**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 14 02:59:59 2012 Aug 14 03:41:25 EricBlade1, is it fixed? Aug 14 03:47:42 * ka6sox awaits the word. Aug 14 04:10:31 LunaCE 4.2.0 released Aug 14 04:10:59 that fixes the huge lag when switching between cards while swiping from the side? Aug 14 04:11:48 Try it and let us know :) Aug 14 04:12:04 just started preware Aug 14 04:12:15 * HaDAk is fking awesome at breaking things/testing Aug 14 04:12:43 also, i approve (and agree with the community) on the LunaCE name change Aug 14 04:14:26 also, i've managed to emulate the notification style pretty well in photoshop. if somebody wants it to mock up designs, i'm happy to provide the psd. http://localhostr.com/files/m7ONvoS/Untitled-2.psd%20%20200%20Layer%201%20RGB8%20.png Aug 14 04:15:15 the overlapping search icon wasn't fixed, was it? Aug 14 04:15:59 btw, the card switching is noticably less laggy Aug 14 04:18:08 and, my $0.02 here... when you have no cards visible, or your cards are in card view and you can see the just type pill, the title bar just type icon should hide itself. it's busy with two search icons next to each other. Aug 14 04:20:59 4.2.0 - so far so good! Aug 14 04:21:31 thats 5 releases in 2days? Aug 14 04:21:52 4 Aug 14 04:22:05 + Palm Recovery Aug 14 04:22:10 so thats 5 Aug 14 04:22:16 + preware...thats 6 Aug 14 04:22:29 santa is coming early Aug 14 04:24:15 ho ho ho Aug 14 04:24:24 whatchu call me? Aug 14 04:24:30 santa Aug 14 04:26:27 may have spoken too soon - any reported issue w/ f15c kernel? I just had an almost immediate lockup. Aug 14 04:27:11 should be independent of the kernel Aug 14 04:27:31 FYI: http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/317458-webos-internals-web-thon-o-love.html Aug 14 04:28:51 f15c as nothing to do with this. Aug 14 04:29:05 however...if you OC to 3X normal...YMMV Aug 14 04:29:10 I'm gonna try dropping back. Aug 14 04:29:27 woosh! Aug 14 04:30:05 ...3x? really? Aug 14 04:30:33 kayphoonstar_ does particle physics rendering on his touchpad in its freetime. Aug 14 04:30:45 clearly. Aug 14 04:30:54 should try fluid dynamics simulations Aug 14 04:30:58 @ 3x the speed! Aug 14 04:31:07 * HaDAk chewed up his Q9550's cpu for a week rendering 15 seconds of fluid dynamics Aug 14 04:31:51 the guys I know who do CFD see the A/C bill go tbru the roof during a run.... Aug 14 04:33:12 i may still have a video of the render i did Aug 14 04:34:52 back to stock Aug 14 04:35:13 * HaDAk uploads his render Aug 14 04:39:55 http://localhostr.com/files/RT9V9LL/fountain%20test.avi Aug 14 04:40:11 http://localhostr.com/files/4OYqn5e/fountain%20render%20test%201.png Aug 14 04:40:14 fluid dynamics are fun! Aug 14 05:16:07 ok, who broke the keyboard? Aug 14 05:16:48 * halfhalo didn't Aug 14 05:16:51 for once Aug 14 05:17:04 smilies don't work Aug 14 05:18:03 now that's a show stopper right there ;) Aug 14 05:18:34 :P Aug 14 05:21:32 have any of the webos ports team seen my post from several hours ago about my problems with bluetooth and exhibition when i installed 4.1.1? Aug 14 05:24:52 lagoldste: have you moved up to 4.2.0? Aug 14 05:25:09 not yet. i will when i get home. Aug 14 05:26:29 4.2.0 is pretty good Aug 14 05:26:39 which it's time for me to do, before the husband starts grumping at me. i'll comment on how i do with 4.2.0 probably in a couple of hours Aug 14 05:26:57 I don't think I'm supposed to speculate, but which kernel are you using? Aug 14 05:27:09 i was surprised when i couldn't turn Bluetooth on. oh, uberkernel Aug 14 05:27:12 oops Aug 14 05:27:26 thanx. Aug 14 05:27:32 been using it for ages :) Aug 14 05:27:55 I have uberkernel with lunace 4.2.0 and my by works perfectly Aug 14 05:28:09 Luna shouldn't affect bt at all Aug 14 05:28:20 i know. hence my surprise Aug 14 05:29:09 i don't think it was the radio driver itself that was affected, though. i was not able to move the slider switch in the bt settings app Aug 14 05:29:10 its prob coincidence Aug 14 05:29:33 lagoldste: I just paired a phone with a TouchPad running LunaCE 4.2.0 Aug 14 05:29:36 I turned mine on via the system menu Aug 14 05:29:49 rwhitby: me too Aug 14 05:29:56 me 3 Aug 14 05:30:05 and 3 is the magic number Aug 14 05:30:07 :D Aug 14 05:30:11 heh Aug 14 05:30:18 I wish the paired icon was blue instead of gray Aug 14 05:30:34 as i said, i'll try it again in a bit :) Aug 14 05:30:41 * lagoldste waves and vanishess Aug 14 05:30:45 I know gray matches and all, but it looks grayed out Aug 14 05:31:00 imma pay my bill and go cause trouble. bbl Aug 14 05:31:10 HaDAk-TP: that's likely something you could send a pull request for ... Aug 14 05:31:41 my thoughts exactly rwhitby Aug 14 05:35:03 congrats to all involved for getting lunaCE out the door in alpha form Aug 14 05:36:45 true dat Aug 14 05:41:14 ok. bored with stock kernel. going to UK. Aug 14 05:47:27 destinal, who? what? Aug 14 05:51:57 destinal: pure lunacy Aug 14 05:56:32 Hey webos hackers ... how goes it? Aug 14 05:58:08 it goes Aug 14 05:58:27 That's better than the alternative I guess Aug 14 05:58:50 depends on what goes Aug 14 06:00:05 Good point Aug 14 06:00:12 so what version of LunaCE are you using? Aug 14 06:01:21 I'm using no version ... still on stock 3.0.5. I'm interested in installing but I hate to lose my custom keyboard layout Aug 14 06:05:01 So for now I'm just lurking and looking to learn Aug 14 06:08:27 anybody else seen any lockups? Aug 14 06:11:26 I was hoping to get my layout incorporated into the standard patch ... I think it's a good general use keyboard. Is that possible? Aug 14 06:12:34 I hope so - the keyboard is sorely missed. Aug 14 06:13:44 but i'm getting pretty used to swiping cards! Aug 14 06:13:48 I can send a JSON file of the layout ... but who would I send it to? Aug 14 06:18:29 Zahid Aug 14 06:19:18 sign up for an account with github..or if you aren't github friendly...then sign up for an account on issues.webos-ports.org and submit a "bug report" with your json file Aug 14 06:19:29 Got it Aug 14 06:21:21 I'm not Aug 14 06:21:35 github friendly but I'll learn Aug 14 06:26:14 okay you can checkout the patches that mansanderssen posted with keyboards in them Aug 14 06:26:23 use them as tempaltes Aug 14 06:26:25 templates Aug 14 06:27:01 come back here if you can't find them and someone will point them out Aug 14 06:28:35 * ka6sox-away wanders off to bed...nn all! Aug 14 06:55:15 no more lost pre-filled fields! Aug 14 07:36:09 well yay- the problems i was having earlier do seem to be gone in 4.2.0 :) Aug 14 07:37:52 'night Aug 14 11:16:07 hmm. why did i get french and german keyboards added to my defaults after installing 4.2? Aug 14 12:25:18 morning all Aug 14 16:35:37 Of course shifty logs off when I get on Aug 14 16:53:06 * rrix tickles LarrySteeze|Cell Aug 14 16:53:11 morning btw Aug 14 16:54:31 LarrySteeze|Cell: I blame my crappy sky router Aug 14 16:54:55 you're supposed to blame halfhalo Aug 14 16:57:01 Haha Aug 14 16:57:27 I actually blame dkirker Aug 14 16:57:45 And no tickling! Aug 14 16:57:52 no tickling? What? :( Aug 14 16:58:04 the tickling was just to get your attention, I yearn for it Aug 14 16:58:15 It's only allowed for folk in Arizona Aug 14 16:58:23 but, I'm in Arizona! Aug 14 16:58:30 * ka6sox-farfarawa thinks this is waaaay out in the weeds :D Aug 14 16:58:32 Crap. Aug 14 16:58:44 he he Aug 14 16:59:09 I'm trying to figure out why znc is showing my main nick as online Aug 14 16:59:35 Maybe I forgot to close xchat at home Aug 14 17:00:21 * rrix home arrow hackerspace Aug 14 17:00:44 So has this channel been pretty quiet today? Aug 14 17:01:48 thankfully Aug 14 17:02:00 Hrh Aug 14 17:02:04 Err heh Aug 14 17:02:22 Auto correct only works when I don't want it to Aug 14 17:02:46 yup Aug 14 17:04:49 i blame halfhalo… what? Aug 14 17:13:48 I blame rrix for shifty blaming halfhalo Aug 14 17:40:19 * dkirker barfs Aug 14 17:40:28 the var partition on my Pre3 filled up Aug 14 17:40:31 nothing works.... Aug 14 17:40:34 hah Aug 14 17:40:38 now I must resize it Aug 14 17:40:40 hahahahahahahahahah Aug 14 17:41:25 I need to teach whomever designed the partition layout a thing or two about using partitions Aug 14 17:42:23 something to put on the list for OWO? ;) Aug 14 17:43:56 yeah Aug 14 17:44:16 problem here is that in the 16Gb webOS devices, that 16Gb is for user data AND OS partitions... Aug 14 17:44:32 they should have put a 16GB and 8GB chip in Aug 14 17:44:41 or 16GB and 4GB chip Aug 14 17:44:48 16 for storage, 4 for OS Aug 14 17:45:14 shit, palm ran into this issue on PalmOS devices Aug 14 17:46:07 any idea how other mobile OSes deal with it? Aug 14 17:48:58 also could the current setup have any bearing on the whole 'slowdown over time' issue? Aug 14 17:49:50 possibly Aug 14 17:50:00 depends on the partition that fills up Aug 14 17:50:08 for me, it was /var Aug 14 17:50:13 which meant that launching apps would fail Aug 14 17:50:21 or they'd launch, but not load things Aug 14 17:50:31 I'm not sure how Android deals with it Aug 14 17:50:33 or iOS Aug 14 17:51:59 there really should be some sort of failsafe to prevent it filling up... Aug 14 17:53:25 yeah Aug 14 17:53:30 I'm not sure what the culprit is Aug 14 17:53:36 I am just giving more space to it for now Aug 14 17:53:45 if this resize operation will complete.... Aug 14 17:53:50 it is at 100% Aug 14 17:53:52 :/ Aug 14 17:54:36 hm.. Aug 14 17:54:46 that does not sound good Aug 14 17:54:59 resizefat -v /dev/mapper/store-media 11198M Aug 14 18:13:35 dkirker: yours booted? Aug 14 18:13:45 my pre2 failed to boot when /var filled up Aug 14 18:13:51 non-flashing hp logo Aug 14 18:14:29 yeah Aug 14 18:14:31 it works Aug 14 18:14:36 just things were screwy Aug 14 18:14:54 did you guys do anything odd that helped it fill, or should I worry about this eventually happening to my pre3? Aug 14 18:15:22 well... I installed dkirker's software, that didn't help ;) Aug 14 18:15:24 just heavy device use Aug 14 18:15:32 universe's history was using a whole 1MB Aug 14 18:15:51 yeah Aug 14 18:15:57 just clear history ;) Aug 14 18:16:03 I need to make things better Aug 14 18:16:12 let's see... iirc, there was also 220kb/jail Aug 14 18:16:36 so I removed a few of those Aug 14 18:16:42 the big culprit is this /var/mft thing Aug 14 18:16:50 should I increase my var as a preventative measure? Aug 14 18:17:03 And we're back in business bitches!!! Aug 14 18:17:04 :D Aug 14 18:17:06 24M on this oh-so-large 62M fs Aug 14 18:17:09 GodGinrai: YES Aug 14 18:17:15 reckon it would be possible to re-do the existing partition setup, make it work better in a way we could release? Aug 14 18:17:22 I increased mine to 128Mb Aug 14 18:17:24 metadoctors Aug 14 18:17:33 ShiftyAxel: yeah Aug 14 18:17:40 how do I do it? Tailor? Aug 14 18:17:46 also, all of this resizing can be done online Aug 14 18:17:54 GodGinrai: I used the command line Aug 14 18:18:09 I reckon webOS CE could use a partition infrastructure upgrade Aug 14 18:18:30 I am planning (I know I keep saying this!) to implement /var, /var/db, and /var/file-cache resize support to Tailor. Aug 14 18:19:21 dkirker: I may bug you later when I am off work for help doing this. Aug 14 18:19:23 that sounds useful Aug 14 18:19:40 GodGinrai: Sure. I have most of the commands written down Aug 14 18:19:46 shit, I just need time Aug 14 18:19:49 i think an improved default that could be easily delivered to users would be good too, if doable Aug 14 18:19:58 work had me up until 2a/3a... and I slept until about 10 Aug 14 18:20:12 ShiftyAxel: It is doable, and should be done Aug 14 18:20:19 you know why they didn't do it before? Aug 14 18:20:26 tell Aug 14 18:20:39 Someone put a 16G chip in the device, and advertised that as the storage space. Aug 14 18:20:50 but an OS was needed to be crammed on there Aug 14 18:21:02 i figured as much Aug 14 18:21:20 what's needed now however, is a better experience for the users Aug 14 18:21:22 well, yea, who'd buy a 14gb phone? Aug 14 18:21:24 anyway, one more reboot and monitor, and I need to get ready for work... Aug 14 18:21:37 dwc-: everyone. because they did. :P Aug 14 18:21:58 only because they thoguht they got 16 ;) Aug 14 18:22:15 dkirker: when you have time/means could you look into some kind of preware-deliverable solution that we could release under CE? Aug 14 18:22:31 correction, I am getting ready to go into my job herding cats. ;P Aug 14 18:22:53 ShiftyAxel: Yeah. Well... My solution would be in Tailor for all existing devices. Aug 14 18:22:58 Any new devices would just have a new partition map. Aug 14 18:23:13 that sounds like a sensible way to go Aug 14 18:26:57 well, the device works now Aug 14 18:27:01 albeit with some issues... :/ Aug 14 18:27:05 \o/ Aug 14 18:27:11 ah, what's wrong? Aug 14 18:27:31 many services and things report errors Aug 14 18:27:42 but... I am not 100% convinced that is all realeted to my work just now Aug 14 18:27:50 half seems like shitty programming Aug 14 18:29:23 anyway. time to get ready! Aug 14 18:29:30 laters Aug 14 18:29:53 later! Aug 14 19:58:58 * rrix blames LarrySteeze Aug 14 20:10:26 Hmm? Aug 14 20:12:10 it's always your fault!!1 Aug 14 20:13:17 Whoa, a wild Adora appears Aug 14 20:13:43 wild, indeed! Aug 14 20:13:53 is this awkward? Aug 14 20:13:55 nah..... Aug 14 20:14:01 hi guys =] Aug 14 20:14:03 Soooooo awkward :) Aug 14 20:14:10 Adora uses Chat! It's not very effective... Aug 14 20:14:44 Adora: How's life over at Geckoland? Aug 14 20:15:10 Gecko asin Mozilla? Aug 14 20:15:24 not a lot different so far, actually! Aug 14 20:15:31 you know, building phones and stuff Aug 14 20:15:37 * Adora doesn't really remember the last year Aug 14 20:15:46 I like the way you think Aug 14 20:21:09 ShiftyAxel: what is the difference between woce-build/packages/sysmgr/luna-sysmgr/Makefile and build/alpha-woce/uberlunah/Makefile? Aug 14 20:21:36 LunohoD: I believe there are some differences, but i'm not sure Aug 14 20:21:52 rwhitby would probably be the person to ask about that Aug 14 20:22:20 Okay, I daresay it's time to install Lunacy on my main touchpad. Aug 14 20:22:29 LunaCE* Aug 14 20:22:59 LOL you guys should Rename UberLuna to Lunacy Aug 14 20:23:08 such a better name :D Aug 14 20:23:22 GodGinrai: We renamed it to LunaCE, pronounce Lunacy :P Aug 14 20:23:31 (okay, maybe not actually pronounced Lunacy) Aug 14 20:23:38 ah, lol Aug 14 20:23:49 ShiftyAxel: I wonder what is the best way to build the lunaCE package Aug 14 20:24:17 rrix: officially pronounced Lunacy ;) Aug 14 20:24:26 when I build it as described on the wiki page I get org.webos-community-edition.lunasysmgr-ce-custom_0.0.1_armv7.ipk Aug 14 20:24:35 ShiftyAxel: Okay, I figured, I just didn't want to spread unsubstantiated rumours ;) Aug 14 20:24:49 What are folks hacking on today, btw? Aug 14 20:25:07 LunohoD: are you wanting to test stuff on-device? I recommend sending the binary straight-to-device if you're doing that Aug 14 20:25:16 we still need to get some stuff worked out with woce-build Aug 14 20:25:29 i'll take a look into it in a minute and see what state -build is in Aug 14 20:26:00 rrix: i'm trying to get my new card switching/home screening to merge correctly into features. it is not going well. Aug 14 20:26:08 git hates me Aug 14 20:26:11 :x Aug 14 20:26:16 Need any assistance on that? Aug 14 20:26:25 ShiftyAxel: binary and json files. do I need anything else? Aug 14 20:26:37 lunaAnimations.conf wouldn't hurt Aug 14 20:26:40 rrix: I'm down for assistance if you'd like to try :) Aug 14 20:26:52 ShiftyAxel: Cool, what are you trying to merge in to where? Aug 14 20:27:03 lunaAnimations.conf isn't being staged yet, rwhitby doesn't want to replace it because it may alreday be patched by the user Aug 14 20:27:11 Ahh Aug 14 20:27:49 rrix: I'm trying to merge my LSM fork's maximized-switch and maximized-upswipe branches into my features branch Aug 14 20:28:00 which i just pulled down from woce/LunaSysMgr Aug 14 20:28:08 it's having a few problems with the changes Aug 14 20:28:14 Cool, I'll fire up Vagrant in a moment Aug 14 20:28:34 cheers :) Aug 14 20:33:01 what kind of problems, ShiftyAxel? Like merge conflicts? Aug 14 20:33:08 correct Aug 14 20:33:27 i originally built it against unmodified woce Aug 14 20:33:34 ah Aug 14 20:34:20 Well, is it just a lot of conflicts to resolve? Or is it that there are changes that make you unsure of how to resolve the conflicts? Aug 14 20:35:38 the latter, I tried twice earlier and the code looked fine, but either complained that ScreenEdgeSlideGesture.h didn't exist (it did, and was referenced in sysmgr.pro as it should have been) Aug 14 20:36:16 or complained that the getters/setters for ScreeEdgeSlideGesture were operating on undeclared private variables, but they were very clearly declared :) Aug 14 20:36:21 s/:)/:(/ Aug 14 20:36:22 ShiftyAxel meant: or complained that the getters/setters for ScreeEdgeSlideGesture were operating on undeclared private variables, but they were very clearly declared :( Aug 14 20:37:40 no wait, the getters and setters were for the prefs Aug 14 20:44:47 hi all. Aug 14 20:48:01 morning k4ever Aug 14 20:48:49 right, time for merge conflict resolution super time go… episode 3 Aug 14 20:49:37 ShiftyAxel: It is late in the afternoon where am at :) Aug 14 20:50:42 Did the LunaCE thread on webosnation forum get closed? Aug 14 20:50:55 ~ugt Aug 14 20:50:56 [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Aug 14 20:51:03 and no, i don't think so. just renamed. Aug 14 20:54:15 Wow MrBot. I did not know that. that's pretty cool now that I think about. Good morning to you too, Shifty Aug 14 20:54:59 ikr? :) now time is spent telling people about ugt instead of bickering over TZs :D Aug 14 20:55:56 rrix: I think I maaay have the merging in hand Aug 14 20:56:05 it's compiling and hasn't exploded yet... Aug 14 20:56:09 Killer! :) Aug 14 20:56:16 we may just have another neat new feature in the pipeline :D Aug 14 20:56:18 maybe Aug 14 20:56:39 * rrix got caught chasing a server's mySQL running out of memory :| Aug 14 21:00:14 is there a way to add the wave launcher to webOS 3.x in Luna? Aug 14 21:01:33 k4ever: yes, code and pull request ;) Aug 14 21:03:34 rrix: we have progress! Aug 14 21:03:47 now I just need to make it play nice with existing functionality Aug 14 21:03:47 ShiftyAxel: you is awesome :) Aug 14 21:20:09 rrix: why thank you :) Aug 14 21:26:04 Happy Taco Tuesday, btw, everyone. Aug 14 21:26:08 Hope you had a taco! Aug 14 21:27:04 I guess it's already Waffle Wednesday in certain parts of the world, though Aug 14 21:27:16 Yay, pin code checks Aug 14 21:27:23 * rrix hugs rwhitby for that Aug 14 21:59:45 right, time to merge the second part of the patch Aug 14 21:59:54 look for a mushroom cloud over england, everybody Aug 14 22:00:06 * HaDAk gets out his binoculars Aug 14 22:01:35 *ka-foom* Aug 14 22:01:50 * HaDAk shrugs and continues what he was doing Aug 14 22:12:55 * ShiftyAxel looks up from his creation, soot-faced Aug 14 22:13:00 I think I fixed it... Aug 14 22:36:20 ShiftyAxel, whatchu fixin? Aug 14 22:37:08 ka6sox-farfarawa: my new fluid gestures, the finger tracking ones Aug 14 22:37:32 just making them merge against features cleanly now before I pull request get some testing going Aug 14 22:37:48 * ka6sox-farfarawa wishes his wayward TP would come home... Aug 14 22:38:36 i hope it returns safely soon! Aug 14 22:45:17 dkirker: oh, btw, clear history isn't enough, you also have to vaccum the sqlite db Aug 14 22:57:41 dwc-: :S Aug 14 22:57:43 hmmmm Aug 14 22:57:57 I was certain the clear history button in Universe does that Aug 14 22:58:02 Well, I will fix this for 2.0 Aug 14 23:05:51 wahey, fluid gestures is almost good to go Aug 14 23:19:29 dkirker: I took it as an opportunity to vacuum all my sqlite dbs in one go Aug 14 23:19:31 (freed up a few mb) Aug 14 23:24:34 o ye, o ye, i need testers for a new feature Aug 14 23:24:42 any guinea pigs about? Aug 14 23:26:12 ShiftyAxel, new build? Aug 14 23:31:02 i will test for you although am in pre hell as device menu patch is not recognized Aug 14 23:37:46 solved! Aug 14 23:52:55 bluen: can you build? Aug 14 23:53:16 the changes to the input box are not quite right Aug 14 23:54:02 ShiftyAxel: after removing those lines you can no longer edit any inputs Aug 14 23:54:14 EricBlade1: inputs? Aug 14 23:54:24 ShiftyAxel: text input is completely broken for me with 4.2.0 Aug 14 23:55:03 i can select and copy/cut but no inputs are ever taking keyboard input now Aug 14 23:56:37 EricBlade1: really? that's weird, i've had reports of success, and freshly doctored my touchpad today and applied, and it works Aug 15 00:00:06 hmm. i'd grab the official 4.2 package, since i'm using a binary that Larry sent me yesterday, but I can't seem to connect to Preware for the 3.0.5 package Aug 15 00:14:53 ShiftyAxel|Away, keeps running away... Aug 15 00:14:57 (I should talk) Aug 15 00:15:51 ShiftyAxel: I don't have ubuntu installed on vmware on my mac, sorry. Aug 15 00:16:58 bluen, its only a couple of mouseclicks away mon! Aug 15 00:17:09 that's what woce-build is for, jah Aug 15 00:18:22 alrighty then, i just rebooted my devp ad, and it reverted to 3.0.5 Aug 15 00:18:57 without a successful install of the restore package.. Aug 15 00:19:38 EricBlade1: there have been changes since the binary I sent you Aug 15 00:21:00 I can build and package for anyone ShiftyAxel gives me a green light to email the package to Aug 15 00:21:02 :D Aug 15 00:22:25 EricBlade1: would you be up for testing a new feature? Aug 15 00:28:47 ok to test ipk ; be back in 5 min as soon as i drop off pre3 for someone, took hrs it feels like to set up for them Aug 15 00:31:48 umm.. maybe .. ? Aug 15 00:32:09 lol Aug 15 00:32:18 I love it... Aug 15 00:32:21 bluen, if you PM me your email address, I will email you the IPK when it is done Aug 15 00:32:38 EricBlade1: are you going to be testing it as well? I already have your email Aug 15 00:33:16 maaaaybe Aug 15 00:33:54 ok the official 4.2.0 works for input for me Aug 15 00:34:17 It may report the wrong version number because of the way I am building, but I assure you, it's a pre-alpha of the new build Aug 15 00:37:36 when did openwebos add the configurator repo o.O Aug 15 00:38:27 an hour ago-ish maybe? Aug 15 00:40:38 to those who are testing the new IPK, I apologize in the delays in the build, shifty keeps fixing bugs and I keep stopping the build :P Aug 15 00:42:02 "just one more fix ma....then I'll go to bed..I promise! Aug 15 00:42:06 " Aug 15 00:42:07 nice, with this repo, i can see how to force the configurator to run a rescan, assuming it works the same way as it does in current release versions Aug 15 00:42:29 which means, that if i ever do figure out how to make the phone synergy work, i can do a patch Aug 15 00:43:41 oh dammit it's not the configurator that's the problem, i thought that did accounts as well Aug 15 01:11:20 bluen: you around? Aug 15 01:11:31 bluen: I have an IPK that I can email you Aug 15 01:17:31 im back. just read the verge that new installs of flash will no longer be able to be put on android devices. does that have any implications for webOS? presumably that will hasten everything towards html5 video Aug 15 01:19:38 bluen: most likely Aug 15 01:20:05 either that or someone'll figure out how to get the desktop plugin going on mobile devices Aug 15 01:23:31 larrysteeves: what is your email Aug 15 01:23:58 LarrySteeze ^^ Aug 15 01:24:14 bluen: just pm me Aug 15 01:24:17 I'll email you Aug 15 01:24:29 can i pm on freenode Aug 15 01:24:29 I'll have to walk you through a couple extra steps too Aug 15 01:24:32 yes Aug 15 01:28:36 bluen: let me know your verdict and i can begin the push to preware if successful :) Aug 15 01:28:55 bluen: I got your pm and responded Aug 15 01:28:56 but Aug 15 01:29:01 I still don't have your email Aug 15 01:37:00 ShiftyAxel: will do. Is this the next build of CE? is it fixing bugs or does it have new features? or both? Aug 15 01:37:14 bit of both Aug 15 01:37:26 basically I need you to test the new 'fluid' gesture detection Aug 15 01:38:10 cool, interesting. feels fluid in current build, can't wait to see what you created Aug 15 01:38:52 oh believe me, it's a step up ;) Aug 15 01:39:01 hint: you can 'peek' Aug 15 01:40:34 also there have been questions in the forum about why the screen & lock brightness slider only goes down to 10% Aug 15 01:40:40 might need patching Aug 15 01:41:37 mine goes down much lower than I would use it, even in pitch black Aug 15 01:41:56 i like the option to have it on 1% Aug 15 01:42:10 it's useful for #FFFFFF Aug 15 01:48:35 bluen, HaDAk: any progress? Aug 15 01:48:43 we need 2 more successes to get to beta Aug 15 01:49:34 it's installed and not crashing, but i don't see any difference Aug 15 01:50:27 ShiftyAxel, 'splain? Aug 15 01:50:43 HaDAk: you have to enable via tweaks Aug 15 01:50:54 change gesture detection to 'fluid' Aug 15 01:51:04 then try an app switch or card view gesture… slowly Aug 15 01:51:25 i did that. i still don't see a difference. Aug 15 01:51:38 HaDAk: how does it behave? Aug 15 01:51:48 do the cards follow your finger when dragging? Aug 15 01:53:04 no. i slide my finger up -slowly- from the bottom, and the app goes to card in ~15px Aug 15 01:53:17 have you rebooted? Aug 15 01:53:23 yes Aug 15 01:53:31 that implies that the fluid functionality isn't present Aug 15 01:55:10