**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 03 03:00:00 2012 Sep 03 03:41:33 LunaCE 4.6.0 is in the woce/beta Sep 03 03:43:37 ka6sox: are their instructions for installing the beta somewhere? Sep 03 03:53:11 yes! but for the life of me I can't find them Sep 03 03:56:31 testing.preware.org Sep 03 03:56:34 mscoolnerd, still here? Sep 03 03:56:35 ya Sep 03 03:56:44 ka6sox: yup Sep 03 03:56:50 http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/317427-lunace-4-x.html Sep 03 03:56:57 wait... my nick shows mscoolnerd? Sep 03 03:57:06 yes Sep 03 03:57:08 it's linked in the first post of that thread Sep 03 03:57:14 that's odd... Sep 03 03:57:25 hmmm Sep 03 03:57:42 very interesting Sep 03 03:58:32 --> invalidopcode (~mscoolner@99-43-5-119.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #webos-ports Sep 03 03:58:36 okay thanks Sep 03 03:59:09 I've been setting up my new laptop, I mixed up the usernames fields in pidgin Sep 03 04:00:08 thanks rwhitby I found that, I was just wondering if there were any specific instructions for LunaCE Sep 03 04:04:24 Where's the best place to find the LunaCE change log? Sep 03 04:07:09 xyzodiac, http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/LunaCE_Versions Sep 03 04:07:45 scoutcamper, thanks a ton! Sep 03 04:09:09 scoutcamper: actually, the best place is in the preware package description Sep 03 04:09:26 that as well :) Sep 03 04:10:12 hey ka6sox (and rwhitby) I'm getting an error "Verification failed on /etc/palm/lunaAnimations.conf" I assume its due to one of my patches.... would you happen to know off hand which patch would cause this? Sep 03 04:10:59 no Sep 03 04:11:30 but the suggested response is also in the first post Sep 03 04:29:00 anyone know why in some apps the slimey face buttons have images and in other apps text? Sep 03 04:29:44 LunaCE is pretty awesome, nice job guys! Sep 03 04:31:44 EricBlade-TP: full screen youtube videos working in LunaCE here Sep 03 04:36:18 invalidopcode: hmm. shrug. Sep 03 04:36:48 I'm working out how to repeat my tab view bugs, I think I have some ideas Sep 03 04:37:50 ah okay Sep 03 04:39:56 might be related to having two stacks of two right next to each other Sep 03 04:40:24 when I open tab view on one, I get the bottom card in another stack under the tab view Sep 03 04:40:36 but I'm not positive on the repro Sep 03 04:45:40 haha that's interesting... Sep 03 04:45:50 I can reproduce it on my touchpad Sep 03 04:46:27 I like how the tab view rubber bands for those people who can be easily entertained Sep 03 04:51:03 You know... I'm looking at this "Just Type "Instant"" task in the pivotal tracker, and I think it would be cooler to have a just type box that could come down on the right side like the tab view, where you could do little searches from Sep 03 04:51:26 oh, that repros for you? Sep 03 04:52:03 well if the just type source that came out is compatible... Sep 03 04:52:25 otherwise we'd have to roll our own rather than use the existing Sep 03 04:53:11 to reproduce I did just what you said... create 2 stacks of 2 applications and switch to tab view Sep 03 04:53:16 hm.... okay Sep 03 04:54:45 wellthats good. I have abunch of apps open so I haven't really tried too hard. Sep 03 04:56:28 ah okay Sep 03 04:57:10 holy crap is Twitter down Sep 03 04:59:16 works for me Sep 03 05:02:19 me to Sep 03 05:03:05 me too Sep 03 05:03:21 twitwhatnow Sep 03 05:03:49 I can't get it from anywhere Sep 03 05:04:21 works here Sep 03 05:04:59 jow its back Sep 03 05:05:04 *now Sep 03 05:05:44 how long does the "vagrant up" command usually take? Sep 03 05:07:36 several seconds i think Sep 03 05:08:25 for the first time? Sep 03 05:10:14 its taking a while to "Running provisioner: Vagrant::Provisioners::Shell..." Sep 03 05:10:29 btw this is on windows... so its "unsupported" Sep 03 05:15:01 lol Sep 03 05:16:03 I never got it to work on windows Sep 03 05:16:26 or in my ubuntu vm Sep 03 05:16:31 ah okay Sep 03 05:16:53 I guess I can try to figure out how I broke my Ubuntu install last night... Sep 03 05:17:45 oopsie Sep 03 05:28:55 I'm going to do a current draw check next time I upgrade my ce Sep 03 05:38:53 Gentlemen, I need some assistance. What could be the cause of "setPreference(): setPref did NOT find handler for myTweaksSetting"? Sep 03 05:39:56 I've made sure that it's set up correctly in the Preferences files (.cpp, .h). Is there any other reason why I keep getting this? Sep 03 05:43:21 ah pidgin... much better Sep 03 13:49:30 mornin all Sep 03 13:50:19 morning Sep 03 13:54:51 didn't we have someone who said they'd managed to mod the build-desktop scripts to get running in x64 ? Sep 03 14:03:17 yes Sep 03 14:03:22 panda-z Sep 03 14:04:19 EricBlade: he used this diff to build it on his x64 ArchLinux: http://pastebin.com/kbDsKDA3 Sep 03 14:04:59 EricBlade: (21:48:00) pc-world: and in luna-desktop-binaries/luna-sysmgr/Src/Common.h you'll have to add "#define __i386__" into line 24 Sep 03 14:06:45 interesting. and thank you Sep 03 14:12:37 i see that the build script "sort of" has some support for custom source location building Sep 03 14:12:54 lots of "### To build from your local clone of ..., change the following line to "cd" to your clone's location" Sep 03 14:15:27 morning Sep 03 14:17:51 * fxspec06 draggin Sep 03 14:17:53 good morning Sep 03 14:18:32 Hmmn, Preware seems to be hanging on me when I try to install CE 4.6 over 4.5.2. Its been on downloading Removing Tweaks Files for about 10-15 min Sep 03 14:19:20 todos soy las dias finale de mi freedom Sep 03 14:19:21 lots of people reporting that Sep 03 14:23:50 fxspec06: "I am all the days of my freedom finale"?? (Google Translator ^^) Sep 03 14:24:20 heh, so mi espanol es no bueno -__- today is the last day of my freedom Sep 03 14:24:40 s/todos/hoy, maybe, idk Sep 03 14:24:46 I rebooted and it looks like tweaks removed everything. I have no idea which Luna I am on because status bar tweak is gone Sep 03 14:25:24 bluen: version string gone? Sep 03 14:25:27 I can't see past the last line, but it sounds like I'm having a similar problem Sep 03 14:25:28 i blame this spanish girl. she teach me all wrong things to say =P Sep 03 14:25:31 that sounds like it didn't update successfully... Sep 03 14:25:56 tried updating last night and it got stuck removing tweaks files. Sep 03 14:26:59 pc-world: yes it hung. So I rebooted and all tweaks are gone. I don't know what Luna I am on (I was on 4.5.2) but gestures are no longer working, card recycling etc Sep 03 14:27:57 you are on stock Luna if the version string is gone Sep 03 14:28:06 (version string is currently hard-coded into LunaCE) Sep 03 14:28:17 is the LunaCE Preware package installed? Sep 03 14:28:19 preware seems to think it is still installed Sep 03 14:28:28 try to remove remove the package Sep 03 14:28:30 then reinstall Sep 03 14:28:32 lunaCE that is Sep 03 14:28:37 how do I do that? Sep 03 14:28:43 do you mean with preware? Sep 03 14:28:58 when I tried that last night, it got stuck in the same place Sep 03 14:29:19 Grabber5_0: do you mean removing fails as well? Sep 03 14:29:23 pc-world: I do not have a lunace package in launcher. I was on the 4.5.2 that did not have the package. So as part of the install process for a new beta version, does it completely remove the old beta and return one to stock? Sep 03 14:29:25 yes Sep 03 14:29:43 bluen: it does always does that Sep 03 14:29:58 (it runs first prerm then postinst on every update, afaik) Sep 03 14:30:10 I think it has to, or it will fail, to install Sep 03 14:30:14 pc-world: so I conclude that preware removed tweaks and the earlier beta and then it hung on installing the 4.6 Sep 03 14:30:33 probably something else... Sep 03 14:30:43 I'll try to see if I can reproduce it Sep 03 14:31:05 pc-world: I came from the 4.5.2 that did not have luna in the launcher Sep 03 14:31:13 anyone that currently has this problem know how to run a commandline...? Sep 03 14:31:24 bluen: that shouldn't matter Sep 03 14:31:31 yes Sep 03 14:31:34 pc-world: I can run a command line Sep 03 14:31:43 ok, let me check something first... Sep 03 14:32:06 pc-world: I have already rebooted but I did not yet go into preware to try again Sep 03 14:33:06 I had some synergy errors recurring over and over last night, hopefully unrelated. looked like it was trying to update a contact image and failing Sep 03 14:33:20 it won't work bluen Sep 03 14:33:42 hope I'm wrong, but mine kept doing the same thing. preware thinks it is still installed Sep 03 14:33:58 what did you guys have before 4.5.2? Sep 03 14:34:07 4.5.1 or something else? Sep 03 14:34:18 pc-world: 4.5.1 Sep 03 14:34:54 Grabber 5_0: my idea was to go into preware and reinstall stock again (even though it is there) Sep 03 14:35:02 last beta, 4.5.2 I believe Sep 03 14:35:21 Grabber 5_0: and then hopefully coming from neutral i could install 4.1 Sep 03 14:35:23 4.6 Sep 03 14:36:26 pc-world: Preware thinks I have CE 4.5.2 installed even though you say I am at stock Sep 03 14:36:37 bluen: don't do that, re "reinstall stock again" Sep 03 14:36:49 pc-world: ok Sep 03 14:37:24 does anyone of you have the webOS SDK installed? Sep 03 14:37:39 yes Sep 03 14:37:45 3.05 sdk Sep 03 14:37:50 hmm I thought it sounded like a good idea, so I did it. :-O Sep 03 14:37:57 bluen: great. first run "palm-log --system-log-level info" Sep 03 14:38:15 then try to remove LunaCE again, wait till it hungs Sep 03 14:38:39 and then post the recent messages of /var/log/messages Sep 03 14:39:00 it's probably related to that invalid JSON in appinfo.json problem :-/ Sep 03 14:39:00 I did not restart, but after that it showed both installed, and I was able to remove 4.5.2. Sep 03 14:39:06 palm-log --system-log-level info setting log level to info on device "topaz-linux" {2d9d2322f82174ccedb7380766b8f9d431d82ef8} usb 58152 Sep 03 14:39:19 bluen: I don't need output from that one ;) Sep 03 14:39:30 debating whether to try to install 4.6 or restart first Sep 03 14:40:00 pc-world: do I try to install 4.6 now or do I try to remove 4.5.2 or do I try to install stock? Sep 03 14:40:23 need to get to a pc first Sep 03 14:40:50 pc-world: hmm. blows up in the qt compile Sep 03 14:41:53 EricBlade: well, I din't try it myself... error message? Sep 03 14:41:57 *didn't Sep 03 14:42:11 bluen: try to remove 4.5.2 Sep 03 14:42:20 ../../include/QtCore/../../../qt4/src/corelib/arch/qatomic_i386.h:177: Error: incorrect register `%rdx' used with `l' suffix Sep 03 14:44:29 EricBlade: you did apply the patch, right? Sep 03 14:44:35 yes Sep 03 14:44:47 EricBlade: it should probably include qatomic_ia64.h instead Sep 03 14:45:03 pc-world: preware: removing removing tweaks files is hanging (fyi there are no tweaks files to remove but it hangs anyway) Sep 03 14:45:46 bluen: I know that. that's why you should to it Sep 03 14:45:50 *do it Sep 03 14:45:58 now I need the recent messages of /var/log/messages Sep 03 14:46:29 pc-world: so /var/log/messages is on the mac? or is it recording on the touchpad? Sep 03 14:46:33 bluen: its' probably not actually hanging when removing tweaks, that's just a Preware display problem Sep 03 14:46:42 bluen: that's a log file on the TouchPad Sep 03 14:47:02 *it's Sep 03 14:48:03 EricBlade: do you find "-arch x86_64" in luna-desktop-binaries/qt4/palm-desktop-configure ? Sep 03 14:48:26 I didn't see anything interesting last night from wterm.. I will check from putty Sep 03 14:50:16 of course it already rolled over :-P Sep 03 14:50:42 * pc-world has finally running native Ubuntu on his TP Sep 03 14:50:56 sounds fun Sep 03 14:51:35 pc-world: no Sep 03 14:51:58 EricBlade: then the patch didn't apply properly Sep 03 14:52:17 (or the sed script from the patch) Sep 03 14:52:46 EricBlade: do you find it in build-webos-desktop.sh ? Sep 03 14:55:22 pc-world: link to messages is https://www.box.com/s/v2yopgbib7t0qccu4j7k; pls pm me as I have a faster way to get this to you than using box Sep 03 14:56:14 bluen: maybe you shouldn't have posted the whole messages file publicy available... Sep 03 14:56:20 pc-world: yeah i see it there. doesn't look like it works Sep 03 14:56:41 well, at least it worked for k4ever and panda-z Sep 03 14:56:45 pc-world, please pm me and I will remove it from box and put it somewhere where only you can see it Sep 03 14:56:54 bluen: I've already downloaded it Sep 03 14:58:30 pc-world: i have a webos-ports folder on my external hard drive connected to my pogo plug; shiftyaxel and larrysteeves have access to it Sep 03 14:59:03 hm. looks like it only does that step if the .orig file doesn't exist already, so probably removing it will work Sep 03 14:59:29 nope Sep 03 15:00:06 bluen: did you try to remove LunaCE before uploading the log? cause I can't find any LunaCE-related Preware messages in there... Sep 03 15:00:11 I see something interesting Sep 03 15:00:20 Grabber5_0: what? Sep 03 15:00:48 pc-world: yes it hung on on removing tweaks so I tossed the card and then sent you the log file Sep 03 15:02:43 ps -ef shows a still-running luna-send command for uninstalling package org.webosports.lunace Sep 03 15:03:38 pc-world: should i try installing stock again? Or what would you advise? Sep 03 15:06:17 what size is the stock LunaSysMgr binary? Sep 03 15:06:54 pc-world: blowing away the whole staging folder and restarting got it working Sep 03 15:06:55 is there a good irc browser client so I can type on my laptop? Sep 03 15:11:49 am I here? Sep 03 15:12:08 duh freenode has a web client :-) Sep 03 15:12:24 EricBlade: nice Sep 03 15:13:11 it's probably not uninstalling because of a broken appinfo.json Sep 03 15:13:27 sometimes copy/paste in putty is a bad thing :D Sep 03 15:13:38 bluen: though for some reason I can't find any Preware messages in your log file... Sep 03 15:13:45 I accidently pasted the luna-send onto the terminal and it is running :D Sep 03 15:14:02 pc-world: I will install stock again. Sep 03 15:14:05 broken appinfo.json for LunaCE? Sep 03 15:14:36 bluen: try it. though not sure if it will help removing/updating LunaCE... Sep 03 15:14:49 Grabber: there was a syntax error in the appinfo.json of LunaCE 4.5.2 Sep 03 15:14:54 ah Sep 03 15:15:05 Preware shows I'm back to normall.. going to restart and find out Sep 03 15:15:09 going to copy the logs first Sep 03 15:15:25 did you see my question about the binary size of stock LunaCE (and md5 hash) Sep 03 15:15:44 yes, wait a second... Sep 03 15:16:54 grabber; preware says downloading 2315K for stock Sep 03 15:17:02 Grabber: stock 3.0.5 LSM: ac55840a2826f03a04268aa92aed920f LunaSysMgr Sep 03 15:17:12 okay, I'm away now Sep 03 15:17:14 I'm surprised it installed with a broken appinfo.json Sep 03 15:17:18 LSM? Sep 03 15:17:21 LunaSysMgr Sep 03 15:17:44 ok mine is back to stock Sep 03 15:17:52 going to restart before trying to install 4.6 Sep 03 15:18:02 after I finish copying these log files :D Sep 03 15:22:04 I found one other user that did the same thing I just did and said it worked Sep 03 15:22:38 bluen: after installed stock, installed 4.6 and seems to have worked Sep 03 15:23:53 back to normal Sep 03 15:24:15 ok make that several people Sep 03 15:25:24 Oh gawd! One of my dogs is sitting under my desk farting and it is killing me! Sep 03 15:25:52 Hrm got a DNS error Sep 03 15:27:20 oh, wifi problem Sep 03 15:31:54 sigh.. great time for my Touchpad to decide to have WiFi issues Sep 03 15:31:58 BBL Sep 03 15:32:07 stalled downloading, connection died again Sep 03 15:34:44 Restarting.. going to refill my coffee Sep 03 15:35:23 morning all Sep 03 15:35:39 what's on the cards for today? Sep 03 15:35:51 morning Shifty Sep 03 15:36:15 finish cleaning my desk so I can work tomorrow and park the car in the garage again :D Sep 03 15:41:45 so I guess you know for certain the appinfo.json was the cause of the 4.5.2 to 4.6 upgrade/unistall issues and don't need more log files? Sep 03 15:48:30 yeah, it's fixed in 4.6.0 Sep 03 15:49:45 sorry, got disconnecte Sep 03 15:49:47 d Sep 03 15:49:49 cool Sep 03 15:51:41 I have not quit! Sep 03 15:52:05 oh where did that underscore come from. perhaps it was added because my previous session had not expired Sep 03 15:52:35 so, ShiftyAxel .. i think i figured out what my issue is with the keyboard switcher thingee .. before LunaCE, I had a English spell check Qwerty keyboard, and a no-spell check Qwerty keyboard .. and the switch button would switch between "Eng" and "Qty". Sep 03 15:52:41 Now, it switches from "English" to "English" Sep 03 15:55:47 aha Sep 03 16:01:38 building isis in ubuntu, there are 1814591 objects in /WebKit Sep 03 16:02:25 blue: yes, yes they are. enjoy watching the sands of time slowly trickle away as it builds :P Sep 03 16:02:44 EricBlade: aha, cool. are you working on a fix? Sep 03 16:06:29 ShiftyAxel: i don't really know what changed. or why. Sep 03 16:06:43 and am working on rebuilding owos desktop atm Sep 03 16:07:43 pc-world, for CE I am going to create a contributors file Sep 03 16:08:15 if they really want something UGLY on every file in OW then fine Sep 03 16:10:04 EricBlade: try asking mansandersson when he's about, he did a major rewrite of the vkb layout code a while ago Sep 03 16:34:44 EricBlade, ShiftyAxel: that's a side-effect of mansanderson's keyboard restructuring Sep 03 16:34:51 ka6sox: okay Sep 03 16:59:23 this x64 build thing doesn't love me. i think i should talk to panda Sep 03 17:17:44 hmm. Luna doesn't work in Seamless mode in Vbox Sep 03 17:18:22 boooo Sep 03 17:18:52 is it being treated the same as the backdrop pic and being made seethru? Sep 03 17:19:06 just comes out all white Sep 03 17:19:10 Oo Sep 03 17:19:25 when i switched out of seamless, it came up all black except for the gesture area Sep 03 17:19:31 and then when i restarted it it worked Sep 03 17:19:54 good news: it does work in x64. Sep 03 17:19:56 woulda been 1 interesting desktop tbh, esp if it was windows+ubuntu+webOS, 1 active/interesting desktop tbh Sep 03 17:20:14 there's a metric ton of compiler warnings, but it works Sep 03 17:20:25 not all bad then :D Sep 03 17:20:45 ok bbl Sep 03 17:29:51 EricBlade, did #113 get solved in 4.6.0? Sep 03 17:31:52 ka6sox: there's at least a comment "Merged into the 4.6.0 RC" Sep 03 17:33:23 ShiftyAxel, ^^ Sep 03 18:07:18 ka6sox yeah, EricBlade submitted a fix in a pull request Sep 03 18:12:07 ShiftyAxel, are we calling that resolved? closed? Sep 03 18:12:29 ka6sox: I'd say resolved Sep 03 18:12:53 you sound liek mythbusters Sep 03 18:14:01 * ShiftyAxel puts on his bushy mustache Sep 03 18:14:07 :) Sep 03 18:14:43 let's blow something up for questionably clear scientific reasons! Sep 03 18:14:45 * ka6sox feels like cleaning house on this Sep 03 18:18:31 * ka6sox will never use non-dairy creamer again... Sep 03 18:38:48 anyone online? Sep 03 18:39:43 you are the only person on the internet r_e :) Sep 03 18:42:26 * pcworld is online from Ubuntu Native on his TouchPad. using Synergy (Linux package) to type with my desktop keyboard Sep 03 18:43:08 does synergy stick now and then in native like when using the carded ubuntu Sep 03 18:43:34 and give capital letters form keyboard? Sep 03 18:43:34 some versions of synergy are quite notorious for that sort of thing Sep 03 18:43:43 yarp every 1 ive tried ¬ ¬ Sep 03 18:43:49 hatign the stuck shift key Sep 03 18:44:45 GeekPete: carded Ubuntu? and capital letters work perfectly Sep 03 18:45:00 my synergy only types out capitals Sep 03 18:45:10 cant get lowcase ¬ ¬ Sep 03 18:46:19 hmm, I just installed the "synergy" package from the Ubuntu repo (10.10 on desktop, 11.10 on TP) Sep 03 18:46:34 (though I don't see the cursor on the TouchPad, but that's no problem with synergy) Sep 03 18:46:36 aye my touchpad ends up capitals, pre3 erm doesnt even type when using pc keyboard Sep 03 18:46:53 mouse is fine btu sticks briefly now and then Sep 03 18:47:04 GeekPete: well, I'm in native Ubuntu on the TP, not in webOS... haven't tested it in webOS yet Sep 03 18:47:10 :) Sep 03 18:47:25 hopefully its not just me :D Sep 03 18:48:19 tried the whole ScrollLock on pc keyboard to lock mouse to your pc or touchpad/pre3 as well to stop mouse sticks doin unpredictable stuff Sep 03 18:49:33 owos lsm also doesn't work in full screen on the vbox either Sep 03 18:50:12 oh hey, i have a non-webos-potrs related question (open webos build) . Is that ok or is there somewhere else to ask abou that? Sep 03 18:51:18 r_e: I think Open webOS is related to #webos-ports, so it should be okay :) Sep 03 18:52:32 fark, luna won't even work on any monitor but the primary Sep 03 18:52:33 ok, so i built the "build-webos" target and i'm now running qemu with a openwebos 1.0 command prompt. is there a way to run luna? Sep 03 18:53:55 r_e: currently not Sep 03 18:53:58 as far as i've heard, there's no recipe for including luna in it Sep 03 18:54:13 i'm curious as to if the system is otherwise functional, though Sep 03 18:54:17 r_e: they haven't yet included Luna in the build-webos script :-/ Sep 03 18:54:39 i see. doh, totally built the wrong one lol Sep 03 18:55:23 how would i test the function otherwise? Sep 03 18:55:40 r_e: that's a good question... Sep 03 18:56:08 run ls-monitor perhaps, see if luna services are working? Sep 03 18:57:14 or paste a ps -ax Sep 03 18:57:31 well, gvoice/synergv 1 doesn't start up Sep 03 18:58:13 i get an error: unable to connect to com.palm.hub (127.0.0.1:5512) etc. Sep 03 18:58:25 r_e: we were told they are supposed to include Luna later in the month iirc Sep 03 18:58:34 i see Sep 03 18:59:04 morning all. Sep 03 18:59:42 got an issue with lunace 4.6.0. need help really quick Sep 03 18:59:55 k4ever_: ...that is? Sep 03 19:00:10 i can't get any apps other than what comes with it to start :( Sep 03 19:00:40 preware has been updating to lunace 4.6 for the last 5 minutes Sep 03 19:00:47 replace it with palm luna, reboot, reinstall lunace Sep 03 19:00:54 if tis stuck on removing tweaks prefs/etc Sep 03 19:01:29 yes it is. do I just shut down preware? Sep 03 19:01:38 aye bin it and relaunch Sep 03 19:02:00 ok Sep 03 19:02:58 installing palm lsm now Sep 03 19:03:14 brb Sep 03 19:03:54 XFCE is like 1000x faster on the TP than this freaking Unity... Sep 03 19:04:16 and I can even see my real mouse cursor (synergy) Sep 03 19:04:35 :) Sep 03 19:05:01 just use xfce4 and manually use the unity2d launcher if u need it Sep 03 19:05:20 so is the build-webos build of open webos pretty much useless rightn now? Sep 03 19:05:49 r_e: yes... unless you get LSM to work Sep 03 19:06:10 at least I haven't seen anyone who could do much with it, except for booting a shell and "echo hello world" Sep 03 19:06:22 which is unlikely because i'm a noob Sep 03 19:07:14 r_e: I guess it might be available by the end of the month (or even earlier) Sep 03 19:07:45 aha, here's the part of the announcement that mentions that the OE build isn't quite there yet .. "The build provides an ARM emulator, running core services such as db8 and node.js.We are actively converging on an OE Core image which boots to System Manager and the full webOS experience." Sep 03 19:08:04 would i have to re-builddd,, because it took around 24hours on my comp lol Sep 03 19:09:47 plus some waking up in the morning to build errors... :P Sep 03 19:11:14 ok, i got to go. Thanks for the help everyone Sep 03 19:37:37 hey EricBlade, do you know if the build-desktop on x64 builds 64-bit binaries or 32 bit binaries? Sep 03 19:38:51 if i could locate where any of the binaries are, i'd tell you Sep 03 19:41:20 EricBlade: luna-desktop-binaries/rootfs/usr/bin? Sep 03 19:41:47 no Sep 03 19:43:00 invalidopcode: BrowserServer: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0x6b42817e2418293f104fda9d3fefef02f12b6855, not stripped Sep 03 19:44:55 oh dear. a couple of the eldest child's friends just came over, and she says to her mother "MOMMA CAN I GO LARPING?" Sep 03 19:45:00 * EricBlade sighs Sep 03 19:46:14 EricBlade: okay thanks :/ Sep 03 19:46:14 what's the answer? Sep 03 19:54:10 it was "OH YEAH I'M 18 NOW, MOMMA I'M GOING LARPING" Sep 03 19:54:53 i yelled "Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!" Sep 03 19:57:47 hide in shadow! Sep 03 20:02:48 uh...? Sep 03 20:03:48 Hi all Sep 03 20:04:32 does someone know which wifi stack Open webOS will use? Sep 03 20:05:33 bluez for bluetooth, but for wifi? Sep 03 20:08:16 Benpre3: uh, wifi stack? Sep 03 20:09:40 yeah currently Open webOS beta has not wifi Sep 03 20:10:03 there's the linux kernel and a standard API to it. There are some management services in webos to configure / monitor wireless status that hook into them so I wouldn't be surprised if something like that is done in OWO Sep 03 20:11:00 (really has not wifi, bluetooth, and MEDIA frameworks...) it cannot read a mp3 file... xD Sep 03 20:11:47 yeah, looks like there's a way to go, yet. :-/ Sep 03 20:17:14 and actually the arm version has no ui, am I right? Sep 03 20:17:43 yes, it's coming later in the month Sep 03 20:18:25 good Sep 03 20:19:33 do you know if also these media, wifi and bluetooth frameworks will be released or have we to compile from ourselves? Sep 03 20:19:49 *to write Sep 03 20:20:04 hmm. following the instructions in the build script, to cd to a different directory to use custom source for lunasysmgr .. blows up with all kinds of errors. :-S Sep 03 20:22:42 anyone knows which frameworks will be released so I can start to work on something will not release? - eheh I don't want do a work useless :P Sep 03 20:28:30 darn, i forgot to close this up last night. i'm actually back online now folks. i apologize Sep 03 20:28:33 lunace 4.6 installed right this time Sep 03 20:28:58 Benpre3: what sort of work are you thinking of? Sep 03 20:41:29 ShiftyAxel: to work on frameworks are not available, but obviously if HP is not releasing them yet Sep 03 20:42:12 Benpre3: C++ expertise? Sep 03 20:42:51 too Sep 03 20:42:53 switching over to my laptop. see you folks later! (for real this time!) Sep 03 20:43:13 but do you know if HP is releasing something yet or have we to wait? Sep 03 20:44:02 HP's releases are focusing on x86 and qemu Sep 03 20:44:42 they need to make OWO a finished, stable product first Sep 03 20:45:02 ah ok then Sep 03 21:06:16 good morning tyrok_laptop Sep 03 21:07:11 LarrySteeze|Away: Howdy! Sep 03 21:07:56 Anyone have Roger Stringer's e-mail? He asked me to e-mail him in regards to my pull request. Sep 03 23:35:06 i'm still building isis 7 hours later Sep 03 23:35:55 bluen: I definitely need more cores :) Sep 04 01:00:07 I am trying to gather some information. Has anyone thought about or looked into porting openwebos to boards like Raspberry pi or any or the other systems? Sep 04 01:00:54 if so do we know the technical limitations to such a project? Sep 04 01:00:58 hi all. i'm compiling isis on ubuntu 64 right now. wish me luck Sep 04 01:01:57 https://twitter.com/KariByron/status/242781996957450240/photo/1 Sep 04 01:02:47 raspis dont need a UI... Sep 04 01:04:17 rrix: a lot of people want a UI on it. It has HDMI out Sep 04 01:04:39 regardless... Sep 04 01:04:42 ~eta Sep 04 01:04:42 it has been said that eta is We do not provide ETA's. for more information view http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ETA Sep 04 01:05:10 EricBlade: yes, it is. Sep 04 01:05:35 That doesn't mean it should have one :) Sep 04 01:05:42 I want my laptop to give me massages ;P Sep 04 01:06:12 * rrix gets sad when he sees a nice hardware development platform as the raspi being used to just tack a touchscreen to Sep 04 01:06:24 s/as/such as/ Sep 04 01:06:24 rrix meant: I want my laptop to give me msuch assages ;P Sep 04 01:06:33 what, no I didn't Sep 04 01:06:34 rwhitby: what'd i ask? Sep 04 01:06:40 oh, on twitter. Sep 04 01:06:41 WoceBot: You liar Sep 04 01:06:45 EricBlade: twitter Sep 04 01:06:46 rwhitby: drool. Sep 04 01:08:53 so no technical information on porting it to such devices? or which device I should begin with? Sep 04 01:09:35 k4ever: isis compiles fine on u64 Sep 04 01:10:41 EricBlade: thanks. how long does it take? i'm on 15 minutes now Sep 04 01:10:59 k4ever: i think mine took a couple hours .. any time you build webkit, you're in for some pain Sep 04 01:11:38