**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 18 02:59:59 2012 Sep 18 04:12:21 FYI, regarding the LunaCE on Pre3 discussion earlier: https://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/247910715032227840 Sep 18 06:07:52 good .. uh.. whatever, everyone Sep 18 06:08:40 well loook who it is Sep 18 06:11:34 morning EricBlade-TP Sep 18 06:12:06 howdy! Sep 18 06:12:10 I should be zzzzzzzzzz Sep 18 06:13:46 yes, you are on MY Time now :P Sep 18 06:22:01 yeah .. but my touchpad says it's 2am Sep 18 06:29:31 heh Sep 18 06:35:00 Morning, all Sep 18 06:37:27 Mawnin Sep 18 06:37:28 oh, I may have just got some insight on the banner icon corruption Sep 18 06:37:32 a little bit of insihgt Sep 18 06:37:44 2.2.4 just gave me the wrong icon entirely for a banner notification Sep 18 06:37:46 good...because its fuzzy to me... Sep 18 06:37:49 so it's probably pushing a pointer too far Sep 18 06:37:55 ah Sep 18 06:37:58 yay pointer bugs! Sep 18 06:38:04 :( Sep 18 06:38:15 the more abstract you get... Sep 18 06:38:34 "I'll infer this URL for you!" Sep 18 06:57:17 so, yeah, I uploaded a photo with facebook Sep 18 06:57:27 and the banner telling me it was completed was the Pandora icon Sep 18 06:57:51 and the Pandora and Facebook icons are right next to each other on the launcher Sep 18 07:40:23 hi there - is there any point i can get information about existing webos ports? Sep 18 07:40:37 i mean some webpage ;) Sep 18 07:41:12 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Main_Page ok, got it :) Sep 18 07:41:51 yup...thats the mainpage. Sep 18 07:42:02 yeah, just reading Sep 18 07:51:29 mh, there is nothing on mh, i can't find anything on porting it to android tablets, I assume that i much depends on the availability of hw drivers? Sep 18 07:52:00 mh? Sep 18 07:52:11 sorry, mistyped Sep 18 07:52:41 i just was wondering what the chances are that i can get it running on my 7'' android tablet Sep 18 07:53:06 [00:51] mh, there is nothing on mh, i can't find anything on porting it to android tablets, I assume that i much depends on the availability of hw drivers? <<< Accurate Statement Sep 18 07:53:49 when i understand it correctly, if i get a linux kernel running with the hardware working then webos should work there as well Sep 18 07:53:49 so...depending on your tablet manuf and SoC you may or may not have enough to make it play Sep 18 07:54:36 stskeeps has worked on a wrapper for Android Kernel to allow use unmodified kernel with this shim and glibc libs Sep 18 07:54:48 yeah, it's an amlogix soc, they released some source code but I have not yet checked if it is completee or what is missing Sep 18 07:55:01 amlogic Sep 18 07:55:07 7926? Sep 18 07:55:07 * tachikoma needs coffee Sep 18 07:55:43 AML8726-M6 - yes Sep 18 07:56:08 that is not Cortex-A9 version right? Sep 18 07:57:17 tbh i'm not sure Sep 18 07:57:24 kk Sep 18 07:57:45 it seems to be Sep 18 07:58:05 it would be good if you could document on wiki anything you find so that you and others can see how far you can get. Sep 18 07:58:10 it is Mali video? Sep 18 07:58:25 It's a dualcore 1.5ghz, the tablet i have is a 'ainol novo 7 flame' Sep 18 07:58:31 yes, with mali video Sep 18 07:59:16 ka6sox: i will document it, np. Just don;t have too much time, so might be slow (two small kids) Sep 18 07:59:33 okay, I would be interested in any information you could document on this as people are looking for targets :D Sep 18 07:59:42 sure, will do asap Sep 18 07:59:44 understood...I have a 10yr old too...keeps me busy! Sep 18 07:59:55 1 year and 3 year - veeery busy ;) Sep 18 08:00:23 anyway, thanx, will hang around here and let you knwo when i have something new Sep 18 08:00:24 please sign up for wiki when you have time, and let someone here know so you can be promoted to edit. Sep 18 08:00:43 okay sounds good... Sep 18 08:00:50 as you get time...we are all volunteers. Sep 18 08:01:35 ok, need to do some of the work i get payed for now ;) Sep 18 08:01:42 Good Plan Sep 18 12:47:00 whew, laptop upgrade complete Sep 18 12:47:05 that was a hair-raising process Sep 18 16:17:06 hey guys Sep 18 16:20:52 good morning Sep 18 16:21:29 I tried using wirc on my pre3 last night, then a few minutes later when I pulled my phone out of my pocket it had rebooted Sep 18 16:21:55 reckon wirc was the cause? Sep 18 16:22:27 Not sure yet, though it was the only thing I had running that I haven't been using every other day already Sep 18 16:24:16 eblade_pre3, which version of wirc are you using? Sep 18 16:37:12 I've had reboots on my Pre3 as well, and noticed some buggyness in wIRC, but I wasn't sure if they were related Sep 18 16:38:56 Although, most (not all) of my reboots were instigated by me because my Pre3 would not respond when I plugged it in while the screen was off, into a PC Sep 18 17:49:56 morning Sep 18 17:51:12 sorry.. was just updating the corrupt notification ticket and reading the logs and then had to eat lunch Sep 18 17:51:18 forgot to close this out Sep 18 17:53:00 np Sep 18 17:53:25 seems I can recreate it 100% of the time with Music Player Remix Sep 18 17:54:04 Going to reinstall stock Luna and see if it is 100% of the time there too.. I know this is a long-standing bug, but seems useful to check Sep 18 17:54:59 I wrote the update kind of fast, hopefully it is clear Sep 18 17:55:54 need to get back to work. have a meeting in 5 Sep 18 18:47:47 ~morningall Sep 18 18:48:03 ah argument is mandatory Sep 18 19:01:27 anyone know how to get around github being blocked at work? Sep 18 19:01:40 proxy? Sep 18 19:02:14 finding an unblocked proxy isn't the easiest thing either Sep 18 19:02:31 hi Sep 18 19:09:10 morning EricBlade-TP Sep 18 19:09:23 I see you checked in at gram HQ earlier Sep 18 19:52:31 morning all Sep 18 19:53:26 ~morningall smelly socks Sep 18 19:53:26 * WoceBot picks up smelly socks and waves them at the channel Sep 18 19:54:28 * Geekpeter sniffs the sock and licks it Sep 18 19:55:06 ewwwww Sep 18 19:56:24 morning Geekpeter Sep 18 19:56:39 evening Sep 18 19:56:59 what's new? Sep 18 19:57:08 not a hell of a lot Sep 18 19:57:29 reading a book while not a hell of a lot happens Sep 18 19:58:22 looks like someone on WOSN has put together a meta-doctor script to put 3.0.5 on a Pre3 Sep 18 19:58:50 apparently parts don't work, a lot like CE on Pre3 Sep 18 19:58:56 but it's interesting nonetheless Sep 18 19:59:01 different beats Sep 18 19:59:04 beats? Sep 18 19:59:06 beasts* Sep 18 19:59:23 testing on the touchpad is not all that conducive to a productive day at work Sep 18 20:00:14 wosn? Sep 18 20:00:21 duh nm Sep 18 20:00:36 * Geekpeter slaps Grabber5_0 with a dunce cap Sep 18 20:01:04 * Grabber5_0 dons said dunce cap Sep 18 20:01:15 * Geekpeter then throws the aforementioned sock for good measure Sep 18 20:01:31 * Geekpeter watches the sock stick to the cap and not move Sep 18 20:02:09 that is interesting.. shame I don't have a Pre3 Sep 18 20:02:16 not that I would risk it Sep 18 20:02:33 the joys of having something you cant replace easily or at all Sep 18 20:02:35 if I had one I'd be using it Sep 18 20:02:43 yup Sep 18 20:02:51 heh, yeah… I baby mine Sep 18 20:03:05 I cringe whenever I let one of the kids use one of my Touchpads Sep 18 20:03:17 nearly threw my nephew out a window when i found hed picked my pre3 up to find some games Sep 18 20:03:29 lol! Sep 18 20:03:39 little sod cant get into it but could deffo drop the bloody thing Sep 18 20:03:56 ya, my mother put a wooden box on top of my pre3's screen the other week… I was highly displeased Sep 18 20:04:04 * Geekpeter strokes the pdair case and its nice relable hard plastic feeling Sep 18 20:04:10 Oo Sep 18 20:04:25 the USB mode on webOS is sad :( Sep 18 20:04:40 uh-oh, you made it do a fsck Sep 18 20:04:47 never used it since i got shiftys wifi app Sep 18 20:05:01 * ShiftyAxel still needs to rewrite that in Enyo2 Sep 18 20:05:05 and/or enyo drive mapper Sep 18 20:05:25 I haven't used the WiFi app in a while.. I don't transfer stuff that often Sep 18 20:05:31 had to use it to transfer Enyo from github to my work computer :( Sep 18 20:05:54 I haven't used it in ages, though that's mainly because I don't have it installed and the samba install takes ages... Sep 18 20:06:06 s/ages/a long time/ Sep 18 20:06:06 ShiftyAxel meant: I haven't used it in a long time, though that's mainly because I don't have it installed and the samba install takes ages... Sep 18 20:06:17 loved both those apps the otehr day at my geeky uncles house, used the phoen and tpad to do allsorts on his home network, meanwhiel my cousin sat at the back playing on my ipad3 till he got bored as it couldnt do jack shit technical/geeky wise Sep 18 20:06:44 gotta love shuffle mode.. 3 songs in a row from the same cd, and 4 of 5 in a row Sep 18 20:06:59 and amazingly enough my grandad sat with my 7" android tablet reading some books ¬ ¬ since when could that old cunt use gadgets Sep 18 20:07:15 rng 4tw Sep 18 20:07:46 hahaha, the aged only use gadgets autonomously when they think the techies aren't looking :P Sep 18 20:08:23 hes a man that struggles witha tv remote tho yet somehow found my book readers on an android tablet Sep 18 20:08:32 my mother taught me how to use a VCR remote with the play/pause/stop/fast forward etc… but these days apparently using a Sky+ remote to rewind/ff/pause is beyond her Sep 18 20:08:40 lol Sep 18 20:09:45 lol Sep 18 20:29:24 folks Sep 18 20:32:44 bhuey, Sep 18 20:33:13 hey Sep 18 20:33:23 about to head down from SF to SD Sep 18 20:33:39 might take long than I thought since I'm kind of slow at the moment Sep 18 20:40:52 I'm slow but thats every day Sep 18 23:33:04 * fxspec06 just made the coolest puller Sep 18 23:34:02 fxspec06: puller? Sep 18 23:34:04 http://i.imgur.com/NsAte.png Sep 18 23:34:12 for pulldownlist Sep 18 23:34:23 there's an *cough* undocumented puller kind Sep 18 23:34:47 you can set it in pulldownlist components block Sep 18 23:34:54 the default is a skinny arrow on the left Sep 18 23:35:33 I remember seeing a really cool enyo2 concept for one those, where the arrow would animate and curl around from straight into the 'refresh' icon Sep 18 23:35:35 i set made it a "tweet," made fat arrows, added another arrow, and made the 2nd arrow rotate outside Sep 18 23:35:50 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sep 18 23:41:55 that looks like some pretty serious thinking right there fxspec06 Sep 19 00:11:53 ShiftyAxel did you see my update on the corrupt dashboard notification icon ticket? Sep 19 00:12:14 yeah, good to know we have a consistent repro now Sep 19 00:12:36 is it only in banner notifications? Sep 19 00:12:58 I reinstalled stock Luna, and at first it was 100%, then for a while they looked normal, and after I closed/reopened Remix a few times, they were 100% corrupted again Sep 19 00:13:13 hmm Sep 19 00:13:17 yeah the notifications were the only corrupt ones. The dashboards themselves were not corrupted Sep 19 00:13:39 at least that narrows things down a little bit Sep 19 00:13:44 that was stock luna.. on CE I didn't get any non-corrupted ones, but it could have easily been happenstance Sep 19 00:13:58 EricBlade's managed to repro under CE I think Sep 19 00:14:16 I played with different combinations of the dashboards.. Remix has from 1 to 3 depending on how you set the preferences. By default I only keep one Sep 19 00:14:35 maybe it's some kind of memory issue, since CE seems to run smoother perhaps it's lighter and therefore the problem doesn't show as often Sep 19 00:15:08 no, it was the opposite.. under CE they were corrupted 100% of the time (so far) Sep 19 00:15:28 ohright Sep 19 00:15:30 hrm Sep 19 00:15:48 I noticed the 'miniicon' was 48px by 48px - not so mini Sep 19 00:16:03 I don't think size is a factor, at least not in terms of causing it Sep 19 00:16:16 thought that could have something to do with it.. so I copied that icon to my own app that sends notifications, but they were not corrupted Sep 19 00:16:37 mostly was just ruling out possiblities Sep 19 00:16:56 s/possiblities/possibilities/ Sep 19 00:16:56 Grabber5_0 meant: mostly was just ruling out possibilities Sep 19 00:18:14 I will try to write all of my results up in a way that is readable and add to the ticket Sep 19 00:18:35 hopefully it will help narrow it down a bit Sep 19 00:18:56 interestingly I didn't have to define the miniicon in my appinfo.json for it to pick it up and use it Sep 19 00:19:11 I did end up doing that as part of replicating how they are set up in Remix, but no change Sep 19 00:19:44 I also checked to see if he was using any different options on the notification Sep 19 00:20:28 at least it is not something critical :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 19 02:59:58 2012