**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 21 02:59:58 2012
Sep 21 03:05:36 <EricBlade> "DEFINES+=WTF_USE_ZLIB"  ... yeah, wtf. use zlib.
Sep 21 03:07:08 <ka6sox> he he
Sep 21 03:13:22 <ka6sox> seen that
Sep 21 04:51:20 <EricBlade-TP> hey
Sep 21 04:53:46 <ka6sox> heyo!
Sep 21 04:53:54 <EricBlade-TP> unreservedly oh.
Sep 21 04:53:57 <EricBlade-TP> oops
Sep 21 04:54:00 <EricBlade-TP> damn you auto correct
Sep 21 04:54:13 <EricBlade-TP> heeeeeeeeey* becomes unreservedly
Sep 21 05:05:36 <ka6sox> AutoCorrect FALE
Sep 21 05:42:15 <EricBlade-TP> I haven't been on the Twitter in like a week now.  scary.
Sep 21 05:47:36 <ka6sox> SSDD
Sep 21 05:54:01 <EricBlade-TP> hmmm. someone on the webosnation article thread for the Raspberry Pi suggested webOS + Kinect.
Sep 21 05:54:19 <EricBlade-TP> who wants to finance a Kinect setup for me?
Sep 21 05:56:16 <EricBlade-TP> Wave your hands in the air, like ya just don't care
Sep 21 05:57:52 <ka6sox> hmmm....
Sep 21 05:58:01 <ka6sox> very iiiiinteresting
Sep 21 05:58:11 <EricBlade-TP> hell there's a JavaScript library for talking to the kinect drivers
Sep 21 06:00:41 <wrea> Nice
Sep 21 06:01:48 <EricBlade-TP> Does Raspberry offer any kind of output options that would connect it to my TV I wonder?
Sep 21 06:02:40 <wrea> HDMI
Sep 21 06:02:43 <ka6sox> assuming your TV takes NTSC or HDMI
Sep 21 06:02:49 <EricBlade-TP> my tv's not that awesome to have hdmi
Sep 21 06:03:04 <EricBlade-TP> NTSC? standard a/v ? yuuuuck
Sep 21 06:03:37 <EricBlade-TP> need to upgrade that to a component video signal
Sep 21 06:04:26 <ka6sox> you need something else too....
Sep 21 06:04:44 <ka6sox> Video Drivers that aren't chimped down so hard you wont' get things to work right.
Sep 21 06:05:25 <EricBlade-TP> just wave your hands up down left right
Sep 21 06:05:41 <EricBlade-TP> Bluetooth keyboard it
Sep 21 06:06:26 <EricBlade-TP> if all your apps handle "tab" properly it could be done. not too many webOS apps that handle tab properly outside of input boxes though
Sep 21 06:10:25 <EricBlade-TP> ok, guys, should I get to sleep early, or go have a beer
Sep 21 06:10:40 <ka6sox> either one sounds good!
Sep 21 06:11:12 <EricBlade-TP> I was going to meet up with a former coworker, but he seems to have gone off grid
Sep 21 06:14:56 <EricBlade-TP> hmm. no one to vote one way or the other. I guess that means I'll have to lean towards beer.
Sep 21 06:15:12 <EricBlade-TP> when in doubt, drink beer
Sep 21 06:16:07 <ka6sox> Par-Tay
Sep 21 06:17:06 <EricBlade-TP> of course the bar here has been completely barren of people the last few nights, so I'll bring my touchpad along with me.  where hopefully the one guy that does come in doesn't show up and say "WOW IS THAT THE IPAD 5?!"
Sep 21 06:17:41 <EricBlade-TP> he thought my touchpad was way cooler than the iPad 1 he supposedly owns, though.  <3 LunaCE
Sep 21 06:34:28 <bhuey> hey ka6sox
Sep 21 06:34:38 <ka6sox> hey bhuey
Sep 21 06:43:30 <EricBlade-TP> one would think the bars around a heavily tech city like this would be packed.
Sep 21 06:49:29 <ka6sox> downtown
Sep 21 06:59:16 <EricBlade-TP> I don't know where downtown is hah
Sep 21 06:59:40 <EricBlade-TP> there are 4 packed full hotels in spitting distance, and three people in the bar. counting the owner and the waitress. lol
Sep 21 12:29:36 <ShiftyAxel> morning all
Sep 21 14:57:13 * aaa801 waits for a gui on arm
Sep 21 15:00:02 <ShiftyAxel> I see you got some bloggery action today aaa801
Sep 21 15:00:07 <ShiftyAxel> woo, publicity :D
Sep 21 15:00:13 <aaa801> :3
Sep 21 15:00:23 <ShiftyAxel> though the use of the term 'ROM' in relation to webOS makes me want to kill things :p
Sep 21 15:00:32 <aaa801> ha
Sep 21 15:00:41 <aaa801> did i realy put rom O_O, i ment image
Sep 21 15:01:24 <ShiftyAxel> dunno, the rpi blog might have misquoted you
Sep 21 15:01:29 <ShiftyAxel> says ROM on there though
Sep 21 15:01:33 <ka6sox-away> aaa801, url?
Sep 21 15:01:43 <aaa801> ka6sox-away: url for ?
Sep 21 15:01:49 <ka6sox-away> bloggery
Sep 21 15:01:53 <aaa801> raspberrypi.org
Sep 21 15:02:02 <ka6sox-away> oh
Sep 21 15:02:08 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: http://www.raspberrypi.org , http://www.webosnation.com/open-webos-ported-raspberry-pi-single-board-computer-still-needs-ui
Sep 21 15:02:18 <ka6sox-away> ok
Sep 21 15:02:19 <aaa801> Would of been better if the gui was all workings =/
Sep 21 15:02:41 <aaa801> O_o didnt know i was on that blog too
Sep 21 15:02:54 <LunohoD> what's the purpose of the webos on the raspberry pi without touchscreen?
Sep 21 15:03:06 <ShiftyAxel> good question
Sep 21 15:03:17 <aaa801> it supports mouse right?
Sep 21 15:03:21 <ShiftyAxel> I've heard people speculating about how awesome it would be as a media streamer with kinect controls
Sep 21 15:03:33 <ShiftyAxel> ya, it does, if you're running it in an X server
Sep 21 15:03:54 <ShiftyAxel> not sure about the OE build though
Sep 21 15:03:58 <aaa801> O god.
Sep 21 15:04:10 <Caleb> hmm
Sep 21 15:04:17 <aaa801> doesnt a touchscreen just register as a mouse anyway?
Sep 21 15:04:22 <ShiftyAxel> nope
Sep 21 15:04:28 <aaa801> mhm
Sep 21 15:04:29 <ShiftyAxel> at least, not always
Sep 21 15:05:11 <ShiftyAxel> Qt synthesises mouse events from unhandled touch events, and I think X has to turn them into mouse events unless you're using a certain option/modification/etc
Sep 21 15:05:40 <aaa801> mhm
Sep 21 15:06:04 <aaa801> Android works fine with a mouse
Sep 21 15:06:20 <ShiftyAxel> ya, 'cause it has mouse support coded into it
Sep 21 15:06:21 <ka6sox-away> Android !webOS
Sep 21 15:06:28 <ShiftyAxel> LSM would need to have it added
Sep 21 15:06:39 <aaa801> LSM ?
Sep 21 15:06:43 <ShiftyAxel> LunaSysMgr
Sep 21 15:07:10 <aaa801> Il wait til the gui comes up with the arm builds
Sep 21 15:07:27 <aaa801> heck the build system still cant make armv6 builds :P
Sep 21 15:07:53 <ShiftyAxel> I get the feeling that a fair bit more work will be required to get the gui properly up and running on an rpi, drivers, nyx modules and the like
Sep 21 15:08:30 <ka6sox-away> aaa801, you realize that 1.0 is not meant to run on any ARM device except for qemuARM "Targets"
Sep 21 15:08:34 <aaa801> we have staticaly linked video core libraries
Sep 21 15:09:06 <aaa801> not sure how the system would act if i loaded a staticaly linked glibc+videocore egl lib
Sep 21 15:09:13 <aaa801> Prob explode or something knowing my luck
Sep 21 15:09:15 <ka6sox-away> aaa801, I suspect that the closed source non-well documented video APIs are going to be a probelme.
Sep 21 15:09:57 <aaa801> ka6sox-away: Broadcom may be helpfull there, there already working on the android binarys for it
Sep 21 15:10:15 <ka6sox-away> Broadcom has NEVER been helpful
Sep 21 15:10:34 <aaa801> mhmm
Sep 21 15:11:35 <ka6sox-away> I don't know why this is such "big news"...the rootfs is unremarkable....the "Big Deal" is the UI....
Sep 21 15:12:29 <ka6sox-away> Getting that to work with Broadcom's closed source video drivers...that will be the "Magic Sauce"
Sep 21 15:12:57 <Stskeeps> should be plausible, there's some nice extensions allowing to share buffers between processes in those
Sep 21 15:13:46 <aaa801> android ran okish with its default egl driver
Sep 21 15:13:47 <ka6sox-away> true, but it will require more than just simply recompiling to this target.
Sep 21 15:14:18 <aaa801> from what i hear from the broadcom guy that got in touch with me there official build uses a whole new gpu initalizer
Sep 21 15:14:41 <aaa801> =/
Sep 21 18:22:06 <aaa801> 1.0 seems to build for armv6-vfp now
Sep 21 18:23:24 <ShiftyAxel> 1.0?
Sep 21 18:24:05 <aaa801> open webos
Sep 21 18:39:01 <aaa801> Why does it take soo long to write the kernel ipk =/
Sep 21 18:39:35 <ShiftyAxel> I don't believe what we have now is 1.0, that'll come with the stable release/LSM on OE
Sep 21 18:39:53 <ShiftyAxel> you've compiled kernels before, right? :D
Sep 21 18:39:56 <aaa801> Mhm well there calling it 1.0, even though it may be incomplete
Sep 21 18:40:03 <aaa801> ye this rig can pump out a kernel in about 10 mins
Sep 21 18:42:36 <aaa801> ShiftyAxel:http://screensnapr.com/v/d9eq4p.jpg
Sep 21 18:43:11 <ShiftyAxel> jeeeesus, that's some rig
Sep 21 18:43:29 * ShiftyAxel wishes he had 8 cores
Sep 21 18:43:37 <aaa801> :P
Sep 21 18:44:10 <aaa801> mhm
Sep 21 18:44:18 <aaa801> seems to be the perl compile thats taking its time
Sep 21 18:44:30 <aaa801> its just knocked the kernel ipk generation to the bottem of the que :<
Sep 21 18:47:01 <ShiftyAxel> just looking through the latest LSM commits… looks like they added a 'showNotificationsAtTop' setting
Sep 21 18:47:26 <ShiftyAxel> but 2.x-style notifications are STILL not compatible with the VKB
Sep 21 18:50:56 <ShiftyAxel> and it looks like the virtual gesture area is only available on desktop builds at the moment too. hrm.
Sep 21 19:13:33 <destinal> besides raspberry pi is way underpowered for webos at this point, it's lower spec than pixi, isn't it?
Sep 21 19:14:18 <ka6sox> 700mhz, 256MB
Sep 21 19:14:44 <aaa801> wait what?
Sep 21 19:14:50 <aaa801> Specs of pixi?
Sep 21 19:15:46 <aaa801> pi should be able to run it no problems
Sep 21 19:16:04 <aaa801> Remember it has the videocore for graphics
Sep 21 19:16:15 <aaa801> if it ever gets open sourced drivers
Sep 21 19:16:42 <destinal> aaa801: pixi doesn't run webos 2.x "no problems".  RAM is a serious issue at 256 (which it also has)
Sep 21 19:17:01 <aaa801> Swap file?
Sep 21 19:17:21 <ShiftyAxel> swap file didn't really help 2.x on pixi
Sep 21 19:17:29 <aaa801> Also im guessing that the 256mb is including the operating system?
Sep 21 19:17:33 <ShiftyAxel> it still ended up imploding after a day or so
Sep 21 19:17:35 <ShiftyAxel> ya
Sep 21 19:17:42 <destinal> aaa801: suffice it to say that Palm decided it wasn't powerful enough to officially support
Sep 21 19:17:50 <destinal> and dropping a platform is hard to do
Sep 21 19:17:57 <Geekpeter> isnt it a bit weird having no touchscreen on it tho
Sep 21 19:17:57 <aaa801> So how much actual ram would you say is needed
Sep 21 19:18:06 <aaa801> Touchscreens are avilable for the pi
Sep 21 19:18:11 <Geekpeter> lol
Sep 21 19:18:16 <aaa801> not from the foundation at this point tho
Sep 21 19:18:39 <ShiftyAxel> I'd say 512mb ram minimum
Sep 21 19:18:41 <destinal> aaa801: well the other thing is that now that we have source code we could potentially do some optimizations that palm didn't have the motivation to do
Sep 21 19:18:50 <aaa801> Indeed
Sep 21 19:18:51 <destinal> but yeah as-is, 512MB
Sep 21 19:18:52 <Geekpeter> or time
Sep 21 19:18:55 <aaa801> build just finished, 31817.27user 6926.10system 2:10:02elapsed 496%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 11374592maxresident)k
Sep 21 19:18:59 <ShiftyAxel> it'd be nice to get it running lighter though
Sep 21 19:19:24 <Geekpeter> wtb: webos of any kind without a ton of logs left all over the device (unless your a dev and want them)
Sep 21 19:19:47 <ka6sox> aaa801, running webOS on a 256MB device was always problematic
Sep 21 19:19:59 <aaa801> How much space did the os take up
Sep 21 19:20:00 <destinal> Geekpeter: yeah I mainly mean that palm had limited resources and to them, getting webos tight and fast was less important than functional and useful on fast hardware
Sep 21 19:20:17 <ka6sox> there are techniques to help but we saw a lot of TMC errors.
Sep 21 19:20:21 <Geekpeter> v true
Sep 21 19:21:32 <ShiftyAxel> isn't Qt pretty memory heavy as standard?
Sep 21 19:21:39 <ka6sox> yes
Sep 21 19:22:29 <ka6sox> the prettier the textures the heavier the memory
Sep 21 19:23:16 * ka6sox heads to f00d
Sep 21 19:26:05 <aaa801> dcfldd if=./webos-image-qemuarm.ext3 of=/dev/sdb2
Sep 21 19:26:09 <aaa801> opps -.-'
Sep 21 19:27:23 <ShiftyAxel> writing webOS to alocal drive
Sep 21 19:27:24 <ShiftyAxel> ?
Sep 21 19:29:22 <Grabber5_0> someone complained about tapping a tabbed card activating it.  That is heresy I say!
Sep 21 19:29:58 <Grabber5_0> he can submit a pull request to make that a tweaks preference :p
Sep 21 19:30:20 <ShiftyAxel> people don't like change :P
Sep 21 19:30:41 <Grabber5_0> and I like that opening a new card opens it as a tabbed card.. the feedback on that one will be interesting to see
Sep 21 19:30:45 <Grabber5_0> yes, change=bad
Sep 21 19:30:45 <ShiftyAxel> but hey, if he wants to revert to 4.9.5 and have stacks appear behind his tabs then he's totally welcome to
Sep 21 19:30:55 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, that wasn't actually intentional
Sep 21 19:31:00 <Grabber5_0> s/change/bad/
Sep 21 19:31:00 <WoceBot> Grabber5_0 meant: yes, bad=bad
Sep 21 19:31:10 <Grabber5_0> :D
Sep 21 19:31:35 <Grabber5_0> I should say, I kind of like it. I cold go either way. I thought it was cool was my first reaction
Sep 21 19:32:02 <ShiftyAxel> I rewrote tabbed cards to use the existing card layout code, which just happened to add in support for launching new cards in tabs
Sep 21 19:32:10 <ShiftyAxel> ya, same, shocked, but 'hey, neat'
Sep 21 19:32:27 <ShiftyAxel> though I don't think they auto-maximize atm, which probably needs tweaking
Sep 21 19:43:21 <aaa801> ShiftyAxel: its my sd card for the pi
Sep 21 19:43:40 <Caleb> aaa801: liking the pi?
Sep 21 19:43:50 <aaa801> Caleb: why is your name so familar O_O
Sep 21 19:44:02 <Caleb> who knows
Sep 21 19:44:20 <aaa801> Ye the pi is ok ;)
Sep 21 19:44:51 <Caleb> yeah i like it
Sep 21 19:44:59 <Caleb> just having problems with raspbmc atm
Sep 21 19:45:05 <aaa801> Mhms?
Sep 21 19:45:08 <aaa801> What kinda problems
Sep 21 19:45:12 <Caleb> doesnt wanna output 1080p
Sep 21 19:45:16 <Caleb> tv is 1080
Sep 21 19:45:23 <aaa801> is the pi in 1080 output?
Sep 21 19:45:35 <Caleb> i never took it out
Sep 21 19:45:45 <aaa801> ?
Sep 21 19:45:49 <Caleb> unless the new version of raspbmc changed its settings
Sep 21 19:46:00 <aaa801> What memory split are you using?
Sep 21 19:46:04 <Caleb> i never changed the settings for the resolution
Sep 21 19:46:15 <aaa801> if your using the 32m one videocore wont be able to decode 1080
Sep 21 19:47:00 <Caleb> 192/64 i think
Sep 21 19:47:26 <aaa801> should be fine =/
Sep 21 19:47:41 <Caleb> it plays the videos fine
Sep 21 19:47:53 <Caleb> the resolution isnt 1080p
Sep 21 19:47:56 <aaa801> Force it?
Sep 21 19:48:05 <Caleb> i guess ill have to
Sep 21 19:48:11 <Caleb> ill check with the dev
Sep 21 21:44:02 <ka6sox> b00m
Sep 21 22:04:19 <ShiftyAxel> ~psa LunaCE 4.9.10 is now in the alpha branch of LunaSysMgr-binaries, testing candidates are bluetooth keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl is now Meta (Win/Cmd/Card), Meta + 1-6 for wavelauncher), we currently have ⅓ successes
Sep 21 22:04:19 * WoceBot PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: LunaCE 4.9.10 is now in the alpha branch of LunaSysMgr-binaries, testing candidates are bluetooth keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl is now Meta (Win/Cmd/Card), Meta + 1-6 for wavelauncher), we currently have ⅓ successes
Sep 21 22:34:28 <ka6sox> anyone anyone?
Sep 21 22:40:00 <ShiftyAxel> going once...
Sep 21 22:45:04 <bhuey> hey ka6sox
Sep 21 22:45:20 * bhuey is cleaning around the house
Sep 21 22:48:53 * LarrySteeze is making the wife chicken pot pie...then helping her make cider.
Sep 21 22:52:54 <ShiftyAxel> homebrew eh LarrySteeze?
Sep 21 22:53:05 <ShiftyAxel> I hope it's open-souce cider!
Sep 21 22:54:43 <LarrySteeze> heh. ShiftyAxel: I am homebrew. You name the type, and I do it.
Sep 21 22:55:21 <LarrySteeze> for her birthday, I took her to the apple orchard today to get apples for apple cider. then i took her to get the yeast for it too.
Sep 21 22:58:41 <lagoldste> i suppose i'd better do a bit of testing
Sep 21 22:58:50 <ShiftyAxel> how long does it take to brew?
Sep 21 22:58:57 <ShiftyAxel> yay, ty lagoldste
Sep 21 22:59:19 <lagoldste> just give me a little bit- i'm in the middle of my workday here
Sep 21 22:59:42 <ShiftyAxel> sure, no rush :)
Sep 21 23:00:31 <lagoldste> just to confirm what i'm reading here, everything that was ctrl before is now meta, and meta is cards/wos key?
Sep 21 23:00:47 <lagoldste> . o O {...all we need now is an "any" key...}
Sep 21 23:01:27 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, that'd be correct
Sep 21 23:01:48 <lagoldste> cool
Sep 21 23:02:36 <lagoldste> what are each of meta 1-6 supposed to do?
Sep 21 23:04:11 <LarrySteeze> ShiftyAxel: to do the actual steps for it today, it'll probably take about 30 minutes
Sep 21 23:04:19 <LarrySteeze> then it will take a month or two to ferment
Sep 21 23:06:27 <lagoldste> ok. back soon
Sep 21 23:17:19 <ka6sox> boing boing
Sep 21 23:23:11 <ka6sox> hiya falchie wanna test?
Sep 21 23:26:03 <lagoldste> so far, so good
Sep 21 23:26:45 <lagoldste> meta 1-8 work if you've got the patch that gives you 8 icons in the quick launch bar
Sep 21 23:27:24 <lagoldste> chooses icons 1-8
Sep 21 23:28:11 <lagoldste> meta arrows still goes through every card in a stack
Sep 21 23:28:39 <lagoldste> in full screen mode
Sep 21 23:29:05 <lagoldste> moves the stack as a whole in card mode. good, good
Sep 21 23:29:12 <lagoldste> close that one :)
Sep 21 23:30:54 <lagoldste> meta - tab works
Sep 21 23:38:51 * ka6sox is turning blue...
Sep 21 23:43:36 <lagoldste> ???
Sep 21 23:44:29 <lagoldste> so far, meta + everything works as it's supposed to. what am i forgetting?
Sep 21 23:44:41 <lagoldste> got tab, arrows and 1-8
Sep 21 23:46:18 <ShiftyAxel> I think that's the lot
Sep 21 23:46:29 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox should be able to exhale now
Sep 21 23:46:41 <ShiftyAxel> almost, I believe we need one more tester
Sep 21 23:47:00 <ShiftyAxel> LarrySteeze is up for doing some later when he's free, if we don't get our 3 before that point
Sep 22 00:00:24 <LarrySteeze> ShiftyAxel: looks good.
Sep 22 00:01:01 <ShiftyAxel> excellent, ty LarrySteeze!
Sep 22 00:01:05 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: shipit!
Sep 22 00:02:13 <ka6sox> what 4.9.X?
Sep 22 00:10:56 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, what version # is this?
Sep 22 00:11:07 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: 4.9.10
Sep 22 00:14:41 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, pushed and tagged
Sep 22 00:14:58 <ka6sox> the AB has it now and will spit it out sometime in our lifetime...
Sep 22 00:19:37 <ShiftyAxel> most excellent, ty ka6sox :D
Sep 22 00:19:42 <ShiftyAxel> ready to RT when necessary
Sep 22 00:20:22 <ka6sox> someone needs to test!
Sep 22 00:22:27 <ka6sox> and scoutcamper|away slinks away :D
Sep 22 00:27:20 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, what are we going to say in 160 Characters?
Sep 22 00:30:41 <ka6sox> looks like I missed cutoff
Sep 22 00:31:31 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: LunaCE 4.9.10 now available in the Preware alpha feeds with improvements to keyboard shortcuts! See http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LunaCE_Features for details.
Sep 22 00:31:41 * ShiftyAxel adds details to the features page
Sep 22 00:32:31 <ka6sox> tyvm...
Sep 22 00:32:51 <ka6sox> I need to tweet for a pair of hands to demonstrate for our YouTube channel.
Sep 22 00:33:30 <ka6sox> oh but if we could find a pair as lovely as Audrey Hepburn....
Sep 22 00:37:15 * ka6sox obviously did something wrong
Sep 22 00:38:18 <ShiftyAxel> did something go f00m?
Sep 22 00:40:29 <ka6sox> it appears as if 4.9.10 is before 4.9.9
Sep 22 00:40:47 <ka6sox> finally!
Sep 22 00:41:09 <ka6sox> anyone here who can attempt to use preware to update to 4.9.10 of LunaCE?
Sep 22 00:44:04 <ka6sox> anyone? anyone?
Sep 22 00:48:02 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, try it on your second?
Sep 22 00:50:33 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: sure, I'll give it a go
Sep 22 00:54:05 * ka6sox looks east for a small mushroom cloud.
Sep 22 01:02:35 <ShiftyAxel> rebooting now, no nuclear fusion to report just yet
Sep 22 01:05:41 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: success!
Sep 22 01:07:13 <lagoldste> spelled "reimplemented" wrong in the feature list  ;P
Sep 22 01:08:21 <ka6sox> wiki?
Sep 22 01:11:03 <ka6sox> https://twitter.com/webosports/status/249314693200633857
Sep 22 01:12:42 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, RT?
Sep 22 01:13:06 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: RT'd
Sep 22 01:13:20 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, did you fixor reimplemeted?
Sep 22 01:13:27 <ka6sox> reimplemented.
Sep 22 01:13:36 <ka6sox> eye kant spel
Sep 22 01:13:44 <ShiftyAxel> i'm not entirely sure where lagoldste is referring to
Sep 22 01:14:04 <ShiftyAxel> that word isn't on the wiki, so i'm guessing preware package description?
Sep 22 01:14:20 <lagoldste> jes, sorry
Sep 22 01:14:37 <lagoldste> was busy installing from preware and rebooting
Sep 22 01:15:02 <lagoldste> kant can't cant?
Sep 22 01:15:07 * lagoldste ducks
Sep 22 01:15:23 <ka6sox> indeed
Sep 22 01:16:09 <lagoldste> everything looks gooddd
Sep 22 01:16:12 <lagoldste> good, even
Sep 22 01:16:40 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, can we make a variable bounce on this...I have that issue too.
Sep 22 01:16:54 <ka6sox> some keys need more debounce than others...
Sep 22 01:17:05 <lagoldste> this is the bt kbd
Sep 22 01:17:12 <lagoldste> bounce bounce bounce
Sep 22 01:17:16 <lagoldste> i kinda ignore it now
Sep 22 01:17:19 <ka6sox> me too
Sep 22 01:17:28 <ka6sox> does not matr
Sep 22 01:18:05 <lagoldste> there are more important things to work on in LunaCE than coding around h/w problems
Sep 22 01:20:21 <ka6sox> okay we only have 1 "normal" to fix and we are ready for stable
Sep 22 01:20:47 <ka6sox> sorry...beta
Sep 22 01:20:57 <ka6sox> then move it to stable
Sep 22 01:21:27 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: variable bounce? I'm not sure I can write hardware patches...
Sep 22 01:21:42 <ka6sox> heh
Sep 22 01:21:45 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, that fix...
Sep 22 01:21:47 * ka6sox adds capacitor...
Sep 22 01:22:19 <ka6sox> the TS needs debounce on some keys ;p
Sep 22 01:22:36 <ka6sox> ~sleep ShiftyAxel
Sep 22 01:22:36 * WoceBot uses the banhammer to put ShiftyAxel to sleep for the next 12 hours
Sep 22 01:22:51 <ka6sox> nn ShiftyAxel
Sep 22 01:23:02 <ShiftyAxel> sleep? where?
Sep 22 01:23:04 * ShiftyAxel looks around
Sep 22 01:23:10 <ka6sox> heh
Sep 22 01:23:28 <ka6sox> there is a piece of Pot Roast with my name on it waiting for me.
Sep 22 01:24:29 * lagoldste had to code around a h/w problem once a long, long time ago. the h/w in question wouldn't drop a bit low (iirc), it wasn't causing problems and the box in question cost ~ $50K each
Sep 22 01:25:29 <ka6sox> what I hate is coding around the ones you can't touch anymore...
Sep 22 01:27:26 <ShiftyAxel> I hate coding around hardware problems, the hardware should just work properly in the first place
Sep 22 01:28:14 <lagoldste> sometimes ya just gotta do it
Sep 22 01:30:27 <ka6sox> what if its: 99.504 AU (1.48856?1010 km; 9.2495?109 mi) from the Sun; and traveling at 15.436 km/s (34,530 mph)  and you have a stuck bit...
Sep 22 01:31:22 <lagoldste> the universe implodes
Sep 22 01:31:35 <lagoldste> end of problem
Sep 22 01:31:36 <ka6sox> naw..its before Helioshock...
Sep 22 01:31:49 <ka6sox> er HelioSheath rather...
Sep 22 01:32:02 <lagoldste> not familiar with either worddd
Sep 22 01:32:07 <lagoldste> :PPPPP
Sep 22 01:32:21 <ka6sox> where the solar wind runs out of poop...
Sep 22 01:33:17 * lagoldste throws cat sand at the solar wind
Sep 22 01:33:41 <ka6sox> laters..
Sep 22 01:37:51 <ShiftyAxel> ah, yes, that old chestnut
Sep 22 01:37:57 <ShiftyAxel> well in that case, permissable :P
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