**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 11 02:59:58 2012 Sep 11 03:00:07 Hrm Sep 11 03:00:21 * HaDAk throws something Sep 11 03:00:26 how the f*** do you revert on git?! Sep 11 03:00:46 I don't even know how to vert Sep 11 03:00:58 https://github.com/skipmeister123/core-apps/commit/d37c33060d7f0577a426965f9cec638b6be517ec Sep 11 03:01:02 i want to revert to that! Sep 11 03:01:05 it won't let me do jack Sep 11 03:01:31 I downloaded 4.9.4 from git, and the wave launcher didn't work at all. Rebooting again Sep 11 03:01:35 Wish I could help Sep 11 03:01:50 wave launcher trigger changed Sep 11 03:02:05 I should read the help :D Sep 11 03:03:43 so, that was a bug? I hate that feature Sep 11 03:04:23 (referring to name display vs email addr) Sep 11 03:04:40 yeah. Sep 11 03:04:42 i fixed it. Sep 11 03:04:48 it should display the name, and the email below it Sep 11 03:05:10 bugs? webOS doesn't have bugs Sep 11 03:05:39 very nice Sep 11 03:07:14 I always hated how the mail on the email app would not tell you *which* email address an email was sent to or from if the contact had more than one Sep 11 03:07:37 i fixed that. Sep 11 03:07:44 i think. ^^ Sep 11 03:07:50 let me know if it works for you. Sep 11 03:08:35 that is just for open webos at this point though right? Sep 11 03:08:52 nope. Sep 11 03:09:02 it's actually in preware right now Sep 11 03:09:11 oh seriously? Sep 11 03:09:18 the whole app or is this a patch Sep 11 03:09:45 it's a patch Sep 11 03:09:49 can we distribute the whole app now? Sep 11 03:09:55 aren't they open source now? Sep 11 03:10:00 i'm not distributing an app Sep 11 03:10:03 i'm distributing a patch Sep 11 03:10:12 i know.. Sep 11 03:10:18 but i think we can distribute the entire app now Sep 11 03:10:23 we can Sep 11 03:10:24 ugh feed download stalled Sep 11 03:11:11 better email headers I assume? Sep 11 03:11:30 yeah Sep 11 03:12:32 the wave launcher is looking good. that change to the side is going to throw some folks off :) Sep 11 03:12:56 * HaDAk gets pissed off and deletes his github repo Sep 11 03:12:59 let's try this again. Sep 11 03:13:03 lol Sep 11 03:13:34 wait... my processor supports WiMAX??? :P Sep 11 03:15:10 HaDAk, you only changed the from name/email right? Sep 11 03:15:13 looks good Sep 11 03:15:29 i changed the whole header section Sep 11 03:15:40 it worked for you? no splodey-boom? Sep 11 03:15:42 right i was just referring to the name vs email Sep 11 03:15:53 no, no explosions here Sep 11 03:15:59 excellent. Sep 11 03:16:37 interestingly, in the "to" area, sometimes I see a contact name, sometimes I see an email addr Sep 11 03:17:45 all this off-topic is going to wake Shifty up :p Sep 11 03:17:55 * HaDAk moseys on over to OT Sep 11 03:21:52 * scoutcamper wakes up and grumbles at all of the OT Sep 11 03:23:59 * Grabber ducks Sep 11 03:24:24 * PatrickC walks in Sep 11 03:38:05 * HaDAk beats scoutcamper mercilessly with a foam bat Sep 11 14:19:15 morning all Sep 11 14:26:25 morning Sep 11 14:31:39 morning... Sep 11 15:20:02 ~morningall Grabber5_0 Sep 11 15:20:03 * WoceBot picks up Grabber5_0 and waves them at the channel Sep 11 15:28:21 Is there any way to get a gui on the arm image? Sep 11 15:30:48 not yet, no Sep 11 15:31:51 Sad, Sep 11 15:31:53 also Sep 11 15:32:02 does it take forever to boot up to cmd line on anyone elses system? Sep 11 15:32:08 i was using it on a rpi Sep 11 15:37:29 rpi is kind of slow... Sep 11 15:37:43 I imagine it would boot faster with more powerful specs Sep 11 15:41:46 ShiftyAxel: did you say yesterday that someone got OWOS building on Arch? Sep 11 15:48:31 or does anyone know if OWOS can be built on Arch? Sep 11 15:52:23 PatrickC: I believe it can be yes Sep 11 15:52:43 someone mentioned it the other day, try rooting through the logs with Ctrl+F Sep 11 15:56:04 PatrickC: panda-z did it Sep 11 15:56:19 (he posted a patch that he used to build it on x64 Arch Linux) Sep 11 15:59:21 it just didnt output anything for ages Sep 11 15:59:24 then booted up to cmd Sep 11 15:59:39 other os's run quite fast on it, im guessing its because the build was targetted to armv5 Sep 11 15:59:56 Btw, where the hell is the config file for setting cpu related things? Sep 11 16:00:46 pc-world: awesome Sep 11 16:01:02 installing x64 arch on a vm to try it out, if i like it. will install in a dualboot on the laptop Sep 11 16:18:30 PatrickC: youll like it Sep 11 16:19:49 PatrickC: and if you stumble just join #archlinux on this network Sep 11 17:13:50 yt ShiftyAxel? Sep 11 17:14:19 I just had an app launched from the wave launcher open non-interactively as has been described before Sep 11 17:14:34 as if it is part of the wallpaper Sep 11 17:14:43 using the 4.9.4 build from git Sep 11 17:14:50 app was calendar Sep 11 17:14:58 can you describe repro steps? Sep 11 17:17:28 while in this wirc session, opened the wave launcher and played with it, sliding my finger back and forth, then finally stopped on calender. it opened, but I can't interact with it. I repeated with photos (excluding the back-and-forth part) and it did th Sep 11 17:17:28 e same thing. the window does not appear fully opened, there is a gap at the bottom Sep 11 17:19:47 something I just remembered. in both cases the foreground app started sliding over as I slid my finger onto the screen, before the wave opened, presumably because I have fluid gestures turned on Sep 11 17:20:01 that part is very repeatable Sep 11 17:22:24 changed gesture detection to slide, now the foreground app tends to slide over before the wave opens Sep 11 17:22:31 but the apps don't get stuck Sep 11 17:23:15 sounds like it's conflicting with the upwise Sep 11 17:23:22 s/upwise/upswipe/ Sep 11 17:23:22 ShiftyAxel meant: sounds like it's conflicting with the upswipe Sep 11 17:23:42 i'm goanna be changing the trigger mode again shortly Sep 11 17:23:53 upwards swipe on the left/right bezel Sep 11 17:24:06 using swipe detection, nothing strange happens :-) Sep 11 17:24:59 ya, fluid gestures are a good deal more complex than slide Sep 11 17:25:04 (and better) Sep 11 17:25:09 :) Sep 11 17:41:34 sorry, tried to close photos from jstop, Luna restarted and didn't come back Sep 11 18:07:08 Where are the target params defined for a build? Sep 11 18:07:24 say if i want to target armv6 instead etc Sep 11 18:07:30 enable hard fpu Sep 11 18:11:00 aaa801, YMMV Sep 11 18:11:13 eah? Sep 11 18:11:42 if you go outside the parameters that are defined...you are on your own :D Sep 11 18:12:17 ie HP won't support or listen to this. Sep 11 18:13:02 Aware of Sep 11 18:13:07 i think i found the folders Sep 11 18:13:15 aparantly there is a configuration for armv6 and 7 already Sep 11 18:13:26 aaa801@pizzaBox32:~/devshiz/build-webos/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-bsp/formfactor/files$ ls Sep 11 18:13:26 config machconfig qemuarm qemuarmv6 qemuarmv7 qemumips qemuppc qemux86 qemux86-64 Sep 11 18:14:00 yup...have fun! (dunno about HF however) Sep 11 18:14:07 by the pricking of my thumbs, a pull request from mansandersson this way comes Sep 11 18:14:17 Gah, the cpu options arnt in there Sep 11 18:14:18 * aaa801 rages Sep 11 18:14:33 ShiftyAxel: yes, the keyboard auto-correct thingy we discussed a couple of days ago Sep 11 18:14:57 looking good, i'll get it merged in a while for testing in the next rc Sep 11 18:17:56 ok where the balls is it :@ Sep 11 18:22:08 aaa801, for what build? Sep 11 18:22:13 arm Sep 11 18:22:27 i need to know where the stuff like cpu type revision and fpu is defined Sep 11 18:25:22 ka6sox: do you know where its located Sep 11 18:29:12 Also, why no gui on arm yet Sep 11 18:29:33 because it's not ready? Sep 11 18:29:54 OWO isn't at 1.0 yet, so there are some unfinished things Sep 11 18:30:02 ~eta Sep 11 18:30:02 hmm... eta is We do not provide ETA's. for more information view http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ETA Sep 11 18:30:34 ~botsnack Sep 11 18:30:35 sorry had to do it :-) Sep 11 18:30:35 aw, gee, ShiftyAxel Sep 11 18:30:38 good WoceBot Sep 11 18:30:56 Ok so, no one knows where the build params are defined =/? Sep 11 18:31:10 I know nussing . Sep 11 18:31:52 well, I do know the coders of the email app did some odd things Sep 11 18:32:56 need to check the ce/owos version to see how similar they are Sep 11 18:33:34 the closest i can find is meta-webos/conf/machine/webosarm.conf Sep 11 18:33:35 aaa801, WHICH BUILD? Sep 11 18:33:46 okay now I can see what you are doing... Sep 11 18:33:46 OE Sep 11 18:33:48 i already said way up , qemuarm Sep 11 18:34:14 i have it running on my board already, just targeted wrongly so its laggy as hell Sep 11 18:34:27 they are in the conf/machine directory Sep 11 18:35:00 but there isnt one thats for armv5 Sep 11 18:35:06 which is what its being targetted too atm Sep 11 18:35:43 iirc qemuarm(no number) is armv5 Sep 11 18:36:09 but there isnt a file in that folder for that Sep 11 18:36:23 so i want to know where that is being defined for it Sep 11 18:36:24 =/ Sep 11 18:38:08 iirc that is provided in oe-core as it is one of the 6 arches we regress for oe-core Sep 11 18:38:33 Where abouts would that be in a build tree? Sep 11 18:39:35 o openembedded-core Sep 11 18:40:04 Yes, thats it Sep 11 18:40:05 https://github.com/openembedded/oe-core/tree/master/meta/conf/machine Sep 11 18:40:06 Thankyou :D Sep 11 18:40:25 yw Sep 11 18:40:44 i saw something in one of the files about hard fpu breaking the 3d core and a few binarys Sep 11 18:40:45 ? Sep 11 18:41:13 I read something about that too...but didn't have time to investigate further. Sep 11 19:02:21 Ok got that set to armv6 Sep 11 19:02:28 made a new cpu defination Sep 11 19:02:35 and a new build type Sep 11 19:43:07 ShifyAxel let me know when you have a new build you need to have tested Sep 11 19:43:43 * Grabber5_0 adds ShifyAxel to autocorrect dictionary on his Touchpad Sep 11 19:43:57 lol Sep 11 19:44:28 It's ShiftyAxel, not ShifyAxel Sep 11 19:44:44 you added the wrong thing :P Sep 11 19:44:46 otherwise it was inevitable I was going to call him ShortCake at some point :p Sep 11 19:44:50 ya, shifty Sep 11 19:44:55 :| Sep 11 19:44:58 ugh Sep 11 19:45:04 or ShortFalls, that one seems popular with autocorrects... Sep 11 19:45:06 trololo Sep 11 19:45:20 that's another typo I keep making.. leaving out the t Sep 11 19:45:41 darn fingers! no, I blame the vkb!! Sep 11 19:45:50 funny enough, ShiftyAxel is the one user on here my Pre3 doesn't try to autocorrect Sep 11 19:45:57 even tho' it underlines it Sep 11 19:46:10 Ok ShiftyAxel, lets try that again Sep 11 19:46:12 and autocorrects every other word :P Sep 11 19:46:13 lol, my name is too strange for it to comprehend :) Sep 11 19:46:18 lol Sep 11 19:46:36 * Grabber5_0 cleans up autocorrect dictionary Sep 11 19:46:44 btw, love the autocomplete in Wirc Sep 11 19:46:57 so useful Sep 11 19:47:58 * Grabber5_0 mourns the passing of ShifyAxel :-P Sep 11 19:48:08 lol Sep 11 19:48:21 autocomplete? Sep 11 19:48:51 sadly, it doesn't autocorrect it correctly even after adding it Sep 11 19:48:52 yea, I can autocomplete nicks in wIRC Sep 11 19:49:05 with Gesture+Opt Sep 11 19:51:10 IIRC, the dictionary is more of a whitelist Sep 11 19:52:23 I can't seem to find those keys on my touchpad :'( Sep 11 19:53:03 lol, 'tis a shame. Sep 11 19:53:25 so anyway, ShiftyAxel, let me know when you are ready for me to test a new build :-) Sep 11 19:53:42 once again, real keyboards win out, :P Sep 11 19:53:48 Is there any way attall to get a gui up on the arm build? Sep 11 19:54:12 not until this month's release, aaa Sep 11 19:54:18 unless you want to code one Sep 11 19:54:22 eek Sep 11 19:54:36 How do i pull the latest files from the git repos btw? Sep 11 19:54:51 * Grabber5_0 could use that BT keyboard sitting next to him Sep 11 19:54:56 git fetch origin master Sep 11 19:55:12 would that overwrite any changes ive made? Sep 11 19:55:21 i added a new cpu defination for the rpi Sep 11 19:55:45 git fetch pulls into a separate branch for your remote Sep 11 19:55:55 then you have to merge it yourself Sep 11 19:56:31 ShiftyAxel: oh tat Sep 11 19:56:54 damn small keys! /not my day Sep 11 19:56:59 lol Sep 11 19:58:29 aaa, this site will be very useful to you in learning Git: http://git-scm.com/book Sep 11 19:58:45 Thanks Sep 11 19:58:50 yw Sep 11 20:00:47 Stop teaching us to fish, I just want you to give me a fish ;) j/k thanks for the link Sep 11 20:02:12 wow, so git clone is gonna pull down a *whole bunch* of stuff Sep 11 20:02:32 as if I need another project, I want to pull it down and start looking at it to see if I can help out anywhere Sep 11 20:02:59 when I'm not patching the 3.0.5 email app or the 2.x messaging app Sep 11 20:03:56 lol Sep 11 20:04:18 mansandersson: pull request merged, ty! Sep 11 20:04:32 patching the 2.x messaging app for what? Sep 11 20:06:18 sms auto-forward/reply Sep 11 20:07:19 a few people keep asking when I'm going to get the app working on 2.x. I think it will be easier to patch the messaging app. that will also make the people that don't want the dashboard icon happy Sep 11 20:08:56 ah Sep 11 20:09:20 ok so i did git add Sep 11 20:09:21 added the files Sep 11 20:09:24 then did git commit Sep 11 20:09:27 What now :s Sep 11 20:09:53 what are you trying to do? Sep 11 20:10:20 submit the extra cpu def to github Sep 11 20:11:41 ok, and you're trying to merge your code into the most recent code? Sep 11 20:11:48 yes Sep 11 20:13:02 ok, have you already done the git fetch command I told you? Sep 11 20:13:09 juts did that now Sep 11 20:13:14 k Sep 11 20:13:33 what branch are your changes in? Sep 11 20:13:40 I didnt make a branch Sep 11 20:13:53 so it's in the master? Sep 11 20:13:56 yes Sep 11 20:14:34 ok. Next time, make a branch for your changes. :P The master should be your stable, not your working directory Sep 11 20:14:43 Ok Sep 11 20:14:43 :p Sep 11 20:14:55 anyways, you're in the master branch right now, then? Sep 11 20:15:07 ye Sep 11 20:15:43 k Sep 11 20:16:08 run git checkout -b changes Sep 11 20:16:26 ok Sep 11 20:16:27 now Sep 11 20:16:28 ? Sep 11 20:16:51 paste your output of "git branch" here Sep 11 20:17:05 * changes Sep 11 20:17:05 master Sep 11 20:17:19 k Sep 11 20:17:38 now use git merge origin/master Sep 11 20:17:52 done Sep 11 20:18:07 no errors? Sep 11 20:18:14 nope Sep 11 20:18:35 ok, test your code to make sure that everything still works :P Sep 11 20:18:50 and then let me know Sep 11 20:19:02 ye the files are still there Sep 11 20:19:08 its just a extra .conf and a extra .inc Sep 11 20:19:14 it doesnt realy interfere with anything :) Sep 11 20:19:15 k Sep 11 20:19:26 then use git checkout master Sep 11 20:19:42 and then git merge changes Sep 11 20:20:14 done Sep 11 20:20:32 ok, now git branch -d changes Sep 11 20:20:40 then git push Sep 11 20:21:04 remote end hung up Sep 11 20:21:49 oh, your upstream is set as the official repo, isn't it? Sep 11 20:21:59 probs Sep 11 20:22:11 Whatdo? Sep 11 20:22:14 did you fork it on github? Sep 11 20:22:22 no Sep 11 20:22:25 Grabber5_0: new build being pushed for testing soon Sep 11 20:22:32 I'm just compiling it now Sep 11 20:23:38 ok, you are going to need to fork it on github so you have a repo to push to Sep 11 20:23:40 will prob have to test it after my daughter's softball game ShiftyAxel (btw are nicknames case-sensitive?) Sep 11 20:24:02 urgha Sep 11 20:24:04 il just leave it for now Sep 11 20:24:05 ;) Sep 11 20:24:05 ShiftyAxel: Can you help aaa with this? This will be hard for me to explain through my phone Sep 11 20:24:06 Grabber5_0: I don't think so, but not 100% sure Sep 11 20:24:18 also that's all good Sep 11 20:24:21 ShiftyAxel: do we still have a line to the devs at hp? Sep 11 20:24:27 mhm i think that repo pull screwed my build system Sep 11 20:24:30 anyone else up for testing a new build? Sep 11 20:24:34 Bitbake version 1.15.3 is required and version 1.15.2 was found Sep 11 20:24:35 hey shiftyaxel Sep 11 20:24:39 HaDAk_: probably, why do you ask? Sep 11 20:24:51 ShiftyAxel: i'd like to consult with them about the email app Sep 11 20:24:51 GodGinrai, aaa801: what seems to be the problem? Sep 11 20:24:58 HaDAk_: why? Sep 11 20:25:02 bitbake is now outdated =/ Sep 11 20:25:36 ShiftyAxel: some of the coding/design decisions don't make any sense...even the code comments say it's fucked up. i'm trying to solve a problem, but I can't figure out how to work around their hacks Sep 11 20:25:42 ShiftyAxel: aaa didn't fork the project on github, so his upstream right now is the official repo Sep 11 20:25:46 HaDAk - gonna yell at them for being stoopid? Sep 11 20:26:38 my take: they were in a huge frickin hurry and had to do whatever they could to get it ready Sep 11 20:27:02 GodGinrai, aaa801: personally I would copy the contents of the local repo out to somewhere else, delete the original, fork it on github, clone that down then paste the contents back in and commit them piece-by-piece to make it neat Sep 11 20:27:06 perhaps. i'd still like to work with them on it. i understand *why* it's been done, after playing with it...but I need to work with them to fix it. Sep 11 20:27:16 oky Sep 11 20:27:24 i also seem to of broken my build system Sep 11 20:27:42 lol Sep 11 20:27:44 HaDAk_: I don't think they offer lessons, I'd take it up in the enyo forums Sep 11 20:27:55 ShiftyAxel: it's not a lesson i'm looking for Sep 11 20:28:15 i'd like to know the logic that went into some of their decisions Sep 11 20:28:28 Pseudo may be out of date, rebuilding pseudo before the main build Sep 11 20:28:29 ERROR: Unable to determine endianness for architecture 'INVALID' Sep 11 20:28:29 :s Sep 11 20:28:56 aaa801: please pastebin terminal output to avoid cluttering the channel Sep 11 20:29:10 it was 2 lines.. Sep 11 20:29:39 ShiftyAxel: Pastebin should be for multiline output, shouldn't it? Sep 11 20:29:46 ssshh Sep 11 20:29:47 HaDAk_: the people that made the email app are probably gone by now Sep 11 20:30:00 ShiftyAxel: we don't know that for sure. it doesn't hurt to ask. Sep 11 20:30:01 ya, links > lots of pasted lines Sep 11 20:30:19 HaDAk_: then tweet it @EnyoJS or @unwiredben Sep 11 20:30:26 or post in the forums Sep 11 20:30:27 my tweets are private :P Sep 11 20:30:38 you made the bed, you lie in it Sep 11 20:30:47 lol Sep 11 20:31:04 you scared him off :P Sep 11 20:31:27 * ShiftyAxel has no sympathy for people that make you request permission to view their 140-character comments on life Sep 11 20:31:44 lol Sep 11 20:32:00 * Grabber5_0 has no use for Twitter Sep 11 20:32:24 The only reason I even got twitter is because too many people use it for updates nowadays Sep 11 20:32:49 TUNE_FEATURES = "armv6 vfp arm1176jzf-s" Sep 11 20:32:49 huzzah Sep 11 20:33:06 lol Sep 11 20:33:25 qt4 is complaining about EGL/egl.h being missing Sep 11 20:34:14 aaa801: do you have EGL libs/headers installed? Sep 11 20:34:28 it compiled fine before =/ Sep 11 20:34:33 $ Sep 11 20:34:36 http://troll.ws/paste/8790b616 Sep 11 20:34:39 oops Sep 11 20:35:28 ShiftyAxel: http://troll.ws/paste/8790b616 Sep 11 20:35:45 is there an echo in here? Sep 11 20:35:51 yess Sep 11 20:36:01 I already read it, and it does indeed say that EGL is missing Sep 11 20:36:12 How do i go about fixing? Sep 11 20:36:18 * ShiftyAxel does not know Sep 11 20:36:24 it was fine before i updated the git repos Sep 11 20:36:25 ShiftyAxel - curious how long the build for Luna takes (not asking for an ETA :D ) Sep 11 20:36:31 prob shouldnt of updated them half way through a build Sep 11 20:36:34 =/ Sep 11 20:36:55 Grabber5_0: the build's done, but people keep asking me questions :P Sep 11 20:37:04 aaa801: nuke it and reclone? Sep 11 20:37:06 LOL Sep 11 20:37:16 Il just nuke the build directory Sep 11 20:37:22 So, not real long then apparently Sep 11 20:37:23 its prob some path change Sep 11 20:38:54 Grabber5_0: not really no, especially if you've fully compiled at least once, then it only compiles the stuff that's changed Sep 11 20:39:11 Grabber5_0: new binaries now available Sep 11 20:39:23 any other testers: NEW BINARIES NOW AVAILABLE, GET YER BINARIES Sep 11 20:40:17 LOL Sep 11 20:43:08 ye but i did the upgrade half way through a build Sep 11 20:43:16 prob not the best time todo a upgrade Sep 11 20:44:46 ~make aaa801 Sep 11 20:44:46 * WoceBot compiles aaa801 and links him against the wrong libraries Sep 11 20:44:56 noes Sep 11 20:44:56 D: Sep 11 20:45:14 well atleast this pc can get through a build in about a hour and a half :3 Sep 11 20:47:58 was testing out the new wave launcher. Having notes open, opening the wave launcher and launching mail app, switching back to notes (side-swipe) and then minimize and got this weird look :-P https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5179395/testing_wawelauncher.png Sep 11 20:48:15 don't have time to test more right now, but it might be worth looking into Sep 11 20:48:23 gnight Sep 11 21:01:56 ok just did a rebuid and got the bloody egl missing again Sep 11 21:03:09 restarting Sep 11 21:03:45 could be that something changed in the upstream that borks your build Sep 11 21:07:09 why does meta-oe and meta-webos always fail to checkout with mcf Sep 11 21:08:06 what do you mean? Sep 11 21:08:29 Permission denied (publickey). Sep 11 21:10:27 not sure... Sep 11 21:11:17 howdy Grabber Sep 11 21:11:40 aaa801: are you trying to clone with git@github.com:etcetc Sep 11 21:11:41 ? Sep 11 21:11:46 aha, dont think my ssh key is registered Sep 11 21:13:44 so far so good on 4.9.5 ShiftyAxel Sep 11 21:14:08 Grabber: test candidates are keyboard switching via the little button next to the keyboard, and wave launcher in general Sep 11 21:14:25 wave launcher is now triggered by an up-slide on the left or right screen edges Sep 11 21:14:49 *space bar, not keyboard Sep 11 21:15:40 ew that label is wordy Sep 11 21:16:14 ya, but for now it's what we've got, and informative Sep 11 21:16:28 interesting that you can open the wave launcher while the launcher is open :) Sep 11 21:16:58 that was intended, reckon it should be different? Sep 11 21:17:32 it's okay, just surprising Sep 11 21:19:17 okay, what do you think of it visually? I modeled it after the original WL using a wallpaper of it :) Sep 11 21:20:38 looks good. only thing that would be better is if it had the soft edge like on the phone. Sep 11 21:20:50 ya, that's proved difficult Sep 11 21:21:02 and functionally? Sep 11 21:21:28 functionally I don't see any issues Sep 11 21:21:38 sweet, so would you call this a success? Sep 11 21:21:42 do we have 2/3? Sep 11 21:21:48 seems to behave the same Sep 11 21:21:54 who was 1? Sep 11 21:21:57 me Sep 11 21:22:15 I thought devs didn't count :) Sep 11 21:22:22 turns out they do Sep 11 21:22:26 :) Sep 11 21:22:35 I'm aware that it's missing the app name text above the icon btw Sep 11 21:22:49 currently the code is there, but due to the scaling it's all pixelated and 'orrible Sep 11 21:23:02 so I turned it off, less 'wahwahwah ugly' from the users Sep 11 21:24:25 yeah good idea Sep 11 21:24:45 or give 'em the old "shut up it's alpha" Sep 11 21:24:49 hehe Sep 11 21:24:58 ideally in time i'd like to improve the scaling code to use higher-res versions of the icons if available Sep 11 21:25:07 same with the text Sep 11 21:25:11 but we saw how that went with rev 1 Sep 11 21:25:36 indeed Sep 11 21:25:43 ShiftyAxel: if you hold your finger between two icons both gets highlighted Sep 11 21:26:30 falchie: I'm not seeing this, which orientation? and you're only using the one finger, right? Sep 11 21:26:53 one finger, landscape Sep 11 21:27:42 on mine two icons are never lit simultaneously, none if my finger is between two of them Sep 11 21:27:51 falchie: how many icons do you have in your dock? Sep 11 21:28:06 8 Sep 11 21:28:21 funny, mine only has five Sep 11 21:29:27 i have the "no launcher button" patch installed Sep 11 21:29:35 bingo Sep 11 21:30:05 it's preferred that testers run unpatched, if a patch breaks something then it's not really down to us to fix it... Sep 11 21:30:40 though admittedly in this case, the QL code should be calculating it dynamically Sep 11 21:31:37 fair enough, i removed the patch and it's working beautifully :) Sep 11 22:39:57 ~psa As of LunaCE 4.9.5 we are doing a 'feature freeze' until we have a stable release. See http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze for details Sep 11 22:39:57 * WoceBot PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: As of LunaCE 4.9.5 we are doing a 'feature freeze' until we have a stable release. See http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze for details Sep 11 22:47:40 cool Sep 11 23:30:53 sounds good Sep 12 00:23:15 Anyone else having trouble with the latest repos? Sep 12 00:31:04 aaa801: which repos would these be? Sep 12 00:44:28 feature freeze? does this mean we've run out of ideas? hah Sep 12 00:45:25 EricBlade, nope..means we want to squish all the bugs to get to a stable! Sep 12 00:45:50 I think the side swiping has a new bug Sep 12 00:46:27 need to revert and reinstall 4.9.5 to be sure Sep 12 00:46:40 EricBlade: new ideas go in the alpha feed Sep 12 00:47:24 yes yes i was trying to be humorous Sep 12 00:47:44 EricBlade, Good Humor Man :D Sep 12 00:49:39 on anything but fluid, with tabbed cards disabled, a sideways gesture only lets you get to the top card in the stack Sep 12 00:50:44 instead of swiping through the stack before moving to the next stack Sep 12 00:50:55 any questions before I revert? Sep 12 00:51:38 I have one: who took my Mt Dew? :-P Sep 12 00:58:16 * Grabber5_0 grumbles because xchat didn't load the recent chat history Sep 12 00:58:22 so.. github tells me that it's not possible to do a pull request on github from a repo as large as webkit Sep 12 01:03:22 ShiftyAxel: when doing ./mcf from a blank tree Sep 12 01:04:05 get egl related errors 3/4 way through build Sep 12 01:04:08 when building qt4 Sep 12 01:05:17 yup... you do Sep 12 01:07:24 4.9.0 is doing the same thing.. perhaps I didn't notice because I have had it set to fluid for a while. Sep 12 01:08:23 Grabber5_0, are you documenting this in issues.webos-ports.org including EXACTLY what you did to install it, and EXACTLY how to recreate the issue? Sep 12 01:11:13 EricBlade: webkit is too large... Sep 12 01:16:12 panda-z, QT-WebKit? Sep 12 01:18:45 ka6sox: no, i mean the isis-project/WebKit repo, it contains a huge of history info, so it became incredibly large Sep 12 01:37:11 is webos picky about what kernel it runs under? Sep 12 01:39:01 yes Sep 12 01:39:18 Realy =/?, Sep 12 01:39:24 openWebOS not so much. Sep 12 01:39:33 Ok Sep 12 01:39:45 the rpi patchs arnt mainstreamed yet Sep 12 01:39:55 so il just copy in the kernel modules Sep 12 01:40:14 um...you are doing this on a rpi? Sep 12 01:40:40 doing what on the pi? Sep 12 01:40:46 im compiling on my desktop Sep 12 01:40:55 and then copying the rootfs to the sdcard Sep 12 01:52:40 cannot accolate pseudo tty Sep 12 01:52:49 is that of any importance? Sep 12 01:52:49 aaa801, is your target the Pi? Sep 12 01:52:51 yes Sep 12 01:52:58 hmmm... Sep 12 01:53:01 bbiaw..dinner Sep 12 01:53:06 it works atm Sep 12 01:53:14 lovely terminal screen :p Sep 12 01:53:20 I want to get it going on my beagleboard Sep 12 01:53:25 just for the funsies Sep 12 01:53:38 and for the fact that my beagle has had absolutely no love... Sep 12 01:54:16 beagle is armv7 right Sep 12 01:58:47 not 100% sure, I've never actually used it proper... Sep 12 01:59:04 the lack of an ethernet or powered USB port has made life more difficult than i'd have liked Sep 12 02:00:31 =/ Sep 12 02:00:45 the qemuarm image worked prety much out of the box for the pi Sep 12 02:01:09 'pretty much'? Sep 12 02:01:20 * ShiftyAxel orders a powered usb hub Sep 12 02:01:41 well fstab needs changing Sep 12 02:01:47 to mount mmcblk0p1 as /boot Sep 12 02:02:04 and need to copy in the kernel modules Sep 12 02:04:14 it says cannot allocate pseudo tty before login term appears Sep 12 02:04:15 =/ Sep 12 02:05:42 aha thats kernel related Sep 12 02:05:43 rage.. Sep 12 02:07:06 time to compile a new kernel i guess Sep 12 02:07:10 hey ka6sox are you around? Sep 12 02:08:58 invalidopcode, for small values Sep 12 02:12:13 invalidopcode, pingu? Sep 12 02:12:30 ka6sox: oh okay. Actually I have to go now. I saw one the webos-ports page that your do VHDL/Verilog.... those are things I'm kindof interested in, so I wondering if I could ask you some questions later Sep 12 02:12:50 invalidopcode, yes Sep 12 02:12:56 call me later Sep 12 02:13:06 maybe :P Sep 12 02:13:11 haha okay thanks! Sep 12 02:13:26 hokay fine :D Sep 12 02:14:34 ka6sox - I have not yet as I had to run right after I downloaded 4.9.5 and was reporting to ShiftyAxel on here. I'm working right now but when I get a few minutes I will open an issue. I was hoping someone in here would confirm my findings Sep 12 02:16:40 Grabber5_0, okay...gettting late for ShiftyAxel ...he may be keyboard diving now... Sep 12 02:17:49 getting late for me :( I stayed up way too late working on a patch for the email app Sep 12 02:19:56 * ShiftyAxel does a triple somersault into the keyboard Sep 12 02:20:19 a 9.5 from the Australian Judge! Sep 12 02:20:21 10! Sep 12 02:21:14 * Grabber5_0 wonders why he had to put so many pause statements in this script he has to keep running Sep 12 02:22:35 * ShiftyAxel spends 5 minutes picking keycaps out of his face Sep 12 02:26:31 all that for *only* a 9.75 Sep 12 02:28:03 folks Sep 12 02:28:04 hey ka6sox Sep 12 02:28:33 bhuey_, Sep 12 02:28:40 how goes Sep 12 02:34:05 just chill'n Sep 12 02:48:20 bedtime, nn all Sep 12 02:49:43 kudos on the 4.9.5 wave launcher. its miles ahead of where you started. Sep 12 02:50:13 and the language button looks much better Sep 12 02:50:48 this is like christmas Sep 12 02:50:55 :-) Sep 12 02:51:42 only issue I see is not being able to launch the wave when the keyboard is showing Sep 12 02:54:24 HaDAk-TP, its a Feature... Sep 12 02:54:32 oh Sep 12 02:55:11 I saw your article on webosnation Sep 12 02:55:31 I'm glad the focus is on customizability, cause that screenshot is hideous, lol Sep 12 02:55:49 * HaDAk-TP just found a bug in luna Sep 12 02:57:13 which one is that? Sep 12 02:58:08 wave can't display over the keyboard as it's in a separate 'window' to LSM. pull requests for a complete rewrite of the rendering code are welcome against alpha branchzzzzz Sep 12 02:58:28 lol Sep 12 02:58:51 oh, gotcha Sep 12 02:59:21 anyway. when switching to thumbnail view, the neighboring card to the stack is under the thumbnails Sep 12 02:59:57 I'd give you a screenshot, but apparently the browser has no file browse mechanism **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 12 02:59:59 2012