aug 05 05:41:19 TO THE BATMOBILE Aug 05 05:41:27 TO THE BUTMOBILE Aug 05 05:41:27 lol Aug 05 05:41:30 * rrix & Aug 05 05:42:28 something a little odd, is tapping aynwhere empty on the status bar brings up search Aug 05 05:42:38 EricBlade I downloaded rrix's merge and will take a looksee post I&O Aug 05 05:43:16 i wasn't expecting everything to play nice initially anyway Aug 05 05:43:40 i don't seem to have the problems with the gestures not getting picked up on my main pad, as i do on my dev pad, so it must be the screen protector Aug 05 05:43:52 (minor leap in logic there, but not insurmountable) Aug 05 05:44:26 EricBlade: yeah I remember with some tablets like nook color the sensitiviity had to be tweaked, if wrong a protector could stop touchscreen reads Aug 05 05:44:42 one of the android ports to NC had issues with it Aug 05 05:45:17 i've got a nice screen protector, one of the Zaggs on my main pad .. my dev pad has one that came in a 6-pack for half the price of what i paid for the zagg which was already half price Aug 05 05:46:15 Yea, I ordered a Zaggskin and an Invisible Shield for my new Pre 3 Aug 05 05:46:20 it should be coming in this week Aug 05 05:46:39 Zagg made stuff for the Pre3? o.O Aug 05 05:46:39 rrix: did you end up diff'ing our merge branches? (should be the same, right? modulo #11?) Aug 05 05:46:43 yep Aug 05 05:46:48 * dtzWill is catching up on missed backlog Aug 05 05:47:12 Someone brought his Pre3 into Zagg headquarters and said "Make me one" and they put it into production :D Aug 05 05:47:55 http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/hp-pre-3-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php Aug 05 05:48:20 ka6sox-enyo: hey, you're front page (WON) news Aug 05 05:48:23 You can't find it through their normal lookup, but you can find it through a google search, or through the zaggskin creator Aug 05 05:52:31 screen prot does show up in their regular search. hmm. i don't know if i want to spend $15 or $25 on it when i've already put about $20 into a generic case and prot Aug 05 05:53:37 lol. For me, my Zaggskin+Shield combo was really nice for my Droid 3, so I am now a Zagg-faithful Aug 05 05:54:08 but since I have heard about people breaking their Pre3's pretty easily through dropping, I will probably still look for some nice pouch for it Aug 05 05:54:42 :( for some reason unpack-doctor-rootfs seems to regularly crater my vagrant guest in OSX Aug 05 05:55:24 I picked up a $15 generic case on amazon that works pretty well. I'd like to have something like the custom Pre 2 cases for it, though. Since I dropped mine into a pile of dirt right after taking it out of the pouch, and it scuffed really bad Aug 05 05:56:06 oh lol, you were one of the "horror" stories I read :P Aug 05 05:56:38 although your post made it sound worse than scuffing, IIRC Aug 05 05:56:46 well ok it's not -really- bad, not as bad as the pre 2 did when it hit cement .. but i was a little surprised by the gouge just from dirt Aug 05 05:57:42 looks like this box is not up to building this :( Aug 05 06:13:44 hmm. i wonder if that JSON fix that I made during the phone work would have some effect on some things. i notice that the error that it fixes comes up on stock LSM frequently during synergy Aug 05 06:14:00 so i wonder if that would break stuff that is expecting the bug Aug 05 06:14:20 or if it would fix bugged stuff that isn't expecting it Aug 05 06:17:21 ah ok config.vm.boot_mode = :gui helps with troubleshooting the vagrant vm Aug 05 06:21:09 well anyways, I'm going to get some shuteye. See you guys later Aug 05 06:27:07 wow so getting ata1 errors in vbox on a virtual hard drive. that's... special Aug 05 06:28:15 also good night GodGinrai Aug 05 06:42:08 ty Aug 05 07:18:39 Hi Aug 05 07:20:38 EricBlade: I guess that Status Bar thing is a Feature Aug 05 07:21:19 ok, stupid VM actually building things now. not sure what was wrong with virtual IDE channel before, maybe this box couldn't keep up with IO on this little 5400RPM drive Aug 05 07:21:37 Or not Aug 05 07:21:41 lol Aug 05 07:21:48 rrix: not a feature? Aug 05 07:33:17 hmm Aug 05 07:33:34 this merge doesn't have tabbed cards Aug 05 07:33:37 well, guys, i gotta catch some zzz and i gotta work half the day again tomorrow .. so.. Aug 05 07:33:51 "my_merge" Aug 05 07:33:59 dukiedrew: the build that i got is also missing the inf loop card Aug 05 07:34:25 yeah Aug 05 07:34:28 that code is missing too Aug 05 07:34:39 also my .json files aren't in the /conf directory Aug 05 07:35:20 the sliding/app switching has a little bug in portrait mode Aug 05 07:35:22 i got the json for that .. but that might not've come from the merge Aug 05 07:35:29 oh? Aug 05 07:35:54 yeah, sometimes it renders funny on the last card Aug 05 07:36:25 i can't always re-create it, but it happens Aug 05 07:37:35 anyway, my conclusion is that my changes weren't merged into these changes Aug 05 07:38:05 hmm. in portrait it looks like sometimes the swipes get into the apps, too. i just deleted a couple of my emails while testing what you were saying Aug 05 07:38:24 i didn't see anything weird about rendering, other than that the apps briefly go to rounded corners before moving Aug 05 07:39:07 so i have two browser cards in a group Aug 05 07:39:18 and on the second swipe (generally) Aug 05 07:39:29 it is as if one card is rotated back in landscape view Aug 05 07:39:33 it corrects itself quickly, Aug 05 07:39:38 but it still renders funny for that second Aug 05 07:41:04 hmm. that might be something wrong more deeply in the system, considering i noticed something like that when in card view in portrait Aug 05 07:41:39 i believe it was when you unlock the device with a home button press, in portrait, whatever app is centered in the card view appears half-landscape-half-portrait, something like taht Aug 05 07:41:56 yeah, it isn't complete landscape Aug 05 07:41:58 maybe 2/3rd? Aug 05 07:42:30 i -think- i've seen that in 3.0.5, but at this point, it's been a month now since i've used 3.0.5 Aug 05 07:42:51 in any case, my guess is whatever does the snapshotting needs some help Aug 05 07:43:08 i don't normally use portrait, so not sure :) Aug 05 07:43:11 assuming that it does a snapshot on it rather than actually render the window into the space Aug 05 07:43:53 well if you happen to nail down a way to make it happen consistently, at least we can note it for future Aug 05 07:44:08 if i flick ~ ever second Aug 05 07:44:10 hopefully when i'm done working tomorrow, ya'all will ahve this organizational thing worked out :) Aug 05 07:44:13 it seems to happen consistently Aug 05 07:44:34 i've got to zzz though. gnight Aug 05 07:44:41 gnite Aug 05 07:52:07 two other things i noticed.. closing panels in spaz is rather difficult with the 15 px dead area, that dead area would prob kill the browser swipes patches, and .. umm.. oh yeah. launcher button is gone. Aug 05 07:53:05 moving items on the quicklaunch while card view is open messes with card view too. not sure if thats normal Aug 05 07:53:13 what is this 15px dead area? Aug 05 07:53:28 around the border? Aug 05 07:53:45 my launcher button is still here Aug 05 07:54:09 shifty said he made 15px arojnd the borders dead space to improve the apps receiving touches when swiping Aug 05 07:55:02 cool Aug 05 07:55:43 oh i see that problem now Aug 05 07:55:53 only since i turned on slide Aug 05 07:56:23 maybe coincidence. Aug 05 07:56:25 ok zzz Aug 05 08:02:47 dukiedrew: Yeah, remember that I couldn't get those working? :x Aug 05 08:02:56 We have work to do tomorrow Aug 05 08:02:57 oh they didn't build? Aug 05 08:03:04 They built but they didn't work Aug 05 08:03:10 crashed? Aug 05 08:03:55 i see no evidence of either in the code Aug 05 08:10:17 I didn't push it Aug 05 08:10:24 or maybe :x i'm so out of it :( Aug 05 08:11:11 :-\ Aug 05 08:11:23 yeah, anyway there is nothing in that merge Aug 05 08:11:27 prolly a reason it fails :) Aug 05 08:11:33 :P Aug 05 08:25:28 anything tonight? otherwise i'll head to bead Aug 05 08:25:28 bed* Aug 05 08:33:27 entao, boa noite! Aug 05 10:44:21 EricBlade1: You pinged me earlier? Aug 05 13:35:13 morning all Aug 05 13:47:31 Back online. Aug 05 13:48:04 Anybody need anything from me right now? Aug 05 16:42:38 looks like webOS Nation just posted a 'we've cooled down and now are being a bit reasonable about the lack of support for legacy hardware' article Aug 05 17:02:03 tyrok, like it... Aug 05 17:02:05 ShiftyAxel, that was an interesting 'article' Aug 05 17:02:46 indeed, did you do some sort of jedi mind trick on derek yesterday? Aug 05 17:03:57 a Good Jedi never reveals his sekrets. Aug 05 17:05:01 ShiftyAxel, the status bar search is nice....but causing some problems. Aug 05 17:18:57 morning dukiedrew Aug 05 17:19:07 mornin Aug 05 17:19:12 I stayed up too late.... Aug 05 17:19:17 ha Aug 05 17:20:02 walked into Charbucks today...looked @ the Brunette barista, and Ordered a Grande Brunette... Aug 05 17:20:15 rofl Aug 05 17:20:36 are you going to tell TammyK? Aug 05 17:22:15 haha Aug 05 17:22:41 hahaha was planning on it. think she'll wanna know why i burst out laughing xD Aug 05 17:23:02 :-\ Aug 05 17:23:07 oh well... Aug 05 17:25:10 rofl nah she thought it was hilarious too :) Aug 05 17:25:29 dtzWill, we played last night (well rrix really did) and believe that the issue is patch application order. Aug 05 17:25:45 but he wan't able to fully regress that. Aug 05 17:26:17 we also found an issue with status bar search (the whole top bar becomes search and we were triggering it falsely a lot) Aug 05 17:26:30 morning scoutcamper Aug 05 17:26:40 ka6sox: sure. NBD, this is all a replacement for the proper "pick any order, apply a patch, verify it works, move to next" (and resolve issues as you go) Aug 05 17:26:51 is that why my patches didnt' show up? Aug 05 17:27:17 dukiedrew, yes Aug 05 17:27:45 we also have an issue where yours and ericblade's interfere with each other. Aug 05 17:27:49 morning all Aug 05 17:27:55 so we are regressing that too. Aug 05 17:28:02 that's no surprise Aug 05 17:28:14 i assume the issue is in SysController Aug 05 17:29:16 and should be mendable Aug 05 17:30:10 * scoutcamper is in crecent city this foggy morning Aug 05 17:30:24 the headed to grants pass and down home :D Aug 05 17:30:59 ka6sox: moving TammyK outta her house today; next day or so packing up all my things and moving as well. Just heads up probably will be a bit MIA for a while, unfortunately. Aug 05 17:31:03 TYPICAL, I know :3 Aug 05 17:31:39 aha.. Aug 05 17:32:22 before you go...can we do 1 teensy thing? Aug 05 17:32:34 can you get it pooping out a ipkg Aug 05 17:32:41 we tried last night... Aug 05 17:32:43 but failed Aug 05 17:33:00 haha, should talk to your doc about that. Aug 05 17:33:01 one built from Master would be great..(a "recovery" version like our kernels) Aug 05 17:33:07 sure sure Aug 05 17:33:11 what didn't work? Aug 05 17:33:42 it was disabled...but we couldn't figure out where it was in the Makefile (didn't go back far enough in history) Aug 05 17:35:22 kk will take a look :) Aug 05 17:35:36 hmm, preferences appears to not work if accessed from StatusBar.cpp Aug 05 17:35:51 I'll make the search icon a group, like the notifications Aug 05 17:36:42 ka6sox: "make CONFIG=woce package" from luna-sysmgr directory is what's needed, although I needa poke the Makefile a tad to adjust for changes since then Aug 05 17:37:12 thanks Aug 05 18:00:02 ka6sox: pushed to woce-build, 'make CONFIG=woce package' should do the trick Aug 05 18:00:40 ka6sox: lemme know if you have any issues Aug 05 18:01:32 okay...thanks! Aug 05 18:06:50 hrm, looks like i may have to fudge a workaround for the status bar search, changing a group's properties on the fly doesn't seem doable in the current state of things Aug 05 18:08:00 ooooooookay Aug 05 18:08:19 looks like rrix is still zzzzzz Aug 05 18:08:54 dtzWill, did you push up a change? Aug 05 18:11:01 morning rrix Aug 05 18:11:15 (assuming its not just your client coming back) Aug 05 18:11:46 ka6sox: should've, yep Aug 05 18:13:21 ka6sox: status bar search fixed and pushed to github, now the icon is 48px wide Aug 05 18:13:41 ShiftyAxel, ty Aug 05 18:13:48 dtzWill, thanks! Aug 05 18:14:30 ka6sox: np, gl! ping me if you have issues, I'll resolve them at night as I can :). gl, can't wait to see this in preware! :D Aug 05 18:16:23 dtzWill, will do! Aug 05 18:19:35 mawning EricBlade Aug 05 18:24:31 Progress with OWO-LSM: I got it to build (using that build script I posted) but it crashes on start with "Failed to register handler: Function not implemented" for a function in luna-service2/src/transport_shm.c on line 120. Aug 05 18:24:37 Anyone know what would be causing that? Aug 05 18:25:38 Oh, I've got an idea. I didn't map /dev into the chroot. Let me try that a minute. Aug 05 18:28:02 Failed to open preferences db. Anyone have any experience with that? Aug 05 18:28:46 And does anyone have a log of it successfully starting? Aug 05 18:34:31 i could probably get one Aug 05 18:38:03 Ah...it doesn't like running as a regular user. Aug 05 18:38:30 For one, the /var/luna path doesn't exist (nor do the subdirectories). But past that, it's erroring out on sqlite. Aug 05 18:45:02 Ah. And now it can't connect to the host X server. Nevermind about the problem - it looks like it's related to the chroot environment. But if you can get me a log, that'd be great. Aug 05 18:50:45 sure, what do you want a log from? Aug 05 18:53:46 i run it as a regular user Aug 05 18:54:29 morning Aug 05 18:54:32 i don't know where the service bus stuff might log to Aug 05 18:55:34 what's the word, everyone? Aug 05 18:55:46 bird. Aug 05 18:56:05 hmm. my LSM doesn't work anymore, it starts up, and the big push button doesn't do anything now Aug 05 19:00:21 tyrok: here's my LSM log http://pastebin.com/DSBzwsWm Aug 05 19:10:21 that should help us locate where to put missing files too. although i think that they expect that it should go looking for some of those files in the user home rather than in /, it doesn't look like that currently happens Aug 05 19:14:36 tyrok: so my question that i wanted to ask if you were around earlier .. since you've spent some time comparing the two source codes .. it sounded like you were thinking that the majority of changes were related to switching from hal->nyx .. so, i was thinking, is it possible then, that the main point of CE, is so that we have the code that we can use to get owos running on at least the touchpad? Aug 05 19:15:05 assuming that we will in the near future actually be able to build a complete system Aug 05 19:16:31 and we've already seen that that can at least to some degree be used to at least get the screen and touchinput up on the pre series Aug 05 19:23:50 EricBlade, yes! the Word is the Bird! Aug 05 19:24:13 X_x Aug 05 19:34:17 aren't x's normally used for eyes on a face when it's representing a dead face? Aug 05 19:36:30 EricBlade, he's Dead and Confused Aug 05 19:37:46 i'm sick. and working. Aug 05 19:40:46 HaDAk, that isn't equivalent to what I just said? Aug 05 19:40:52 yes Aug 05 19:48:53 King was adamant that HP has been exceedingly supportive of their work with Community Edition; whenever they're having an issue, assistance from the appropriate person at HP is just a phone call away. Aug 05 19:48:58 so, we have this phone number, right? Aug 05 19:50:02 tom does Aug 05 19:50:20 all I have is an email address Aug 05 19:50:27 I'm guessing that's the way it's going to stay too :p Aug 05 19:50:38 * HaDAk shrugs Aug 05 19:50:44 as long as we have the resources we need Aug 05 19:50:49 even an email address is helpful. Aug 05 20:01:39 is rrix around? Aug 05 20:02:51 no Aug 05 20:03:09 hadak I'm out and about. sup? Aug 05 20:03:39 i'm looking at your enyo presentation built in enyoslides. i need to give a presentation at the ohio linux fest in a few weeks...wanted to bump heads with you and do my slides in enyoslides, since i'm not familiar with it at all Aug 05 20:05:51 sure, can we do it in a few hours? I need to write a readme anyway Aug 05 20:06:16 i'll be your guinnea pig. :) i'm at work till midnight, and believe me when i say that nobody fking calls tech support on sunday night Aug 05 20:11:28 you know, what would make me feel even better, rather than having a phone number or email address .. would be having Leo's phone number. Aug 05 20:13:38 i'd call it whenever i'm angry. Aug 05 20:13:56 i'd also give it to our angry teenager to call whenever he's angry. Aug 05 20:31:42 hah Aug 05 20:42:13 ha! Aug 05 20:43:02 I'd write it on the wall of every public toilet I could find Aug 05 20:43:15 LOL Aug 05 20:43:17 'hot chick, call me!' Aug 05 20:43:20 :D Aug 05 20:43:38 heh Aug 05 20:43:49 "call this number to trash a fortune 500 corp"? Aug 05 20:44:14 now now Aug 05 20:56:39 my VM finally finished compiling while I slept and I have ARM LSM binary Aug 05 20:57:08 need faster rig(s) Aug 05 20:57:35 pull again from woce-build for package Aug 05 20:58:31 ok done Aug 05 21:15:01 EricBlade: To answer your earlier question: yes, it should be very possible from what I've seen. All you'd need to do is build a Nyx->HAL compatibility layer (trivial - the calls are almost the same) and you'd be good to go. Aug 05 21:16:10 I've seen two other changes other than HAL->Nyx: a bunch of things have moved from stdlib string types to QString types and there's some new type of sensor in the Host stuff that we shouldn't need to (or be able to) support. From what I remember it was optional to support it anyway. Aug 05 21:16:15 tyrok: so, therefore, it might be possible, to build nyx modules that talk to the touchpad's hal modules, build owos for ARM, ??? - profit Aug 05 21:16:25 Oh, sure. Easy. Aug 05 21:16:53 The Nyx API is basically just a HAL-independent translation layer for the calls that formerly went to HAL, from what I've seen. Aug 05 21:17:21 They might *still* go to HAL internally. I don't know. But I'd think that'd be the easiest way to do it. Aug 05 21:17:33 I think that HAL is deprecated Aug 05 21:17:53 Yep. Which is why Nyx was developed - so they can use the same API calls but put it on top of something else. Aug 05 21:18:09 Let me find an example a minute... Aug 05 21:19:01 Compare these two files: https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/blob/master/Src/hal/HalInputControl.cpp https://github.com/openwebos/luna-sysmgr/blob/master/Src/nyx/NyxInputControl.cpp Aug 05 21:19:39 Also compare these two: https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/blob/master/Src/hal/HALSensorConnector.cpp https://github.com/openwebos/luna-sysmgr/blob/master/Src/nyx/NyxSensorConnector.cpp Aug 05 21:32:18 nooooooo Aug 05 21:32:21 oh wait... Aug 05 21:32:23 I'm still here Aug 05 21:34:17 lies Aug 05 21:36:51 hi drew Aug 05 21:44:25 hi Aug 05 21:51:21 dtzWill: Thanks for the packaging bits, things look like they're doing well Aug 05 22:00:08 except it doesn't output a real ipk (or we can't find it) Aug 05 22:02:35 verifying that right now Aug 05 22:04:57 Can someone take a gander at this and see if I'm missing something? https://github.com/rrix/woce-build/tree/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr Aug 05 22:12:33 rrix: looks like there's a big build-shaped hole there Aug 05 22:16:54 ShiftyAxel: it builds Aug 05 22:16:59 Isn't packaging Aug 05 22:18:24 It's trying to sign the package with the wosi key Aug 05 22:18:33 er wosp key Aug 05 22:19:31 BAM SHAMALAM Aug 05 22:24:22 SKADOOSH Aug 05 22:25:03 wat Aug 05 22:27:54 Okay, so I just got OWO-LSM to run after much finagling. Just a black screen with a button and a simulated gesture bar at the bottom. When I click the button, it segfaults. This sounds familiar. Who solved this, and how? Aug 05 22:42:42 tyrok: you need to copy the appinfo.json from the desktop-support dir to umm.. somewhere in /usr/lib/luna ... i'll have to boot my VM to locate that though Aug 05 22:43:40 EricBlade: When you get a chance, if you could, that'd be great. Aug 05 22:44:02 usr/lib/luna/system/luna-applauncher Aug 05 22:44:02 * ShiftyAxel is booting his vm as he types this Aug 05 22:44:40 ah, already in hand Aug 05 22:44:47 EricBlade: Awesome. Thanks! Aug 05 22:48:09 so, what's the status for getting a woce release? Aug 05 22:49:07 rrix, ka6sox: any luck with the packaging? Aug 05 22:49:23 ShiftyAxel: Working on it right now Aug 05 22:50:44 ShiftyAxel, all bad :D Aug 05 22:50:47 (J/K) Aug 05 22:50:56 \o/ Aug 05 22:55:09 *facepalm* I just deleted my updated build script that worked great. Aug 05 23:01:01 EricBlade: Copying desktop-support/appinfo.json to /usr/lib/luna/system/luna-applauncher/appinfo.json did not seem to do anything. Aug 05 23:02:23 Also, I ended up having to make /usr/lib/luna/system/luna-applauncher, since /usr/lib/luna did not exist. Aug 05 23:04:10 EricBlade, ShiftyAxel: Any other pointers on where to copy it to? Aug 05 23:04:45 worked here. try restarting the service and the luna ? Aug 05 23:04:54 Did it before starting them. Aug 05 23:05:15 worked here too, so your hierarchy looks like /usr/lib/luna/system/luna-applauncher/appinfo.json? Aug 05 23:05:25 Yep. Aug 05 23:05:51 also, you mentioned that your luna is a black screen? that sounds odd, mine's a grey BG with a black statusbar & white/grey gesture area Aug 05 23:05:52 ] Aug 05 23:06:07 Oh, correction: it no longer segfaults. But I get black. Aug 05 23:06:48 mine turns black after pushing the button Aug 05 23:06:55 it used to show the launcher. i have changed absolutely nothing Aug 05 23:06:58 O_o Aug 05 23:07:23 Mine just displays black with a button in a simulated gesture area at the bottom of the window. Aug 05 23:07:26 has anyone checked the code for a time-delay blackscreen trigger that precedes it becoming self-aware and taking over the world? Aug 05 23:07:57 before it takes over the world, it must locate and kill Sarah Connor Aug 05 23:08:08 Hmmm...this could be a hint: "Service not listed in service files: "com.palm.display"..." Aug 05 23:08:19 i get that Aug 05 23:08:27 There's more where the ellipsis is, but it seems irrelevant. Aug 05 23:09:02 i also get errors like that Aug 05 23:09:22 but mine worked… just booting again now to see if mine's about to 'execute user' Aug 05 23:10:29 Huh...so it can't mount cryptofs, so it can't find apps. That's quite interesting... Aug 05 23:11:03 "Failed to launch System UI application" Aug 05 23:12:17 Dunno. It mostly looks pretty similar to EricBlade's log (thanks for posting that, by the way). Aug 05 23:12:57 when i startup, i get a black status bar with an ugly clock, a grey screen, and a white toucharea/home button Aug 05 23:13:36 tapping the home button switches me to an all black screen, with the date in the center of the status bar Aug 05 23:13:49 and then it appears frozen Aug 05 23:14:10 okay wtf Aug 05 23:14:14 where did my launcher go Aug 05 23:14:16 srsly Aug 05 23:14:25 mine also does the blackscreen thing now Aug 05 23:14:26 hmm. just started it lke a 3rd or fourth time and now it's going Aug 05 23:14:33 how am I supposed to know? Aug 05 23:14:35 WELL YA BETTER GO CATCH IT Aug 05 23:14:37 oh Aug 05 23:14:39 wrong joke Aug 05 23:14:57 catch the laun-cher, catch the laun-cher Aug 05 23:15:01 i wonder if the system service is busy doing something that isn't ready to go Aug 05 23:15:04 I get no clock. It's pretty much just the gesture area with black above it. Aug 05 23:15:05 now it is working though Aug 05 23:15:08 lawn-chair? Aug 05 23:15:29 yeah, mine too Aug 05 23:15:36 restarted it and it works fine Aug 05 23:15:55 *whines* how do we put apps in it though o.O Aug 05 23:16:02 Have to get cryptofs up and running. Aug 05 23:16:15 Right now it's looking for a program called "mountcfs" which it can't find. Aug 05 23:16:58 * tyrok is trying the new-and-improved-and-largely-rewritten-from-memory build script. Aug 05 23:22:02 If it works properly, you'll be able to run OWO-LSM with three commands: one to run the utility script to set up the chroot, one to build OWO-LSM, and one to run. They could all be combined into one command, but I figure people will probably want to run certain steps over again later. Aug 05 23:24:27 ka6sox, rrix: how goes the packaging? :) Aug 05 23:24:37 dtzWill: working oout the last snags, I think Aug 05 23:24:45 I had to munge the old LSM on here Aug 05 23:26:36 rrix: err, do you mean use LSM w/o all the new features? And y'all need help with anything (mostly just sorting out the ipk scripts and such?)? :) Aug 05 23:26:59 dtzWill: I'm just getting back to a sane and standard build env Aug 05 23:27:06 haha kk Aug 05 23:28:48 dtzWill: I had to fix a few minor things in the packaging scrips, can you take a sanity check on https://github.com/rrix/woce-build/tree/master/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr Aug 05 23:29:16 Shit, I accidentiallied my custom.mk in to the repo :x Aug 05 23:29:50 rrix: the postinst is executed by LSM Aug 05 23:30:04 dtzWill: yup Aug 05 23:30:06 rrix: so we can't replace LSM from a script being executed by LSM; can't replace a binary while it's currently being executed Aug 05 23:30:21 ka6sox said that daemonizing it would fix that Aug 05 23:30:30 rrix: oh, so the fork + stop luna ..works? :/ Aug 05 23:30:38 I guess? :) Aug 05 23:31:18 idk, ka6sox said we should do it htat way, and not during a reboot Aug 05 23:31:40 Also, we need to delete the old passcode when we uninstall LSM-CE Aug 05 23:31:48 since the hashing is different Aug 05 23:32:45 I'm about to try the ipk with a fresh build, and phated is doctoring a brand new TP for us to play with Aug 05 23:33:24 great. I have my freshly doctored TP as well :) Aug 05 23:33:29 good call re:nuking passcode Aug 05 23:33:52 Only realized it when I uninstalled the CE five minutes ago ;) Aug 05 23:36:09 dtzWill, look @ what rrix did... Aug 05 23:36:26 ka6sox: will do, with feedback in a sec :) Aug 05 23:36:32 in case I messed tht up. Aug 05 23:36:34 kk Aug 05 23:36:35 ka6sox: have you tested that we can stop luna from a process forked like that? Aug 05 23:36:36 tahnks! Aug 05 23:37:13 (won't end up killing us since we're child processes?) Aug 05 23:37:47 with the & we don't die Aug 05 23:37:51 It's not a child when you bg Aug 05 23:37:55 right Aug 05 23:38:02 its its *own* facility Aug 05 23:38:22 sorry...process Aug 05 23:39:45 mmkay. gets orphaned and reparented to init, then? It's certainly a child process at the point of the fork/bg... Aug 05 23:40:05 anyway if that works, great. Just wasn't sure that would work cleanly, glad it does :) Aug 05 23:45:55 looks like rrix found it Aug 05 23:46:52 dtzWill: your shell scripts were invalid ;) <3 Aug 05 23:46:56 missing thens in the ifs Aug 05 23:47:06 didn't notice until I tried to remove the package and the prerm failed Aug 05 23:47:22 rrix: was wondering about that. to be clear the scripts right now are garbage and should be rewritten probably Aug 05 23:47:23 lol Aug 05 23:47:40 but glad you're checking them Aug 05 23:47:49 dtzWill: They 'work' right now Aug 05 23:47:53 Theoretically Aug 05 23:47:55 rrix: push to your repo? Aug 05 23:47:56 doing a new build right now Aug 05 23:48:00 for manual values of "work" Aug 05 23:48:01 dtzWill: int he midst of it Aug 05 23:48:13 rrix: because last time I checked misc things needed cleaning, but you might've fixed those since (and regardless more eyes is good on thes things :)) Aug 05 23:48:20 sorry if I had bad scripts, dunno how that happened Aug 05 23:49:30 dtzWill: restart is working Aug 05 23:49:36 which means copy is working Aug 05 23:49:50 dtzWill: no worries, dude Aug 05 23:49:53 rrix: good to hear :) Aug 05 23:51:18 Does it blend? Aug 05 23:51:27 rrix: ping me when you've pushed please :) Aug 05 23:53:21 (or is what's already pushed suitable for looking at?) Aug 06 00:03:42 * EricBlade sticks his head in from day job work .. how goes Aug 06 00:10:43 hmm Aug 06 00:11:11 dtzWill: This postinst script isn't properly working Aug 06 00:11:36 ka6sox is going to try to do the move in the upstart LSM start event Aug 06 00:15:38 dtzWill, the issue is that we need to have it do the swap when we start it. Aug 06 00:15:52 that would make it much easier and make it act like a "patch" Aug 06 00:33:34 * HaDAk pokes his head in Aug 06 00:34:32 * HaDAk looks around Aug 06 00:34:47 * HaDAk scampers off Aug 06 00:38:13 ka6sox: i like that quite a bit better Aug 06 00:39:50 if we felt like it could just leave the original alone and start the alternate instead Aug 06 00:41:28 rrix: I have comments/things that need fixing, but want to know what latest is before doing so. is your github repo updated, then? Aug 06 00:41:36 No Aug 06 00:41:45 We're moving away from replace.sh and to an event.d script right now Aug 06 00:43:13 rrix: okay, well glhf :) Aug 06 00:43:17 :) Aug 06 00:43:25 I'm doing this on my main terblet, too Aug 06 00:43:25 hah! Aug 06 00:43:59 i'm off to get some rest, nn all! Aug 06 00:44:07 ShiftyAxel: 'night! Aug 06 00:49:39 rrix: was meaning to ask you, what's the best place to jump in and start helping on this stuff? I was up to date but was away for a while. just yesterday, got caught up with pulling down the vagrant box and getting a WOCE LSM built Aug 06 00:50:13 yer main terblet? ermahgerd! Aug 06 00:50:31 well.... Aug 06 00:50:35 can I answer that? Aug 06 00:50:42 ka6sox: ah you're here! Aug 06 00:50:45 yes of course Aug 06 00:53:43 we need 3 people to test the build when we get done with fixing things (in about 10-15 minutes) Aug 06 00:55:31 ka6sox: so I guess that's the first thing, I should doctor my dev TP with latest doctor. do you mean manually copying over built binaries or test an ipk? Aug 06 00:56:12 nope Aug 06 00:56:18 build and install an IPK Aug 06 00:56:22 from the repos Aug 06 00:56:22 ah kk Aug 06 00:56:46 it has to pass the 3 person sucessfully build and install/run test. Aug 06 01:06:07 dtzWill, once we get this back to you can you test? Aug 06 01:06:19 then pull into woce-build if you are happy with that? Aug 06 01:06:51 ka6sox: sounds good! Aug 06 01:07:03 my moving break will be over a bit, but will be on later tonight :) Aug 06 01:07:10 okay Aug 06 01:08:16 we need to generate the packages.gz as well. Aug 06 01:08:42 ka6sox: we can certainly do that as a one-off, right? (and regardlss, ipkg-utils or something has a script for that, right?) Aug 06 01:09:08 will probably need to look in build.git for that in support.mk Aug 06 01:09:09 'ipkg-make-index' sounds promising :) Aug 06 01:09:15 yup Aug 06 01:17:09 brb Aug 06 01:22:53 I can help with the feed Aug 06 01:22:59 thanks... Aug 06 01:23:24 * rwhitby bbl Aug 06 01:27:14 ka6sox, im home, ready able and willing to test, if i go away send me a txt and ill hop in a test away :D Aug 06 01:33:54 back in a few hrs Aug 06 01:38:28 on a random note, am I alone in thinking that the touchpad bluetooth keyboard is pretty awesome re keypress feel? Aug 06 01:38:42 only wish the thing had an escape key :P Aug 06 01:42:01 the bt keyboard is fantastic Aug 06 02:05:35 neat. works well on mbp too Aug 06 02:05:54 * destinal is doctoring dev tp Aug 06 02:13:51 hey shifty here? i got some issues with the sliding, in actual use Aug 06 02:14:40 im typing, and sometimes i go to hit space, and it upswipes, or i hit backspace and it right-swipes Aug 06 02:15:52 other than that i really like the improved feel of it.. but i wonder if theres anything we can do more to protect against accidental triggers Aug 06 02:17:46 ShiftyAxel|Away, is asleep Aug 06 02:19:53 EricBlade-TP: Re: your issue you filed against OWO-LSM: I thought you got it to build okay already? Aug 06 02:20:17 i did build it i was filing a bug report Aug 06 02:20:45 Mentions you're waiting for a working build system to be able to issue a pull request for a fix. Aug 06 02:21:07 Figured "well, geez, if that's all you're waiting for, give my script a try and see if it doesn't destroy something". :) Aug 06 02:21:13 oh, yeah, i have it tucked away in a vm seperate from everything else Aug 06 02:22:09 Just pushed a new version of it, by the way. Still testing it, but I wanted to make sure I saved my progress in case I accidentally delete it again like earlier today when I had it pretty much working. Aug 06 02:23:57 heh oopw Aug 06 02:23:59 *s Aug 06 02:24:25 Yeah. Rather than delete the chroot so I could have it try building it again, I deleted the script. Major facepalm. Aug 06 02:25:03 And it was working great before I did it, too. I think I've got it all rebuilt now. It's running the chroot build right now so I can test it. Aug 06 02:25:11 yea i dont know exactly how i want to approach this, since i dont really have any ideas how to fix the qt build to work, i may go with your script, or just use a seperate vm since i already have it Aug 06 02:26:24 The advantage of the script, since it builds in a chroot rather than under visualization, is that it can leverage the full power of your computer for compiling. Aug 06 02:27:09 yeah i noticed that the 32 bit vm is obv slower than the 64 bit vm Aug 06 02:28:41 Essentially with this you're creating a filesystem within a filesystem and installing native Ubuntu onto it. After that, you switch your terminal's root directory to be within that new filesystem and you start running the 32-bit Ubuntu userland on your 64-bit kernel, all while your normal 64-bit userland's also still active. Aug 06 02:28:52 Same way I run Debian on my Pre 2. Works great. Aug 06 02:30:16 Doesn't speed up your downloads any, unfortunately. Even with it compiling fast, that still takes a sizable chunk of time. :) Aug 06 02:32:58 Just out of curiosity, I ought to time this. The build process started around 2:20am UTC. Aug 06 02:34:15 That's from nothing. It's already got the chroot built and is building Qt. Aug 06 02:37:56 any #woce merge news? Aug 06 02:38:56 rrix: Ping **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 06 02:59:58 2012