**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:59:58 2012
Sep 20 03:05:59 <lagoldste> yeah, ctrl + tab is broken now
Sep 20 03:40:32 <EricBlade> what was the nickname here of the gentleman who created that awesome weather applet thing
Sep 20 03:41:15 <lagoldste> garret92 or something like that
Sep 20 03:41:26 <lagoldste> garrett92?
Sep 20 03:41:48 <lagoldste> the thread is in the touchpad apps forum
Sep 20 03:42:21 <lagoldste> the weather widget is great
Sep 20 03:46:03 <EricBlade> i need to chat with him sometime
Sep 20 04:35:21 <ka6sox> hiya
Sep 20 04:39:26 <ka6sox> lagoldste, let me add 4.9.8 to the list and lets bug this.
Sep 20 04:39:50 <lagoldste> open a new report or reopen an old one?
Sep 20 04:40:03 <ka6sox> was this fixed and is now borken?
Sep 20 04:40:12 <ka6sox> or always borken
Sep 20 04:40:35 <lagoldste> it was working in 4.9.7
Sep 20 04:40:59 <lagoldste> i could use ctrl + tab to cycle through a stack to my heart's content
Sep 20 04:41:29 <lagoldste> now the 1st press goes to tab mode, 2nd switches cards, no response to the rest
Sep 20 04:41:35 <lagoldste> gestures still work
Sep 20 04:41:48 <lagoldste> other kbd shortcuts still work
Sep 20 04:41:57 <ka6sox> okay lets do this...open a new bug against 4.9.8 and we will let him fixor tommorrow.
Sep 20 04:42:19 <lagoldste> ok. is there 4.9.8 in the issues dropdown menu?
Sep 20 04:43:13 <ka6sox> yes, its version number
Sep 20 04:43:23 <lagoldste> coolness
Sep 20 04:52:28 <lagoldste> ka6sox: did you notice my earlier comment about the behavior of ctrl + arrows? it goes through every card in a stack, which is the same behavior as the arrow keys by themselves in card mode. i would expect ctrl + tab to act like the stack was a single car
Sep 20 04:52:28 <lagoldste> d, like the gesture does
Sep 20 04:53:52 <lagoldste> ctrl + tab regression bug created
Sep 20 04:57:10 <ka6sox> lagoldste, thanks...I'll point it out to the Shifty one.
Sep 20 04:59:27 <lagoldste> was wondering if i should open another bug for that
Sep 20 04:59:47 <ka6sox> yes, please do so
Sep 20 05:00:02 <ka6sox> describe it the way you just did to me!
Sep 20 05:03:10 <lagoldste> just did. opened now
Sep 20 05:29:38 <ka6sox> lagoldste, thanks...I'll point out these 2 to ShiftyAxel tomorrow.
Sep 20 05:58:35 <lagoldste> ====>home!!
Sep 20 07:23:53 <EricBlade-TP> hey peeeps
Sep 20 07:39:56 <EricBlade-TP> hmm
Sep 20 07:40:04 <EricBlade-TP> busy morning here eh:-)
Sep 20 07:41:42 <bhuey> folks
Sep 20 14:19:51 <ka6sox> Yawn
Sep 20 16:31:25 * EricBlade ping
Sep 20 16:31:34 <PatrickC> hey EricBlade
Sep 20 16:31:39 * PatrickC wanders back in
Sep 20 16:36:35 <EricBlade> sup?
Sep 20 16:36:44 <PatrickC> not much
Sep 20 16:36:59 <PatrickC> trying to install ubuntu... not happy that they took out the "install along side windows" option
Sep 20 16:38:27 <EricBlade> emulation or seperate machines ftw
Sep 20 16:38:43 <PatrickC> meh
Sep 20 16:39:37 <summatusmentis> virtual machines are great
Sep 20 16:39:48 <summatusmentis> if you say otherwise, you're wrong
Sep 20 16:40:02 <PatrickC> oh, i love vms.. but not on my old laptop
Sep 20 16:40:12 <PatrickC> 3GB RAM and a first gen i3-370M processor
Sep 20 16:41:54 <summatusmentis> dude, I was running VMs on my core2duo CPU w/ 3GB of ram just fine
Sep 20 16:42:08 <scoutcamper> me as well
Sep 20 16:42:10 <PatrickC> not compiling OWOS i'm sure
Sep 20 16:42:46 <scoutcamper> no, i have my 2600k for that lol
Sep 20 16:43:14 <PatrickC> lol
Sep 20 16:46:11 <EricBlade> when i get back home, i'm going to explore the possibility of building some components using distcc
Sep 20 16:46:20 <summatusmentis> no, just compiling some kernel modules and things
Sep 20 16:47:23 * halfhalo shakes his fist
Sep 20 17:09:34 <Geekpeter> has the key sequence changed for taking a screenshot btw? beforehand id hold the power button and mash the other, now that turns my display off, and i have to hold the other button and power last to screenshot? normal now or has mine gone tits?
Sep 20 17:10:53 <aaa801> virtualbox running ubuntu
Sep 20 17:10:56 <aaa801> smooth :D
Sep 20 17:11:06 <ShiftyAxel> Geekpete: press them both at the same time?
Sep 20 17:11:14 <ShiftyAxel> s/pete/peter/
Sep 20 17:11:14 <WoceBot> ShiftyAxel meant: Geekpeter: press them both at the same time?
Sep 20 17:11:23 <Geekpeter> dunno never done that, always held one to avoid it messing up :D
Sep 20 17:11:56 <Geekpeter> also holding power atm doesnt bring up my powerdown/etc options
Sep 20 17:12:18 <ShiftyAxel> sounds like something's up
Sep 20 17:12:21 <Geekpeter> hold power for ages and nowt happens, when i let go i goto sleepmode
Sep 20 17:12:41 <Geekpeter> i shall tryeth some installs/uninstalls etc
Sep 20 17:15:24 <ShiftyAxel> holding home + power for 15secs will cause a reboot
Sep 20 17:15:45 <Geekpeter> it shoudl yes, i tried but atm it doesnt do anythign except put the device to sleep when i release :D
Sep 20 17:16:10 <Geekpeter> trying a palm luna and back to luance, as i usually do that but didnt last upgrade
Sep 20 17:21:56 <ShiftyAxel> ah, HaDAk had some issues with that
Sep 20 17:21:57 <ShiftyAxel> ]
Sep 20 17:22:15 <ShiftyAxel> which is weird, because it shouldn't cause any issues...
Sep 20 17:27:34 <Geekpeter> its working now ive gone to palm and back to lunace ¬ ¬
Sep 20 17:28:01 <Geekpeter> think ill always go back to palm first before upgrading just incase, thsi is the first time i did a direct upgrade
Sep 20 17:28:45 <ShiftyAxel> ya, that seems like the best way to go
Sep 20 17:29:06 <Geekpeter> works np now like, so not a problem, i can shut down without having to use device info :D
Sep 20 17:36:59 <PatrickC> hey ShiftyAxel
Sep 20 17:37:09 <ShiftyAxel> morning PatrickC
Sep 20 17:47:30 <PatrickC> hows it goin ShiftyAxel?
Sep 20 17:48:04 <ShiftyAxel> not bad, LunaCE's getting stabler and stabler
Sep 20 17:48:12 <ShiftyAxel> y'self?
Sep 20 17:48:13 <PatrickC> nice!
Sep 20 17:48:18 <PatrickC> i've been on a ship the past 5 days
Sep 20 17:48:22 <PatrickC> secluded from the world
Sep 20 17:51:43 <EricBlade> hooray, i have commits in webos now
Sep 20 17:51:58 <PatrickC> nice!
Sep 20 18:27:15 <ShiftyAxel> EricBlade: OWO?
Sep 20 18:30:59 <EricBlade> ShiftyAxel: owo!
Sep 20 18:31:14 <ShiftyAxel> nice! what did you make?
Sep 20 18:31:51 <EricBlade> got my little bug fixes in
Sep 20 18:33:16 <ShiftyAxel> nice
Sep 20 18:33:35 <ShiftyAxel> I wonder how they'll handle PRs for obvious, front-facing changes like UI
Sep 20 20:49:37 <bhuey> folks
Sep 20 20:50:23 * Geekpeter nods
Sep 20 20:52:33 <ShiftyAxel> ~morningall bhuey
Sep 20 20:52:33 * WoceBot picks up bhuey and waves them at the channel
Sep 20 23:06:49 <ShiftyAxel> PSA: LunaCE 4.9.9 is now in the LunaSysMgr-binaries repo, testing candidates are keyboard shortcuts, carrier string on the lockscreen, power button press-and-hold responsiveness and tabbed cards
Sep 20 23:07:00 <ShiftyAxel> We currently have ⅓ testers
Sep 20 23:07:53 <ShiftyAxel> fxspec06, LarrySteeze, scoutcamper^^
Sep 20 23:19:24 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel> PSA: LunaCE 4.9.9 is now in the LunaSysMgr-binaries repo, testing candidates are keyboard shortcuts, carrier string on the lockscreen, power button press-and-hold responsiveness and tabbed cards
Sep 20 23:19:27 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel> PSA: LunaCE 4.9.9 is now in the LunaSysMgr-binaries repo, testing candidates are keyboard shortcuts, carrier string on the lockscreen, power button press-and-hold responsiveness and tabbed cards
Sep 20 23:19:45 <ka6sox> grrr
Sep 20 23:25:05 <ka6sox> hiya
Sep 20 23:25:09 <ka6sox> well thats working
Sep 20 23:25:43 <ShiftyAxel> howdy
Sep 20 23:25:51 <ka6sox> any takers?
Sep 20 23:25:56 <ka6sox> for 4.9.9?
Sep 20 23:25:56 <ShiftyAxel> falchie?
Sep 20 23:27:38 <ka6sox> the 'nets are acting up...
Sep 20 23:27:52 <ka6sox> I just barfed a router....
Sep 20 23:27:58 <ka6sox> people are dying...
Sep 20 23:28:15 <ka6sox> (can't get to YouTube or Twitter!!! OMG!!!!)
Sep 20 23:29:02 <ka6sox> I guess I'm gone
Sep 20 23:39:29 * scoutcamper will test when he gets home
Sep 20 23:39:50 <scoutcamper> ~psa LunaCE 4.9.9 is now in the LunaSysMgr-binaries repo, testing candidates are keyboard shortcuts, carrier string on the lockscreen, power button press-and-hold responsiveness and tabbed cards
Sep 20 23:39:50 * WoceBot PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: LunaCE 4.9.9 is now in the LunaSysMgr-binaries repo, testing candidates are keyboard shortcuts, carrier string on the lockscreen, power button press-and-hold responsiveness and tabbed cards
Sep 20 23:44:09 <Grabber> ~botsnack
Sep 20 23:44:10 <WoceBot> :), Grabber
Sep 20 23:44:49 * Grabber reaches for his Touchpad
Sep 20 23:52:03 <ShiftyAxel> oh yeah, I forgot about the psa feature
Sep 20 23:52:39 <ShiftyAxel> scoutcamper: is there any way to hook that up so we can trigger it from outside the channel? it seems a little silly to have two near-identical messages
Sep 20 23:56:02 <ka6sox> ~psa
Sep 20 23:56:17 <ka6sox> hmmm
Sep 20 23:57:41 <ka6sox> ~kill -9
Sep 21 00:00:00 <ShiftyAxel> ~psa ka6sox
Sep 21 00:00:00 * WoceBot PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: ka6sox
Sep 21 00:01:06 <ka6sox> :P
Sep 21 00:01:45 * ka6sox hopes the blackhole feature didnt' reach out and grab grabber
Sep 21 00:36:31 <ShiftyAxel> bedtime for me, nn all!
Sep 21 00:39:44 <Grabber5_0> argh i wasn't *really* connected on wirc :mad:
Sep 21 00:40:16 <Grabber5_0> no wonder everyone was ignoring me
Sep 21 00:40:44 <Grabber5_0> unfortunately I need to step away for a few.. then I'll come back and re-report my tests (all successful so far)
Sep 21 00:42:09 <Grabber-away> hmm reading ka6sox earlier comment, I think it *did* reach out and grab Grabber
Sep 21 00:42:13 <Grabber-away> :D
Sep 21 00:42:20 <ka6sox> he he
Sep 21 00:42:29 <ka6sox> thanks
Sep 21 01:00:05 * fxspec06 testing, as ShiftyAxel goes to bed
Sep 21 01:04:28 <Grabber-away> re: Carrier string settings doesnt't apply on the lock screen. (Bug #185) ... I thought I heard before that was after a reboot..  before you get to the normal home screen
Sep 21 01:04:35 <fxspec06> here's my lock screen, i think this is right http://i.imgur.com/2kknl.png
Sep 21 01:05:45 <fxspec06> power button hold WAYYY better! TYVM.
Sep 21 01:05:59 <Grabber-away> is that after a restart or just turning the screen off/on?
Sep 21 01:06:09 <Grabber-away> yeah nice not to have to hold it for 10 seconds :D
Sep 21 01:06:18 <fxspec06> that's immediately after the install reboot, turning off then on
Sep 21 01:06:21 * Grabber-away thinks that sounded odd :D
Sep 21 01:06:37 <Grabber-away> me try again
Sep 21 01:07:24 <ka6sox> ah!
Sep 21 01:09:36 <fxspec06> ctrl + left / right arrows work. what other shortcuts do i look for
Sep 21 01:10:37 <Grabber-away> so you still saw the wrong carrier text when locking right after a reboot then
Sep 21 01:10:42 * Grabber-away tries again
Sep 21 01:11:47 <fxspec06> ah yeah, i guess the webos ports lunace should not be there
Sep 21 01:12:43 * Grabber-away loves that he can tap a tabbed card once to maximize it instead of having to tap twice
Sep 21 01:13:45 <Grabber-away> I'm not seeing that behavior
Sep 21 01:14:08 <fxspec06> how about, i uninstall, reboot, and reinstall, and reboot
Sep 21 01:14:39 <fxspec06> s/uninstall/reinstall palm default
Sep 21 01:15:23 <Grabber-away> I installed direct over 4.9.5 from preware via ubuntu shell
Sep 21 01:15:35 <Grabber-away> that is, 4.9.5 was from preware :)
Sep 21 01:15:54 <fxspec06> me too, well, i started the process, we shall see
Sep 21 01:18:31 <Grabber-away> i forgot to come back.. now I'm away again
Sep 21 01:18:47 <fxspec06> idk if it's my usb 3.0 port, but this thing installs super fast
Sep 21 01:20:35 * fxspec06 same thing
Sep 21 01:28:54 <ka6sox> well?
Sep 21 01:29:00 <ka6sox> what thing?
Sep 21 01:29:42 <fxspec06> the carrier string is the same as in the picture earlier after fresh install http://i.imgur.com/2kknl.png
Sep 21 01:30:41 <ka6sox> is that an issue?
Sep 21 01:31:22 <fxspec06> not for me, i'm not sure if Grabber-away thought it was. he says he's not seeing the same thing
Sep 21 01:33:23 <ka6sox> okay
Sep 21 01:34:04 <ka6sox> we need to test the kybd...I hope that someone with a BT Kybd can verify too.
Sep 21 01:34:40 <fxspec06> i have one, what should i be testing? the ctrl + left/right arrows work flawlessly between cards
Sep 21 01:35:17 <fxspec06> tabs, too
Sep 21 01:35:28 <ka6sox> how about stacks?
Sep 21 01:35:39 <fxspec06> stacks, yes. it works between stacks
Sep 21 01:36:43 <ka6sox> lagoldste, can you verify?
Sep 21 01:37:27 <ka6sox> (that would be 3/3 :D
Sep 21 01:38:45 <ka6sox> (and close the circle on the regression)
Sep 21 01:39:01 * Grabber-away 's battery is critically low
Sep 21 01:39:09 <ka6sox> oh no'es
Sep 21 01:39:51 * Grabber-away grabbed his power supply from his backpack in the nick of time
Sep 21 01:40:01 <ka6sox> good save
Sep 21 01:40:04 <lagoldste> ok. gimme a few
Sep 21 01:40:08 <ka6sox> tyvm
Sep 21 01:40:27 <Grabber-here> need to make sure I am not missing something..
Sep 21 01:41:25 <Grabber-here> ctrl+tab cycles tabbed cards.. to get to the next stack do you have hit the card key to get into stacked mode first? I can't figure out any other way
Sep 21 01:41:35 <lagoldste> . o O {...of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most...}
Sep 21 01:41:52 * ka6sox resembles that remark.
Sep 21 01:42:02 <Grabber-here> lol
Sep 21 01:42:12 <lagoldste> Grabber-away: ctrl + arrow should move to the next stack / card
Sep 21 01:42:27 <fxspec06> lol.. --> yeah ctrl arrow works next stack here
Sep 21 01:42:44 <Grabber-here> It does in stacked mode, but doesn't seem to switch if your cards are tabbed not stacked
Sep 21 01:43:26 <Grabber-here> if I hit ctrl+up it will switch from tabbed to stacked then I can switch stackes
Sep 21 01:43:37 * Grabber-here curses at fingers
Sep 21 01:43:43 <lagoldste> oo. it should switch like a finger swipe will switch. i forgot/neglected to write that down
Sep 21 01:43:53 <lagoldste> oo. good to know
Sep 21 01:44:06 <Grabber-here> I've not seen any issues with carrier string on restart
Sep 21 01:44:57 <fxspec06> oh you mean, to the top of the stack? not following trian of thought
Sep 21 01:45:00 <Grabber-here> since my finger is already on the ctrl key cycling cards, hitting the up arrow is fast at that point
Sep 21 01:45:07 <Grabber-here> let me start at the top
Sep 21 01:45:47 <fxspec06> i can ctrl + left/right in card view to move between stacks
Sep 21 01:45:59 <Grabber-here> I have a stack with a bunch of cards, another single card, and a third stack of about 3 cards
Sep 21 01:46:06 <ka6sox> we need to find someone with nice hands...
Sep 21 01:46:21 <Grabber-here> I activate one of the cards in the first stack of many cards
Sep 21 01:46:31 <Grabber-here> I hit ctrl+tab and go to tabbed card mode
Sep 21 01:46:45 <Grabber-here> I have fun cycling cards with ctrl+tab
Sep 21 01:46:56 <fxspec06> woah!!
Sep 21 01:47:10 <fxspec06> that's different from ctrl + left/right
Sep 21 01:47:12 <Grabber-here> ctrl+left right does not take me from the tabbed card group to anywhere
Sep 21 01:47:26 <fxspec06> i see, yes, i see that behavire
Sep 21 01:47:35 <Grabber-here> if I hit ctrl+up it changes from tabbed mode to stacked mode
Sep 21 01:47:42 <Grabber-here> at that point I can change stacks with ctrl+left/right
Sep 21 01:48:00 <Grabber-here> not saying it is a bug, just trying to confirm if it is expected or not
Sep 21 01:48:14 <Grabber-here> ctrl+up was not very obvious, just happened upon it
Sep 21 01:48:30 <Grabber-here> tab key seems more obvious, and it does work to switch from tabbed to stacked mode
Sep 21 01:48:46 <lagoldste> back shortly
Sep 21 01:48:52 <ka6sox> ctrl+tab probably deconflicts stuff.
Sep 21 01:49:15 * Grabber-here goes back to holding ctrl+tab down and watching his tabbed cards cycle like mad, wondering how long he can hold them down before Luna crashes and burns
Sep 21 01:49:47 <ka6sox> maybe as far as Endeavour has flown? (thats 123 million miles)
Sep 21 01:50:11 <fxspec06> lulz
Sep 21 01:50:44 <Grabber-here> in a stack of 9 cards, holding down ctrl+tab looks really funky
Sep 21 01:51:02 <Grabber-here> normal behavior looks normal
Sep 21 01:51:04 <Grabber-here> imagine that
Sep 21 01:51:05 <Grabber-here> :D
Sep 21 01:51:20 <fxspec06> you can actually see the touchpad thinking as the gfx hiccup through the cards.. it's subtle but amusing
Sep 21 01:51:54 <ka6sox> but not annoying right?
Sep 21 01:52:33 <Grabber-here> should there be a short delay there when you hold the keys so people don't just amuse themselves by holding it down?
Sep 21 01:52:40 * Grabber-here looks away
Sep 21 01:52:40 <fxspec06> nahh, not at all. holding them down, is what i meant.. i'm kinda surprised it ran that smoothly
Sep 21 01:52:53 <Grabber-here> i mean very short.. like less than 200ms
Sep 21 01:53:03 <Grabber-here> just enough to let the poor gpu catch its breath
Sep 21 01:53:07 <ka6sox> so add a small delay?
Sep 21 01:53:09 <fxspec06> if you put a delay in, it'd probably look better, and prevent overkill
Sep 21 01:53:23 <ka6sox> I can't call that a bug...
Sep 21 01:53:29 <Grabber-here> I'm just thinking Luna is bound to crash as the result of someone doing that
Sep 21 01:53:32 <Grabber-here> totally agree
Sep 21 01:53:40 <Grabber-here> enhancement
Sep 21 01:53:51 <Grabber-here> I'm willing to be the first :P
Sep 21 01:53:54 <ka6sox> if they crash it by abusing it..."NOT A BUG"
Sep 21 01:54:00 <ka6sox> hiya lagoldste
Sep 21 01:54:01 <ka6sox> wb
Sep 21 01:54:17 <Grabber-here> you can actually see the backlight flicker slightly doing that with a 9 card stack
Sep 21 01:54:27 <Grabber-here> if you look at the screen at an angle that is
Sep 21 01:54:30 <fxspec06> is holding ctrl + tab really abuse, though
Sep 21 01:54:41 <Grabber-here> lol
Sep 21 01:54:46 <ka6sox> fxspec06, for how many hours?
Sep 21 01:55:25 <Grabber-here> actually that is the card animating flickering not the backlight
Sep 21 01:55:40 <lagoldste> hiya. interesting oddness with wirc that i noticed in 4.9.8 too. i have wirc open 5 channels on two different irc server nets. they used to open all in one stack. now i have 3 stacks
Sep 21 01:55:44 <Grabber-here> it goes to huge mode for a nanosecond then starts circling again
Sep 21 01:56:08 <Grabber-here> ok let me make sure I tested all of the fix candidaets
Sep 21 01:56:11 <Grabber-here> grr
Sep 21 01:56:37 <fxspec06> ctrl + right arrow holding produces a somewhat more amusing effect
Sep 21 01:56:53 <fxspec06> not for the narcoleptic
Sep 21 01:56:57 <ka6sox> anything broken?
Sep 21 01:57:11 <lagoldste> fxspec06: that is a cute effect
Sep 21 01:57:34 <Grabber-here> oh i see ctrl up/down kind of act like the card key and enter
Sep 21 01:57:38 <lagoldste> broken, no. the things i mentioned in my last two bug reports seem to be fixed
Sep 21 01:57:45 <Grabber-here> ctrl+up = card key
Sep 21 01:57:47 <fxspec06> well, it hasn't caused a crash, but my screen is now actually frozen
Sep 21 01:57:51 <Grabber-here> ctrl+down=activate card
Sep 21 01:57:57 <Grabber-here> that even makes logical sense
Sep 21 01:58:07 <fxspec06> and now we're back
Sep 21 01:58:10 <lagoldste> i like the ctrl+up and ctrl+down functions
Sep 21 01:58:30 <ka6sox> okay so with things getting more complicated...we need to have a good video 'splaining things...
Sep 21 01:58:36 <Grabber-here> they make sense now that I understand them
Sep 21 01:58:47 <lagoldste> ka6sox: yes
Sep 21 01:59:17 <ka6sox> nobody wants to see my old wrinkled hands and high squeeky voice...
Sep 21 02:00:01 <lagoldste> *snerk*
Sep 21 02:00:25 <ka6sox> I am not pointing at *anyone*
Sep 21 02:00:44 <ka6sox> there are 53 people in this channel
Sep 21 02:00:44 * lagoldste snerks some more
Sep 21 02:00:47 <Grabber-here> what was that gas mythbusters used to make their voices really low?  sodium tetra-chloride comes to mind..
Sep 21 02:01:02 <Grabber-here> nevermind that it is poisonous
Sep 21 02:01:14 <Grabber-here> probably wrong gas
Sep 21 02:01:16 * ka6sox stops his order...
Sep 21 02:01:27 <Grabber-here> good call
Sep 21 02:01:28 <fxspec06> i'm in a sleepy house, sleepy people won't appreciate my talking mildly loud
Sep 21 02:03:01 <ka6sox> can I get a Thumbs UP or Down on 4.9.9 please?
Sep 21 02:03:19 <Grabber-here> my thumbs are up (except to hit the space bar)
Sep 21 02:03:24 * fxspec06 big TUP
Sep 21 02:03:32 * halfhalo has sideways thumbs
Sep 21 02:03:57 <ka6sox> halfhalo's thumbs are not opposing
Sep 21 02:04:07 <Grabber-here> hmmm...
Sep 21 02:04:56 <Grabber-here> Sulfur Hexafluoride
Sep 21 02:05:03 <Grabber-here> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UAEQfMTtU
Sep 21 02:05:33 <Grabber-here> dare you to watch that without busting out laughing at the sulfur hexaflouride
Sep 21 02:05:47 <lagoldste> does anyone have any apps besides wirc that will start multiple cards at once?
Sep 21 02:06:00 <Grabber-here> at once?
Sep 21 02:06:05 <lagoldste> i want to know if that happens with apps besides wirc
Sep 21 02:06:06 <lagoldste> yes
Sep 21 02:06:09 <Grabber-here> I hear 'starter' can do that
Sep 21 02:06:25 <ka6sox> I know you can make stacks of web browsers too.
Sep 21 02:06:26 <fxspec06> i have a LOT of apps... i don't know which ones do that, though
Sep 21 02:06:38 <Grabber-here> I opened a bunch of new email cards and browser cards
Sep 21 02:06:46 <lagoldste> it was opening all its cards into one stack, now it'll open into two or three
Sep 21 02:06:56 <ka6sox> anyone seeing TMC?
Sep 21 02:07:00 <lagoldste> there may not be any other apps that do that right now
Sep 21 02:07:00 <Grabber-here> not a one
Sep 21 02:07:07 <fxspec06> nope
Sep 21 02:07:33 <lagoldste> i will check to see if i have problems with > 5 cards in a stack
Sep 21 02:08:11 <Grabber-here> I did not try activating cards in big stacks other than in tab mode.. will check again
Sep 21 02:08:41 <fxspec06> i'm gonna open all the apps that i have in the catalog into one stack, and watch them fly
Sep 21 02:09:27 <Grabber-here> still cannot swipe a stack of 8 cards to get to the next stack
Sep 21 02:09:33 <lagoldste> oh yeah, the stack freezes in card mode if > 5 cards is still there
Sep 21 02:09:36 <Grabber-here> have to do a side gesture still
Sep 21 02:10:01 <fxspec06> oh snap, yep i see that
Sep 21 02:10:20 <ka6sox> okay its an alpha....lets bug that one and see if we can just make it so we don't allow stacks of more than 5...
Sep 21 02:10:26 <lagoldste> Grabber-here: can you move the whole stack with ctrl+arrow?
Sep 21 02:10:49 <Grabber-here> I must be able to, as I didn't notice it on the BT kb
Sep 21 02:11:08 <lagoldste> confirm that
Sep 21 02:11:10 <Grabber-here> yes, ctrl+arrow switches super-stacks just fine
Sep 21 02:11:30 <Grabber-here> whoops
Sep 21 02:11:37 * Grabber-here coins new term: super-stack
Sep 21 02:12:39 * lagoldste thinks all stacks are super
Sep 21 02:12:44 <lagoldste> *blink*
Sep 21 02:13:10 <Grabber-here> don't allow stacks of > 5?  but.. but.. it's so much fun :D
Sep 21 02:13:41 <lagoldste> heh.
Sep 21 02:13:45 * Grabber-here wonders if there is a keyboard shortcut to discard a draft email
Sep 21 02:14:03 <lagoldste> discard or just throw away the card?
Sep 21 02:14:12 <Grabber-here> if i toss it away it becomes a draft
Sep 21 02:14:13 <fxspec06> it's juggling my apps nicely
Sep 21 02:14:23 <Grabber-here> i don't have the no-draft saving after card-tossing
Sep 21 02:14:27 <Grabber-here> patch installed
Sep 21 02:14:47 <lagoldste> ah
Sep 21 02:15:02 <lagoldste> what else are we testing besides the bugs i filed last night?
Sep 21 02:15:11 <Grabber-here> well, his Pre always did that... let's see if I have a bunch of blank draft emails
Sep 21 02:15:19 <Grabber-here> s/his/my/
Sep 21 02:15:19 <WoceBot> Grabber-here meant: well, my Pre always did that... let's see if I have a bunch of blank draft emails
Sep 21 02:15:40 <Grabber-here> all clear.. I don't have 20 blank draft emails in my Google account :d
Sep 21 02:16:03 <Grabber-here> maybe that only happens if you accidentally hit reply and toss away the card
Sep 21 02:16:23 <fxspec06> i've killed 49% of my battery since i started testing. although i have like 20 apps open and they're all doing stuff... plus the ctrl + tab holding.......
Sep 21 02:16:57 <ka6sox> DO THAT iPAD :P
Sep 21 02:18:03 <Grabber-here> heh
Sep 21 02:18:15 <Grabber-here> i've only used 6% battery
Sep 21 02:18:42 <Grabber-here> must not have held ctrl+tab long enough
Sep 21 02:19:28 <Grabber-here> going to listen to that Mythbusters video one more time then go pay attention the wife
Sep 21 02:19:43 <fxspec06> might have to do w/ full brightness, also =P i'm done testing, you guys gonna try another version later right?
Sep 21 02:19:45 <ka6sox> let me look @ the commit log
Sep 21 02:19:57 <ka6sox> fxspec06, I'm gonna ship this
Sep 21 02:20:05 <fxspec06> k, cool. works for me
Sep 21 02:21:28 <ka6sox> lagoldste, #185,187,189 are what are addressed in 4.9.9
Sep 21 02:21:53 <ka6sox> from the commit logs
Sep 21 02:22:09 <ka6sox> https://github.com/organizations/woce
Sep 21 02:22:11 <lagoldste> ok
Sep 21 02:24:57 <ka6sox> lagoldste, ship it?
Sep 21 02:25:37 <lagoldste> i'd say yes - just need to test the carrier string thing. hang on
Sep 21 02:25:44 <ka6sox> kk
Sep 21 02:27:55 <lagoldste> still got the carrier string problem. i turned off "show device name" and turned on "custom string". lock screen still shows my device name
Sep 21 02:28:16 <lagoldste> don't really see that one as a show stopper. just an annoyance
Sep 21 02:28:38 <ka6sox> okay then I think we need to comment on that and mark it low?
Sep 21 02:28:58 <lagoldste> yah, think so
Sep 21 02:29:12 <ka6sox> can you handle while I push this out?
Sep 21 02:29:48 <lagoldste> yeah. so i'm writing up one new low priority and commenting on an existing one, yes?
Sep 21 02:29:59 <ka6sox> yes please
Sep 21 02:42:54 <ka6sox> lagoldste, I just added 4.9.9 to the issues.webos-ports.org to put those "issues" against.
Sep 21 02:43:31 <lagoldste> ty
Sep 21 02:48:50 <ka6sox> https://twitter.com/webosports/status/248976958170492931
Sep 21 02:51:49 <lagoldste> i can't change the target version in a bug i've created
Sep 21 02:52:44 <lagoldste> someone who can needs to change that in bug 195, please
Sep 21 02:52:45 <ka6sox> I'll try...
Sep 21 02:53:15 <ka6sox> it says 4.9.9
Sep 21 02:53:29 <lagoldste> oo. sorry. 194
Sep 21 02:53:31 <lagoldste> ew
Sep 21 02:53:33 <lagoldste> 193
Sep 21 02:53:35 <lagoldste> :P
Sep 21 02:54:05 <ka6sox> fixed
Sep 21 02:54:15 <lagoldste> ty
Sep 21 02:54:18 <ka6sox> yw
Sep 21 02:54:41 <lagoldste> btw- the banner icon corruption is something that's been there since the first release of webos 3
Sep 21 02:55:07 <ka6sox> I am going to mark that one LOW too and not let it hold up stable
Sep 21 02:55:18 <lagoldste> sounds reasonable
Sep 21 02:55:57 <lagoldste> it's an annoyance, though one that amuses me. especially when it displays the FB icon upside down and rust colored
Sep 21 02:56:03 <ka6sox> http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/111
Sep 21 02:56:10 <ka6sox> we have more insight into it
Sep 21 02:56:21 <ka6sox> can anyone replicate this bug?
Sep 21 02:57:32 <lagoldste> i need to go back to work stuff
Sep 21 02:57:52 <ka6sox> Good Plan(tm)
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