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Oct 16 03:00:32 <panda-z> jacques: did you run make update?
Oct 16 03:01:11 <jacques> panda-z, I ran make update a few hours ago right before I started the build
Oct 16 03:01:16 <rrix> gee, git submodules breaking things in obscure ways, I'm shocked ;)
Oct 16 03:02:04 <ka6sox-away> rrix, heh
Oct 16 03:02:17 <rrix> I really dislike git submodules
Oct 16 03:02:28 <jacques> panda-z, I just ran "make update" again and everything was already up-to-date
Oct 16 03:06:06 <jacques> ka6sox-away, should I put the bug report under woce-build category?
Oct 16 03:06:58 <panda-z> jacques: well, that's weired, because actually there is a tree 0671dd7e62b5104c4e427c47be68b5a8af0fd377 in webOS-Ports/luna-sysmgr https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/tree/0671dd7e62b5104c4e427c47be68b5a8af0fd377
Oct 16 03:07:37 <ka6sox-away> jacques, in Ports please
Oct 16 03:13:08 <jacques> ka6sox-away, #259
Oct 16 03:15:29 <ka6sox-away> jacques, tyvm
Oct 16 04:27:42 <ka6sox-away> morning morphis
Oct 16 04:27:50 <morphis> ka6sox-away: morning
Oct 16 04:27:58 <ka6sox-away> up early eh?
Oct 16 04:28:10 <morphis> yeah :)
Oct 16 04:28:15 <morphis> have to take the early train
Oct 16 04:29:05 <ka6sox-away> ah, understood.
Oct 16 04:29:42 <ka6sox-away> slate has been "released" in the sense that it has been shown.
Oct 16 04:30:58 <morphis> ah great
Oct 16 04:41:43 <morphis> hm 20% battery lost in seven hours with suspend and nothing activated isn't that bad for the beginning
Oct 16 04:42:15 <ka6sox-away> jacques, pull and restart build?
Oct 16 04:42:49 <ka6sox-away> jacques, make update and restart?
Oct 16 04:45:49 <ka6sox-away> panda-z, are you building gnex?
Oct 16 04:48:32 <panda-z> ka6sox-away: no, as i don't have a gnex. may i have a try?
Oct 16 04:49:09 <ka6sox-away> could you please verify the issue is gone...I will start our Jenkins too.
Oct 16 04:50:38 <panda-z> did you mean #259?
Oct 16 04:53:02 <ka6sox-away> yes, please
Oct 16 04:54:41 <panda-z> ka6sox-away: sure, but downloading should take some time
Oct 16 04:57:07 <ka6sox-away> will this cause you an issue?
Oct 16 05:00:59 <panda-z> ka6sox-away: i just started make setup-webos-ports and it haven't finished
Oct 16 05:04:34 * bhuey back
Oct 16 05:14:34 <panda-z> jacques: ping
Oct 16 05:20:00 <jacques> panda-z, hi
Oct 16 05:21:19 <jacques> ka6sox-away,  I just did make update and restarted
Oct 16 05:21:31 <panda-z> jacques: could you please try again to make sure the issue is gone, as morphis has just updated the repo?
Oct 16 05:22:04 <jacques> it seems to have passed the bad spot and will be done soon
Oct 16 05:22:19 <jacques> oh wait
Oct 16 05:22:47 <jacques> no I got the same error :-\
Oct 16 05:23:05 <jacques> when I did make update it didn't actually update anything - everything was up-to-date
Oct 16 05:23:14 <ka6sox-away> what image are you guys buildling?
Oct 16 05:23:53 <ka6sox-away> webos-dev-image?
Oct 16 05:24:42 <jacques> yep -dev for me
Oct 16 05:24:49 <jacques> I just tried a "bb -c cleansstate luna-sysmgr"
Oct 16 05:26:01 <jacques> it's hard to tell, but that might have improved matters
Oct 16 05:27:07 <jacques> it's compiling luna-sysmgr now so it must have passed the unpack stage
Oct 16 05:27:34 <jacques> ouch, some other error this time
Oct 16 05:27:37 <jacques> lots of output
Oct 16 05:27:47 <ka6sox-away> pastebin please?
Oct 16 05:28:41 <jacques> http://pastie.org/5066059
Oct 16 05:29:49 <jacques> those might have resulted from WARNING: The recipe is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exist. Those files are:
Oct 16 05:29:49 <jacques>    /mnt/sda9/packages/woce-gnex-02/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/tuna/usr/lib/libqpalm.so
Oct 16 05:30:46 <jacques> can I just "rm -rf tmp-eglibc/" and start again?
Oct 16 05:32:31 <ka6sox-away> yes
Oct 16 05:32:55 <ka6sox-away> but you will hvae to rebuild everythign
Oct 16 05:32:59 <jacques> pastie.org won't take the full output, so http://pastebin.com/y2bagbwT
Oct 16 05:33:20 <jacques> ka6sox-away, if the problem is in sysroots, I don't know a better way
Oct 16 05:33:33 <jacques> other than manually removing files in there by trial and error
Oct 16 05:33:54 <jacques> the longest part for me is downloading anyway
Oct 16 05:34:13 <ka6sox-away> kk
Oct 16 05:34:43 <jacques> unless someone has a less drastic tactic to try, I am going to rm tmp-eglibc
Oct 16 05:35:25 <ka6sox-away> I have nothing...this error is one we asked about earlier in #oe....
Oct 16 05:35:39 <ka6sox-away> but EricBlade isn't here to answer what was the fix.
Oct 16 05:35:50 <jacques> ok, rming
Oct 16 05:36:01 <jacques> even on ssd it takes a while to rm
Oct 16 05:37:08 <jacques> re-starting
Oct 16 05:51:34 <jacques> ARGH. now I'm getting the qmake-palm error again.
Oct 16 06:03:39 <jacques> did a "bb -c cleansstate qt4-webos" and re-starting
Oct 16 06:23:42 <jacques> it's just not going to work for me tonight
Oct 16 06:25:17 <jacques> now I'm getting "Src/webbase/SysMgrWebBridge.h:7:20: fatal error: QtWebKit: No such file or directory" when building luna-sysmgr
Oct 16 09:14:16 <penk> ahh 600G monthly bandwidth exceeded
Oct 16 09:14:42 <penk> can anyone spare a mirror to ftp://106.187.54.8/OWO/ ? :-)
Oct 16 09:25:18 <JaMa> Dwayne Fontenot here?
Oct 16 09:50:56 <Tofe> Hello
Oct 16 09:52:18 <Tofe> Stskeeps: you know libhybris quite well, isn't it ?
Oct 16 09:52:32 <Stskeeps> yes
Oct 16 09:53:11 <Tofe> I wondered if, instead of using hybris, I would be able to achieve the same result with a modified RPATH in my libEGL.so
Oct 16 09:53:26 <morphis> Tofe: no
Oct 16 09:53:47 <morphis> if it would be so easy libhybris wouldn't be needed at all
Oct 16 09:54:06 <morphis> you need bionic libc but will have glibc libc
Oct 16 09:54:15 <morphis> libEGL.so is linked against bionic
Oct 16 09:54:19 <morphis> and thats the problem
Oct 16 10:00:42 <Tofe> I have to check some things. We may have different constraints, as my NVidia libs are _not_ built against android.
Oct 16 10:01:28 <Tofe> (but I'm not sure, I didn't know bionic libc until right now...)
Oct 16 10:01:34 <Tofe> lunch, brb
Oct 16 10:01:39 <Stskeeps> Tofe: you should be able to use those libs from built against ubuntu, i'd hope
Oct 16 10:01:46 <Stskeeps> else somebody has screwed something somewhere :)
Oct 16 10:27:44 <warzon> morphis: morning, we are working on multitouch. for testing purpose i've made some modifications in my kernel to switch it to single touch protocol. touch is working, but luna-sysmgr sometimes handon , it seems that it has some issues with input events.
Oct 16 10:28:33 <warzon> hang on*
Oct 16 11:17:34 <Tofe> Stskeeps: ok, so in my case, if I put in place a little bundle with the libc and modify the rpath, it should be ok, with a bit of luck
Oct 16 11:34:47 <Tofe> Ah, Plasma Active 3 is out
Oct 16 14:24:42 <penk> Stskeeps: where do I begin? # test_egl: egl/test.c:27: main: Assertion `surface != ((EGLSurface)0)' failed.
Oct 16 14:24:55 <Stskeeps> penk: that's a good start already
Oct 16 14:25:35 <Stskeeps> penk: did you apply patches to your bionic?
Oct 16 14:26:06 <penk> Stskeeps: applied patch in this repo github.com/webOS-ports/android-binaries
Oct 16 14:26:21 <Stskeeps> ok, you're on the nook color?
Oct 16 14:26:25 <penk> yes
Oct 16 14:26:43 <Stskeeps> there's a '32' in the test.c isn't there?
Oct 16 14:26:46 <Stskeeps> replace to 16
Oct 16 14:26:59 <penk> ok a sec
Oct 16 14:29:20 <penk> Stskeeps: no 32 here https://github.com/morphis/libhybris/blob/master/test.c
Oct 16 14:30:24 <penk> ah wrong file
Oct 16 14:32:28 <penk>  ok set EGL_BUFFER_SIZE to 16, same result
Oct 16 14:33:32 <Stskeeps> alright, then you probably need to dive into build.prop and that lane
Oct 16 14:33:44 <Stskeeps> and get it to match what it's under linux
Oct 16 14:34:06 <penk> ok
Oct 16 16:13:11 <morphis> heyho
Oct 16 16:13:54 <penk_> morphis: morning~
Oct 16 16:21:03 <penk_> morphis: can you please point me to the commit that enable OpenGLES in luna-sysmgr?
Oct 16 16:24:24 <morphis> penk_: yes, one moment
Oct 16 16:26:12 <EricBlade> morning all
Oct 16 16:32:00 <morphis> penk_: you're using webos-ports?
Oct 16 16:32:10 <penk_> morphis: yes
Oct 16 16:32:18 <morphis> penk_: which device?
Oct 16 16:32:52 <penk_> morphis: I'm building for tuna atm
Oct 16 16:33:01 <morphis> ok
Oct 16 16:33:14 <morphis> there are several places you have to adjust for gles support
Oct 16 16:33:25 <morphis> penk_: first one is qt4-webos
Oct 16 16:34:32 <morphis> penk_: for luna-sysmgr: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/commit/6e600fcc1429cd4cd9283fc308419a11b7d06b6d and https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/commit/daff92435a4abf397c6a685725218d14a106da77
Oct 16 16:35:21 <morphis> penk_: for qt4-webos: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos/blob/webOS-ports/master/recipes-webos/qt4/qt4-webos.bb#L27
Oct 16 16:36:20 <penk_> morphis: appreciate!
Oct 16 16:36:44 <morphis> if I didn't forget anything that should be all relevant things
Oct 16 16:37:32 <morphis> penk_: if you want it would be very nice if you document this on the wiki if you're doing the same for another machine target
Oct 16 16:37:48 <morphis> would help other people porting to other targets very much
Oct 16 16:39:02 <penk_> morphis: sure, I sort of got my SGX530 working, would like see it working with LSM..
Oct 16 16:39:21 <penk_> next target would be OE build on AllWinner A10 though
Oct 16 16:39:29 <morphis> ok
Oct 16 16:39:54 <morphis> we need some porting guideline so we don't have to repeat all the details again and again :)
Oct 16 16:40:33 <EricBlade> "luna-tuna.conf" *chuckle*
Oct 16 16:40:44 <penk_> of course
Oct 16 16:41:01 <morphis> EricBlade: yes ... just did what upstream does :)
Oct 16 16:41:29 <EricBlade> the sad thing is, i LOLed at that.
Oct 16 16:46:47 <penk_> one small step # www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFLl3rMaz5Y
Oct 16 16:47:59 <Garfonso> yeah. :)
Oct 16 16:49:18 <linuxjacques> penk_, AllWinner FTW
Oct 16 16:49:34 <linuxjacques> (I'd like to see that target too)
Oct 16 16:49:51 <penk_> linuxjacques: can't get my device into fastboot mode though
Oct 16 16:49:58 <penk_> working on a bootable SD card instead
Oct 16 16:50:04 <linuxjacques> hmmm
Oct 16 16:50:09 <linuxjacques> I don't have one (yet)
Oct 16 16:53:41 <morphis> penk_: yeah, looks like you are on a good way :)
Oct 16 16:54:09 <penk_> spent too much time on the desktop build, can't drop it now LOL
Oct 16 17:00:26 <EricBlade> penk_: how are you drawing over luna ?
Oct 16 17:00:54 <penk_> EricBlade: omapfb driver for Xorg ..
Oct 16 17:01:08 <penk_> EricBlade: you mean the window?
Oct 16 17:01:19 <EricBlade> eya
Oct 16 17:01:21 <EricBlade> hmm
Oct 16 17:01:31 <penk_> well it's X11
Oct 16 17:01:47 <EricBlade> you'd think with a background in video games, i'd know something about graphics. but, you'd be wrong.
Oct 16 17:02:36 <EricBlade> are we actually running x11 in here? i recall seeing some x11 packages, but i figured it was just to satisfy dependencies other packages had unnecessarily
Oct 16 17:03:00 <penk_> EricBlade: it's the desktop build, running on top of Xorg, I can even open native Linux applications within LSM through my XEmbed plugin …
Oct 16 17:03:11 <EricBlade> OH ok
Oct 16 17:03:13 <EricBlade> makes sense
Oct 16 17:03:18 <penk_> Firefox over LunaSysMgr should be fun ...
Oct 16 17:03:23 * penk_ jk 
Oct 16 17:03:53 <EricBlade> well i guess if that's possible, we're just a step away from having webos as the main X shell eh
Oct 16 17:04:59 <penk_> EricBlade: it's totally doable, question is how far can the desktop build goes? I have a feeling it will be replaced with OE build in the future
Oct 16 17:05:35 <EricBlade> penk_: even if it's built using OE, it'll still work the same way
Oct 16 17:06:08 <EricBlade> the desktop build script is a messy way of manually doing what the OE build does from a shell script
Oct 16 17:06:31 <penk_> sorry I mean XCB => QPA
Oct 16 17:15:28 <EricBlade> i don't think there will be a change from using xcb for the desktop
Oct 16 17:15:41 <EricBlade> isn't the xcb a specific qpa for X11 ?
Oct 16 17:26:01 <penk_> morphis: using minimal platform plugin not webos for WebAppManager is a workaround?
Oct 16 17:26:22 <morphis> penk_: yes
Oct 16 17:26:32 <morphis> penk_: thats the problem with the libhybris approach
Oct 16 17:26:39 <penk_> okay
Oct 16 17:26:43 <morphis> it's right now only possible to do rendering from one process
Oct 16 17:26:57 <morphis> second process (WebAppManager) can't use it right now
Oct 16 17:27:02 <morphis> but we're working on getting this fixed
Oct 16 17:28:40 <EricBlade> every day is such a huge learning experience. i thought running luna minimal configured it for first run
Oct 16 17:29:21 <morphis> EricBlade: you mean the minimal ui, we're talking about the minimal QPA plugin
Oct 16 17:30:04 <EricBlade> ah. wasn't aware of the difference. :-S
Oct 16 17:31:50 <morphis> :)
Oct 16 17:39:12 <morphis> ok, did six pull requests for nyx-modules: https://github.com/openwebos/nyx-modules/pulls
Oct 16 17:39:32 <morphis> that should bring common device support for everybody :)
Oct 16 17:41:51 <JaMa|Off> it's with today changes? or before?
Oct 16 18:01:37 <Tofe> sh*t, I should have forseen that: my "nvidia/ubuntu" libEGL lib is depending on libX11...
Oct 16 18:02:38 <Tofe> that makes sense, as nvidia provides actually an accelerated... X11 driver.
Oct 16 18:03:19 <Tofe> so, this sums up to using either X or libhybris.
Oct 16 18:03:42 <Tofe> let's go for libhybris.
Oct 16 18:07:10 <linuxjacques> this looks just like webos' multitasking interface: http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/10/16/apple-granted-patent-for-ios-multitasking-user-interface
Oct 16 18:08:55 <Tofe> "It should be noted that the Exposé-like iOS multitasking bar does not  technically represent a list of running apps, but instead shows those  programs that were recently opened by the user. "
Oct 16 18:09:08 <Tofe> Who said "fake multitasking" ?
Oct 16 18:10:46 <Tofe> Stskeeps: how do you determine the minimal set of libs that must be extracted from /system for the GL libs ?
Oct 16 18:10:51 <Stskeeps> Tofe: 'all of them'
Oct 16 18:10:52 <Stskeeps> :P
Oct 16 18:10:54 <Stskeeps> as a start
Oct 16 18:10:58 <Stskeeps> then you can strip down as you go
Oct 16 18:11:05 <Tofe> :) oki
Oct 16 18:11:46 <Tofe> but what is actually needed is libEGL and libGLES, isn't it ?
Oct 16 18:12:24 <Tofe> so it would sum up to getting all of their dependencies
Oct 16 18:12:25 <Stskeeps> yeah, but those have crazy deps usually
Oct 16 18:12:38 <EricBlade> I believe that ES would need to be used to avoid depending upon X11
Oct 16 18:13:07 <EricBlade> at least, that's the story i was reading the other day
Oct 16 18:13:10 <penk_> objdump -x is your friend
Oct 16 18:13:17 <Tofe> well, ldd should help. However I don't know what "linker" and "pvrsvtl" are for.
Oct 16 18:13:23 <linuxjacques> is this relevant to our GL rendering issues? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIwNzc
Oct 16 18:13:33 <Tofe> let's go for "all of them" :)
Oct 16 18:15:47 <penk_> Tofe: what's the init script for Tegra?
Oct 16 18:17:06 <Tofe> huh ? init script ?
Oct 16 18:19:20 <penk_> hmm looks like only 69-tegra-gpu.rules udev rule
Oct 16 18:19:46 <penk_> wonder who loads the firmware
Oct 16 18:21:44 <Tofe> lib/firmware/nvrm_avp.bin ?
Oct 16 18:22:00 <penk_> Tofe: pvrsrvctl (and old pvrsrvinit) is for the SGX GPU
Oct 16 18:22:05 <Tofe> there's a usr/sbin/nvrm_daemon
Oct 16 18:23:54 <EricBlade> i was doing some research a little while ago into exactly what the deal is with Wayland, and the story goes that Wayland uses GLES because the GL libs are linked to X11
Oct 16 18:24:19 <EricBlade> or does that info not help what was being asked
Oct 16 18:24:43 <Tofe> what was the question ?
Oct 16 18:27:34 <warzon> if you are using tegra you nead to start nvrm_daemon. without nvrm_daemon nothing will work , not only graphics. it doing some proprietary magic with hardware
Oct 16 18:27:38 <warzon> need*
Oct 16 18:30:54 <Tofe> Okay, now I need to put in place my own machine, it's time.
Oct 16 18:53:15 <EricBlade> i guess it wasn't a question, but Tofe you pointed out that the nvidia EGL lib was dependent upon x11
Oct 16 18:56:19 <ka6sox> EricBlade, that seems to be a common theme
Oct 16 18:58:20 <EricBlade> ka6sox: hmm?
Oct 16 19:00:32 <ka6sox> dragging all of X11 in for EGL
Oct 16 19:01:25 <Stskeeps> just be happy there's x11
Oct 16 19:01:26 <Stskeeps> :P
Oct 16 19:03:36 <ka6sox> Stskeeps, for a 28yr old Windowing GUI system its okay I guess.
Oct 16 19:06:41 <EricBlade> ka6sox: yes. and that's why Wayland uses GLES instead of GL.  But for a device, GLES is what's intended anyway
Oct 16 19:08:08 <Stskeeps> egl's also much more suited for different windowing systems anyway.
Oct 16 19:13:58 <EricBlade> x11 is great if you can use the network transparency
Oct 16 19:18:10 <ka6sox> ssh-x forwarding FTW
Oct 16 19:20:43 <DracheMitch> Is there a version of Open WebOS that runs in a Virtual Machine?
Oct 16 19:22:35 <HaDAk> http://penkia.blogspot.com/2012/10/unofficial-open-webos-livecdusb.html
Oct 16 19:23:31 <DracheMitch> Thanks!
Oct 16 19:28:04 <DracheMitch> Is the WebOS-Ports page for the Samsung Series 7 Slate the official page for the project?
Oct 16 19:29:10 <morphis> DracheMitch: if there is one it should
Oct 16 19:31:15 <DracheMitch> A video showing it booting from a USB stick was posted yesterday and there is a page at WebOS-Ports.org right now but I don't know enough about how the coimmunity is organised to know if the .org is just a knowledge repository or the actual projects pages.
Oct 16 19:32:07 <ka6sox> DracheMitch, its coming..
Oct 16 19:32:58 <ka6sox> DracheMitch, this is the actual project pages...but since we are all volunteers it takes a few days to push out information.
Oct 16 19:38:01 <DracheMitch> I'm not worried about the release date just making sure I follow the correct page.
Oct 16 19:38:44 <ka6sox> DracheMitch, yes, that will be its official homepage
Oct 16 19:38:54 <ka6sox> and will be filled out like the gnex one
Oct 16 19:39:03 <DracheMitch> thanks
Oct 16 19:39:07 <ka6sox> yw
Oct 16 21:09:02 <ka6sox> morning lagoldste
Oct 16 21:15:27 <ka6sox> there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Oct 16 21:16:51 <lagoldste> mr0n, ka6sox
Oct 16 21:17:00 <lagoldste> who's wailing and why?
Oct 16 21:19:30 <ka6sox> https://twitter.com/webosports/status/258316142936993792
Oct 16 21:19:38 * halfhalo pops in for 23 seconds
Oct 16 21:20:04 <ka6sox> hi halfhalo enjoy your 21seconds of rest.
Oct 16 21:20:06 <ShiftyAxel> wailing or no, i'd say it was inevitabubble
Oct 16 21:20:16 <ShiftyAxel> morning halfhalo, enjoy your ramaining 16 seconds
Oct 16 21:24:01 <lagoldste> ka6sox: why should that cause anyone any angst?
Oct 16 21:26:01 <ka6sox> 14:20PDT 16OCT2012: "I predict a number of wiped devices with loss of data resulting from following the instructions provided in http://testing-gnex.webos-ports.org
Oct 16 21:26:04 <ka6sox> "
Oct 16 21:26:48 <ShiftyAxel> because the folk at XDA don't do instruction reading
Oct 16 21:26:58 <ShiftyAxel> they do GIMME NOW GRAB IMAGE FLASH IT
Oct 16 21:27:20 <lagoldste> ah. that's not your problem, though
Oct 16 21:28:35 <lagoldste> though i did a few months back have to tell our exchange admin that no, he really shouldn't be flashing his *wife's* phone with <android distro> nightlies
Oct 16 21:31:55 <lagoldste> i really do need to teach that dude some unix sometime soon...
Oct 16 22:18:01 <bhuey> folks
Oct 16 22:20:19 <White> Hello
Oct 16 22:20:21 <White> Is anyone here?
Oct 16 22:23:00 <linuxjacques> here... here... here... </echo>
Oct 16 22:23:00 <ka6sox> yes
Oct 16 22:23:07 <White> Yay
Oct 16 22:23:09 <ka6sox> bhuey
Oct 16 22:23:17 <bhuey> hey
Oct 16 22:23:18 <White> few questions
Oct 16 22:23:29 <White> I have a xperia x10
Oct 16 22:23:38 <White> is it worth trying to port?
Oct 16 22:24:07 <ka6sox> if I had more detail as to what that was I could maybe try to proffer an answer.
Oct 16 22:24:22 <ka6sox> Roy, you have been promoted to Human :D
Oct 16 22:24:42 <White> http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-2964.php
Oct 16 22:25:36 <ka6sox> 384MB of RAM is skinny, and Qualcomm = DEATH...
Oct 16 22:25:37 <ka6sox> sorry
Oct 16 22:25:51 <White> np
Oct 16 22:26:34 <White> This is something I'd like to do in order to learn about the subject, being a high-level programmer
Oct 16 22:26:55 <White> do you have any recommendation about another device that is not in the works?
Oct 16 22:27:48 <ka6sox> checkout www.webos-ports.org and our projects + "other ports"
Oct 16 22:27:59 <ka6sox> thats the list I know about...
Oct 16 22:28:24 <White> I've seen it, the thing is I don't know wich phone "qualifies" as good to try porting to
Oct 16 22:30:03 <ka6sox> its tough to answer...we are less than 23days from 1.0 release and are still working out what are and what are not good candidates.
Oct 16 22:30:38 <White> ok.. I'll try and look for one with similar specs to the ones you are working on
Oct 16 22:31:07 <White> thanks !
Oct 16 22:31:11 <ka6sox> the ones we have chosen are the ones, in our opinion, which have a good chance of being workable.
Oct 16 22:31:43 <ka6sox> White, stop by anytime...
Oct 16 22:32:35 <White> will do :)
Oct 16 22:32:38 <White> have a nice day !
Oct 16 22:52:07 * HaDAk` just met levar burton
Oct 16 22:53:48 <ka6sox> kewl....
Oct 16 22:53:58 <ka6sox> sharp guy I'm told.
Oct 16 22:54:14 <HaDAk`> he was very nice.
Oct 16 23:01:47 <moofree> at least he's not brent spiner
Oct 16 23:06:34 <EricBlade> HaDAk`: so what was he doing in AA
Oct 16 23:07:24 <ka6sox> Cheering on UM?
Oct 16 23:07:35 <HaDAk`> moofree: brent spiner is kind of a dick, i've heard.
Oct 16 23:07:51 <HaDAk`> EricBlade: i believe he is speaking at UMich tomorrow in his daughter's class, or something?
Oct 16 23:08:31 <moofree> that was a reference to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JveAkAo6FLA ;)
Oct 16 23:09:01 <moofree> i don't know if brent spiner is a dick or not, but he plays a fictionalized dickish version of himself well!
Oct 16 23:09:19 * EricBlade isn't a dick but plays one on irc
Oct 16 23:09:39 <HaDAk`> he's a germophobe. won't shake your hand.
Oct 16 23:09:42 <HaDAk`> i can't blame him.
Oct 16 23:09:45 <HaDAk`> but still. :\
Oct 16 23:09:48 <HaDAk`> sanitize
Oct 16 23:10:28 <EricBlade> HaDAk`: neat! if i were in town, i'd want to meet him
Oct 16 23:10:40 <EricBlade> but, i'm over in California, where it's still summer.
Oct 16 23:10:51 <HaDAk`> i met up with him at ashleys. on the other hand, you're in the goddamn gram hq. so, we're about even.
Oct 16 23:16:41 <EricBlade> it's summer here :)
Oct 16 23:17:03 <ka6sox> summer here too...comes in September and is over Nov 1
Oct 16 23:18:05 <scoutcamper> psh
Oct 16 23:18:37 <scoutcamper> its not summer when i use my trucks heater on the way to work at 8AM, although i am 4hrs north of EricBlade
Oct 16 23:18:50 <ka6sox> and I'm 4hrs south
Oct 16 23:19:33 <EricBlade> my gf came by with a 3lb burrito for lunch, and we had a little picnic
Oct 16 23:19:56 <ka6sox> welcome to Cali
Oct 16 23:20:24 <HaDAk`> EricBlade: do you know if you're moving there or not?
Oct 16 23:20:52 <EricBlade> HaDAk`: not planning on it at this time, but we have 7 months left in our current lease, so .. who knows
Oct 16 23:22:13 <HaDAk`> gotcha.
Oct 16 23:22:44 <scoutcamper> EricBlade, how long are you out here?
Oct 16 23:24:24 <EricBlade> we leave sunday morning i think
Oct 16 23:24:53 <scoutcamper> too bad, im looking at a trip to the bay Nov. 1.
Oct 16 23:25:53 * scoutcamper is gone
Oct 16 23:26:07 <ka6sox> me too
Oct 16 23:28:00 <linuxjacques> *&%&*%&$&***(())(^&%$%$^&
Oct 16 23:28:43 <linuxjacques> I. Hate. Proxies.
Oct 16 23:30:53 <ka6sox> what choice do you have?
Oct 16 23:34:55 <linuxjacques> ka6sox, none really, since wget does not support socks
Oct 16 23:35:10 <HaDAk`> curl should
Oct 16 23:35:14 <linuxjacques> if it did, I could tunnel it through ssh
Oct 16 23:35:41 <linuxjacques> HaDAk`, yeah I believe curl does. hmm, are you saying that's configurable in bitbake?
Oct 16 23:35:53 <HaDAk`> dunno. not sure what you're up to
Oct 16 23:35:53 <linuxjacques> like I could tell it to use curl instead of wget?
Oct 16 23:36:18 <linuxjacques> building the gnex openwebos image with OE
Oct 16 23:36:37 <HaDAk`> oh. i dunno, look through the script?
Oct 16 23:37:29 <linuxjacques> well, my build just died with the luna-sysmgr "QtWebKit: No such file or directory" error anyway. :-(
Oct 16 23:37:44 <linuxjacques> apparently it's a qt4-webos recipe issue
Oct 16 23:39:01 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, this is what we see..
Oct 16 23:40:19 <linuxjacques> ka6sox, I submitted it as #261 and JaMa has traced it to qt4-webos staging issue
Oct 16 23:40:37 <ka6sox> we were seeing this fixed earler
Oct 16 23:40:38 <linuxjacques> so it may not be ShiftyAxel's fault :-)
Oct 16 23:40:52 <ka6sox> interesting...
Oct 16 23:41:04 <linuxjacques> unless he changed qt4-webos recipes
Oct 16 23:41:06 <ka6sox> because morphis had to fix this earlier for same reason... ;(
Oct 16 23:41:16 <ka6sox> I'm probably wrong
Oct 16 23:52:15 <linuxjacques> BBL
Oct 17 00:01:51 <ka6sox> nn ShiftyAxel|Away
Oct 17 01:35:39 <Grabber5_0> morning empty channel
Oct 17 01:36:05 <scoutcamper> no one here but us chickens...
Oct 17 01:50:41 <Grabber5_0> cluck cluck
Oct 17 01:51:14 <Grabber5_0> guess I'll hang with the wife :p
Oct 17 02:07:12 <Roy__> Does anyone here want to throw in an answer to this?
Oct 17 02:07:14 <Roy__> https://www.openwebosproject.org/forums/general-discussion/learning-how-contribute/
Oct 17 02:21:33 <ka6sox-away> have them come here or #openwebos and talk to us :D
Oct 17 02:22:47 <ka6sox-away> Roy__, ^^
Oct 17 02:35:58 <Roy__> ka6sox-away: Why don't -you- invite him here. :)
Oct 17 02:36:17 <ka6sox-away> I am allergic to forums?
Oct 17 02:36:18 <Roy__> Although…  I would like to say if the information isn't captured somewhere it's harder for someone else to discover it.
Oct 17 02:36:25 <ka6sox-away> (how do I even sign in...)
Oct 17 02:36:37 <Roy__> You put in your username and password on the login page.
Oct 17 02:41:01 <ka6sox-away> luckily I had your paste here or it would have taken me 5 minutes to find the forums...
Oct 17 02:42:17 <Roy__> Yeah, that part sucks.
Oct 17 02:42:26 <Roy__> We're going to try to feature that more prominently.
Oct 17 02:50:00 <fxspec06> woo http://www.webosnation.com/app-review-neo
Oct 17 02:53:37 <ka6sox> now if it runs on a Gnex I'd be happy...
Oct 17 02:53:49 <fxspec06> it probably runs WAY better.
Oct 17 02:53:54 <fxspec06> in the works
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