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Oct 23 03:08:59 <trent_> Anyone have info on how to get a samsung device recognized by novacom?
Oct 23 04:25:55 <morphis> morning
Oct 23 09:32:09 <bhuey> folks
Oct 23 09:36:41 <swisstomcat> heya
Oct 23 09:41:44 <JaMa> panda-z: ping
Oct 23 09:41:46 <JaMa> swisstomcat: heya
Oct 23 09:42:18 <panda-z> JaMa: pong
Oct 23 09:43:13 <JaMa> panda-z: in that qt patch I've meant commit message, but I see you've updated only subject
Oct 23 09:44:09 <panda-z> JaMa: oops..sorry, will fixed that in minutes
Oct 23 09:45:59 <panda-z> JaMa: would you mind i using both your subject and commit message?
Oct 23 14:59:23 <microhxo> Any progress on the Isis browser?
Oct 23 14:59:26 <microhxo> for touchpad?
Oct 23 15:15:45 <HaDAk> i haven't heard anything
Oct 23 15:15:49 <HaDAk> but i don't know much.
Oct 23 15:17:46 <HaDAk> is anybody specifically working on targeting the nexus 7 for porting?
Oct 23 15:18:37 <scoutcamper> not that i have seen HaDAk
Oct 23 15:18:42 <HaDAk> :(
Oct 23 16:18:32 <gtklocker> hey, any news about WebOS on the Galaxy Nexus?
Oct 23 16:18:54 <morphis> gtklocker: which kind of news you're searching for :)
Oct 23 16:20:00 <gtklocker> morphis: improved font sizing or radio support?
Oct 23 16:20:08 <gtklocker> in fact I'm kind of interested to help
Oct 23 16:20:18 <gtklocker> although I have no idea about webOS whatsoever
Oct 23 16:20:58 <morphis> ok
Oct 23 16:21:00 <halfhalo> I like the way you think
Oct 23 16:21:05 <morphis> with radio you mean telephony?
Oct 23 16:21:07 <morphis> or wifi?
Oct 23 16:21:16 <gtklocker> why not both? :P
Oct 23 16:21:20 <morphis> ok
Oct 23 16:21:24 <morphis> in general both are working
Oct 23 16:21:33 <morphis> ofono and connman are working
Oct 23 16:21:40 <morphis> both just need integration in openwebos
Oct 23 16:21:46 <gtklocker> ohh
Oct 23 16:21:48 <morphis> and thats what we're working on right now
Oct 23 16:22:20 <gtklocker> is there the source code needed to support different deviced anywhere?
Oct 23 16:22:24 <gtklocker> like what CM does?
Oct 23 16:22:30 <gtklocker> or is the code fragmented some other way?
Oct 23 16:22:56 <morphis> the code relevant for ofono is developed in two seperate components
Oct 23 16:23:00 <morphis> libsamsung-ipc and ofono
Oct 23 16:23:17 <morphis> patches for ofono should go into upstream ofono
Oct 23 16:23:40 <morphis> for connman there is no needed to modify it in anyway
Oct 23 16:24:04 <morphis> gtklocker: for ofono look here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/ofono/tree/morphis/samsung-ipc
Oct 23 16:24:18 <morphis> gtklocker: and for the connman webos adapter component here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/connman-adapter
Oct 23 16:25:16 <gtklocker> oh it depends on dbus
Oct 23 16:25:18 <gtklocker> how cute
Oct 23 16:26:51 <morphis> connman-adapter is the interface between connman on the one site and the com.palm.wifi ls2 API on the other site
Oct 23 16:27:01 <morphis> so you plug it in and all old apps are just working
Oct 23 16:27:15 <gtklocker> aha nice :)
Oct 23 16:27:28 <gtklocker> I'm reading some of the ofono code
Oct 23 16:27:29 <morphis> and no, I am not a person who likes fragmented and hacked code
Oct 23 16:27:49 <morphis> gtklocker: you're interested in helping us?
Oct 23 16:28:18 <gtklocker> morphis: yeah, the stuff looks particularly interesting; and there's some nice C code that I'm reading here
Oct 23 16:29:00 <morphis> :)
Oct 23 16:29:22 <morphis> I already talked with ofono maintainers about it and they are willing to integrate it once it's ready
Oct 23 16:29:31 <gtklocker> morphis: from Android I usually expect some ridiculous Java I really can't bear with; apart from the kernel of course
Oct 23 16:29:48 <gtklocker> so from a developer standpoint, webos looks better if not ideal
Oct 23 16:30:14 <morphis> :)
Oct 23 16:30:21 <morphis> Android is a peace of crap
Oct 23 16:30:31 <linuxjacques> now now :-)
Oct 23 16:31:13 <gtklocker> oh man ofono has such nice code
Oct 23 16:32:04 <morphis> gtklocker: yes :)
Oct 23 16:32:28 <morphis> and it's developed by people who really know what they are doing
Oct 23 16:33:02 <gtklocker> I see it's copyrighted by Intel
Oct 23 16:33:58 <gtklocker> oh fuck man this dbus integration seems so... right
Oct 23 16:35:08 <morphis> gtklocker: seems like you're know what you're looking at
Oct 23 16:36:57 <gtklocker> I've been reading the code for 10 minutes now
Oct 23 16:37:00 <gtklocker> I'm impressed
Oct 23 16:38:53 <morphis> the samsung-ipc stuff?
Oct 23 16:39:25 <gtklocker> I'm looking at samsung-ipc now
Oct 23 16:39:33 <gtklocker> I was looking at src/
Oct 23 16:39:36 <morphis> ah
Oct 23 16:40:53 <gtklocker> nice commit, Simon
Oct 23 16:42:56 <morphis> :)
Oct 23 16:44:12 <gtklocker> I'm still trying to figure out what most of this functionality provides
Oct 23 16:44:16 <Herrie> Morning guys
Oct 23 16:44:18 <gtklocker> since I'm pretty new to modems and all
Oct 23 16:46:32 <morphis> gtklocker: ok
Oct 23 16:47:12 <gtklocker> so they thing is, I don't understand what exactly you're doing but I understand how you're doing it :P
Oct 23 16:48:27 <morphis> gtklocker: modem stuff is very complex some times, especially when it comes to the various protocols
Oct 23 16:48:53 <morphis> it's not something you do in one hour
Oct 23 16:49:24 <gtklocker> yeah seems so :P
Oct 23 16:51:36 * HaDAk stumbles in from lunch, drunk on pizza
Oct 23 16:52:44 <gtklocker> I'm going to study a bit, bbl to check the rest of the code
Oct 23 17:29:01 <morphis> so boys, next step in webos porting is done: using wifi through system menu with connman works (only enable/disable + listing networks)
Oct 23 17:29:44 <Stskeeps> \o/
Oct 23 17:36:03 <HaDAk> what can i do to help port?
Oct 23 17:36:24 <HaDAk> and has the openmobile version been compiled successfully for a vm yet?
Oct 23 17:38:36 <ka6sox> HaDAk, what is "openmobile version"? I am not familiar with that term.
Oct 23 17:38:48 <HaDAk> i probably misspoke.
Oct 23 17:39:01 <HaDAk> there was a desktop version, and a mobile version
Oct 23 17:40:24 <ka6sox> HaDAk, the openembedded version works (last time I checked) for qemuarm and qemux86...but that changes depending on what has been pushed out.
Oct 23 17:40:51 <linuxjacques> morphis, nice.
Oct 23 17:40:54 <HaDAk> is there a build script?
Oct 23 17:41:04 <HaDAk> or, what's necessary to get it going?
Oct 23 17:41:50 <penk_> morphis++
Oct 23 17:41:55 <penk_> great works on wifi
Oct 23 17:42:04 <morphis> :)
Oct 23 17:42:09 <morphis> wifi worked from day one
Oct 23 17:42:15 <morphis> but wasn't integrated in webos UI
Oct 23 17:44:06 <penk_> morphis: do you think it should be in com.palm.connectionmanager ?
Oct 23 17:44:11 <morphis> no
Oct 23 17:44:23 <morphis> https://github.com/webOS-ports/connman-adapter
Oct 23 17:44:36 <penk_> morphis: I followed that closely
Oct 23 17:44:40 <penk_> I mean the UI part
Oct 23 17:44:45 <morphis> com.palm.connectionmanager isn't needed anymore
Oct 23 17:44:48 <morphis> no
Oct 23 17:45:10 <morphis> the systemmenu is part of luna-sysmgr and the wifi app isn't available yet
Oct 23 17:45:13 <morphis> but we're working on this
Oct 23 17:47:19 <penk_> you're working on wifi app already?
Oct 23 17:53:45 <morphis> thats a surprise :)
Oct 23 17:53:55 <penk_> the setting should go in ./uiComponents/SystemMenu/SystemMenu.qml or has its own app?
Oct 23 17:54:34 <morphis> luna-sysmgr as is is already full captable of using wifi through the com.palm.wifi service which is implemented by connman-adapter
Oct 23 17:54:36 <penk_> morphis: Please reveal me your secret! LOL
Oct 23 17:54:40 <morphis> :)
Oct 23 17:56:01 <morphis> have to go bye
Oct 23 17:56:15 <penk_> no wonder you renamed it
Oct 23 17:56:18 <penk_> morphis: see you
Oct 23 18:44:43 <ShiftyAxel> penk_: have you had any experience with QML?
Oct 23 18:45:00 <ShiftyAxel> I'm doing the UI scaling, and most everything's done except the system menu
Oct 23 18:45:08 <ShiftyAxel> (where done is 'working but not polished')
Oct 23 18:45:12 <penk_> ShiftyAxel: I do
Oct 23 18:45:20 <penk_> what's the problem
Oct 23 18:45:24 <ShiftyAxel> any idea how I would go about scaling it up?
Oct 23 18:45:51 <ShiftyAxel> I've tried fiddling with the bounding rect in the LSM code, but it didn't do anything
Oct 23 18:46:16 <penk_> well there's anchors positioning in QML, what part are you working on?
Oct 23 18:46:34 <ShiftyAxel> define 'part'?
Oct 23 18:46:35 <penk_> property of SystemMenu.qml?
Oct 23 18:46:51 <ShiftyAxel> ideally I'd like to scale it from inside the LSM code, since that's where uiScale and textScale variables are
Oct 23 18:47:14 <ShiftyAxel> but i'm not sure as to the feasability
Oct 23 18:49:26 <penk_> I see, seems like width and height are hardcoded in systemmenu, you're scaling it based on the screen density?
Oct 23 18:51:14 <penk_> ShiftyAxel: where can I find textScale?
Oct 23 18:59:32 <ShiftyAxel> penk_: webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/shiftyaxel/ui-scaling is the github
Oct 23 18:59:37 <ShiftyAxel> it's in luna.conf
Oct 23 18:59:53 <ShiftyAxel> it can also go in any of the platform-specific conf files, such as luna-tuna.conf
Oct 23 19:00:13 <ShiftyAxel> uiScale controls pixmap scaling, and textScale controls fonts
Oct 23 19:00:22 <ShiftyAxel> that way we can scale pixmaps down when we get higher-res ones
Oct 23 19:10:09 <ShiftyAxel> basically as-is it scales up pixmaps on load to avoid doing painter scales at runtime
Oct 23 19:11:31 <penk_> so you're dealing with BorderImage / Image here?
Oct 23 19:12:01 <penk_> sorry I don't quite get the scaling idea, maybe I need some time tracing the code
Oct 23 19:13:02 <ShiftyAxel> have a look in the status bar commit, should give you an idea of what it's doing\
Oct 23 19:13:34 <ShiftyAxel> basically pixmap = pixmap.scaledToHeight(pixmap.height() * Settings::LunaSettings()->uiScale); in all the pixmap loading methods
Oct 23 19:14:07 <ShiftyAxel> and some ui layout tweaking where appropriate
Oct 23 19:14:22 <ShiftyAxel> simple, but effective
Oct 23 19:15:25 <penk_> there's Strech and PreserveAspectFit mode # doc.qt.digia.com/qt/qml-image.html
Oct 23 19:16:50 <penk_> and we should pass uiScale to one QML property
Oct 23 19:17:05 <penk_> do that in all height/width pixels
Oct 23 19:20:24 <ShiftyAxel> if we can get uiScale into the QML... sounds like a perfect solution to me
Oct 23 19:31:40 <penk_> ShiftyAxel: I'm not sure if this is correct, add QString Runtime::getSetting(QString text) in Src/base/WindowServer.cpp
Oct 23 19:32:08 <penk_> so we can have runtime.getSetting(uiScale) in QML
Oct 23 19:32:42 <penk_> that exposed in Src/lunaui/WindowServerLuna.cpp to m_qmlEngine
Oct 23 19:33:05 <penk_> what do you think
Oct 23 19:48:46 <ShiftyAxel> penk_: I like it, sounds like the way forward
Oct 23 19:49:02 <ShiftyAxel> I don't have time to work on it tonight though, i'm still trying to restabilize my build environment
Oct 23 19:50:29 <penk_> I'll try sending a pull request IF I can get my $job done first
Oct 23 19:58:16 <ShiftyAxel> ty penk_ :)
Oct 23 20:01:56 <ka6sox> penk_, thanks for the help!
Oct 23 20:02:10 <ka6sox> there are so many fronts to work on.
Oct 23 20:02:19 <penk_> no prob!
Oct 23 20:02:49 <penk_> ka6sox: yeah I'm really happy to see the connman works done by morphis
Oct 23 23:24:09 <bhuey> ka6sox: green is asking for possible NDAed information about the TP. I referred him to here
Oct 24 00:58:08 <fxspec06> so, which version of ubuntu is the best for this
Oct 24 00:58:31 <fxspec06> it says on your supported platforms page, 12.04.. so i suppose 12.11 would not work?
Oct 24 00:59:05 <fxspec06> i guss my question is, is there a specific reason you say strictly 12.04 (i don't know much about ubuntu)
Oct 24 00:59:58 <fxspec06> tonight, i will start my open webos adventure
Oct 24 01:01:45 <halfhalo> we test on 12.04.  12.11 should theoretically work fine, but it may yell at you purely for not being 12.04
Oct 24 01:03:47 <scoutcamper> question: what is 12.11? i know of a 12.10 but....
Oct 24 01:05:56 <ka6sox> fxspec06, is 12.10.1 out yet?
Oct 24 01:06:20 <keith> 12.10 just came out like last week?
Oct 24 01:22:30 <ka6sox> too soon then
Oct 24 01:23:08 <ka6sox> usually I don't see good results on builds till the X.Y.1 comes out
Oct 24 01:25:33 <fxspec06> downloading 12.10
Oct 24 01:25:58 <fxspec06> i don't see 12.10.1
Oct 24 01:28:43 <fxspec06> how much space do you guys recommend? i'll make it an actual bootable partition
Oct 24 01:30:14 <Roy____> fxspec: Lots.
Oct 24 01:30:26 <Roy____> Doing a couple different builds and 140GB isn't enough.
Oct 24 01:31:12 <fxspec06> the MOST i can shrink this partition to will give me 221GB (actual GB)
Oct 24 01:31:38 <fxspec06> i wonder if i should just do a dynamic VM on that drive through windows
Oct 24 01:31:59 <fxspec06> or, i can install to another disk, and use that space for building
Oct 24 01:35:05 <Roy____> That might do it.
Oct 24 01:51:10 <ka6sox> fxspec06, each build takes between 45-60GB of space.
Oct 24 01:55:36 <fxspec06> maybe i'll install it to my laptop instead...
Oct 24 01:55:56 <fxspec06> i think that makes more sense
Oct 24 01:56:31 <fxspec06> i have way more space on there
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