**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 30 03:00:00 2012 Sep 30 03:00:06 what about an ubuntu sans kernel? Sep 30 03:00:06 but it still requires swapping kernel/libs depending on bl Sep 30 03:00:40 stroughtonsmith, well the issue is more the libs Sep 30 03:01:12 stroughtonsmith, distributing 2 kernels one labelled JB-bootloader and one with ICS-bootloader isn't too much of an issue Sep 30 03:01:18 they both are 3.X kernels right? Sep 30 03:01:24 the userland accel libs on the other hand Sep 30 03:01:36 ka6sox, they are the same kernel with a different config option Sep 30 03:01:50 ka6sox, jb uses 3.1, but I use 3.1 anyway Sep 30 03:02:06 the kernel I use is not an asus kernel Sep 30 03:02:29 we forward ported the tf201 stuff into the nvtegra 3.1 kernel Sep 30 03:03:08 but if I flip CONFIG_TRUSTED_FOUNDATIONS it will work on the jb bootloader Sep 30 03:19:27 lunch time Sep 30 03:25:34 morning Sep 30 03:25:46 good discussion with brandon I see Sep 30 03:29:10 something like that ;) Sep 30 03:31:03 https://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/252249122592141315 Sep 30 03:34:25 the logs in the topic seem pretty barren Sep 30 03:34:41 http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-ports/webos-ports.20120930.txt Sep 30 03:34:51 Start at Sep 30 00:19:42 Sep 30 03:36:21 thx Sep 30 03:36:51 np Sep 30 03:43:39 interesting. Sep 30 03:49:22 it certainly was an interesting discussion Sep 30 03:51:50 * rwhitby bbl Sep 30 03:58:16 ive been waiting for any early builds to try. is there a repository ? Sep 30 04:03:48 ka6sox, LarrySteeze: either of yall around? Sep 30 04:04:05 yes Sep 30 04:04:46 saw the chat with Brandon from PIC earlier, i'm on the software side (back on it again)... any questions that I could try to answer? Sep 30 04:05:02 didn't read the whole convo, so just asking in general. might not be able to answer everything, but might be of more help. Sep 30 04:05:46 are you authorized to speak for PIC Software? Sep 30 04:05:59 Some parts of it, yes. Sep 30 04:06:22 Again, I don't know everything. but I talk with the higher ups and help run the software development side (well, the app development side of the software team) Sep 30 04:07:46 at this point what I am seeing is chaotic, disorganized and not understandable. Sep 30 04:08:06 I am working with the higher ups to fix that, get more organized, and get things out in a more timly manner Sep 30 04:08:06 I think I am dealing with the CIA or NSA... Sep 30 04:08:10 that is my main job. Sep 30 04:08:42 i agree 100% with what you said, which is why we're working to change that. I hope to have things to show soon Sep 30 04:09:19 ka6sox: you can also check this https://github.com/phxdevices Sep 30 04:09:36 I've looked @ your Google Maps App... Sep 30 04:09:58 well, we're workig fast to get more things up there, including a big contribution to LunaCE Sep 30 04:10:15 well, big IMO Sep 30 04:10:25 adds a lot of new features to cut/copy/paste Sep 30 04:10:49 your license is not compatible with Apache2.0 that I can see... Sep 30 04:10:53 that will need to be fixed Sep 30 04:11:09 Thanks for pointing that out, will make note of that and make sure I look into it Sep 30 04:11:38 looks like my build isn't going to finish tonight. 5am - I'm out. night guys Sep 30 04:11:48 nite stroughtonsmith Sep 30 04:11:54 night stroughtonsmith Sep 30 04:14:19 for me as a Project Leader I can't identify who is really with the project, what their roles are, and what they are doing. Sep 30 04:15:33 If you're looking for a specific person to contact, I can get you the info. Or a specific position, I can get you the person. I'll make sure to bring up a who is page to the higher ups Sep 30 04:15:39 so therefore I am struggling to know who can speak to what, who can even speak with us, and who is really running the ship Sep 30 04:16:22 if you guys would be interested in working with us, or just want to talk to someone about working with us, i can set it up. or exchange contact info at least Sep 30 04:17:20 we would need to use this forum here... Sep 30 04:17:34 So the best place to have them talk to you guys is in here on IRC? Ok. Sep 30 04:17:38 I'll shoot them an email now Sep 30 04:17:59 we have offered in the past for this. Sep 30 04:18:08 as you are speaking to us here... Sep 30 04:19:05 Yeah, I will talk to them and make sure that they come in here and talk to you guys if they're interested as well (and I think they are) Sep 30 04:19:14 PIC has been an Enigma...making proclaimations...but not showing anything...being too secretive for us to work with as a FOSS project. Sep 30 04:19:38 if you are truely committed to being "open" and work with the community we welcome that. Sep 30 04:20:15 Ok Sep 30 04:20:35 Who do you want them to ping when they come in here? Sep 30 04:21:04 yes, of course...we welcome dialog with PIC. Sep 30 04:21:48 You or Rod would be the people to talk to when they come in, right? Sep 30 04:22:03 probably me Sep 30 04:22:05 ok Sep 30 04:22:08 initially Sep 30 04:22:17 we want to get folks together... Sep 30 04:22:41 Yeah Sep 30 04:22:43 I want other input from the community as we discuss things to make sure there are no misunderstanding. Sep 30 04:22:46 Just sent them the email Sep 30 04:26:04 for us as a project we have stated goals, a governance model, an identifiable structure... Sep 30 04:27:45 we're working to get that done Sep 30 04:30:06 I'm glad... Sep 30 04:42:57 should I wait tonight or are we talking about over the next few weeks? Sep 30 04:53:04 PatrickC, are you still here? Sep 30 05:00:59 PatrickC, should I stay up late tonight? Sep 30 05:01:28 hello brandongoeszoom Sep 30 05:01:40 Hello, scoutcamper Sep 30 05:01:53 we brandongoeszoom Sep 30 05:02:01 s/we/wb/ Sep 30 05:02:01 ka6sox meant: wb brandongoeszoom Sep 30 05:02:18 Hey ka6sox Sep 30 05:04:28 So, I see y'all met Patrick. Honestly, I don't expect a governance model and all of that tonight. I could be wrong, but I don't suggest you lose any sleep looking for it tonight. Sep 30 05:05:11 of course... Sep 30 05:05:27 I am not certain what he emailed as I am not privy to that. Sep 30 05:06:27 I don't know what he emailed either. I supposed I could ask him so at least I'd know what's going on as well. Sep 30 05:06:48 we have know patrickc for about 18months...so he is not unknown to us :D Sep 30 05:07:17 That's good! I've only known him for as long as the onTap project has been going on Sep 30 05:08:42 OnTap is another "project" that I do not understand at all.. Sep 30 05:09:26 ontap should involve beer Sep 30 05:10:17 I'll drink to that. Sep 30 05:11:08 It's basically a bunch of us with no real guidance, but we're working on that. The project just went kind of dormant because the founder of it (whom we were taking most of our direction from, for the most part) is a student. Yukai. So, when school started, a lot of us had less time than we previously thought we'd have to devote. Underestimated. So, I'm looking for some authors and editors, but we needs lots of help, ac Sep 30 05:14:37 I see... Sep 30 05:16:04 in your capacity as co-twitter author I have a question. Sep 30 05:17:05 the latest twitter post. Sep 30 05:17:22 with an uncredited link to a video Sep 30 05:18:11 one that doesn't use the official published everywhere link Sep 30 05:18:21 but rather a new one... Sep 30 05:18:42 * dwc- is confused ... why isn't a youtube link to your video uncredited? Sep 30 05:19:03 becuase we published a link... Sep 30 05:19:12 or is webos ports on youtube not part of webos ports the project Sep 30 05:19:15 they simply could have RT'd it like everyone else. Sep 30 05:20:06 Quite true. I don't have control over that at the moment, so I have no idea why that was done. It was most likely Dan that posted it, considering Sharon Copeland is the other person with the credentials. But she rarely has time to use it. Sep 30 05:20:58 So, those who don't click through to it will probably assume it's the work of PIC, when it clearly isn't. Shouldn't have been done, in all honesty. Sep 30 05:21:15 Which is why I've requested to become a co-author. For situations like these. Sep 30 05:21:46 oh. that looks like your link, minus the extra redirect :p Sep 30 05:22:10 * dwc- never got the whole twitter thing Sep 30 05:22:34 its the same as if I posted the same link here as PIC Sep 30 05:23:02 It does, but if people clicked through, it still goes to the ports' channel. Some people won't however and will assume we did the work, which shouldn't happen. Sep 30 05:23:25 Dan should have given you guys the proper credit. Sep 30 05:23:29 but if they don't click the link, how will they know what to mistake for anyone's work Sep 30 05:24:49 FOSS Lives on reputation and attribution. Sep 30 05:25:34 Exactly. They won't. So, that needs to be fixed and made known ASAP Sep 30 05:26:25 yea... I get that conceptually, I just don't see that... I just went to the feed, clicked the link, and saw the owner of the video Sep 30 05:28:10 then again, many projects do just fine without attribution in the final finished commercial products (webkit in chrome, gpl'd stuff in tvs, all sorts of bsd licensed stuff that just gets authorship preserved in the source code) Sep 30 05:28:16 but, this is OT so I'll stop talking Sep 30 05:28:47 ka6sox: sorry, was afk Sep 30 05:28:51 (and isn't really my business anyways) Sep 30 05:28:55 not sure, i wouldn't stay up late. Sep 30 05:30:05 hey brandongoeszoom Sep 30 05:30:16 Hey Patrick Sep 30 05:30:32 Welcome back :) Sep 30 05:31:36 brandongoeszoom, PatrickC I realize that Rome wasn't built in a day....so I am not expecting miracles. Sep 30 05:31:48 brb again Sep 30 05:32:30 but if we are to communicate with PIC we need more clarity as to who is who, who is authorized to speak to us on what subject, and who is really running it. Sep 30 05:34:32 Yessir. We'll do what we can in that regard. It'll take some time, of course, but try we will. Sep 30 05:37:15 ka6sox: hopefully more light will be shed on things within the next few days to a week once my bosses can get in here to talk to yall Sep 30 05:37:19 I am assuming that there is a structure in place...you make it sound like there isn't one. Sep 30 05:37:43 There is a good structure in place Sep 30 05:38:06 How am I making it sound like there isn't one? Sep 30 05:38:41 because it will take "time' to reveal this... Sep 30 05:38:59 maybe there's a cage match next week, winner take all Sep 30 05:39:11 lol Sep 30 05:39:15 w00t! Sep 30 05:40:23 Taking bets? Sep 30 05:43:21 wrea, if you start a pool notify us in -offtopic :D Sep 30 05:44:05 lol, will do Sep 30 05:44:57 I wont know the participantes because of NDA, unfortunately Sep 30 05:45:47 wrea, thats fine, just assign them each an alphanumeric code :p Sep 30 05:46:00 wrea what NDA? Sep 30 05:46:33 The NDA the always cite for x,y, or z reason Sep 30 05:48:02 whoops Sep 30 05:48:17 that's what he gets for using the webchat :P Sep 30 05:48:21 wb brandongoeszoom Sep 30 05:48:32 I know of NO NDA related to PIC and WebOS Ports Sep 30 05:48:40 Neither do I Sep 30 05:48:47 Sorry about that. Too lazy to use my touchpad for irc :P Sep 30 05:48:56 lol.. use XChat Sep 30 05:49:53 I use XChat on my TP Sep 30 05:49:59 i'm off to bed, nice chatting ka6sox and brandongoeszoom Sep 30 05:50:00 wIRC for phones Sep 30 05:50:06 nite PatrickC Sep 30 05:50:10 ka6sox: in the chroot or as an actual app Sep 30 05:50:11 ? Sep 30 05:50:21 XApp Sep 30 05:50:37 ah, forgot it was an XApp.. been away from webOS for far too long :/ Sep 30 05:50:48 but anyway, gotta get up early in the morning for Church. night all Sep 30 05:51:02 Night, Pat Sep 30 05:51:03 nite Sep 30 07:31:12 hey guys Sep 30 09:57:37 heyho Sep 30 12:55:31 Hello, Anyone can help me? Sep 30 12:56:18 I reboot my Veer and don't wont boot. When i connect to the PC i get QHSUSB_DLOAD (IS stuck on QDL mode) Sep 30 12:56:34 What i can do? Sep 30 12:56:35 Thanks Sep 30 13:05:52 I have found this post of Rod, is this the only solution?= Sep 30 13:05:53 http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-veer/286754-if-your-veer-stuck.html#post3018020 Sep 30 13:17:22 VeerH: I imagine an alternate solution would have been posted in that thread if there was ond Sep 30 13:17:33 s/ond/one/ Sep 30 13:17:33 ShiftyAxel meant: VeerH: I imagine an alternate solution would have been posted in that thread if there was one Sep 30 13:17:47 Ok guys.. Thanks Sep 30 13:17:49 i try this.. Sep 30 13:18:30 also please don't post the same thing across multiple channels with the same users present, IRC is all about patience Sep 30 13:21:23 actually disregard that... the window order in my IRC client is getting me confused :s Sep 30 13:23:38 Sorry.. Sep 30 13:34:21 Removed the battery, and it's boot! But is stuck on HP Logo Sep 30 13:34:33 Maybe required more time because with the remove of battery Sep 30 13:34:38 is the equivalent of crash? Sep 30 13:35:32 VeerH: how long has it been on the bootlogo for? Sep 30 13:35:42 Now is 3 minutes Sep 30 13:35:49 My bootlog is with webOSInternals Sep 30 13:35:55 Is stuck on this bootlog Sep 30 13:36:00 I have used meta doctor Sep 30 13:36:05 to make it an EU Veer in the past Sep 30 13:36:32 On first time i have see the battery with red icon Sep 30 13:36:42 Now is going on this :S Sep 30 13:37:06 hmm, give it 5-10mins total, if it still isn't booting after that then there's a problem Sep 30 13:37:21 I have no experience with veer though, so not sure how much help I can be Sep 30 13:37:32 Well.. If i can make on recovery mode Sep 30 13:37:38 I can use the doctor Sep 30 13:38:23 if you're getting to the bootlogo you should be able to get into recovery Sep 30 13:38:36 Yes is still on this mode Sep 30 13:40:40 So wait 15 minutes and after hoping go on recovery mode... Sep 30 13:41:31 I'd go with 10mins, 15 is incredibly long even for a webOS device Sep 30 13:47:32 Now i get the battery red Sep 30 13:47:44 What i have do?? Stay on PC or Touchstone??? Sep 30 13:50:00 plug it into the AC charger and leave it for a while Sep 30 13:50:10 it's the most reliable way to charge Sep 30 13:55:48 Do Sep 30 13:56:01 I need to wait 15 or 20 minutes righ? Sep 30 13:57:06 that was just waiting to see if it would boot Sep 30 13:58:08 Yes, anyway i have try to go on recovery mode and it's working Sep 30 13:58:19 But i prefer to charge and see if boot normally Sep 30 13:58:27 Maybe i'm solved the problem! hoping so! Sep 30 13:58:41 Thanks for your support ShiftyAxel! Now waiting Sep 30 14:14:16 Working!!! Sep 30 14:14:19 It's boot! Sep 30 14:14:30 Only need to close correct, because the silence switch not working! Sep 30 14:14:37 But is finally working! Sep 30 14:18:30 morning guys Sep 30 14:50:21 3889/3920… Sep 30 15:20:46 morning Sep 30 15:21:42 mooorning Sep 30 15:21:48 aaaand build complete Sep 30 15:22:20 any plans to port WebOS to samsung skyrocket? Sep 30 15:23:58 morning Sep 30 15:32:42 ok, armv7 build still hangs in Calendar welcome screen ka6sox morphis Sep 30 15:34:26 stroughtonsmith: thats normal Sep 30 15:34:36 stroughtonsmith: look at /etc/event.d/LunaSysMgr Sep 30 15:34:40 oh yeah? what do I do? Sep 30 15:34:45 it's checking for a run-first--... file Sep 30 15:34:47 I don't have much access to a shell on this Sep 30 15:34:48 create it Sep 30 15:34:54 then get access Sep 30 15:35:04 ok awesome, thanks Sep 30 15:35:15 will the event.d thing be saved when the device is turned off? Sep 30 15:35:17 it's a bug in owo but someone needs to track it down Sep 30 15:35:20 or must I have shell access Sep 30 15:35:21 stroughtonsmith: yes Sep 30 15:35:24 ok great Sep 30 15:36:26 that info is probably useful to the guy who was doing the rPi build… Sep 30 15:36:47 stroughtonsmith: it's /var/luna/preferences/ran-first-use Sep 30 15:36:50 just Sep 30 15:36:55 # touch /var/luna/preferences/ran-first-use Sep 30 15:37:02 and it will not start firstuse app on next boot Sep 30 15:37:40 awesome, rebooting Sep 30 15:38:11 I'm throwing my rootfs tgz on dropbox just in case anybody can't wait for a 24 hour build Sep 30 15:38:24 ooh lock screen with blue lock icon Sep 30 15:38:47 is there a key combo for bypassing the lock screen btw? Sep 30 15:39:21 stroughtonsmith: don't know, take the mice Sep 30 15:39:29 there's a cursor? Sep 30 15:39:49 qemuarm? Sep 30 15:40:03 yeah, but on device Sep 30 15:40:09 which device? Sep 30 15:40:14 transformer prime Sep 30 15:40:19 ah Sep 30 15:40:20 has a keyboard dock and usb ports Sep 30 15:40:20 no Sep 30 15:40:27 then you need touchscreen Sep 30 15:40:29 but yeah no mouse support Sep 30 15:40:40 k, so what do I need, a new kernel for that? Sep 30 15:40:53 you need to modify nyx-modules Sep 30 15:40:55 https://github.com/openwebos/nyx-modules Sep 30 15:41:08 ah stop Sep 30 15:41:13 you should have the modules installed Sep 30 15:41:25 you need /dev/input/touchscreen0 to be your touchscreen device Sep 30 15:41:35 ok hold up Sep 30 15:41:37 this is interesting Sep 30 15:42:12 stroughtonsmith: but you will get a better build environment throught webos-ports soon Sep 30 15:42:18 what file should I be looking at in nyx-modules? Sep 30 15:42:21 which is adjusted for porting to other devices Sep 30 15:42:31 stroughtonsmith: ignore my comment about nyx-modules Sep 30 15:42:43 oh Sep 30 15:42:53 so I ned a /dev/input/touchscreen0 ? Sep 30 15:42:56 yes Sep 30 15:43:03 it's hard coded in nyx-modules Sep 30 15:43:04 I can probably make that with mknod, right? Sep 30 15:43:10 can be a symlink Sep 30 15:43:17 stroughtonsmith: check /dev/input Sep 30 15:43:23 there should be some event* nodes Sep 30 15:43:28 one is your touchscreen Sep 30 15:43:33 ok hold up Sep 30 15:43:35 difficult without a shell Sep 30 15:43:39 I'll boot it into ubuntu Sep 30 15:43:41 symlink it to /dev/input/touchscreen0 Sep 30 15:43:42 and check the nodes Sep 30 15:43:44 since it's the same kernel Sep 30 15:43:54 stroughtonsmith: get shell access :) Sep 30 15:44:19 that would involve adding adbd Sep 30 15:44:24 since novaterm no work? Sep 30 15:44:53 usbnet and ssh Sep 30 15:45:06 dunno if my kernel has usbnet Sep 30 15:45:10 uh let me try Sep 30 15:45:16 after I post a picture on twitter :P Sep 30 15:45:50 is novacom not baked into the image? Sep 30 15:46:02 ka6sox: no Sep 30 15:46:06 ka6sox: needs kernel support Sep 30 15:46:22 stroughtonsmith: your kernel should have usbnet at least throught android gadget driver Sep 30 15:46:34 it's not an android kernel Sep 30 15:46:43 not showing up as an interface on my mac Sep 30 15:46:46 so probably no usbnet Sep 30 15:47:02 stroughtonsmith: check http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=blob;f=meta-samsung/recipes-core/initscripts/initscripts/tuna/rndissetup.sh;h=81c5f0f52aa73c9bd30e9764f56f89d37e31e2f3;hb=HEAD Sep 30 15:47:17 thats needed to switch to rndis interface Sep 30 15:47:23 right Sep 30 15:47:23 I think for porting to android devices we should bake adb in as they have support. Sep 30 15:47:24 that's for the gnex Sep 30 15:47:26 right? Sep 30 15:47:29 yes Sep 30 15:47:37 so my kernel should have adb Sep 30 15:47:37 w Sep 30 15:47:38 but it should be similar for any other android device Sep 30 15:47:40 what I can do Sep 30 15:47:45 is add adbd to the rootfs Sep 30 15:47:50 and have ti start on boot Sep 30 15:47:52 i think… Sep 30 15:50:38 btw my build is at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8657343/webos-image-qemuarm-armv7-CortexA9-20120930133259.rootfs.tar.bz2 Sep 30 15:50:50 clean, no mods Sep 30 15:50:59 lilstevie: that's for you Sep 30 15:52:35 pic: http://twitpic.com/aztwgl/full Sep 30 15:53:22 stroughtonsmith, when we were working with Optware4Android that is what we did... Sep 30 15:54:04 ok my touchscreen is at /dev/touchpanel Sep 30 15:54:22 so I just link /dev/input/touchscreen0 to that? Sep 30 15:57:58 well that didn't work offline. Sep 30 15:58:26 I guess the init process remakes the /dev/input stuff so I can't just add it when offline? Sep 30 15:59:47 did you take the nyx-modules from qemuarm to link in? Sep 30 15:59:57 I built for qemuarm Sep 30 16:03:22 the TS module is looking for what device /dev/touchpanel0? Sep 30 16:04:30 you'll have to define module in this context for me Sep 30 16:08:02 nyx modules abstract devices to be used by LSM Sep 30 16:08:48 right, so I haven't touched anything there. Don't know how it works Sep 30 16:09:04 so whatever is default Sep 30 16:10:45 I have a plan Sep 30 16:11:40 not in front of my device currently... Sep 30 16:12:45 don't worry I'll get there Sep 30 16:12:48 this is where the fun begins Sep 30 16:13:17 oh interesting, /dev/input/touchscreen0 already exists Sep 30 16:13:30 morphis: might need you to weigh in here Sep 30 16:13:40 do I just remove it and symlink? Sep 30 16:21:25 wewt I have adb Sep 30 16:21:28 that makes things easier Sep 30 16:23:23 Linux qemuarm 2.6.36.31300-OLiFE #20 SMP PREEMPT Sun Feb 26 18:40:24 EST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux Sep 30 16:23:24 boom Sep 30 16:25:25 interesting..I don't know if nyx works with 2.6 kernels.... Sep 30 16:25:49 :D Sep 30 16:25:55 hey, we've got this far Sep 30 16:26:00 indeed Sep 30 16:26:11 I need to find the actual touchpanel node Sep 30 16:27:50 ah it's maXTouch Sep 30 16:29:58 hmm. Sep 30 16:30:11 linking maXTouch to /dev/input/touchscreen0 doesn't work Sep 30 16:30:22 but checking maXTouch_messages shows it's receiving touch events Sep 30 16:44:31 NYX_DECLARE_MODULE(NYX_DEVICE_TOUCHPANEL, "Touchpanel"); Sep 30 16:44:50 that seems to be what nyx is expecting for the device Sep 30 16:45:02 right? Sep 30 16:45:22 not Touchpanel0 Sep 30 16:45:41 https://github.com/openwebos/nyx-modules/blob/master/src/rockhopper/touchpanel/emulator/touchpanel.c Sep 30 16:45:57 so /dev/input/touchscreen0 is what it creates Sep 30 16:46:03 where my panel is at /dev/touchpanel Sep 30 16:46:09 or possibly /dev/maxtouch Sep 30 16:47:38 touchpanel_event_fd = open("/dev/input/touchscreen0", O_RDWR); Sep 30 16:47:42 hmm Sep 30 16:48:48 tho at what stage does nyx load? Sep 30 16:48:56 so delete /dev/input/touchscreen0 and symlink? Sep 30 16:49:01 see if that works? Sep 30 16:49:36 yeah definitely not working yet Sep 30 16:49:59 nyx should be loaded as part of LSM bringup Sep 30 16:50:03 just killing LunaSysMgr is enough? Sep 30 16:50:44 I suspect (and ShiftyAxel may know more) that is uses LunaSysService Sep 30 16:51:10 I"m certain that he knows more than me on this! Sep 30 16:51:20 I'm afraid my knowledge of nyx and the system services is lacking Sep 30 16:54:47 touchscreen0 is mapped to event3 Sep 30 16:54:50 maybe that's important Sep 30 16:55:05 * Caleb is watching community Sep 30 16:57:24 * ka6sox reads archwiki for clues on getting his Duo running... Sep 30 16:58:40 alright, back in 20 Sep 30 16:59:49 ka6sox: duo two factor authentication? Sep 30 17:00:26 HaDAk, no, Dell Duo Sep 30 17:00:33 oh, ok. Sep 30 17:16:07 I don't suppose there's any luna-send way to unlock the lock screen? Sep 30 17:27:55 interesting, the sys log doesn't ever mention anything about nyx and touch Sep 30 17:56:19 anyone here got a setup for producing nice videos of LunaCE and now OW demos? Sep 30 17:56:41 hey guys Sep 30 17:56:43 what'd i miss now? Sep 30 17:56:50 B00m! Sep 30 17:56:54 hey EricBlade Sep 30 17:57:12 you missed a couple hours of me trying to figure out the touch panel :P Sep 30 18:33:11 stroughtonsmith: did you manage to? Sep 30 18:33:18 not yet Sep 30 18:36:50 bbl Sep 30 18:58:28 i just picked up a nexus 7 with the intent of trying to port webos to it. who's with me? Sep 30 18:58:42 did you get me one too? Sep 30 18:58:48 of course (not) Sep 30 18:59:00 well then how do you expect me to help you :-S Sep 30 18:59:08 ka6sox-away: i have a Canon 7D that I can shoot 1080p video with. I have the requisite knowledge for shooting video. Sep 30 18:59:14 EricBlade: becaue you live up the street. Sep 30 19:00:06 what was the procedure for getting the gnex going? Sep 30 19:00:42 lol :P Sep 30 19:01:50 was that documented somewhere? Sep 30 19:01:59 if only! Sep 30 19:02:57 i'm not really sure how that works. at this time, my work only involves emulators Sep 30 19:03:27 I'm confounded by the prime's touchscreen here, so I've moved on to trying to get this to boot on another device Sep 30 19:03:31 ok. who was (were) the one(s) who ported to the gnex? Sep 30 19:03:56 stroughtonsmith, you know the process for getting it to boot to other devices? care to fill me in? i know nothing. Sep 30 19:04:14 that's probably not a good place to start from then Sep 30 19:04:40 well, fill me in Sep 30 19:04:43 what do i need to know? Sep 30 19:04:54 gotta start somewhere. Sep 30 19:05:12 uh well you need to know how the boot process works on the device you have, most likely need to build your own kernel and ramdisk so it can boot whatever you like Sep 30 19:05:27 after that then you point it at the webOS filesystem you've built and hope that it works enough to get somewhere Sep 30 19:06:06 i wonder if that's documented somewhere for the nexus7? Sep 30 19:06:06 yep, you start with dissecting how your device works from a low-level bootup perspective Sep 30 19:06:25 compile a kernel that satisfies the ahrdware requirements as well as the requirements of the webOS userspace filesystem Sep 30 19:06:36 then boot it and see what happens Sep 30 19:06:38 it likely won't work Sep 30 19:06:47